Date   

FIXED Re: forwarding a thunderbird question for another Window Eyes userreading mail as non threaded

Brenda <bjnite@...>
 

Hi Melissa, Randy and List,

I took randy's advice and called VFO. Keith checked things out and then did a repair or something like that of my jaws installation. After a restart, the TB thread issue was resolved but things were still a little weird, so I did a complete shut down and things seem to be better. I think a few more issues were fixed because now all items in my system tray are read whereas before only a couple items were read.

I did n't realize I needed to go to the VFO page to download the small update, but I will try to remember for next time. Although, calling VFO did the trick.

Hope this helps others who were in the same situation as me.

Now, I'm taking the rest of the evening off from learning Jaws.

Brenda

On 5/17/2017 4:57 PM, Melissa Stott wrote:
The last small update for Jaws is not in the updates. You will have to go to the website to download it.
Melissa
From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: forwarding a thunderbird question for another Window Eyes userreading mail as non threaded
Just downloading the installer from VFO wont do it. You have to check
for updates within Jaws. Bring up jaws then go to help then click check
for updates. I had this happen just last week, I had to do a reinstall
of windows and after reinstalling jaws the TB issue returned until I ran
the update utility after it updated Jaws the problem was fixed...
On 5/16/2017 10:09 PM, Brenda wrote:
Hi List,

I do have the latest version of Jaws, I just checked, and if I don't
use the threaded view jaws does not reat the message list.


Using windows 7/64 with latest Jaws and TB.


Is there another setting I'm missing?


Thanks for any help.

Brenda


On 5/16/2017 11:24 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
This is a bug in the new version of TB. you have to have the latest
version of jaws to fix it. Or run an older version of TB and turn off
updates.
On 5/16/2017 6:32 PM, Dennis L wrote:

Hello List,

I'm trying to transition to Jaws starting with emailing which I am
getting a lot of experience on lately.

I find with Jaws I have to view messages as threaded which I don't

like. Is there a way to read messages as unthreaded. Jaws doesn't
seem

to read the titles unless threaded. Hoping there is a setting to be

changed.





Re: Mouse Echo Layer

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Mouse Echo is only in JAWS 18.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 7:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

like Ted, I'm using JAWS 16 and insert+spacebar e doesn't announce
anything. following up with the choices doesn't make a difference, not
even the windows ding.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:ted.lisle@ky.gov]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 9:07 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo Layer

Interesting, Bill. I tried it a while ago, and it said nothing. Maybe
I should follow up with one of the choices, or look at the help file.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

No, I think it has been in JAWS since at least JAWS 16.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer


Bill, the mouse Echo command is only for JAWS 18, right?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:55 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo Layer

Hi again, Sieghard. One other item I will mention is that under the JAWS
context menu, which I reach by using the keystroke INSERT plus the
letter J, then open basic settings. The first setting,

Tutor messages, announce menu and control help radio button checked. If
you use one of the other settings in this dialogue, you will not get all
the control announcements. This might be the reason for INSERT plus
SPACE BAR, E not echoing correctly.



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi Bill and Joseph,



I am using Jaws 18.0.2740 which is the latest built.

When I press Jaws Key+Spacebar I hear the little tone it makes, then
when I press “e” Jaws simply echos “e”. As I said, if I do “O” it does
correctly say OCR.

I am using intermediate verbocity, but I did consider this already and
changed it to beginner and it makes no difference.

Not sure why it doesn’t properly say what the keystroke is, but as I
said, it’s not a big deal and at this point it’s not worth it for me to
spend more time trying to figure it out especially since pressing any
other key in the sequence does what it is supposed to do and the action
is properly spoken, e.g. on, off, characters, words, lines.

.



Regards,

Sieghard



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Lee
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi,

Or perhaps, what verbosity level are you using?

Cheers,

Joseph



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Which version of JAWS are you running when you encounter this behavior
of JAWS not saying

“Mouse Echo Layer?”



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Thanks Bill, if I follow the Jaws Key+Spacebar and E with one of the
letters you mention Jaws will say on, off, character, word or line, it
just does not say the initial “Mouse Echo Layer”, not sure why that is
because when I do the layered command for OCR it will say “OCR” before I
press any of the secondary commands like d for documents, s for screen
etc. Not a big deal, at least I can turn it on or off and set the echo
to try this out.



