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Re: most responsive syn

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Yes, and each new Vocalizer set is supposed to be the hottest thing since the wheel, but none really cut the mustard long-term.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 2:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: most responsive syn

that's because Eloquence and DECTalk are synthesized voices while
Vocalizer and other voices are samples of human recordings pieced
together, where artifacts like gaps and other anomalies can exist.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:ted.lisle@ky.gov]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:35 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: most responsive syn

Agreed. It doesn't pretend to be naturel, but, for covering lots of
ground with few or no repeats, it's still No. 1.

Ted

-----Original Message-----From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 9:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: most responsive syn

I find Eloquence to be very responsive.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Rogers
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 9:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: most responsive syn

I used Tom for years, but now I'm using Vocalizer Nathan. I like it better.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Sun, 21 May 2017 17:34:29 -0500
"Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net> wrote:

Would like to get some opinions regarding which is the best and most
responsive syn to use with JAWS I am currently using the vocalizer Tom
high.
Thanks.












.


Re: most responsive syn

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Probably not.  It’s true you can take a voice print (the APH talking clock was done by a local broadcaster), but this is synthesized speech, not digitized speech.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 12:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: most responsive syn

 

Ha ha! I don’t find that, but picture this. What if the women behind those voices really were having crappy days, and they just happened to record that way? I personally, would like to meet Moira, the Irish voice I have now. I wonder where she’s from in that country? These people had to have been people once, right?

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

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From: David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 9:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: most responsive syn

 

Melcom is my primary voice.  I do use Ava as well.  This is just a preference but, I found a lot of the female voices sound cranky like they are having a bad day. Again, that is a personal preference.  

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 6:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: most responsive syn

Synthesizer preferences are totally subjective.  The Vocalizer voices are all pretty responsive now.  They sound nice, for the most part, but when they miss a word, they miss it badly, and I'm talking about some pretty common words.
Eloquence and DecTalk Access both, by comparison, sound a little robotic (That's because you've never heard an Echo or an Echo PC from Street Electronics in the 80's).  Eloquence and DecTalk, to me, are the clear champions when it comes to responsiveness.  I think that, on average, they do a better job on common words than do the Vocalizer voices.
In the last decade, for various reasons related to work, I have had to switch back and forth between JAWS and WindowEyes, and my wife has a Macintosh.
My synthesizer of choice is still good old Eloquence.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris G
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: most responsive syn

I'm using Malcolm, I like him a lot.


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-------- Original Message --------
From: Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 8:52 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: most responsive syn

Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
Would like to get some opinions regarding which is the best and most responsive syn to use with JAWS  I am currently using the vocalizer Tom high.


That's what I'm using too, and it's responsive enough for daily use. I'm running the new version released for JAWS 18, not the old 1.x version.









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Re: adding voices

Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@...>
 

In theory, I agree that there is some logic to the idea of selecting the synthesizer first and then the person, and if I (and the several people who have been stumped by this two-step process) had simply downloaded the compact voices for the Vocalizer synthesizer in a single file, none of us would expect to find anything besides “Vocalizer” in the list of synthesizers.  So, I agree with you up to this point.

The problem arises when a separate file is required for each of the “High Premium” voices.  One must separately download files for Susan, Allison, and so on.

Then, when one goes to look for those files, they don’t exist.  All that exists is “Vocalizer,” which one might assume (and several have assumed) related to the old Vocalizer 1 synthesizer for JAWS 17 and before.  That Susan, Allison, and the others were separately downloaded suggested that, perhaps, they were, in effect, separate synthesizers.  Nowhere in any documentation are we told that, though these voices are downloaded as separate files, they are, in fact, really only parts of the same Vocalizer synthesizer.   

It is the process of seemingly hiding the separately downloaded files that threw me off, and I think several others have been flummoxed by the same thing).

   

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 12:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: adding voices

 

Hi Ed,

 

It is not logical or intuitive in your opinion, to me it makes perfect sense. Synthesizers are not the same as voices hence before you can find the Vocalizer voices

You have to pick the Vocalizer synthesizer, if you simply go to Voice Adjustment and are, by default on the Eloquence synthesizer, you obviously will not find the voices from the Vocalizer synthesizer in the list of persons/voices.

The same applies to the SAPI 5X or the SAPI5X 64 synthesizer, you wouldn’t go there and expect to find the Eloquence voice there, either.

It’s simply a two-part selection, select your synthesizer and then go to the list of “Persons”, here you select the one you want and you can then save it so it shows up in the list of synthesizers with it’s own name and settings.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 6:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: adding voices

 

This question comes up all the time.

