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Re: Mouse Echo and Mouse Tracking?

 

I asked whether the same things as NVDA mouse tracking was "in the pipeline" for JAWS yesterday and was informed Mouse Echo was introduced with JAWS 18.

The descriptions so far are excellent as far as potential uses.  Another thing it can be good for is getting a "quick and dirty" overview of what's on a page that's far easier and more efficient than tabbing around, going down a links list, etc.  I haven't tried JAWS mouse echo yet on either a regular device or touch screen device, but the potential on a touch screen for "methodical finger search" is just huge.  It essentially mimics what folks are used to with VoiceOver or TalkBack in that what's under your finger (or mouse pointer on a non-touch screen device) is constantly being announced.

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Re: computer repair

Jonas Voll
 

No you may try to use video such as be my eyes on the bios screens!

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of HH. Smith Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: computer repair

 

Hi Guys,

 

I was just wondering if it is all possible if I can connect my laptop to a computer that is need of repair; especially, if I need to get into bios on the non-working computer. I’ve asked/suggested this to Freedom Scientific; however, the feedback was not entirely encouraging. I’m currently an instructor of the JAWS software and a few other adaptive technologies, but my real love is repairing computers. if anyone has any suggestions that will help, I greatly appreciate it.

 

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Re: accessible anti-virus programs

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Is it a unified program?  On 10 I’m told it handles both antispyware and antivirus issues.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: accessible anti-virus programs

 

Windows Defender is available on win 7 also. It is the only anti virus program I use.
On 5/16/2017 8:55 AM, Dennis L wrote:

I’m on windows7

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: accessible anti-virus programs

 

Windows Defender (if you use Windows 10), it’s already part of Windows, free and works just fine.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: accessible anti-virus programs

 

What are accessible anti-virus programs with jaws?

 


Re: Mouse Echo and Mouse Tracking?

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Shannon. Previously, if one came upon a link or icon which would not click with ENTER or CONTROL plus ENTER, or the like, there was no way to use the mouse to navigate to it and activate it. Now, when Mouse echo is turned on, when the mouse is moved, a user can tell what they are navigating over. If you hear what you want to activate, you can click the mouse and activate the link or icon. Previously, this was impossible, because there was no audio indication of where the mouse pointer was.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo and Mouse Tracking?

 

Good morning,

What exactly is the Mouse Echo designed for? If there is a JAWS curser isn’t that the mouse? Does not the JAWS curser read what it lands on? Why would you need another mouse reading feature?

And whatever this does is the same thing as in NVDA  called Mouse Tracking, is that correct?

Thanks shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.

 

Hi,

Already does as part of JAWS 18 via mouse echo.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.

 

Just to satisfy my own curiosity, does anyone know if JAWS has the equivalent of NVDA's mouse tracking feature in the pipeline?  I don't think that Window-Eyes had this, either, but I've used that screen reader very little.

I find the mouse tracking feature particularly invaluable for those using touch screen laptops.
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Re: Mouse Echo Layer

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Yes, Ted, it’s a new feature in JAWS 18.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 5:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Is this a new feature in 18?

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Mine says mouse echo when I press the keystrokes you mentioned, but that is as far as I took it.

Jaws 18 Windows 10 latest builds.

Cheers

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: May 16, 2017 8:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Hi David,

 

I read about this feature also and have been meaning to try it. However, while I can find Mouse Echo in the Settings Centre when default settings are loaded, the layered keystroke Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by E does not say anything, e.g. it is not like Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by O which says “OCR” or Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by Shift+H which says “Speech History Cleared”.

Shouldn’t it say “Mouse Echo On” or “Mouse Echo Off”?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Hi Bill,

The Mouse echo feature, when it is turned on with the key command you just said, enables one to use a mouse or the touch pad on your laptop and JAWS will say what you move the mouse pointer over. It works pretty well, and it allows you to move the mouse pointer around and here what you are moving it over so you can use the mouse and click just like a sighted person. NVDA has had this feature built into it for a long time. With JAWS, the mouse echo feature does not play any tones like NVDA does to let you know where the pointer is on the screen, but you can navigate the screen pretty well with this feature in JAWS. When you are done using the Mouse echo, just use the same key command Insert+Space bar and then e to turn it off. I have it set to say words as the mouse moves around the screen.

Take care!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Can anyone direct me as to where to find more information on what the Mouse Echo Layer command does, INSERT plus SPACE BAR, then the letter E?

 

I want to know what it enables, and how to use the feature it enables.

