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Re: The answer is not to tell us that buying a new version of JAWS is the proper solution.

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

My experience with the now, VFO Technical Support has been world class.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The answer is not to tell us that buying a new version of JAWS is the proper solution.

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 08:31 am, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:


I’ll bet a nickel I’ve been using PC’s longer than the last twit to whom I spoke, but there’s one in every crowd.

When it comes to technical support in general my observation over the course of decades is that far too many who are sitting behind those phones are neither technically proficient nor supportive.

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Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Shannon,

          I'm not Ted, but I'll venture he's referring to VLC Media Player, though I don't know what he's referring to by "the tabs" in the context of VLC.  I will be curious to see his joint response, which I'm sure will be forthcoming.

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Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Shannon
 

Hi Ted,
With all the new terminology that I am learning, could you tell me what you
mean by (see VLC)?
There are so many different things in JAWS and the feature names are not
familiar to me. I get lost in all the new words.

ThanksShannon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 2:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

I Believe the tabs also work (see VLC). It shows controls you can't see any
other way. Wish it knew what they were!

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Hi,
There are two touch cursor navigation modes: basic and advanced. The basic
mode will let you navigate controls within an app (left and right arrows),
while advanced mode will let you navigate through object hierarchy/GUI
element tree structure.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

No, This isn't the reason it isn't finding the controls. Rotor is only used
in Gesture mode. This is, I believe only applicable when using an actual
touch screen.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shannon" <shannon@bartchroofing.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns


Bill,
This is kind of cool. It could find some of the controls I know are
there but can't reach. It doesn't find all of them though.
I just popped into jaws 40 min mode to give this a brief test run. The
arrow keys and the number pad tab and shift tab move this guy around
but I heard the numpad say something about rotering through different
kinds of controls.
I didn't know what that meant. Is that why it can't find the other
things I know are there? They are different from the ones it did find?
Mostly it found buttons and headers.
Thanks for the info.
Shannon
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mario
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Bill, so when using the touch cursor, there's no need to use the arrow
keys, right? I'm asking because I really don't know how to use it.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:41 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Hi, Shannon. To activate the Touch Cursor:

1. Open the program you want to navigate.

2.

Press SHIFT plus the plus sign on the Number Pad, or if using laptop
layout,

SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON



Once the Touch Cursor is active, use TAB and SHIFT plus TAB to
navigate between the various controls. When you find a control you
want to activate, press SPACE BAR.

Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns



Oh, this could be the thing I am looking for. These three programs
that are really giving me trouble are just like that! They have
buttons and pull downs and menues that are not tab, shift, tab Ctrl
Tab or arrow key reachable.

To get to them the mouse find command was hit or miss and mostly missed.

Any quicky pointers on this nifty little thing? I always wondered what
perspective was being read when I used the number pad with JAWS? It
never seamed to be doing what I thought it should. We uses the numpad
for the mouse. So If this little thing is like a mouse only not a
mouse, how do you control it? Can you click when you find it?

Thanks

Shannon



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns



There are basically 3 cursors. The regular PC cursor that is the
default and used most often. it navigates the controls using tab and
arrow keys. the second is the Jaws cursor that moves the mouse pointer
with the arrow keys.
this is usually only used when PC cursor wont work. the touch cursor
was Jaws fix for windows using things that don't work with the first
two cursors. It is used with the left right arrow keys. I only started
using the touch cursor in windows 10. It is not as complicated as it
sounds once you have used them for a wile.
On 5/17/2017 12:01 PM, Shannon wrote:

That is the second time I have heard about this touch curser?

So Jaws has 4 kinds of cursers? Jaws curser,virtual curser PC curser
Mouse over lay, and now a Touch curser?

Oh boy. What is a touch curser for? If that is for a tablet then I can
not worry about it. I don't have one of those.

Audio ducking sounds like a good thing. I can't tell you or most
likely, I don't have to tell you, how annoying and difficult to deal
with the sounds from a web page while useing a screen reader at the same
time.



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns



Hi,

At least for now, Window-Eyes will work on Windows 10 (including the
latest release which is Creators Update), but that's not always going
to be so in the future. There are certain features introduced in later
JAWS releases that makes Windows 10 and universal apps a bit easier to
use, the most important of which is touch cursor (JAWS 15). There are
also features that takes advantage of Windows 8.x and 10 functionality
such as audio ducking (JAWS 18); regarding audio ducking, it has
received mixed reviews.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns



Randy ,

You know, I strongly suspected that to be the case. I was too afraid
to get Win 10 when they were offering it so I didn't. Sigh.

Too many things could have gone wrong and then what would I do?

