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Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

Mario
 

Caroline, you mean caps lock, don't you?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 1:33 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

Carol, if you'll go into Basics and set to Laptop, then the Shift-Lock
will be your JAWS hot key. You'll have to press it twice, if you really
want to use Shift-Lock.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol
Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

Hi again, Pablo,

The suggestion for Kurzweil will not work. Jaws is turned off and since
Kurzweil uses the insert key, it can't be used to activate Jaws. Maybe
someone else has the correct answer. It might be that there is a way to
stop the Jaws functions from being turned off before the program loads.

Carol


On 5/20/2017 9:46 AM, Pablo Morales wrote:
You can press insert + space bar, then s to toggle speech off or on.
I am trying to do the opposite of what you want to do. I am wondering
how did you do to make jaws speak on Kurzweil?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 2:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

How do I get Jaws to stop speaking while running programs that have
their own speech? For example, Kurzweil has a Jaws built-in way to take
care of this. I would like to play my BlindGamers games without having
to shut Jaws down completely. Can this be done? Thanks.

Carol

















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Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Carol, if you'll go into Basics and set to Laptop, then the Shift-Lock will be your JAWS hot key. You'll have to press it twice, if you really want to use Shift-Lock.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

Hi again, Pablo,

The suggestion for Kurzweil will not work. Jaws is turned off and since Kurzweil uses the insert key, it can't be used to activate Jaws. Maybe someone else has the correct answer. It might be that there is a way to stop the Jaws functions from being turned off before the program loads.

Carol


On 5/20/2017 9:46 AM, Pablo Morales wrote:
You can press insert + space bar, then s to toggle speech off or on.
I am trying to do the opposite of what you want to do. I am wondering how did you do to make jaws speak on Kurzweil?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 2:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

How do I get Jaws to stop speaking while running programs that have their own speech? For example, Kurzweil has a Jaws built-in way to take care of this. I would like to play my BlindGamers games without having to shut Jaws down completely. Can this be done? Thanks.

Carol









Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

 

On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 10:01 am, Philip Hall wrote:
Yes, jaws only sleeps while you are focused on the self-voicing application.

 Thanks very much for this clarification.   I can think of a lot of instances where this information might be invaluable, particularly if a user has to keep flipping between self-voicing programs and those that do not self-voice.   It gets really tedious to have to turn speech on/off when you absolutely know that for a given program you want it to be off and stay off any time you have focus on that program's window.
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Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

Philip Hall <p.hall.eml1@...>
 

Yes, jaws only sleeps while you are focused on the self-voicing application.

If you alt+tab or bring focus to a different application or to your desktop, Jaws will wake up again.

 

The reason is because jaws automatically loads  configuration files  that correspond to the application that you bring focus too. Each configuration has its own settings such as the

Sleep mode.

 

Phil

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 12:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

 

On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 07:18 am, Philip Hall wrote:

This is extremely simple.

Great piece of information.  My only question is if one uses this technique will JAWS speech automatically be "awakened" when you exit the program that you've created that script for that puts it to sleep?   Or does one have to create a corresponding "wake back up" script for the "on exit from program" condition?

I'm trying to pull together this and Ed Marquette's offering.
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Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

 

On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 07:18 am, Philip Hall wrote:
This is extremely simple.

Great piece of information.  My only question is if one uses this technique will JAWS speech automatically be "awakened" when you exit the program that you've created that script for that puts it to sleep?   Or does one have to create a corresponding "wake back up" script for the "on exit from program" condition?

I'm trying to pull together this and Ed Marquette's offering.
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Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

 

Carol,

         I don't have Kurzweil, but I know that JAWS and other screen readers have a "Key Pass Through" function that allows you to hit a key sequence that tells the program to ignore the next key sequence and pass it along to the next program in the "key capturing hierarchy" that's in place at the time.  Does Kurzweil have this feature?  It's worth checking and it would seem that it should.
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Re: WE to JAWS documentation?