 

Thank you.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

 


Re: Mouse Echo Layer

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Interesting, Bill. I tried it a while ago, and it said nothing. Maybe I should follow up with one of the choices, or look at the help file.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

No, I think it has been in JAWS since at least JAWS 16.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer


Bill, the mouse Echo command is only for JAWS 18, right?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:55 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo Layer

Hi again, Sieghard. One other item I will mention is that under the JAWS
context menu, which I reach by using the keystroke INSERT plus the
letter J, then open basic settings. The first setting,

Tutor messages, announce menu and control help radio button checked. If
you use one of the other settings in this dialogue, you will not get all
the control announcements. This might be the reason for INSERT plus
SPACE BAR, E not echoing correctly.



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi Bill and Joseph,



I am using Jaws 18.0.2740 which is the latest built.

When I press Jaws Key+Spacebar I hear the little tone it makes, then
when I press “e” Jaws simply echos “e”. As I said, if I do “O” it does
correctly say OCR.

I am using intermediate verbocity, but I did consider this already and
changed it to beginner and it makes no difference.

Not sure why it doesn’t properly say what the keystroke is, but as I
said, it’s not a big deal and at this point it’s not worth it for me to
spend more time trying to figure it out especially since pressing any
other key in the sequence does what it is supposed to do and the action
is properly spoken, e.g. on, off, characters, words, lines.

.



Regards,

Sieghard



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Lee
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi,

Or perhaps, what verbosity level are you using?

Cheers,

Joseph



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Which version of JAWS are you running when you encounter this behavior
of JAWS not saying

“Mouse Echo Layer?”



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Thanks Bill, if I follow the Jaws Key+Spacebar and E with one of the
letters you mention Jaws will say on, off, character, word or line, it
just does not say the initial “Mouse Echo Layer”, not sure why that is
because when I do the layered command for OCR it will say “OCR” before I
press any of the secondary commands like d for documents, s for screen
etc. Not a big deal, at least I can turn it on or off and set the echo
to try this out.



Regards,

Sieghard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi, Sieghard. Your JAWS is not working as expected. When I do the command:

INSERT plus SPACE BAR, then the letter E, my JAWS says:

Mouse Echo Layer



It expects one of the following commands:

C for character,

W for word,

L for line,

P for paragraph,

O for on or off,



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi David,



I read about this feature also and have been meaning to try it. However,
while I can find Mouse Echo in the Settings Centre when default settings
are loaded, the layered keystroke Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by E does
not say anything, e.g. it is not like Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by O
which says “OCR” or Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by Shift+H which says
“Speech History Cleared”.

Shouldn’t it say “Mouse Echo On” or “Mouse Echo Off”?



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Moore
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi Bill,

The Mouse echo feature, when it is turned on with the key command you
just said, enables one to use a mouse or the touch pad on your laptop
and JAWS will say what you move the mouse pointer over. It works pretty
well, and it allows you to move the mouse pointer around and here what
you are moving it over so you can use the mouse and click just like a
sighted person. NVDA has had this feature built into it for a long time.
With JAWS, the mouse echo feature does not play any tones like NVDA does
to let you know where the pointer is on the screen, but you can navigate
the screen pretty well with this feature in JAWS. When you are done
using the Mouse echo, just use the same key command Insert+Space bar and
then e to turn it off. I have it set to say words as the mouse moves
around the screen.

Take care!

David Moore

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Windows 10



From: Bill White <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo Layer



Can anyone direct me as to where to find more information on what the
Mouse Echo Layer command does, INSERT plus SPACE BAR, then the letter E?



I want to know what it enables, and how to use the feature it enables.



Thank you.



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com













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Re: Anyone with a good experience using One note.

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I tried it about a year ago and found it pretty much unusable.

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Re: Mouse Echo and Mouse Tracking?

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Becase there are those with some vision who can enlarge the mouse curser and use a mouse and it now will read what your on

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: May 18, 2017 5:20
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo and Mouse Tracking?

 

Good morning,

What exactly is the Mouse Echo designed for? If there is a JAWS curser isn’t that the mouse? Does not the JAWS curser read what it lands on? Why would you need another mouse reading feature?

And whatever this does is the same thing as in NVDA  called Mouse Tracking, is that correct?

Thanks shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.

 

Hi,

Already does as part of JAWS 18 via mouse echo.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.

 

Just to satisfy my own curiosity, does anyone know if JAWS has the equivalent of NVDA's mouse tracking feature in the pipeline?  I don't think that Window-Eyes had this, either, but I've used that screen reader very little.

I find the mouse tracking feature particularly invaluable for those using touch screen laptops.
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Re: Mouse Echo Layer

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Yes you now have mouse useability in 18

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: May 18, 2017 5:01
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Is this a new feature in 18?