Now I am stuck with it. And now it looks like there is a newer version
coming out? Creator?

Oh boy!

Thanks

Shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns



Its windows 8.1! Universally disliked. :) Just my opinion but win 10
is better than win 8.1 and I dont care for win 10 all that much. But
to be fair it isnt terrible either I just think win 7 is better.
On 5/17/2017 10:42 AM, Shannon wrote:

I am running windows 8.1.

I am not a big fan of it either. Actually I am not sure what exactly I
don't like. This computer has been goofy since I got it. Not sure if
it was Windows or WE but it gives me fits all the time in all the
programs mentioned. Don't really know which is the culprit.



Thanks

Shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns



Jaws works with office 2010 pretty well. Surfing the web and doing
most tasks. Witch version of windows do you have at work? win 7 is my
preference and most business's still use it.
On 5/17/2017 10:19 AM, Dennis L wrote:

Jaws works fine with office 2010. It can surf the web fine.






From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns



Good morning,

I am a potential new user of JAWS. I would be one of many conversions
from WindowEyes.

I have downloaded the trial of JAWS 18 and pretty concerned about what
it can and cannot do.

I know that there is a large learning curve I will have to go through,
and that is only one of my concerns.

I have been reading the list for the last few days and a few things
mentioned by others concern me.

I also use here at work Office 2010, Outlook, Word and Excel all the time.

I saw a mention of excel not working well with JAWS? Is that true?
That would be a deal breaker for me.

I use spread sheets every single day to do my job. I also use on a
daily basis the MS Query feature. Will JAWS handle the queries?

I make mail merge documents frequently and they tie to the MS Databases.



Will Jaws work with outlook 2010? I have over 10 different email
profiles set up and I need access to them.

Does JAWS have a way to search the screen for text or buttons to be
clicked by the mouse or a "HotSpot" feature as WE did/does? I use that
feature everyday along with custom scripts to get access to the time
keeping software programs.

The language in the control panel seams so foreign to me. I can't
tell, but it seems as if Jaws acknowledges 4 kinds of cursers? A
virtual curser, a JAWS curser, PC Curser, and something called Mouse
overlay?

Is the Jaws curser the mouse? What is the Mouse overlay? Can I read
the screen with the mouse?



Since I am new and don't know how it works and how to configure it I
can't tell what I can and can't do.

I can tell that many functions of the accounting program, and the
three programs that are involved in time tracking do not behave well
and most likely are going to require special custom scripts.

Before I spend a lot of money and time I want to know if Jaws can even
do the little stuff like Office and surfing the web?

If JAWS doesn't like Office 2010 what version does it like?

Thanks for your time.

Shannon





















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Re: major warning about c cleaner and windows 10

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Heck, the only thing I ever worried about was the registry cleaner anyway; good point.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 3:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: major warning about c cleaner and windows 10

 

I've been using CCleaner (not the registry cleaner option - I never use those) for disc cleanup, browser cache cleanup, and a number of it's other tidying functions since the XP days (I think, I know since Windows 7) and use it routinely under Windows 10 on multiple machines, both 32 and 64 bit, and under every Version of Windows 10 Home 64-bit and Windows 10 Pro 32-bit that's been issued so far.

It has not caused any issues for me.   Given the long history of this product and the lack of any widely reported issues with it this would indicate what was experienced was idiosyncratic in some way.  That's not "blaming the user" either, it's just an observable thing.  If CCleaner were taking down Windows 10 systems with any frequency the technical press would have been all over it by now.  It would almost amount to a scandal.
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Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I Believe the tabs also work (see VLC). It shows controls you can't see any other way. Wish it knew what they were!

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Hi,
There are two touch cursor navigation modes: basic and advanced. The basic
mode will let you navigate controls within an app (left and right arrows),
while advanced mode will let you navigate through object hierarchy/GUI
element tree structure.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

No, This isn't the reason it isn't finding the controls. Rotor is only used
in Gesture mode. This is, I believe only applicable when using an actual
touch screen.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shannon" <shannon@bartchroofing.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns


Bill,
This is kind of cool. It could find some of the controls I know are
there but can't reach. It doesn't find all of them though.
I just popped into jaws 40 min mode to give this a brief test run. The
arrow keys and the number pad tab and shift tab move this guy around
but I heard the numpad say something about rotering through different
kinds of controls.
I didn't know what that meant. Is that why it can't find the other
things I know are there? They are different from the ones it did find?
Mostly it found buttons and headers.
Thanks for the info.
Shannon
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mario
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Bill, so when using the touch cursor, there's no need to use the arrow
keys, right? I'm asking because I really don't know how to use it.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:41 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Hi, Shannon. To activate the Touch Cursor:

1. Open the program you want to navigate.

2.