I contend that the methodology is not logical or intuitive.

You probably downloaded some of the Vocalizer 2 voices, and you probably downloaded separate files for the “large” synthesizer “persons.”

They DO NOT show up; however, you will doubtless see something that says “Vocalizer,” and it may even say (factory settings) or something like that.

Nevertheless choose that, press Alt + V.  That should put you into relative proximity to the place where you can choose a person.  Pick your person and choose the other settings you want.

Then, tab (do it several time).  Eventually, you will get to “Save as.”

Then, pick a name that relates to the person you chose, e.g., “SusanSynth.”

Then press ENTER.

You will now have a synthesizer called SusanSynth that you can pick from the list of synthesizers.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: adding voices

 

If you were using Eloquence, you should be able to change voice profiles and they will show up.  However, you can’t have Vocalizer voices from version 1 installed with voices from Vocalizer version 2.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Don H
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: adding voices

 

I have download and installed the extra voices that I got from the fs

web page.  After a reboot they do not show up in the voices list in the

Jaws UI.  How do I get them to show up?

Thanks.

 

 

 


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Re: adding voices

Mario
 

I believe JAWS 18 can use version 1 of the Vocalizer voices.

------- Original Message --------
From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io [mailto:carollablady=aol.com@groups.io]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:58 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: adding voices

Stupid question, but is there a difference and can one use the older
version if they sound better? Thanks again.

Carol


On 5/22/2017 10:48 AM, Marquette, Ed wrote:

Version 2 requires JAWS 18.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Carol Smith via Groups.Io
*Sent:* Monday, May 22, 2017 9:44 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: adding voices

What are the differences fetween versions 1 and 2 of the Vocalizer
voices?

On 5/22/2017 9:41 AM, Marquette, Ed wrote:

This question comes up all the time.

I contend that the methodology is not logical or intuitive.

You probably downloaded some of the Vocalizer 2 voices, and you
probably downloaded separate files for the “large” synthesizer
“persons.”

They DO NOT show up; however, you will doubtless see something
that says “Vocalizer,” and it may even say (factory settings) or
something like that.

Nevertheless choose that, press Alt + V. That should put you into
relative proximity to the place where you can choose a person.
Pick your person and choose the other settings you want.

Then, tab (do it several time). Eventually, you will get to “Save
as.”

Then, pick a name that relates to the person you chose, e.g.,
“SusanSynth.”

Then press ENTER.

You will now have a synthesizer called SusanSynth that you can
pick from the list of synthesizers.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Joseph Norton
*Sent:* Sunday, May 21, 2017 6:34 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: adding voices

If you were using Eloquence, you should be able to change voice
profiles and they will show up. However, you can’t have Vocalizer
voices from version 1 installed with voices from Vocalizer version 2.

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*From: *Don H <mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net>
*Sent: *Friday, May 19, 2017 9:36 AM
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *adding voices

I have download and installed the extra voices that I got from the fs

web page. After a reboot they do not show up in the voices list
in the

Jaws UI. How do I get them to show up?

Thanks.


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Re: most responsive syn

Mario
 

that's because Eloquence and DECTalk are synthesized voices while
Vocalizer and other voices are samples of human recordings pieced
together, where artifacts like gaps and other anomalies can exist.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:ted.lisle@ky.gov]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:35 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: most responsive syn

Agreed. It doesn't pretend to be naturel, but, for covering lots of
ground with few or no repeats, it's still No. 1.

Ted

-----Original Message-----From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 9:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: most responsive syn

I find Eloquence to be very responsive.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Rogers
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 9:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: most responsive syn

I used Tom for years, but now I'm using Vocalizer Nathan. I like it better.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Sun, 21 May 2017 17:34:29 -0500
"Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net> wrote:

Would like to get some opinions regarding which is the best and most
responsive syn to use with JAWS I am currently using the vocalizer Tom
high.
Thanks.












.


Re: New member with a question about JAWS and Kindle

Brenda <bjnite@...>
 

Hi Shirley,

do I know you?

Why not just use Kindle on your iPhone?