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Mine says mouse echo when I press the keystrokes you mentioned, but that is as far as I took it.

Jaws 18 Windows 10 latest builds.

Cheers

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: May 16, 2017 8:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Hi David,

 

I read about this feature also and have been meaning to try it. However, while I can find Mouse Echo in the Settings Centre when default settings are loaded, the layered keystroke Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by E does not say anything, e.g. it is not like Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by O which says “OCR” or Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by Shift+H which says “Speech History Cleared”.

Shouldn’t it say “Mouse Echo On” or “Mouse Echo Off”?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Hi Bill,

The Mouse echo feature, when it is turned on with the key command you just said, enables one to use a mouse or the touch pad on your laptop and JAWS will say what you move the mouse pointer over. It works pretty well, and it allows you to move the mouse pointer around and here what you are moving it over so you can use the mouse and click just like a sighted person. NVDA has had this feature built into it for a long time. With JAWS, the mouse echo feature does not play any tones like NVDA does to let you know where the pointer is on the screen, but you can navigate the screen pretty well with this feature in JAWS. When you are done using the Mouse echo, just use the same key command Insert+Space bar and then e to turn it off. I have it set to say words as the mouse moves around the screen.

Take care!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Can anyone direct me as to where to find more information on what the Mouse Echo Layer command does, INSERT plus SPACE BAR, then the letter E?

 

I want to know what it enables, and how to use the feature it enables.

 

Thank you.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

 


Mouse Echo and Mouse Tracking?

Shannon
 

Good morning,

What exactly is the Mouse Echo designed for? If there is a JAWS curser isn’t that the mouse? Does not the JAWS curser read what it lands on? Why would you need another mouse reading feature?

And whatever this does is the same thing as in NVDA  called Mouse Tracking, is that correct?

Thanks shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.

 

Hi,

Already does as part of JAWS 18 via mouse echo.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.

 

Just to satisfy my own curiosity, does anyone know if JAWS has the equivalent of NVDA's mouse tracking feature in the pipeline?  I don't think that Window-Eyes had this, either, but I've used that screen reader very little.

I find the mouse tracking feature particularly invaluable for those using touch screen laptops.
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Re: Mouse Echo Layer

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Is this a new feature in 18?

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Mine says mouse echo when I press the keystrokes you mentioned, but that is as far as I took it.

Jaws 18 Windows 10 latest builds.

Cheers

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: May 16, 2017 8:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Hi David,

 

I read about this feature also and have been meaning to try it. However, while I can find Mouse Echo in the Settings Centre when default settings are loaded, the layered keystroke Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by E does not say anything, e.g. it is not like Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by O which says “OCR” or Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by Shift+H which says “Speech History Cleared”.

Shouldn’t it say “Mouse Echo On” or “Mouse Echo Off”?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Hi Bill,

The Mouse echo feature, when it is turned on with the key command you just said, enables one to use a mouse or the touch pad on your laptop and JAWS will say what you move the mouse pointer over. It works pretty well, and it allows you to move the mouse pointer around and here what you are moving it over so you can use the mouse and click just like a sighted person. NVDA has had this feature built into it for a long time. With JAWS, the mouse echo feature does not play any tones like NVDA does to let you know where the pointer is on the screen, but you can navigate the screen pretty well with this feature in JAWS. When you are done using the Mouse echo, just use the same key command Insert+Space bar and then e to turn it off. I have it set to say words as the mouse moves around the screen.

Take care!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo Layer

 

Can anyone direct me as to where to find more information on what the Mouse Echo Layer command does, INSERT plus SPACE BAR, then the letter E?

 

I want to know what it enables, and how to use the feature it enables.

 

Thank you.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

 


Re: Putting Keys back the way they were

David Moore
 

Hi,

Here is what you want.

Press Windows+R to open the run dialog. Type the following just like I type it:

jaws18 /default

Press enter and JAWS will come up with all factory defaults. You do not do anything to your settings by doing this. It is a way to start JAWS without your settings. If your version is not 18, just type the JAWS version you have in the phrase I gave you.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Kimber Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Putting Keys back the way they were

 

I'm not sure whether this will help you, but in the settings menu

invoked by jaws key plus V there is an option to return to the last

changed settings. I'm not entirely sure what it does, but it may help

you diagnose which changes messed things up.

 

Kim

 

On 5/16/17, brian albriton <cocanut50@...> wrote:

> There use to be something called change back to factory defaults or

> something like that. We probably haven't seen it since many moons and jaws

> ago.