Press SHIFT plus the plus sign on the Number Pad, or if using laptop
layout,

SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON



Once the Touch Cursor is active, use TAB and SHIFT plus TAB to
navigate between the various controls. When you find a control you
want to activate, press SPACE BAR.

Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns



Oh, this could be the thing I am looking for. These three programs
that are really giving me trouble are just like that! They have
buttons and pull downs and menues that are not tab, shift, tab Ctrl
Tab or arrow key reachable.

To get to them the mouse find command was hit or miss and mostly missed.

Any quicky pointers on this nifty little thing? I always wondered what
perspective was being read when I used the number pad with JAWS? It
never seamed to be doing what I thought it should. We uses the numpad
for the mouse. So If this little thing is like a mouse only not a
mouse, how do you control it? Can you click when you find it?

Thanks

Shannon



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns



There are basically 3 cursors. The regular PC cursor that is the
default and used most often. it navigates the controls using tab and
arrow keys. the second is the Jaws cursor that moves the mouse pointer
with the arrow keys.
this is usually only used when PC cursor wont work. the touch cursor
was Jaws fix for windows using things that don't work with the first
two cursors. It is used with the left right arrow keys. I only started
using the touch cursor in windows 10. It is not as complicated as it
sounds once you have used them for a wile.
On 5/17/2017 12:01 PM, Shannon wrote:

That is the second time I have heard about this touch curser?

So Jaws has 4 kinds of cursers? Jaws curser,virtual curser PC curser
Mouse over lay, and now a Touch curser?

Oh boy. What is a touch curser for? If that is for a tablet then I can
not worry about it. I don't have one of those.

Audio ducking sounds like a good thing. I can't tell you or most
likely, I don't have to tell you, how annoying and difficult to deal
with the sounds from a web page while useing a screen reader at the same
time.



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns



Hi,

At least for now, Window-Eyes will work on Windows 10 (including the
latest release which is Creators Update), but that's not always going
to be so in the future. There are certain features introduced in later
JAWS releases that makes Windows 10 and universal apps a bit easier to
use, the most important of which is touch cursor (JAWS 15). There are
also features that takes advantage of Windows 8.x and 10 functionality
such as audio ducking (JAWS 18); regarding audio ducking, it has
received mixed reviews.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns



Randy ,

You know, I strongly suspected that to be the case. I was too afraid
to get Win 10 when they were offering it so I didn't. Sigh.

Too many things could have gone wrong and then what would I do?

Now I am stuck with it. And now it looks like there is a newer version
coming out? Creator?

Oh boy!

Thanks

Shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns



Its windows 8.1! Universally disliked. :) Just my opinion but win 10
is better than win 8.1 and I dont care for win 10 all that much. But
to be fair it isnt terrible either I just think win 7 is better.
On 5/17/2017 10:42 AM, Shannon wrote:

I am running windows 8.1.

I am not a big fan of it either. Actually I am not sure what exactly I
don't like. This computer has been goofy since I got it. Not sure if
it was Windows or WE but it gives me fits all the time in all the
programs mentioned. Don't really know which is the culprit.



Thanks

Shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns



Jaws works with office 2010 pretty well. Surfing the web and doing
most tasks. Witch version of windows do you have at work? win 7 is my
preference and most business's still use it.
On 5/17/2017 10:19 AM, Dennis L wrote:

Jaws works fine with office 2010. It can surf the web fine.






From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns



Good morning,

I am a potential new user of JAWS. I would be one of many conversions
from WindowEyes.

I have downloaded the trial of JAWS 18 and pretty concerned about what
it can and cannot do.

I know that there is a large learning curve I will have to go through,
and that is only one of my concerns.

I have been reading the list for the last few days and a few things
mentioned by others concern me.

I also use here at work Office 2010, Outlook, Word and Excel all the time.

I saw a mention of excel not working well with JAWS? Is that true?
That would be a deal breaker for me.

I use spread sheets every single day to do my job. I also use on a
daily basis the MS Query feature. Will JAWS handle the queries?

I make mail merge documents frequently and they tie to the MS Databases.



Will Jaws work with outlook 2010? I have over 10 different email
profiles set up and I need access to them.

Does JAWS have a way to search the screen for text or buttons to be
clicked by the mouse or a "HotSpot" feature as WE did/does? I use that
feature everyday along with custom scripts to get access to the time
keeping software programs.

The language in the control panel seams so foreign to me. I can't
tell, but it seems as if Jaws acknowledges 4 kinds of cursers? A
virtual curser, a JAWS curser, PC Curser, and something called Mouse
overlay?