Regards,

Sieghard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi, Sieghard. Your JAWS is not working as expected. When I do the command:

INSERT plus SPACE BAR, then the letter E, my JAWS says:

Mouse Echo Layer



It expects one of the following commands:

C for character,

W for word,

L for line,

P for paragraph,

O for on or off,



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi David,



I read about this feature also and have been meaning to try it. However,
while I can find Mouse Echo in the Settings Centre when default settings
are loaded, the layered keystroke Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by E does
not say anything, e.g. it is not like Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by O
which says “OCR” or Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by Shift+H which says
“Speech History Cleared”.

Shouldn’t it say “Mouse Echo On” or “Mouse Echo Off”?



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Moore
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi Bill,

The Mouse echo feature, when it is turned on with the key command you
just said, enables one to use a mouse or the touch pad on your laptop
and JAWS will say what you move the mouse pointer over. It works pretty
well, and it allows you to move the mouse pointer around and here what
you are moving it over so you can use the mouse and click just like a
sighted person. NVDA has had this feature built into it for a long time.
With JAWS, the mouse echo feature does not play any tones like NVDA does
to let you know where the pointer is on the screen, but you can navigate
the screen pretty well with this feature in JAWS. When you are done
using the Mouse echo, just use the same key command Insert+Space bar and
then e to turn it off. I have it set to say words as the mouse moves
around the screen.

Take care!

David Moore

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10



From: Bill White <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo Layer



Can anyone direct me as to where to find more information on what the
Mouse Echo Layer command does, INSERT plus SPACE BAR, then the letter E?



I want to know what it enables, and how to use the feature it enables.



Thank you.



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com















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Re: Mouse Echo Layer

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

It doesn't work until JAWS 18.

Pam


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Mario [mrb620@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

like Ted, I'm using JAWS 16 and insert+spacebar e doesn't announce
anything. following up with the choices doesn't make a difference, not
even the windows ding.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:ted.lisle@ky.gov]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 9:07 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo Layer

Interesting, Bill. I tried it a while ago, and it said nothing. Maybe
I should follow up with one of the choices, or look at the help file.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

No, I think it has been in JAWS since at least JAWS 16.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer


Bill, the mouse Echo command is only for JAWS 18, right?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:55 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo Layer

Hi again, Sieghard. One other item I will mention is that under the JAWS
context menu, which I reach by using the keystroke INSERT plus the
letter J, then open basic settings. The first setting,

Tutor messages, announce menu and control help radio button checked. If
you use one of the other settings in this dialogue, you will not get all
the control announcements. This might be the reason for INSERT plus
SPACE BAR, E not echoing correctly.



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi Bill and Joseph,



I am using Jaws 18.0.2740 which is the latest built.

When I press Jaws Key+Spacebar I hear the little tone it makes, then
when I press “e” Jaws simply echos “e”. As I said, if I do “O” it does
correctly say OCR.

I am using intermediate verbocity, but I did consider this already and
changed it to beginner and it makes no difference.

Not sure why it doesn’t properly say what the keystroke is, but as I
said, it’s not a big deal and at this point it’s not worth it for me to
spend more time trying to figure it out especially since pressing any
other key in the sequence does what it is supposed to do and the action
is properly spoken, e.g. on, off, characters, words, lines.

.



Regards,

Sieghard



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Lee
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi,

Or perhaps, what verbosity level are you using?

Cheers,

Joseph



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Which version of JAWS are you running when you encounter this behavior
of JAWS not saying

“Mouse Echo Layer?”



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Thanks Bill, if I follow the Jaws Key+Spacebar and E with one of the
letters you mention Jaws will say on, off, character, word or line, it
just does not say the initial “Mouse Echo Layer”, not sure why that is
because when I do the layered command for OCR it will say “OCR” before I
press any of the secondary commands like d for documents, s for screen
etc. Not a big deal, at least I can turn it on or off and set the echo
to try this out.



Regards,

Sieghard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi, Sieghard. Your JAWS is not working as expected. When I do the command:

INSERT plus SPACE BAR, then the letter E, my JAWS says:

Mouse Echo Layer



It expects one of the following commands:

C for character,

W for word,

L for line,

P for paragraph,

O for on or off,



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi David,



I read about this feature also and have been meaning to try it. However,
while I can find Mouse Echo in the Settings Centre when default settings
are loaded, the layered keystroke Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by E does
not say anything, e.g. it is not like Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by O
which says “OCR” or Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by Shift+H which says
“Speech History Cleared”.