> Is there an equivalent to that now? I've got some keystroke conflicts and

> can't figure out what I goofed up so I want to go back to the way things

> were before I started messing around.

> All the best, Brian

> Brian Albriton

> iPhone 2136103315

> cocanut50@...

 

 

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Re: standard user and jaws

Dave...
 

No idea. Not sure you've saved your changes, methinks.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

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From: "netbat66" <netbat66@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 13:01
Subject: standard user and jaws


why is it that no jaws settings can be changed when running as a standard
user?
i can do this with window eyes.
this is a serious problem for me.
i do not log on as a administrator to block most viruses from installing
themselves
i tried changeing the jaws icon to run as administrator but with this both
jaws
and the ease of access center runs at the same time.
even so i muted all of the function keys and they show there indeed in mute
mode but the still speak.
i can make these changes logged in as administrator and the work fine. but
not
as a standard user.


There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.


MS Word 2010/Thank you

Laura Richardson
 

Thank you all very much for your input …… Very helpful and much appreciated.

 

Laura

 


Copying information from 1 computer to another

Ann Byrne
 

One of the programs I use with my student has a non-standard highlight. With a lot of cussing and fussing I was able to reassign the highlight indicator to reference the foreground and background colors of the program so that JAWS spoke the text on the screen. when I put the stinker on a new computer, however, I was unable to locate the text in order to tell JAWS about the colors. How can I copy the information from the old JAWS/computer? I have looked at Explore my Settings, personalized settings, and any number of other clever things, but can't find a sneaky little JAWS file that applies itself to the program I tweaked. Oh, where, oh, where, has that stinkin' highlight reference gone????

Much thanks,

Ann


Re: Hi Joseph and all.

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

It does take a lot of time. I have been using it for 13 years and still don't know a lot, just finally learned from this list how the touch cursor works. I tried it; it did work.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.

Hi Shannon!

Ask away! I really feel for you guys just checking out JAWS for the first time. It has a lot of bells and wistles, but it takes a long time to learn it all LOL!

David Moore

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From: Shannon <mailto:shannon@bartchroofing.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.



Thanks. For that it was actually helpful. And may make all the difference for me. That feature and learning what Ican and can not configure myself will help me figure which direction to go.

Thanks again

Shannon

Sent from my iPhone


On May 17, 2017, at 4:32 PM, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com <mailto:jesusloves1966@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,

If you have JAWS version 15 or above, you have the touch cursor. That cursor can get you to many more controls on a page or in a program than the invisible cursor can. The invisible cursor only works as well as the JAWS cursor, and for me, the JAWS cursor does not work at all on many web pages or in many programs. The touch cursor is like using your finger on a touch screen to navigate. You do not even need a touch screen on your device for this to work. Just press shift+numpad plus to turn it on and press the numpad plus twice to go back to the PC cursor. On a laptop, press shift+caps lock+semicolon to turn it on, and press caps lock+semicolon twice to turn it off. You go back to the PC cursor when turned off. This touch cursor in JAWS, allows you to navigate apps, just like you would with your finger. When on, just press your arrow keys. Right arrow is like swiping right for example. This is how you can use your keyboard with JAWS to navigate many environments, not just apps. I want you all to know that if you are switching to JAWS.

David Moore

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From: Joseph Lee <mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.



Hi,

Old days as in early 2010’s (shows what happens if I don’t keep up with certain details of screen readers from time to time…). Perhaps I didn’t think of that as I was too used to touch cursor, UWP and what not these days…

Cheers,

Joseph



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.



Old days? Far as I know it still exists. LOL



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: May-17-17 5:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Hi Joseph and all.

Hi,

Ah yes, forgot about that from the old days…

Cheers,

Joseph



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Hi Joseph and all.





There’s a sixth cursor for JAWS, and that’s the invisible cursor. It’s used to read info on the screen without having to move other cursors.



Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin Minor and the amazing Jilly, Lexington, KY


Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Hi,

For JAWS to do OCR on a PDF document, press Insert+Space bar, then press the two letters O D.

David Moore

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From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns



What is the JAWS command for PDF, please? Thanks.



Bye for now,



Carolyn





-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On

Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:39 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns



I'm still using 16 (which may reduce the value of my input),

and have used it on 2010, 2013, and 2016. The JAWS cursors

function like mouse buttons, and allow you to go outside

the typing area, where angels sometimes fear to tread.





As for the learning curve, take it as you need it. focus

on the basic tutorial, which will tell you everything you

need to get started. Learn fancy features as you need them.