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Hi Shannon,

 

You can have different voice settings for the PC cursor, Jaws cursor, keyboard voice and tutor and message voice. This includes a different Eloquence voice, different speed or pitch. I find Reed and Glenn are quite similar and the most useful Eloquence voices, I think by default the Jaws cursor uses Rocko which I don’t like at all and voices like Grandpa, Grandma, Shelly, Bobby and Sandy sound pretty silly to me.

If you want to change voice settings, press Jaws Key (Insert)+J, press enter on Options, go down one to Voices and press enter or spacebar to expand the submenu, then press enter on Voice Adjustment. Now tab 4 times until you get to the “Voice Adjust Combo Box”, you have “All Context” at the top, here you can only adjust the voice rate, volume etc. which then applies to all other voices. Down one is the PC cursor voice, here you can select one of the Eloquence voices (Reed is the default), adjust also the voice rate which then would only apply to the PC cursor, adjust punctuation and voice pitch. The first thing I always do when I install Jaws on a new PC is to cranc up the voice rate and then I lower the pitch which to me is way to high. I usually set it to “41” which translates to 40%.\

You can, of course, also download any of the Vocalizer Expressive voices as well and use them.

In order to do this, after you download and install them, you would first arrow down in the list of synthesizers to “Vocalizer Expressive”, then tab over 4 times and you have the same options for All context, PC cursor voice, Jaws cursor voice, keyboard voice and tutor and message voice. Go, for example, to PC cursor voice and tab one more time and you can then select any of the voices you may have downloaded, for example, Samantha. Once you made your selection it’s best to tab to the “Save As” button and in my example, save it as “Samntha” or “Vocalizer – Samantha”. This allows you to use the Jaws Key+Control+S hotkey to bring up the voice profile manager and if you saved it as “Samantha” then that is one of the choices here and you can easily switch to it.

In the same way you could, if you need it, set up profiles for different languages.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: WE to JAWS documentation?

 

Hi all,

I got my code and my copy of JAWS is live.

 

I now belong to quite a few mailing lists, and in one of the MANY messages regarding the WE to JAWS conversion it was mentioned that there were some specific documents on the topic or maybe it was a pod cast?

Has anyone else heard this? I sure can’t find it.

If anyone has the link for such things I would appreciate it if you could share it.

Ha Ha I would really love a JAWS to WE translation guide!

So many of the concepts are using different language than I am used to.

I am sure having trouble with the perspective of which curser is giving the feedback. Can I change the voices for all the different cursers? So I can tell who is talking to me?

 

 

Thanks

Shannon


Re: New to this group but Not to the Jaws program

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Welcome Portia!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Portia Mason via Groups.Io
Sent: May 19, 2017 11:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New to this group but Not to the Jaws program

 

My name is Portia and I have been a Jaws since the beginning. But, since using the newer version of Jaws which is 18, there are programs I want to use but don’t know all the commands or how to use them. I will definitely have a lot of questions for you.

I have tried to get into the help section of the jaws program but having difficulty using it altogether.

So, I figure joining this group will help me with getting some basic steps to some of the programs.

 


Re: Facebook and messaging

Mike Rogers
 

Hi.
I don't have trouble with messaging, but my sighted wife has trouble with it withher I-pad. she can't use it. Doesn't make sense.

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"Maria Campbell" <lucky1inct@gmail.com> wrote:

Is there anyone using the m.facebook page, who has success with messaging? I don't have much success, and the messenger page more often than not crashes when I try to open it after someone has sent me a message. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.



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Facebook and messaging

Maria Campbell
 

Is there anyone using the m.facebook page, who has success with messaging? I don't have much success, and the messenger page more often than not crashes when I try to open it after someone has sent me a message. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.



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Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

Carol Smith
 

The insert-space with s works great. It does not take much effort to turn speech off and on, provided one knows how to do it, grin. I am enjoying my games between cramming my brain with Jaws commands, LOL!