Shouldn’t it say “Mouse Echo On” or “Mouse Echo Off”?



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Moore
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi Bill,

The Mouse echo feature, when it is turned on with the key command you
just said, enables one to use a mouse or the touch pad on your laptop
and JAWS will say what you move the mouse pointer over. It works pretty
well, and it allows you to move the mouse pointer around and here what
you are moving it over so you can use the mouse and click just like a
sighted person. NVDA has had this feature built into it for a long time.
With JAWS, the mouse echo feature does not play any tones like NVDA does
to let you know where the pointer is on the screen, but you can navigate
the screen pretty well with this feature in JAWS. When you are done
using the Mouse echo, just use the same key command Insert+Space bar and
then e to turn it off. I have it set to say words as the mouse moves
around the screen.

Take care!

David Moore

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10



From: Bill White <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo Layer



Can anyone direct me as to where to find more information on what the
Mouse Echo Layer command does, INSERT plus SPACE BAR, then the letter E?



I want to know what it enables, and how to use the feature it enables.



Thank you.



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com















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Re: turning sounds on in office 2010

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

I have them installed

Sent from my Android phone using Aqua Mail

On May 18, 2017 9:59:20 AM "Mario" <mrb620@...> wrote:

Dennis, Bill, and anyone else, do you have the office sounds pack
installed? go to microsoft, search for it, and install it. it takes a
work around to install them, because it's not as simple as running an
executable. reason being, MS did not properly update the extraction
process in the executable to recognize that office 2010 has been installed.
the easier way is to simply use 7zip to extract the contents of the
sound pack executable, go to the folder that holds the extracted files,
and run the MSI file. I suppose you could use any other utility that can
extract from an executable but I haven't tried anything else.

the sounds should be installed before activating their use in office
2010 programs.

hth

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:14 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning sounds on in office 2010

Mine doesn't make a sound when opened either.

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning sounds on in office 2010

That just plays a sound if a message is received it use to make a sound when
opened now it doesn't

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning sounds on in office 2010

1. Open Outlook.

2. Type F followed by T for Options.

3. You should be on General options when Options opens.

4. Arrow down to Mail.

5. TAB nine times. There should be a button which says Play a Sound
checkbox. If it is unchecked, press SPACE to check it.

6. TAB to the OK button, and press ENTER.

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning sounds on in office 2010

Hi, how do you turn sounds on in office 2010?





Re: Mouse Echo Layer

Mario
 

like Ted, I'm using JAWS 16 and insert+spacebar e doesn't announce
anything. following up with the choices doesn't make a difference, not
even the windows ding.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:ted.lisle@ky.gov]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 9:07 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo Layer

Interesting, Bill. I tried it a while ago, and it said nothing. Maybe
I should follow up with one of the choices, or look at the help file.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

No, I think it has been in JAWS since at least JAWS 16.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer


Bill, the mouse Echo command is only for JAWS 18, right?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:55 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo Layer

Hi again, Sieghard. One other item I will mention is that under the JAWS
context menu, which I reach by using the keystroke INSERT plus the
letter J, then open basic settings. The first setting,

Tutor messages, announce menu and control help radio button checked. If
you use one of the other settings in this dialogue, you will not get all
the control announcements. This might be the reason for INSERT plus
SPACE BAR, E not echoing correctly.



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi Bill and Joseph,



I am using Jaws 18.0.2740 which is the latest built.

When I press Jaws Key+Spacebar I hear the little tone it makes, then
when I press “e” Jaws simply echos “e”. As I said, if I do “O” it does
correctly say OCR.

I am using intermediate verbocity, but I did consider this already and
changed it to beginner and it makes no difference.

Not sure why it doesn’t properly say what the keystroke is, but as I
said, it’s not a big deal and at this point it’s not worth it for me to
spend more time trying to figure it out especially since pressing any
other key in the sequence does what it is supposed to do and the action
is properly spoken, e.g. on, off, characters, words, lines.

.



Regards,

Sieghard



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Lee
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi,

Or perhaps, what verbosity level are you using?

Cheers,

Joseph



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Which version of JAWS are you running when you encounter this behavior
of JAWS not saying

“Mouse Echo Layer?”



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Thanks Bill, if I follow the Jaws Key+Spacebar and E with one of the
letters you mention Jaws will say on, off, character, word or line, it
just does not say the initial “Mouse Echo Layer”, not sure why that is
because when I do the layered command for OCR it will say “OCR” before I
press any of the secondary commands like d for documents, s for screen
etc. Not a big deal, at least I can turn it on or off and set the echo
to try this out.