It's a really slick program with good ergonomics, and runs

with a huge program library





When you need it, you'll love the PDF functionality, which,

when combined with the recent PDF-friendly features in

Office, puts real power on your desktop. Many, if not most,

offices use this versatile format, and it'll probably mean

you will not have to purchase the full-blown Acrobat

program, which will save either you or your employer a

nickel or two.





Ted





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On

Behalf Of Michael Mote

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:59 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns





Hi Shannon! JAWS offers a lot of helpful training materials

that are free. To locate these, navigate to the JAWS Window

by pressing either Alt Tab or Insert plus the letter J.

Insert is also the 0 key on the number pad on a regular

desktop keyboard, provided that your num lock setting is set

to off. Once you are there, press Alt plus the letter H to

bring up the help menu. Then you can use the arrow keys to

find the training option. Press enter to open this menu.

You should land in a table of contents for all of the

training materials. Depending on how JAWS was installed on

your system, you can either select the particular module you

are wanting to read, or download it. You can use the arrow

keys to navigate through the page, and find all of the

choices. I hope this is helpful for you. Good luck! I

know that being a new JAWS user can be very overwhelming at

first. I was there and I haven't forgotten how confusing it

was for me. I urge you to go through these training

modules. They will be very helpful to you. They are guided

as well with audio to listen to, if you don't want to read

the information.





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:01 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns





Good morning,



I am a potential new user of JAWS. I would be one of many

conversions from WindowEyes.



I have downloaded the trial of JAWS 18 and pretty concerned

about what it can and cannot do.



I know that there is a large learning curve I will have to

go through, and that is only one of my concerns.



I have been reading the list for the last few days and a few

things mentioned by others concern me.



I also use here at work Office 2010, Outlook, Word and Excel

all the time.



I saw a mention of excel not working well with JAWS? Is that

true? That would be a deal breaker for me.



I use spread sheets every single day to do my job. I also

use on a daily basis the MS Query feature. Will JAWS handle

the queries?



I make mail merge documents frequently and they tie to the

MS Databases.





Will Jaws work with outlook 2010? I have over 10 different

email profiles set up and I need access to them.



Does JAWS have a way to search the screen for text or

buttons to be clicked by the mouse or a "HotSpot" feature as

WE did/does? I use that feature everyday along with custom

scripts to get access to the time keeping software programs.



The language in the control panel seams so foreign to me. I

can't tell, but it seems as if Jaws acknowledges 4 kinds of

cursers? A virtual curser, a JAWS curser, PC Curser, and

something called Mouse overlay?



Is the Jaws curser the mouse? What is the Mouse overlay? Can

I read the screen with the mouse?





Since I am new and don't know how it works and how to

configure it I can't tell what I can and can't do.



I can tell that many functions of the accounting program,

and the three programs that are involved in time tracking do

not behave well and most likely are going to require special

custom scripts.



Before I spend a lot of money and time I want to know if

Jaws can even do the little stuff like Office and surfing

the web?



If JAWS doesn't like Office 2010 what version does it like?



Thanks for your time.



Shannon


Re: turning sounds on in office 2010

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Mine doesn’t make a sound when opened either.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning sounds on in office 2010

 

That just plays a sound if a message is received it use to make a sound when opened now it doesn’t

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning sounds on in office 2010

 

1. Open Outlook.

2. Type F followed by T for Options.

3. You should be on General options when Options opens.

4. Arrow down to Mail.

5. TAB nine times. There should be a button which says Play a Sound checkbox. If it is unchecked, press SPACE to check it.

6. TAB to the OK button, and press ENTER.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning sounds on in office 2010

 

Hi, how do you turn sounds on in office 2010?


Re: turning sounds on in office 2010

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

That just plays a sound if a message is received it use to make a sound when opened now it doesn’t

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: turning sounds on in office 2010

 

1. Open Outlook.

2. Type F followed by T for Options.

3. You should be on General options when Options opens.

4. Arrow down to Mail.

5. TAB nine times. There should be a button which says Play a Sound checkbox. If it is unchecked, press SPACE to check it.

6. TAB to the OK button, and press ENTER.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning sounds on in office 2010

 

Hi, how do you turn sounds on in office 2010?


Re: turning sounds on in office 2010

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

1. Open Outlook.

2. Type F followed by T for Options.

3. You should be on General options when Options opens.

4. Arrow down to Mail.

5. TAB nine times. There should be a button which says Play a Sound checkbox. If it is unchecked, press SPACE to check it.

6. TAB to the OK button, and press ENTER.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: turning sounds on in office 2010

 

Hi, how do you turn sounds on in office 2010?