Carol

On 5/20/2017 10:06 AM, Marquette, Ed wrote:
I'm late to this list. The below suggestion does work fine, but if this self-voicing program is something lots of blind persons use, I'm surprised there is no script for it that turns off speech.
I think such a script could be written pretty easily.
When the program opens, the script file would run automatically. The function would simply be the built-in function {SpeechOff}
Then, to exit the program, one might invent an exit keystroke such as shift+Windows+X. That would turn speech back on and exit the program by, for instance, sending Alt + f
And then
"x", using the built-in TypeKey function.
I'm not a terribly proficient script writer, but I think that may do it.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 8:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

Carol, JAWSKey(insert)+spacebar then s to turn speech off or on.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io [mailto:carollablady=aol.com@groups.io]
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 2:40 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

How do I get Jaws to stop speaking while running programs that have their own speech? For example, Kurzweil has a Jaws built-in way to take care of this. I would like to play my BlindGamers games without having to shut Jaws down completely. Can this be done? Thanks.

Carol




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Re: help with verbalizing items

Carol Smith
 

Thank you. This works great for number input only, but I suppose I can get used to using the words mode and just double-check entries when in standard typing. Window-Eyes had a specific setting where numbers could be echoed every time a number was pressed and I used that a lot. I do, however, use words much more often than numbers, so I guess this will just be one more transition. Thanks everyone for trying to help.

Carol

On 5/20/2017 10:04 AM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
You might want to set on character and word. I have mine set on character, but if you want to hear the numbers like that, character and word would get it for you. Otherwise, you won't hear anything until you hit a Spacebar or punctuation.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 9:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with verbalizing items

When I have my setting to characters, of course, it will do this, but I type fast enough that I prefer to use words. If I type something like dv-12345, I don't hear the numbers until I press enter, space or punctuation.

For some things, it is not a problem, but when editing numbers, I prefer to make certain I am entering them correctly, so I prefer to press 1 and hear 1 and then 2 , hear 2, etc. I just went back and made another couple of test changes. There does not seem to be a way to do what I am looking for. Thank you, though, for being so helpful. Doing these things are a good way to learn what type of things are found in different settings and how to use them.

Carol


On 5/19/2017 9:26 PM, Bill White wrote:
Hi again, Carol. My copy of JAWS echoes back numbers as they are typed, regardless of which setting Characters/Words/None is on with INSERT plus Two.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 6:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with verbalizing items

Thank you very much. My main concern is when typing the numbers from
the keyboard. The reading is not a problem as much as I need to hear
what I am typing. I don't want all numbers spoken this way, grin. This
would have been a keyboard setting in Window-Eyes. I did find the
setting for echoing words and I have that set, but will this result in
echoing numbers as digits when being typed?

Carol


On 5/19/2017 9:09 PM, Bill White wrote:
Hi, Carol. If you press the INSERT or JAWS key as it is sometimes called by JAWS users, with the number two on the numbers row, you can change whether JAWS echos back characters, words, or nothint at all. If it is set to echo words, the word will be spoken right after pressing the space bar, or a punctuation key.

As to setting numbers to be spoken as single digits, this setting is under JAWS Settings, INSERT plus six on the number row. Then navigate down to Text Processing, and change the setting to single digits, controlled by synthesizer. That should allow speaking of single digits.

I hope this helps you.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 6:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: help with verbalizing items

In Window-Eyes, it was possible to have words spoken after pressing
space or punctuation or the spacebar. It was also possible to have each
digit of a number spoken immediately when typed, such as 123 being
echoed as 1 2 3. Is this possible with Jaws? Also, I read earlier that
someone had asked if there was a way to get Jaws to stop saying alt
tab. If that question was answered, I did not see a reply. Of course,
I have gone through over 300 email messages today, and it is very
possible I might have overlooked the reply. So, I am asking again,
grin. Thanks.