Regards,

Sieghard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi, Sieghard. Your JAWS is not working as expected. When I do the command:

INSERT plus SPACE BAR, then the letter E, my JAWS says:

Mouse Echo Layer



It expects one of the following commands:

C for character,

W for word,

L for line,

P for paragraph,

O for on or off,



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi David,



I read about this feature also and have been meaning to try it. However,
while I can find Mouse Echo in the Settings Centre when default settings
are loaded, the layered keystroke Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by E does
not say anything, e.g. it is not like Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by O
which says “OCR” or Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by Shift+H which says
“Speech History Cleared”.

Shouldn’t it say “Mouse Echo On” or “Mouse Echo Off”?



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Moore
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi Bill,

The Mouse echo feature, when it is turned on with the key command you
just said, enables one to use a mouse or the touch pad on your laptop
and JAWS will say what you move the mouse pointer over. It works pretty
well, and it allows you to move the mouse pointer around and here what
you are moving it over so you can use the mouse and click just like a
sighted person. NVDA has had this feature built into it for a long time.
With JAWS, the mouse echo feature does not play any tones like NVDA does
to let you know where the pointer is on the screen, but you can navigate
the screen pretty well with this feature in JAWS. When you are done
using the Mouse echo, just use the same key command Insert+Space bar and
then e to turn it off. I have it set to say words as the mouse moves
around the screen.

Take care!

David Moore

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10



From: Bill White <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo Layer



Can anyone direct me as to where to find more information on what the
Mouse Echo Layer command does, INSERT plus SPACE BAR, then the letter E?



I want to know what it enables, and how to use the feature it enables.



Thank you.



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com















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engine 15427 (20170516) __________

The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

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Re: turning sounds on in office 2010

Mario
 

Dennis, Bill, and anyone else, do you have the office sounds pack
installed? go to microsoft, search for it, and install it. it takes a
work around to install them, because it's not as simple as running an
executable. reason being, MS did not properly update the extraction
process in the executable to recognize that office 2010 has been installed.
the easier way is to simply use 7zip to extract the contents of the
sound pack executable, go to the folder that holds the extracted files,
and run the MSI file. I suppose you could use any other utility that can
extract from an executable but I haven't tried anything else.

the sounds should be installed before activating their use in office
2010 programs.

hth

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:14 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning sounds on in office 2010

Mine doesn't make a sound when opened either.



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning sounds on in office 2010



That just plays a sound if a message is received it use to make a sound when
opened now it doesn't



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning sounds on in office 2010



1. Open Outlook.

2. Type F followed by T for Options.

3. You should be on General options when Options opens.

4. Arrow down to Mail.

5. TAB nine times. There should be a button which says Play a Sound
checkbox. If it is unchecked, press SPACE to check it.

6. TAB to the OK button, and press ENTER.



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning sounds on in office 2010



Hi, how do you turn sounds on in office 2010?


Re: Mouse Echo and Mouse Tracking?

 

I asked whether the same things as NVDA mouse tracking was "in the pipeline" for JAWS yesterday and was informed Mouse Echo was introduced with JAWS 18.

The descriptions so far are excellent as far as potential uses.  Another thing it can be good for is getting a "quick and dirty" overview of what's on a page that's far easier and more efficient than tabbing around, going down a links list, etc.  I haven't tried JAWS mouse echo yet on either a regular device or touch screen device, but the potential on a touch screen for "methodical finger search" is just huge.  It essentially mimics what folks are used to with VoiceOver or TalkBack in that what's under your finger (or mouse pointer on a non-touch screen device) is constantly being announced.

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Re: computer repair

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No you may try to use video such as be my eyes on the bios screens!

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: computer repair

 

Hi Guys,

 

I was just wondering if it is all possible if I can connect my laptop to a computer that is need of repair; especially, if I need to get into bios on the non-working computer. I’ve asked/suggested this to Freedom Scientific; however, the feedback was not entirely encouraging. I’m currently an instructor of the JAWS software and a few other adaptive technologies, but my real love is repairing computers. if anyone has any suggestions that will help, I greatly appreciate it.