Is the Jaws curser the mouse? What is the Mouse overlay? Can I read
the screen with the mouse?



Since I am new and don't know how it works and how to configure it I
can't tell what I can and can't do.

I can tell that many functions of the accounting program, and the
three programs that are involved in time tracking do not behave well
and most likely are going to require special custom scripts.

Before I spend a lot of money and time I want to know if Jaws can even
do the little stuff like Office and surfing the web?

If JAWS doesn't like Office 2010 what version does it like?

Thanks for your time.

Shannon





















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Re: major warning about c cleaner and windows 10

 

I've been using CCleaner (not the registry cleaner option - I never use those) for disc cleanup, browser cache cleanup, and a number of it's other tidying functions since the XP days (I think, I know since Windows 7) and use it routinely under Windows 10 on multiple machines, both 32 and 64 bit, and under every Version of Windows 10 Home 64-bit and Windows 10 Pro 32-bit that's been issued so far.

It has not caused any issues for me.   Given the long history of this product and the lack of any widely reported issues with it this would indicate what was experienced was idiosyncratic in some way.  That's not "blaming the user" either, it's just an observable thing.  If CCleaner were taking down Windows 10 systems with any frequency the technical press would have been all over it by now.  It would almost amount to a scandal.
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        Many are under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built.  Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.


Re: Problem with Firefox constantly refreshing and Jaws

 

Cristóbal,

            Have you tried to do what you're doing with at least one other browser, and preferably two?   I ask not because I don' think it should ultimately work in Firefox, but this could be a Firefox issue, a JAWS issue, or a webpage coding issue.   If this works under another browser we can eliminate (or at least really doubt) both the webpage coding and JAWS issues.

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        Many are under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built.  Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.


Re: JAWS and Wi-Fi___33-Enabled Amplifier

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

In case you care, they’re also controllable through Echo.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Wi-Fi___33-Enabled Amplifier

 

I totally agree with Randy, if you already have in-ceiling or in-wall speakers the Sonos Connect Amp is exactly what you want. The only situation where it might not be the best choice is if somebody has a lot of external sources like a CD Player, tape deck, turn table etc. I know most tape decks have long since been disconnected and turn tables are probably more rare than they are common, but some still use them. If all you have is a CD player then the Connect Amp does have 1 set of analogue RCA inputs.

 

I recently wrote a lengthy post about Sonos and I think it was on this list, you can probably find it in the archive. The Connect Amp connects to your WiFi, it has a 110 watts Class D amplifier and it can play music from just about every imagineable paid music subscription as well as from Tune In and iHeart Radio. Support for paid subscriptions includes Apple Music, Spotify, Deezer, Google Play Music, Sirius XM, Slacker, Tidal, Pandora and much more.

The Connect Amp itself has only a play/pause button and a volume rocker, it has the RCA input and a set of speaker outputs. There is also a set of ethernet ports so if you wanted you could wire it to your router, the second ethernet port is just an output so you wouldn't loose a router port. There is also a port if you have a powered subwover to plug that in.

Apart from all the internet music you can play your own digital music if you have it on your computer, ideal is saving it on a network attached hard drive as Sonos can access it and you can always play your music whether your computer is on or not.

You control the Sonos system via an iPhone or Android app and there is also a Windows app which works pretty well with Jaws. The iOS app is super accessible, I don't have an Android phone so can't speak for that.

The nice thing about Sonos is that you can continue to add players over time, if you later want to put one of their portable speakers elsewhere, you can buy either a Play 1, Play 3 or Play 5 and do this, any of these can also be set up as a stereo pair and if you have one of them in the kitchen but plan a barbecue outside you can just unplug it, plug it in outside and as long as it is in range of your WiFi you have music outside.

. There is also a a wireless Sonos Sub available which is $700 but amazing for that price. Lastly, you can set upa 5.1 system in your living room with a Sonos Playbar (a soundbar for underneath your TV), a Sonos Sub and a set of Play 1 or Play 3 speakers which in this setup become the rear speakers.

If you have multiple Sonos speakers/players you can set them up individually or in groups of 2 or more. You can of course play different things on all of them or group all of them together and play the same music everywhere in the house.

There are even apps for iOS and probably Android which allow you to use your iPhone and Sonos sytem as a PA system, you just open the app, select the speaker or group of speakers you ant and then tap talk and speak into your phone. What you say will be broadcast through your Sonos system with maybe a half second delay.

You can read more at www.Sonos.com, if you order directly you get free shippng, excellent customer service and a generous 45-day return period. Use it for up to 6 weeks and if you don't like it call them up and they'll give you an RA number and I think they even pay for the shipping back, but I'm not sure if they still do. I think if you look for reviews you'll find few bad ones.