Carol
























Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

Carol Smith
 

Hi again, Pablo,

The suggestion for Kurzweil will not work. Jaws is turned off and since Kurzweil uses the insert key, it can't be used to activate Jaws. Maybe someone else has the correct answer. It might be that there is a way to stop the Jaws functions from being turned off before the program loads.

Carol

On 5/20/2017 9:46 AM, Pablo Morales wrote:
You can press insert + space bar, then s to toggle speech off or on.
I am trying to do the opposite of what you want to do. I am wondering how did you do to make jaws speak on Kurzweil?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 2:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

How do I get Jaws to stop speaking while running programs that have their own speech? For example, Kurzweil has a Jaws built-in way to take care of this. I would like to play my BlindGamers games without having to shut Jaws down completely. Can this be done? Thanks.

Carol








Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

Philip Hall <p.hall.eml1@...>
 

This is extremely simple.
Open the application in question.

Press jaws key + the number six on the numbers row to launch jaws settings center.

you will open in add new configuration manager.
A default name will be automatically entered in the application name.
Press enter to accept.

You will be in a search edit box.
Type sleep
You will be presented with two results.

Arrow down to
Sleep mode.
Press the space bar to check it
Tab to the ok button and press enter.
Now, whenever you launch the self voicing application, jaws will be automatically put to sleep.



Phil

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 10:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

I'm late to this list. The below suggestion does work fine, but if this self-voicing program is something lots of blind persons use, I'm surprised there is no script for it that turns off speech.
I think such a script could be written pretty easily.
When the program opens, the script file would run automatically. The function would simply be the built-in function {SpeechOff}
Then, to exit the program, one might invent an exit keystroke such as shift+Windows+X. That would turn speech back on and exit the program by, for instance, sending Alt + f
And then
"x", using the built-in TypeKey function.
I'm not a terribly proficient script writer, but I think that may do it.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 8:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

Carol, JAWSKey(insert)+spacebar then s to turn speech off or on.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io [mailto:carollablady=aol.com@groups.io]
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 2:40 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

How do I get Jaws to stop speaking while running programs that have their own speech? For example, Kurzweil has a Jaws built-in way to take care of this. I would like to play my BlindGamers games without having to shut Jaws down completely. Can this be done? Thanks.

Carol




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Re: getting rid of annoying speech

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

You can type in the word you want changed, once you have entered the dictionary and pressed the Spacebar. Then at the next tab stop comes the fun time of figuring out a word that will sound right. I went through before sending the email about going to OK and then saving, to make sure I gave the right instructions, and the word that I worked on was idolator - familiar to Bible readers - fun and games with that one to be sure.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 7:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting rid of annoying speech

Not sure what is going on with the email problem.
For the pronunciation dictionary, however, the tool is very powerful, but that can sometimes be the problem.
Before changing the pronunciation of a word, be sure your cursor is on the first character of the word.
It may not be necessary, but I route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor before invoking the pronunciation dictionary hotkey.
Then, press Jaws Key + d (for dictionary).
I usually have to tab a couple of times to get "add" into focus. Then, press SpaceBar.
Now the word whose pronunciation needs changing should be in an edit box.
Double-check it. I always ensure there are no trailing spaces, but I don't think that's necessary either.
Then, press tab to the edit box where you change the spelling of the word so it sounds right.
Then, usually, tab across to OK. Along the way, check to see that all the options are set correctly, including whether the pronunciation change is case sensitive. That should be off by default, but ...
Now comes the part I sometimes forget. Be sure to "save" the file.
Just to be certain, I always save twice -- when I remember.
Then, exit the pronunciation dictionary.
That usually works.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 6:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: getting rid of annoying speech

OK, I am back with a different issue, grin.


Every time I open an email, I hear things like x western or x Unicode.
When I arrow through the text, it is voiced, but there is nothing there. I assume this is some type of formatting indicator, but how can I make this go away?