 

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Re: accessible anti-virus programs

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Is it a unified program?  On 10 I’m told it handles both antispyware and antivirus issues.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: accessible anti-virus programs

 

Windows Defender is available on win 7 also. It is the only anti virus program I use.
On 5/16/2017 8:55 AM, Dennis L wrote:

I’m on windows7

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: accessible anti-virus programs

 

Windows Defender (if you use Windows 10), it’s already part of Windows, free and works just fine.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: accessible anti-virus programs

 

What are accessible anti-virus programs with jaws?

 


Re: Mouse Echo and Mouse Tracking?

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Shannon. Previously, if one came upon a link or icon which would not click with ENTER or CONTROL plus ENTER, or the like, there was no way to use the mouse to navigate to it and activate it. Now, when Mouse echo is turned on, when the mouse is moved, a user can tell what they are navigating over. If you hear what you want to activate, you can click the mouse and activate the link or icon. Previously, this was impossible, because there was no audio indication of where the mouse pointer was.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo and Mouse Tracking?

 

Good morning,

What exactly is the Mouse Echo designed for? If there is a JAWS curser isn’t that the mouse? Does not the JAWS curser read what it lands on? Why would you need another mouse reading feature?

And whatever this does is the same thing as in NVDA  called Mouse Tracking, is that correct?

Thanks shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.

 

Hi,

Already does as part of JAWS 18 via mouse echo.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.

 

Just to satisfy my own curiosity, does anyone know if JAWS has the equivalent of NVDA's mouse tracking feature in the pipeline?  I don't think that Window-Eyes had this, either, but I've used that screen reader very little.

I find the mouse tracking feature particularly invaluable for those using touch screen laptops.
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Re: Mouse Echo Layer

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Yes, Ted, it’s a new feature in JAWS 18.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 5:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Is this a new feature in 18?

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Mine says mouse echo when I press the keystrokes you mentioned, but that is as far as I took it.

Jaws 18 Windows 10 latest builds.

Cheers

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: May 16, 2017 8:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Hi David,

 

I read about this feature also and have been meaning to try it. However, while I can find Mouse Echo in the Settings Centre when default settings are loaded, the layered keystroke Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by E does not say anything, e.g. it is not like Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by O which says “OCR” or Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by Shift+H which says “Speech History Cleared”.

Shouldn’t it say “Mouse Echo On” or “Mouse Echo Off”?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Hi Bill,

The Mouse echo feature, when it is turned on with the key command you just said, enables one to use a mouse or the touch pad on your laptop and JAWS will say what you move the mouse pointer over. It works pretty well, and it allows you to move the mouse pointer around and here what you are moving it over so you can use the mouse and click just like a sighted person. NVDA has had this feature built into it for a long time. With JAWS, the mouse echo feature does not play any tones like NVDA does to let you know where the pointer is on the screen, but you can navigate the screen pretty well with this feature in JAWS. When you are done using the Mouse echo, just use the same key command Insert+Space bar and then e to turn it off. I have it set to say words as the mouse moves around the screen.

Take care!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Can anyone direct me as to where to find more information on what the Mouse Echo Layer command does, INSERT plus SPACE BAR, then the letter E?

 

I want to know what it enables, and how to use the feature it enables.

 

Thank you.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

 


Re: Mouse Echo Layer

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Interesting, Bill. I tried it a while ago, and it said nothing. Maybe I should follow up with one of the choices, or look at the help file.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

No, I think it has been in JAWS since at least JAWS 16.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer


Bill, the mouse Echo command is only for JAWS 18, right?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:55 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo Layer

Hi again, Sieghard. One other item I will mention is that under the JAWS
context menu, which I reach by using the keystroke INSERT plus the
letter J, then open basic settings. The first setting,

Tutor messages, announce menu and control help radio button checked. If
you use one of the other settings in this dialogue, you will not get all
the control announcements. This might be the reason for INSERT plus
SPACE BAR, E not echoing correctly.



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi Bill and Joseph,



I am using Jaws 18.0.2740 which is the latest built.

When I press Jaws Key+Spacebar I hear the little tone it makes, then
when I press “e” Jaws simply echos “e”. As I said, if I do “O” it does
correctly say OCR.

I am using intermediate verbocity, but I did consider this already and
changed it to beginner and it makes no difference.

Not sure why it doesn’t properly say what the keystroke is, but as I
said, it’s not a big deal and at this point it’s not worth it for me to
spend more time trying to figure it out especially since pressing any
other key in the sequence does what it is supposed to do and the action
is properly spoken, e.g. on, off, characters, words, lines.

.