One last thing, Sonos is not Airplay capable by itself. If you want to Airplay from an iPhone or iPad to Sonos you have to buy an Airport Express and hook it up to one of the Sonos components which has an input like the Sonos Connect Amp, Connect or Play 5. The Play 1 and Play 3 have no inputs and none of the Sonos components have a 3.5mm headphone jack.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Wi-Fi___33-Enabled Amplifier

 

Its pricey but the Sonos amp is what you are looking for it can play music from the internet or your PC or phone  has a analog input The PC and phone software is totally accessible. I have The play One, Play 3, Connect and connect amp and they all sound really good and like I said are totally compatible with Jaws and VO and I would think other screen readers as well.
On 5/17/2017 12:25 AM, Marquette, Ed wrote:

All:

I’ll ask my question first and then explain.

Is there such a thing as a WI-FI-enabled Amplifier that acts, for instance, like a Wi-Fi-enabled printer and that has a software-based control panel accessible using JAWS?

 

Now, for the reason for that question.  Several years back, we had an expensive set of wired speakers installed, during a remodeling job, in the ceiling and walls of a very large room in our home.  Apart from the uneasy relationship between JAWS and iTunes and Bluetooth connectivity challenges, I can sometimes play music on my laptop through the above-described amplification system.

The challenge is that Bluetooth is inherently flakey, and the amplifier is 100% inaccessible.  I have to guess to determine whether it is in Bluetooth reception mode.  Plus, it drops the pairing frequently, and pairing is a nightmare.  In addition, for Bluetooth even to work, one must keep the laptop and the amplifier in relatively close proximity to each other.

A Wi-Fi -enabled amplifier would simply appear on the network, like a printer.  An accessible control panel on the laptop would allow the amplifier to be controlled over the Wi-Fi network just the way one controls various functions of a Wi-Fi-enabled printer.

I’ve tried searching the Internet for “accessible amplifiers” and the like, but I’ve come up empty.

That such a device should exist seems obvious, but …

Of course, even if it does, there is a good chance that the control panel would be inaccessible. 

 

I. Edward Marquette

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Problem with Firefox constantly refreshing and Jaws

Cristóbal
 

Hello list,

So I’ve been encountering this problem today. In Firefox 53.0 and the latest JFW 18, the page is constantly refreshing making me lose my place. This is getting rather annoying fast.

Be it in a Google search results page or other pages. Side note, I’m trying to look up issues with my Outlook Exchange server not connecting, but it’s becoming nearly impossible since I’m always getting placed at the top of the page.

I have the refresh page settings in Jaws set to off and off the top of my head, don’t’ recall this issue present even yesterday. Firefox is my default browser, so haven’t yet tried another browser.

Any ideas how to stop this disruptive behavior?

Thanks,


Re: Office 365

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Yet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: May 18, 2017 8:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 365

Tom, this is the biggest reason I never signed up for MS 365. I've stayed with Office 2010 because I can use it easly and don't have to worry about newer versions and there lack of accessibility with JAWS.
Just my 1.96 cents worth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 365

Don:

For the most part, I would say that Jaws works reasonably well with Office 365, and particularly with Word and Outlook.

However, I do find that when Office 365 is updated (which turns out to be fairly frequently), certain functions that used to work properly no longer do. One recent example in this regard has been the ability to effectively navigate and edit e-mail groups in Outlook. For some reason, the usual arrow and other key commands don't seem to work as well as they once did.

I'll be interested in the thoughts of others.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Office 365

Does Jaws work well with Microsoft Office 365? Mostly concerned about how well it would work with Word and Outlook.
Thanks


Re: Office 365

 

I completely agree that if we are using these applications for work and want to be competitive it is important to stay up-to-date with software. Office 365 is a subscription, but you can download and install the Office Suite just the same as if you were to go and buy a copy of Office 2016. The advantage is that while it is an annual payment, it is in my opinion reasonable and it is made even more attractive by the fact you get 1 Tb of OneDrive storage and 60 monthly Skype minutes with it. You also are always up-to-date and while there always seem to be some challenges, I feel that Microsoft does have a commitment to accessibility and that in time this will actually lead to overall improvements and better accessibility rather than the other way round.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 365

I think we simply need to embrace and work out issues as they arise. I deal with the same thing with JAWS and IOS

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 365

Oh, I understand completely, Mike.

The thing is, though, that Microsoft is increasingly moving toward subscription services like Office 365. So, eventually, systems like Office 2010 are going to become obsolete and no longer supported.