With the same general idea, how do I change pronunciations for words that are incorrectly spoken with my synthesizer? I tried to make changes and it appeared I had done it, but when I went back to my document, the change did not take effect. I did choose global rather than application for the changes.

Thank you again. This is turning out to be a very informative group.

Carol






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Re: help with verbalizing items

Mario
 

when pressing JAWSKey (insert)+numrow 2 to cycle thru the choices, there
should be a "both characters and words".

-------- Original Message --------
From: David Moore [mailto:jesusloves1966@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 1:01 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: help with verbalizing items

Hi,
Unfortunately, you cannot hear every character sometimes, and just hear
words other times. You can only choose between hear characters, words,
charactors and words all of the time, or nothing LOL! That would be nice
if you could hear just words, but numbers one at a time.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 9:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with verbalizing items

When I have my setting to characters, of course, it will do this, but I
type fast enough that I prefer to use words. If I type something like
dv-12345, I don't hear the numbers until I press enter, space or
punctuation.

For some things, it is not a problem, but when editing numbers, I prefer
to make certain I am entering them correctly, so I prefer to press 1 and
hear 1 and then 2 , hear 2, etc. I just went back and made another
couple of test changes. There does not seem to be a way to do what I am
looking for. Thank you, though, for being so helpful. Doing these
things are a good way to learn what type of things are found in
different settings and how to use them.

Carol


On 5/19/2017 9:26 PM, Bill White wrote:
Hi again, Carol. My copy of JAWS echoes back numbers as they are typed,
regardless of which setting Characters/Words/None is on with INSERT plus
Two.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol
Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 6:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: help with verbalizing items

Thank you very much. My main concern is when typing the numbers from
the keyboard. The reading is not a problem as much as I need to hear
what I am typing. I don't want all numbers spoken this way, grin. This
would have been a keyboard setting in Window-Eyes. I did find the
setting for echoing words and I have that set, but will this result in
echoing numbers as digits when being typed?

Carol


On 5/19/2017 9:09 PM, Bill White wrote:
Hi, Carol. If you press the INSERT or JAWS key as it is sometimes called
by JAWS users, with the number two on the numbers row, you can change
whether JAWS echos back characters, words, or nothint at all. If it is
set to echo words, the word will be spoken right after pressing the
space bar, or a punctuation key.

As to setting numbers to be spoken as single digits, this setting is
under JAWS Settings, INSERT plus six on the number row. Then navigate
down to Text Processing, and change the setting to single digits,
controlled by synthesizer. That should allow speaking of single digits.

I hope this helps you.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carol
Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 6:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: help with verbalizing items

In Window-Eyes, it was possible to have words spoken after pressing
space or punctuation or the spacebar. It was also possible to have each
digit of a number spoken immediately when typed, such as 123 being
echoed as 1 2 3. Is this possible with Jaws? Also, I read earlier that
someone had asked if there was a way to get Jaws to stop saying alt
tab. If that question was answered, I did not see a reply. Of course,
I have gone through over 300 email messages today, and it is very
possible I might have overlooked the reply. So, I am asking again,
grin. Thanks.

Carol


Re: getting rid of annoying speech

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

When you change word pronunciation, first thing, Press Shift-Control-D for default to all programs. Then Press Enter to add. Once you are satisfied with your selection, be sure to Tab to OK, then Save changes when you Exit the program.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

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OK, I am back with a different issue, grin.


Every time I open

an email, I hear things like x western or x Unicode.
When I arrow through the text, it is voiced, but there is nothing there. I assume this is some type of formatting indicator, but how can I make this go away?

With the same general idea, how do I change pronunciations for words that are incorrectly spoken with my synthesizer? I tried to make changes and it appeared I had done it, but when I went back to my document, the change did not take effect. I did choose global rather than application for the changes.

Thank you again. This is turning out to be a very informative group.

Carol


Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

Carol Smith
 

I haven't actually tried this, but it might be possible to set synthesizers to none. As far as Kurzweil's numpad keys, you may have to substitute menu actions or possibly function key actions to navigate in general.