Regards,

Sieghard



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Lee
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi,

Or perhaps, what verbosity level are you using?

Cheers,

Joseph



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Which version of JAWS are you running when you encounter this behavior
of JAWS not saying

“Mouse Echo Layer?”



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Thanks Bill, if I follow the Jaws Key+Spacebar and E with one of the
letters you mention Jaws will say on, off, character, word or line, it
just does not say the initial “Mouse Echo Layer”, not sure why that is
because when I do the layered command for OCR it will say “OCR” before I
press any of the secondary commands like d for documents, s for screen
etc. Not a big deal, at least I can turn it on or off and set the echo
to try this out.



Regards,

Sieghard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi, Sieghard. Your JAWS is not working as expected. When I do the command:

INSERT plus SPACE BAR, then the letter E, my JAWS says:

Mouse Echo Layer



It expects one of the following commands:

C for character,

W for word,

L for line,

P for paragraph,

O for on or off,



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi David,



I read about this feature also and have been meaning to try it. However,
while I can find Mouse Echo in the Settings Centre when default settings
are loaded, the layered keystroke Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by E does
not say anything, e.g. it is not like Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by O
which says “OCR” or Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by Shift+H which says
“Speech History Cleared”.

Shouldn’t it say “Mouse Echo On” or “Mouse Echo Off”?



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Moore
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi Bill,

The Mouse echo feature, when it is turned on with the key command you
just said, enables one to use a mouse or the touch pad on your laptop
and JAWS will say what you move the mouse pointer over. It works pretty
well, and it allows you to move the mouse pointer around and here what
you are moving it over so you can use the mouse and click just like a
sighted person. NVDA has had this feature built into it for a long time.
With JAWS, the mouse echo feature does not play any tones like NVDA does
to let you know where the pointer is on the screen, but you can navigate
the screen pretty well with this feature in JAWS. When you are done
using the Mouse echo, just use the same key command Insert+Space bar and
then e to turn it off. I have it set to say words as the mouse moves
around the screen.

Take care!

David Moore

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Windows 10



From: Bill White <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo Layer



Can anyone direct me as to where to find more information on what the
Mouse Echo Layer command does, INSERT plus SPACE BAR, then the letter E?



I want to know what it enables, and how to use the feature it enables.



Thank you.



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com













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Re: Anyone with a good experience using One note.

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I tried it about a year ago and found it pretty much unusable.

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Re: Mouse Echo and Mouse Tracking?

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Becase there are those with some vision who can enlarge the mouse curser and use a mouse and it now will read what your on

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: May 18, 2017 5:20
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo and Mouse Tracking?

 

Good morning,

What exactly is the Mouse Echo designed for? If there is a JAWS curser isn’t that the mouse? Does not the JAWS curser read what it lands on? Why would you need another mouse reading feature?

And whatever this does is the same thing as in NVDA  called Mouse Tracking, is that correct?

Thanks shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.

 

Hi,

Already does as part of JAWS 18 via mouse echo.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.

 

Just to satisfy my own curiosity, does anyone know if JAWS has the equivalent of NVDA's mouse tracking feature in the pipeline?  I don't think that Window-Eyes had this, either, but I've used that screen reader very little.

I find the mouse tracking feature particularly invaluable for those using touch screen laptops.
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Re: Mouse Echo Layer

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Yes you now have mouse useability in 18

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: May 18, 2017 5:01
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Is this a new feature in 18?

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Mine says mouse echo when I press the keystrokes you mentioned, but that is as far as I took it.

Jaws 18 Windows 10 latest builds.

Cheers

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: May 16, 2017 8:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Hi David,

 

I read about this feature also and have been meaning to try it. However, while I can find Mouse Echo in the Settings Centre when default settings are loaded, the layered keystroke Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by E does not say anything, e.g. it is not like Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by O which says “OCR” or Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by Shift+H which says “Speech History Cleared”.

Shouldn’t it say “Mouse Echo On” or “Mouse Echo Off”?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Hi Bill,

The Mouse echo feature, when it is turned on with the key command you just said, enables one to use a mouse or the touch pad on your laptop and JAWS will say what you move the mouse pointer over. It works pretty well, and it allows you to move the mouse pointer around and here what you are moving it over so you can use the mouse and click just like a sighted person. NVDA has had this feature built into it for a long time. With JAWS, the mouse echo feature does not play any tones like NVDA does to let you know where the pointer is on the screen, but you can navigate the screen pretty well with this feature in JAWS. When you are done using the Mouse echo, just use the same key command Insert+Space bar and then e to turn it off. I have it set to say words as the mouse moves around the screen.