I find myself railing aginst this trend more and more, because of its potentially serious accessibility implications for us, but I'm not quite sure what the best alternative really is at this time.

Will be interesting in the coming years, for sure.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 365

Tom, this is the biggest reason I never signed up for MS 365. I've stayed with Office 2010 because I can use it easly and don't have to worry about newer versions and there lack of accessibility with JAWS.
Just my 1.96 cents worth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 365

Don:

For the most part, I would say that Jaws works reasonably well with Office 365, and particularly with Word and Outlook.

However, I do find that when Office 365 is updated (which turns out to be fairly frequently), certain functions that used to work properly no longer do. One recent example in this regard has been the ability to effectively navigate and edit e-mail groups in Outlook. For some reason, the usual arrow and other key commands don't seem to work as well as they once did.

I'll be interested in the thoughts of others.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Office 365

Does Jaws work well with Microsoft Office 365? Mostly concerned about how well it would work with Word and Outlook.
Thanks


Re: major warning about c cleaner and windows 10

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Tell the truth, I've never had the guts to try it. I was actually considering it, but, when I think about it, I haven't had any recent problems requiring it, or anything like it.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: major warning about c cleaner and windows 10

Ok then take my suggestion for whatever it's worth I haven't had issues with it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: major warning about c cleaner and windows 10

Oh yes it could! We have a database here in the state that is, to put it mildly, the software from Hell. Any program, at any level, could be defective--not on purpose, mind you, but defective nonetheless.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: major warning about c cleaner and windows 10

I use C cleaner I have the pro version it works well. Take Microsoft Disability suggestions as that Suggestions. Would the program get development and releases if it was defective? I wouldn't think so.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 5:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: major warning about c cleaner and windows 10

Sieghard,

For myself, I would have taken the suggestion by the person at MS's Disability Helpline not to use CCleaner, in the same way as someone from a fast food company, suggesting or telling me not to buy food from any other fast food company.

A wise person would never put all their eggs in one basket.

LOL

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Robbins" <alan1057@me.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: major warning about c cleaner and windows 10


Sieghard,

Couple of years ago, MS accessibility warned me not to use this program anymore and at that point I simply uninstalled it and just use the built in MS tools.

Best,
Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 6:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: major warning about c cleaner and windows 10

Hi Jed,

If you have a copy of Windows 10 Creators Update on a USB stick, the entire installation process is accessible with Narrator, definitely worthwhile to create such a stick for the future.
Also, out of curiocity, did even Narrator not work any more?
As for those registry cleaners and optimizers and what have you, I have long since decided that they are all a bunch of BS. I used to have one as well and each time I ran it tere were things it found, then it said it had fixed whatever number of problems and when I ran it a minute later it had another couple of dozen problems, like I said, total BS in my opinion.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 2:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: major warning about c cleaner and windows 10

Hey guys,

OK for those of you using windows 10, i had a bad experience with c cleaner.
I ahve used it for years with various versions of windows, but never again with win 10. Long story short, i now have to re-format, not happy! I would not suggest it. I did a clean up yesterday, went to reboot, and had no speech. I hadc to have a friend come over and he's now working to re-install windows.


Re: The answer is not to tell us that buying a new version of JAWS is the proper solution.

 

Ted,

 

I think it is not uncommon that we speak to tech support agents that are much younger than us and have of course not been using computers as long. That however does not mean they don’t know more or can’t help with specific problems. You do of course run into some which seem to be not too knowledgeable and as far as I am concerned that is primarily a training issue, but if you call with the attitude that you have been using a PC longer and know more than you might as well not call, do the research about whatever problem you have and fix it yourself. I have been helped in a big way by Microsoft Accessibility as well as by Jaws support and other support lines on numerous occasions, if I feel I am talking to somebody who isn’t competent or willing to try his or her best I just hang up and call back or maybe ask for a higher level of support.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 8:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The answer is not to tell us that buying a new version of JAWS is the proper solution.

 

When we first started teaching Windows to talk here at the cabinet, DFB in Kentucky was promoting JAWS.  At that time, it was basic transportation, but stable, and that was 20 years ago.  I’d like to explore NVDA in some depth, but  may not find the time in the immediate future.

 

Re:  tech support, overall it has been really strong, but I have noticed a slight tendency toward condescension in some newer personnel.  I’ll bet a nickel I’ve been using  PC’s longer than the last twit to whom I spoke, but there’s one in every crowd.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The answer is not to tell us that buying a new version of JAWS is the proper solution.