Brenda

On 5/21/2017 9:55 AM, Shirley Tracy wrote:
Hello all,
My name is Shirley Tracy. I’m new on this list, and I’ve been a JAWS user for close to 20 years, but I’m admittedly self taught and definitely not very technical. I hope to learn a lot from you guys, and I will try to participate when I can.
As the subject line states, I’d like to know if any of you are able to use JAWS with Kindle. A few years back, I tried but couldn’t. Has anything changed? If so, any pointers?
Thank you for letting me be a part of this group.
Cheerfully,
Shirley


Re: adding voices

 

Hi Ed,

 

It is not logical or intuitive in your opinion, to me it makes perfect sense. Synthesizers are not the same as voices hence before you can find the Vocalizer voices

You have to pick the Vocalizer synthesizer, if you simply go to Voice Adjustment and are, by default on the Eloquence synthesizer, you obviously will not find the voices from the Vocalizer synthesizer in the list of persons/voices.

The same applies to the SAPI 5X or the SAPI5X 64 synthesizer, you wouldn’t go there and expect to find the Eloquence voice there, either.

It’s simply a two-part selection, select your synthesizer and then go to the list of “Persons”, here you select the one you want and you can then save it so it shows up in the list of synthesizers with it’s own name and settings.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 6:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: adding voices

 

This question comes up all the time.

I contend that the methodology is not logical or intuitive.

You probably downloaded some of the Vocalizer 2 voices, and you probably downloaded separate files for the “large” synthesizer “persons.”

They DO NOT show up; however, you will doubtless see something that says “Vocalizer,” and it may even say (factory settings) or something like that.

Nevertheless choose that, press Alt + V.  That should put you into relative proximity to the place where you can choose a person.  Pick your person and choose the other settings you want.

Then, tab (do it several time).  Eventually, you will get to “Save as.”

Then, pick a name that relates to the person you chose, e.g., “SusanSynth.”

Then press ENTER.

You will now have a synthesizer called SusanSynth that you can pick from the list of synthesizers.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: adding voices

 

If you were using Eloquence, you should be able to change voice profiles and they will show up.  However, you can’t have Vocalizer voices from version 1 installed with voices from Vocalizer version 2.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Don H
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: adding voices

 

I have download and installed the extra voices that I got from the fs

web page.  After a reboot they do not show up in the voices list in the

Jaws UI.  How do I get them to show up?

Thanks.

 

 

 


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Re: copy text

Mario
 

I don't recall when it became available, maybe around version 15?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:ted.lisle@ky.gov]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 12:05 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: copy text

Is that new?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 4:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: copy text

that's a neat feature.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Marquette, Ed [mailto:ed.marquette@kutakrock.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 4:27 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: copy text

Use the layered keystroke: JawsKey + space. Then type the letter c.
The copy buffer will be shown in the virtual viewer.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 3:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: copy text

Is there some way to get feedback from Jaws regarding what you have
selected to copy on a web page or document? Right now I don't know what
if anything I have copied until I try to paste it somewhere.
Thanks




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Re: adding voices

 

I believe the idea is that the version 2 voices do indeed sound better and are more responsive.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 7:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: adding voices

 

Stupid question, but  is there a difference and can one use the older version if they sound better?  Thanks again.

Carol

On 5/22/2017 10:48 AM, Marquette, Ed wrote:

Version 2 requires JAWS 18.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 9:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: adding voices

 

What are the differences fetween versions 1 and 2 of the Vocalizer voices?

On 5/22/2017 9:41 AM, Marquette, Ed wrote:

This question comes up all the time.

I contend that the methodology is not logical or intuitive.

You probably downloaded some of the Vocalizer 2 voices, and you probably downloaded separate files for the “large” synthesizer “persons.”

They DO NOT show up; however, you will doubtless see something that says “Vocalizer,” and it may even say (factory settings) or something like that.

Nevertheless choose that, press Alt + V.  That should put you into relative proximity to the place where you can choose a person.  Pick your person and choose the other settings you want.

Then, tab (do it several time).  Eventually, you will get to “Save as.”

Then, pick a name that relates to the person you chose, e.g., “SusanSynth.”

Then press ENTER.

You will now have a synthesizer called SusanSynth that you can pick from the list of synthesizers.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: adding voices

 

If you were using Eloquence, you should be able to change voice profiles and they will show up.  However, you can’t have Vocalizer voices from version 1 installed with voices from Vocalizer version 2.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Don H
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: adding voices

 

I have download and installed the extra voices that I got from the fs

web page.  After a reboot they do not show up in the voices list in the

Jaws UI.  How do I get them to show up?

Thanks.

 

 

 


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Re: cursors in jaws

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Don,
 

 About JAWS Cursors, below all 4 of them are explained.
 Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors. These
 cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly linked
 with Windows cursors.