Take care!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Can anyone direct me as to where to find more information on what the Mouse Echo Layer command does, INSERT plus SPACE BAR, then the letter E?

 

I want to know what it enables, and how to use the feature it enables.

 

Thank you.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

 


Mouse Echo and Mouse Tracking?

Shannon
 

Good morning,

What exactly is the Mouse Echo designed for? If there is a JAWS curser isn’t that the mouse? Does not the JAWS curser read what it lands on? Why would you need another mouse reading feature?

And whatever this does is the same thing as in NVDA  called Mouse Tracking, is that correct?

Thanks shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.

 

Hi,

Already does as part of JAWS 18 via mouse echo.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.

 

Just to satisfy my own curiosity, does anyone know if JAWS has the equivalent of NVDA's mouse tracking feature in the pipeline?  I don't think that Window-Eyes had this, either, but I've used that screen reader very little.

I find the mouse tracking feature particularly invaluable for those using touch screen laptops.
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Re: Mouse Echo Layer

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Is this a new feature in 18?

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Mine says mouse echo when I press the keystrokes you mentioned, but that is as far as I took it.

Jaws 18 Windows 10 latest builds.

Cheers

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: May 16, 2017 8:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Hi David,

 

I read about this feature also and have been meaning to try it. However, while I can find Mouse Echo in the Settings Centre when default settings are loaded, the layered keystroke Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by E does not say anything, e.g. it is not like Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by O which says “OCR” or Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by Shift+H which says “Speech History Cleared”.

Shouldn’t it say “Mouse Echo On” or “Mouse Echo Off”?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Hi Bill,

The Mouse echo feature, when it is turned on with the key command you just said, enables one to use a mouse or the touch pad on your laptop and JAWS will say what you move the mouse pointer over. It works pretty well, and it allows you to move the mouse pointer around and here what you are moving it over so you can use the mouse and click just like a sighted person. NVDA has had this feature built into it for a long time. With JAWS, the mouse echo feature does not play any tones like NVDA does to let you know where the pointer is on the screen, but you can navigate the screen pretty well with this feature in JAWS. When you are done using the Mouse echo, just use the same key command Insert+Space bar and then e to turn it off. I have it set to say words as the mouse moves around the screen.

Take care!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Can anyone direct me as to where to find more information on what the Mouse Echo Layer command does, INSERT plus SPACE BAR, then the letter E?

 

I want to know what it enables, and how to use the feature it enables.

 

Thank you.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

 


Re: Putting Keys back the way they were

David Moore
 

Hi,

Here is what you want.

Press Windows+R to open the run dialog. Type the following just like I type it:

jaws18 /default

Press enter and JAWS will come up with all factory defaults. You do not do anything to your settings by doing this. It is a way to start JAWS without your settings. If your version is not 18, just type the JAWS version you have in the phrase I gave you.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Kimber Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Putting Keys back the way they were

 

I'm not sure whether this will help you, but in the settings menu

invoked by jaws key plus V there is an option to return to the last

changed settings. I'm not entirely sure what it does, but it may help

you diagnose which changes messed things up.

 

Kim

 

On 5/16/17, brian albriton <cocanut50@...> wrote:

> There use to be something called change back to factory defaults or

> something like that. We probably haven't seen it since many moons and jaws

> ago.

> Is there an equivalent to that now? I've got some keystroke conflicts and

> can't figure out what I goofed up so I want to go back to the way things

> were before I started messing around.

> All the best, Brian

> Brian Albriton

> iPhone 2136103315

> cocanut50@...

 

 

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Kimberly

 

 

 


Re: standard user and jaws

Dave...
 

No idea. Not sure you've saved your changes, methinks.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "netbat66" <netbat66@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 13:01
Subject: standard user and jaws


why is it that no jaws settings can be changed when running as a standard
user?
i can do this with window eyes.
this is a serious problem for me.
i do not log on as a administrator to block most viruses from installing
themselves
i tried changeing the jaws icon to run as administrator but with this both
jaws
and the ease of access center runs at the same time.
even so i muted all of the function keys and they show there indeed in mute
mode but the still speak.
i can make these changes logged in as administrator and the work fine. but
not
as a standard user.


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Laura Richardson
 

Thank you all very much for your input …… Very helpful and much appreciated.

 

Laura