 

Just for a tiny bit of perspective from someone who was once "on the other side" as a software developer it is unrealistic to expect any software maker to support a given version of something "in perpetuity."  Now, mind you, that's not to say that say, three or four of the most recent versions of a piece of software such as JAWS should not be simultaneously maintained, as I believe they should.  As many have pointed out, they're not seeking the new "bells and whistles" that are perpetually being added not only to JAWS, but to almost any piece of software you can name that's under active maintenance.   Freedom Scientific (now VFO) has historically been using "upgrade to the new version" as their fix for everything for as long as I've been tutoring JAWS.  What's worse, and I've experienced it more than once, is that there have been instances where the new version breaks existing functionality in specific circumstances and how that escaped testing is beyond me.

The long and the sort of it is that there are now very serious and very good competitors to JAWS that are available at little or no cost, depending on whether they ship with the OS you're using or not.  If I had my druthers the state agency for which I do most of my tutoring would have transitioned to one of those several years ago, but getting any bureaucracy to change is a long, slow proposition.  At the individual level it need not be and for certain alternatives the learning curve is not particularly steep.
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Re: Anyone with a good experience using One note.

 

It is actually not bad at all now on the iPhone, I just wish it were more accessible on the PC with Jaws, here it is also useable, but not as much as a like and with as much speed as I would like.

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Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 5:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Anyone with a good experience using One note.

I tried it about a year ago and found it pretty much unusable.

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I just installed microsoft office 2016 and it comes with one note.
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Re: turning sounds on in office 2010

Mario
 

after Word is running, press alt+f then t for options.
up or down arrow to the advanced category.
shift+tab 15 times to "Provide feedback with sound check box".
press the space bar to check it if it isn't already.
then press tab 15 times to, and space bar on the OK button.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Dennis L [mailto:dennisl1982@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:34 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning sounds on in office 2010

How do you enable it through word

Sent from my Android phone using Aqua Mail



On May 18, 2017 10:33:07 AM "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:

oh, I read your original question and the following responses. I think
that event was removed probably thru a monthly office patch. someone
else from a different ML had a similar question like yours.

BTW, researching how to enable feedback with sound articles mention to
use Word or Excel, and to enable feedback with sound, but it may not
matter if you did it thru Outlook.
as long as you're getting sound when events happen like when new mail
comes in, you're set.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Dennis L [mailto:dennisl1982@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:11 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning sounds on in office 2010

I have them installed

Sent from my Android phone using Aqua Mail



On May 18, 2017 9:59:20 AM "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dennis, Bill, and anyone else, do you have the office sounds pack
installed? go to microsoft, search for it, and install it. it takes a
work around to install them, because it's not as simple as running an
executable. reason being, MS did not properly update the extraction
process in the executable to recognize that office 2010 has been installed.
the easier way is to simply use 7zip to extract the contents of the
sound pack executable, go to the folder that holds the extracted files,
and run the MSI file. I suppose you could use any other utility that can
extract from an executable but I haven't tried anything else.

the sounds should be installed before activating their use in office
2010 programs.

hth

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:14 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning sounds on in office 2010

Mine doesn't make a sound when opened either.



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning sounds on in office 2010



That just plays a sound if a message is received it use to make a sound when
opened now it doesn't



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning sounds on in office 2010



1. Open Outlook.

2. Type F followed by T for Options.

3. You should be on General options when Options opens.

4. Arrow down to Mail.

5. TAB nine times. There should be a button which says Play a Sound
checkbox. If it is unchecked, press SPACE to check it.

6. TAB to the OK button, and press ENTER.



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning sounds on in office 2010



Hi, how do you turn sounds on in office 2010?


Re: turning sounds on in office 2010

Mario
 

after Word is running, press alt+f then t for options.
up or down arrow to the advanced category.
shift+tab 15 times to "Provide feedback with sound check box".
press the space bar to check it if it isn't already.
then press tab 15 times to, and space bar on the OK button.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Dennis L [mailto:dennisl1982@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:34 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning sounds on in office 2010

How do you enable it through word

Sent from my Android phone using Aqua Mail



On May 18, 2017 10:33:07 AM "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:

oh, I read your original question and the following responses. I think
that event was removed probably thru a monthly office patch. someone
else from a different ML had a similar question like yours.

BTW, researching how to enable feedback with sound articles mention to
use Word or Excel, and to enable feedback with sound, but it may not
matter if you did it thru Outlook.
as long as you're getting sound when events happen like when new mail
comes in, you're set.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Dennis L [mailto:dennisl1982@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:11 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning sounds on in office 2010

I have them installed

Sent from my Android phone using Aqua Mail



On May 18, 2017 9:59:20 AM "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dennis, Bill, and anyone else, do you have the office sounds pack
installed? go to microsoft, search for it, and install it. it takes a
work around to install them, because it's not as simple as running an
executable. reason being, MS did not properly update the extraction
process in the executable to recognize that office 2010 has been installed.
the easier way is to simply use 7zip to extract the contents of the
sound pack executable, go to the folder that holds the extracted files,
and run the MSI file. I suppose you could use any other utility that can
extract from an executable but I haven't tried anything else.

the sounds should be installed before activating their use in office
2010 programs.

hth

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:14 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning sounds on in office 2010

Mine doesn't make a sound when opened either.