 The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes
 This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and
 applications.
 This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through
 options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons. As you type
 information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you press. If you
 are
 making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor highlights the
 currently selected object. The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS
 starts. If you are using a different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns
 you to the PC Cursor.

 The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer
 The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other
 applications. It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read,
 such
 as toolbar information. The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when
 it
 is moved, and you therefore have access to information in an application
 window that is beyond the scope of the PC Cursor. To activate the JAWS
 Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

 The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment
 The virtual PC Cursor mimics the functions of the PC Cursor, but is
 activated by default when entering an HTML document. The virtual PC Cursor
 speaks the number of frames in a document, and the number of links in the
 frame. You can switch between frames, and JAWS reads graphics labeled by
 alt
 tags in the HTML code.

 

Invisible Cursor

The JAWS cursor is basically the mouse cursor that is visible on screen.
The invisible cursor can be moved around just like the JAWS cursor to view
information.  It works like the mouse cursor but can not be seen on screen
or effect objects.  Therefore you can not use the NumPad / (left mouse
click) or NumPad * (right mouse click) on an object.  It is useful to read
information without disturbing the mouse cursor.  It is also useful to
determine colors or whatever might change when the mouse is over an object.
It will not cause ToolTips to pop up.

 

Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 6:17 AM
Subject: cursors in jaws

I am trying to do my best in learning JAWS under the help and training
sections listed in the JAWS user interface.  If I understand it
correctly there three cursor modes in JAWS.  I can find no help topics
discussing them and how to use them.  Can someone lead me in the right
direction to learn all about cursors in Jaws.
Thanks



Re: most responsive syn

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Agreed. It doesn't pretend to be naturel, but, for covering lots of ground with few or no repeats, it's still No. 1.

Ted

-----Original Message-----From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 9:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: most responsive syn

I find Eloquence to be very responsive.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Rogers
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 9:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: most responsive syn

I used Tom for years, but now I'm using Vocalizer Nathan. I like it better.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Sun, 21 May 2017 17:34:29 -0500
"Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net> wrote:

Would like to get some opinions regarding which is the best and most
responsive syn to use with JAWS I am currently using the vocalizer Tom
high.
Thanks.


JAWS 18.0.2945 Latest Update Plus What's New

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi All,
 
Below are the latest update download links & what's new in this release.

32 Bit:
 
 
64 Bit:
 
 
Enhancements in JAWS 18.0.2945 (May 2017)
 
The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 18 April 2017 release and the May 2017 update.
 

New Visual Tracking as JAWS Reads Web Pages and PDF Documents in Windows 10
 
When using JAWS together with ZoomText or MAGic to read web pages, the screen magnification software visually highlights text as JAWS reads. However, if
only JAWS is running, there has never been a way to visually track as you navigate web pages, making it difficult for sighted users to locate where on
the page the Virtual Cursor is currently positioned.
 
Beginning with this update, JAWS now visually highlights text in Windows 10 and Windows 8.1 as you navigate using the Virtual Cursor on the web, in PDF
documents, and when using the Microsoft Mail app even if there is no screen magnification software currently running. As JAWS reads, the current text being
read is highlighted so a sighted user such as a parent, teacher, developer, or tester can easily follow the text visually. JAWS visual tracking is available
in Internet Explorer, Chrome, Firefox, PDF documents opened in Adobe Reader, and Microsoft Mail. It is enabled by default in these specific applications.
Note that when navigating by line on pages in the web browser, JAWS highlights the virtual line and not the actual line as it appears on the web page.
 
While the default settings for the highlight should work well for many users, you can also customize the appearance of the visual highlight including the
color, style, transparency, thickness, and spacing. For example, the default color is Lime Green while the default style is Block, which places a solid
rectangle around the highlighted text. However, you may prefer a different color, style, and more transparency for the highlight. To change these Settings,
open Settings Center while focused in one of the supported applications, expand the new Visual Settings group, select Highlight Virtual PC Cursor, and
then press F6 to move to the pane where you can configure visual tracking settings.
 