Thanks for the hot key to turn off the speech. I did stumble upon it last night.

Carol

On 5/20/2017 9:46 AM, Pablo Morales wrote:
You can press insert + space bar, then s to toggle speech off or on. I am trying to do the opposite of what you want to do. I am wondering how did you do to make jaws speak on Kurzweil?

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How do I get Jaws to stop speaking while running programs that have their own speech? For example, Kurzweil has a Jaws built-in way to take care of this. I would like to play my BlindGamers games without having to shut Jaws down completely. Can this be done? Thanks.

Carol








Re: silencing Jaws during self-voicing programs

Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@...>
 

I'm late to this list. The below suggestion does work fine, but if this self-voicing program is something lots of blind persons use, I'm surprised there is no script for it that turns off speech.
I think such a script could be written pretty easily.
When the program opens, the script file would run automatically. The function would simply be the built-in function {SpeechOff}
Then, to exit the program, one might invent an exit keystroke such as shift+Windows+X. That would turn speech back on and exit the program by, for instance, sending Alt + f
And then
"x", using the built-in TypeKey function.
I'm not a terribly proficient script writer, but I think that may do it.

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Carol, JAWSKey(insert)+spacebar then s to turn speech off or on.

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How do I get Jaws to stop speaking while running programs that have their own speech? For example, Kurzweil has a Jaws built-in way to take care of this. I would like to play my BlindGamers games without having to shut Jaws down completely. Can this be done? Thanks.

Carol




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Re: help with verbalizing items

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

You might want to set on character and word. I have mine set on character, but if you want to hear the numbers like that, character and word would get it for you. Otherwise, you won't hear anything until you hit a Spacebar or punctuation.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

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When I have my setting to characters, of course, it will do this, but I type fast enough that I prefer to use words. If I type something like dv-12345, I don't hear the numbers until I press enter, space or punctuation.

For some things, it is not a problem, but when editing numbers, I prefer to make certain I am entering them correctly, so I prefer to press 1 and hear 1 and then 2 , hear 2, etc. I just went back and made another couple of test changes. There does not seem to be a way to do what I am looking for. Thank you, though, for being so helpful. Doing these things are a good way to learn what type of things are found in different settings and how to use them.

Carol


On 5/19/2017 9:26 PM, Bill White wrote:
Hi again, Carol. My copy of JAWS echoes back numbers as they are typed, regardless of which setting Characters/Words/None is on with INSERT plus Two.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


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Thank you very much. My main concern is when typing the numbers from
the keyboard. The reading is not a problem as much as I need to hear
what I am typing. I don't want all numbers spoken this way, grin. This
would have been a keyboard setting in Window-Eyes. I did find the
setting for echoing words and I have that set, but will this result in
echoing numbers as digits when being typed?

Carol


On 5/19/2017 9:09 PM, Bill White wrote:
Hi, Carol. If you press the INSERT or JAWS key as it is sometimes called by JAWS users, with the number two on the numbers row, you can change whether JAWS echos back characters, words, or nothint at all. If it is set to echo words, the word will be spoken right after pressing the space bar, or a punctuation key.

As to setting numbers to be spoken as single digits, this setting is under JAWS Settings, INSERT plus six on the number row. Then navigate down to Text Processing, and change the setting to single digits, controlled by synthesizer. That should allow speaking of single digits.

I hope this helps you.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

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In Window-Eyes, it was possible to have words spoken after pressing
space or punctuation or the spacebar. It was also possible to have each
digit of a number spoken immediately when typed, such as 123 being
echoed as 1 2 3. Is this possible with Jaws? Also, I read earlier that
someone had asked if there was a way to get Jaws to stop saying alt
tab. If that question was answered, I did not see a reply. Of course,
I have gone through over 300 email messages today, and it is very
possible I might have overlooked the reply. So, I am asking again,
grin. Thanks.

Carol