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning sounds on in office 2010



That just plays a sound if a message is received it use to make a sound when
opened now it doesn't



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning sounds on in office 2010



1. Open Outlook.

2. Type F followed by T for Options.

3. You should be on General options when Options opens.

4. Arrow down to Mail.

5. TAB nine times. There should be a button which says Play a Sound
checkbox. If it is unchecked, press SPACE to check it.

6. TAB to the OK button, and press ENTER.



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning sounds on in office 2010



Hi, how do you turn sounds on in office 2010?


Re: Office 365

Alan Robbins
 

I think we simply need to embrace and work out issues as they arise. I deal with the same thing with JAWS and IOS

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 365

Oh, I understand completely, Mike.

The thing is, though, that Microsoft is increasingly moving toward subscription services like Office 365. So, eventually, systems like Office 2010 are going to become obsolete and no longer supported.

I find myself railing aginst this trend more and more, because of its potentially serious accessibility implications for us, but I'm not quite sure what the best alternative really is at this time.

Will be interesting in the coming years, for sure.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 365

Tom, this is the biggest reason I never signed up for MS 365. I've stayed with Office 2010 because I can use it easly and don't have to worry about newer versions and there lack of accessibility with JAWS.
Just my 1.96 cents worth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 365

Don:

For the most part, I would say that Jaws works reasonably well with Office 365, and particularly with Word and Outlook.

However, I do find that when Office 365 is updated (which turns out to be fairly frequently), certain functions that used to work properly no longer do. One recent example in this regard has been the ability to effectively navigate and edit e-mail groups in Outlook. For some reason, the usual arrow and other key commands don't seem to work as well as they once did.

I'll be interested in the thoughts of others.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Office 365

Does Jaws work well with Microsoft Office 365? Mostly concerned about how well it would work with Word and Outlook.
Thanks


Re: Office 365

Alan Robbins
 

I'm in the same boat, but eventually we will need to shift to a more current version. On a road trip now but contemplating going to Office 365 upon my return. I feel at some point we need to stay current

Al

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:36 AM
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Subject: Re: Office 365

Tom, this is the biggest reason I never signed up for MS 365. I've stayed with Office 2010 because I can use it easly and don't have to worry about newer versions and there lack of accessibility with JAWS.
Just my 1.96 cents worth.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:10 AM
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Don:

For the most part, I would say that Jaws works reasonably well with Office 365, and particularly with Word and Outlook.

However, I do find that when Office 365 is updated (which turns out to be fairly frequently), certain functions that used to work properly no longer do. One recent example in this regard has been the ability to effectively navigate and edit e-mail groups in Outlook. For some reason, the usual arrow and other key commands don't seem to work as well as they once did.

I'll be interested in the thoughts of others.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:04 AM
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Subject: Office 365

Does Jaws work well with Microsoft Office 365? Mostly concerned about how well it would work with Word and Outlook.
Thanks


Re: The answer is not to tell us that buying a new version of JAWS is the proper solution.

 

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Re: Office 365

Tom Behler
 

Oh, I understand completely, Mike.

The thing is, though, that Microsoft is increasingly moving toward subscription services like Office 365. So, eventually, systems like Office 2010 are going to become obsolete and no longer supported.

I find myself railing aginst this trend more and more, because of its potentially serious accessibility implications for us, but I'm not quite sure what the best alternative really is at this time.

Will be interesting in the coming years, for sure.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 365

Tom, this is the biggest reason I never signed up for MS 365. I've stayed with Office 2010 because I can use it easly and don't have to worry about newer versions and there lack of accessibility with JAWS.
Just my 1.96 cents worth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 365

Don:

For the most part, I would say that Jaws works reasonably well with Office 365, and particularly with Word and Outlook.

However, I do find that when Office 365 is updated (which turns out to be fairly frequently), certain functions that used to work properly no longer do. One recent example in this regard has been the ability to effectively navigate and edit e-mail groups in Outlook. For some reason, the usual arrow and other key commands don't seem to work as well as they once did.

I'll be interested in the thoughts of others.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Office 365

Does Jaws work well with Microsoft Office 365? Mostly concerned about how well it would work with Word and Outlook.
Thanks