JAWS
list of 7 items
• Addressed an issue where pressing the Text Analyzer keystroke, ALT+WINDOWS Key+I, to move to the next inconsistency in the document was causing JAWS
to close unexpectedly in some instances.
• When pressing the APPLICATIONS Key to open the context menu for a book in the Kindle app, resolved an issue where you could no longer use the app with
JAWS until you closed and restarted it.
• Improved JAWS performance with the Alarms and Clock app in Windows 10.
• In the Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 Calculator, resolved an issue where using first letter navigation in the combo boxes for selecting a unit of conversion
was attempting to activate a Calculator button instead of selecting the unit.
• Addressed an issue where pressing INSERT+PAGE DOWN was not reading the status bar in Visual Studio 2017.
• Addressed a customer reported issue with JAWS not correctly speaking certain fraction symbols.
• Resolved a reported issue with some of the Research It lookup sources in the German version of JAWS not displaying any results.
list end
 
Microsoft Office
 
JAWS provides updated support for the Office 365 spellchecker to work with the latest changes from Microsoft. When you press F7 to open the spellchecker,
or when you move to the next error after selecting an option, focus is now placed into a read-only edit field that displays the sentence containing the
error. You can also press INSERT+C from anywhere in this pane to have JAWS read the misspelled word as it appears in the document.
 
Suggestions are now displayed as split buttons instead of in a list. When an error is found, JAWS still announces and spells the first suggestion, but
you must now tab to the suggestion you want to use and press ENTER. Pressing INSERT+F7 now also reads the current suggestion. Pressing ALT+DOWN ARROW on
the selected split button for a suggestion displays extra options for the current suggestion. To access additional options such as Ignore, use the Other
Actions group.
 
Note: If the spellchecker in your version of Office 365 still displays suggestions as a list instead of split buttons, you are not yet running a version
containing the latest Microsoft changes. This new functionality will become available as new Office updates are released.
 
Other Office issues addressed in this update include:
 
list of 3 items
• Resolved an issue where JAWS would become unresponsive when typing in Excel 2016 with the editing language set to Hebrew.
• Addressed an issue where the correct scripts were not being loaded if an embedded Internet Explorer window was opened in Outlook.
• Resolved a customer reported issue with JAWS sometimes not working correctly after closing Word 2010 on some systems.
list end
 
Web Browsers
list of 2 items
• Addressed a reported issue with Google Chrome where Forms Mode was not turning off as expected in certain situations.
• When running JAWS and ZoomText together, addressed an intermittent issue where Internet Explorer was closing unexpectedly when started through the Windows
Run dialog box.
list end
 
Windows 10 Calculator
list of 4 items
• JAWS no longer reads the contents of the results display field after each digit is pressed.
• When pressing shortcut keys to perform various functions, JAWS will now announce the name of the function. Note that some shortcut keys are only available
in a specific calculator mode. In addition, if a shortcut key causes the results display field to update, you will hear the results field followed by the
function. For example, if you type PLUS and the display contains the number 12, you would hear "12+."
• JAWS now indicates the correct state of various toggle buttons in both speech and braille.
• When INSERT+T is pressed to read the window title, the currently active calculator mode (Standard, Scientific, or Programmer) is also announced. JAWS
also announces the current mode when using ALT+1, ALT+2, and ALT+3 to switch modes.
list end
Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!


Re: script for goldwave version 6

Mario
 

-------- Original Message --------
From: John Covici [mailto:covici@ccs.covici.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 1:00 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: script for goldwave version 6

I am looking for the Jaws scripts for Goldwave version 6. I did a
Google search, but it revealed nothing.

Thanks in advance for any suggesitons.


Re: JAWS scripts

 

Which version of Skype do you use? If you are using the Windows 10 Skype app it won't work well, you have to download the desktop version from the Skype website.

----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Portia Mason via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 7:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS scripts

I do have a question regarding jaws Scripts. I installed some for my Skype. But, Skype still won't work for me. I had an issue with the latest of creator and it messed up a few things. I had to do a recovery and since doing that I can't still get Skype to work well for me.
Any ideas why it won't work?
Portia


Re: Changing jaws language

 

As far as I know you have to buy for a certain language if you want the entire Jaws interface to reflect this language. I am in Canada and if I go to the Jaws menu and Language “Jaws Language” is also greyed out. I can install other languages, e.g. German, and use them to read a document or german website, but unfortunately all punctuation and on websites things like links, headings, buttons etc. are in English but pronounced in German.

I like to sometimes go on a german cooking website, www.Chefkoch.de, I switch to a german voice I installed, but then it says things like “list of 9 items” and it says it in German or it says ‘Anmelden button” which means “register button”, so it says register (Anmelden) in german, but then it saysi in the german voice that it’s a “button”.

I think in today’s age this is a bit backwards and I don’t understand why I can’t change language and get the full experience. Using a german ebsite for example is almost impossible using one of the german Vocalizer voices. I guess with british english and american English it wouldn’t matter except if you use a british voice it would probably still say “period” instead of “full stop”.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Morne van der Merwe
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Changing jaws language

 

Hello listers

 

I’m new to JAWS. I migrated from Window-eyes to jaws.  I want to change the jaws language from American English to British English. I go to jaws languages but it says “unavailable”. Is there a way to activate it?

 

Regards

Morne


Re: latest Jaws update

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Go to the VA for webpage down lower jaws and the list every update on what was done and eat your break

Sent from my iPhone

On May 22, 2017, at 09:33, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@gmail.com> wrote:

The page at http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/jaws/JAWSWhatsNew
lists what changes with each release, you have to skip past the
material that relates to the jaws release as a whole to the material
that is new for each build (currently starts at "Enhancements in JAWS
18.0.2945 (May 2017)")

This build has quite a lot of new material.

On 5/22/17, Don H <lmddh50@comcast.net> wrote:
Installed the Jaws update that popped up today. Install went just fine.
Is there a way to know what changes were made in such updates?
Thanks from a newbee




--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com



Re: Changing jaws language

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

You can change the synthesizer language under Voices, which is probably what you want.  note though, the accent is pathetic.  Not only has no Englishman ever spoken that way, it sounds as though he just returned from  the dentist, and the Novocain hasn’t worn off.  Trust me, if you want a British voice, use Vocalizer!  It sounds human, eloquence just sounds ridiculous.

 

ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Morne van der Merwe
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 2:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Changing jaws language

 

Hello listers

 

I’m new to JAWS. I migrated from Window-eyes to jaws.  I want to change the jaws language from American English to British English. I go to jaws languages but it says “unavailable”. Is there a way to activate it?

 

Regards

Morne


Re: latest Jaws update

Soronel Haetir
 

I certainly consider the screen tracking a useful addition, there have
been lots of times where I have been trying to show something to a
seeing-eye-human and have had a hard time getting across where I am
focused (sometimes selecting text works but even that isn't always an
option).

On 5/22/17, Dave... <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Interesting. Nothing fantastic jumps out with this release. Still nothing
that tells me it is more stable now. But, I paid for 18 so I'll continue to

update it, even though I'm using JAWS 16 full-time.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 09:33
Subject: Re: latest Jaws update


The page at http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/jaws/JAWSWhatsNew
lists what changes with each release, you have to skip past the
material that relates to the jaws release as a whole to the material
that is new for each build (currently starts at "Enhancements in JAWS
18.0.2945 (May 2017)")

This build has quite a lot of new material.

On 5/22/17, Don H <lmddh50@comcast.net> wrote:
Installed the Jaws update that popped up today. Install went just fine.
Is there a way to know what changes were made in such updates?
Thanks from a newbee




--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com






--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Re: Changing jaws language

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

Hello,

     This is for anyone on this list. 1. Go to the JAWS window—insert j and 2. Head to your options and voices submenue. This is alt o and arrowing down one time to voices submenu. 3. Go to your “voice adjustment …” by pressing the right arrow key on your keyboard. After pressing enter next to get in, tab about a couple times until you hear “synthesizer language” On mine, and aftdr the JAwS language thing, I hear English united states, and English united kingdom. Of course, this is after you’ve arrowed down to these. I would say just press enter to save your changes, closing the JAWS options voices dialogue. If this doesn’t work, please contact someone on this list for more help.

Ashleigh Piccinino

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Morne van der Merwe
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 8:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Changing jaws language

 

Hello listers

 

I’m new to JAWS. I migrated from Window-eyes to jaws.  I want to change the jaws language from American English to British English. I go to jaws languages but it says “unavailable”. Is there a way to activate it?

 

Regards

Morne

 


Re: latest Jaws update

Dave...
 

Interesting. Nothing fantastic jumps out with this release. Still nothing
that tells me it is more stable now. But, I paid for 18 so I'll continue to
update it, even though I'm using JAWS 16 full-time.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 09:33
Subject: Re: latest Jaws update


The page at http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/jaws/JAWSWhatsNew
lists what changes with each release, you have to skip past the
material that relates to the jaws release as a whole to the material
that is new for each build (currently starts at "Enhancements in JAWS
18.0.2945 (May 2017)")

This build has quite a lot of new material.

On 5/22/17, Don H <lmddh50@comcast.net> wrote:
Installed the Jaws update that popped up today. Install went just fine.
Is there a way to know what changes were made in such updates?
Thanks from a newbee




--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com