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Re: Mouse Over

Dave...
 

Mitch,

Agree. Settings Center is more complicated than it needs to be. We've gone
from a menu-based Configuration Manager in JAWS 9 to the tree view in JAWS
10 to the Settings Center in JAWS 12, to the "improved" Options dialog in
JAWS 13.

For those of us who use these settings on a fairly regular basis, it's not
too bad after we get used to the interface, but it sure does make it hard
when they expect a novice to type the correct word in the search field.
Alternative does exist by arrowing down into the tree view, and if you press
F6 in the tree view, you are placed into a series of pages similar to the
old configuration manager style.

Just make sure to F6 out again to the tree view to accept the changes.

Yes, FS is definitely twiddling their thumbs over there,messing with
configuration control and ResearchIt. Wish they would just fix the speech
and sounds manager section -- it's a mess, and the voices do not change
while you're modifying them, so you need to guess, save, and test. A pain.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Mitchell" <mitch@orbitelcom.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 04:10
Subject: Re: Mouse Over


Thank you Matthew for your detailed and instructive steps for solving this
specific problem.
For me, this confirms my observation that the new Settings Center is a
giant step backwards.
I am an average but long time JAWS user and, rhetorically, I ask how any
casual user of the increasingly complex powerhouse of JAWS 13 is to learn
these kind of commands. It's early here so I hope some of you understand my
lament. Mitch
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Horspool" <mhorspool@live.co.uk>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 2:44 AM
Subject: RE: Mouse Over


Hi,

Lois Goodine wrote: "Since I installed Jaws 13, I can't get rid of mouse
over, on websites. I don't use it and am having difficulty getting it
ignored by Jaws."

The most effective way of doing this without interfering with anything
else
is to disable the speaking of OnMouseOvers in the Speech & Sounds Manager
for the currently active scheme. Here's how:

1. Press JAWSKey+6 to invoke the 'Settings Centre'.

2. Press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the 'Default' file.

3. The 'Search' box will have focus. Type "modify" (without the quotes)
and
wait a few seconds.

4. Press DownArrow once. JAWS should announce that you are on 'Modify
Schemes...'

5. Press the SPACEBAR.

6. You will now be presented with a dialog prompting you to select the
scheme you wish to modify. The currently active scheme will be selected
by
default. Press ALT+E for the 'Edit Selected Scheme' button.

7. Press CTRL+TAB eight times to land on the 'HTML Attributes' page.

8. You should be on a list of attributes. Press O twice to move to
'OnMouseOver'.

9. Press ALT+I to move to, and check, the 'Ignore' radio button.

10. Press ENTER four times to confirm your changes, answering 'Yes' to any
dialog boxes which appear.

11. Press ALT+F4 to exit the 'Settings Centre'.

12. You should be asked if you wish to save your changes - answer 'Yes'.

Hope this helps,
Matthew


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Re: Mouse Over

Matthew Horspool <mhorspool@...>
 

Hi Adrian,

The 'Indicate Element Attribute' checkbox silences all HTML attributes
listed in the Speech & Sounds Manager, HTML Attributes tab. Until recently
this was basically OnMouseOver, Clickable and long descriptions for
graphics, so no, you probably wouldn't have noticed much loss of
functionality.

Newer versions of JAWS (sorry can't give a specific version number) have
started to introduce support for WAI ARIA, which has to do with more complex
web apps. This introduces a number of other attributes which indicate, for
example, whether a control has a pop-up menu associated with it, or whether
you are required to enter text into an edit box. Disabling the 'Indicate
Element Attribute' checkbox will also silence some of this new WAI ARIA
information. Not all sites use this type of mark-up yet, so you still might
not notice much difference at this stage, but we'll start to see more of it
as HTML 5 and other interactive technologies evolve.

Matthew

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: 13 November 2011 13:11
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Mouse Over

Mitch,

The method Matthew and Soronel recommend has the virtue of enabling a user
to specify only mouseover as the element to be ignored. The method I posted
silences a range of so-called elements. However, I have worked for years
with mouseover switched off in this latter method and haven't noticed any
other loss of JAWS function. I'd be interested if anyone could post
important elements, or attributes, that I lose this way.

The method Matthew nicely explains is indeed complicated, but I'd keep two
points in mind. First, you couldn't target mouseover alone before FS
introduced the speech and sounds manager. Second, FS firmly believes that
mouseover is information JAWS uses should have, which is why the default is
"on." A third point, perhaps, is that this is a fairly obscure JAWS
function, hence its obscure location within the JAWS menus.


Re: Mouse Over

Matthew Horspool <mhorspool@...>
 

Hi Mich,

I agree that the new 'Settings Centre' is a very different approach and it
will take people some time to learn their way around it. However, this
particular process was equally as complex in earlier versions of JAWS. The
only real difference was that, instead of using the search box to find
'Modify Schemes...', you'd need to press ALT+S for 'Set Options', then M (I
think, anyway) for 'Speech & Sounds Manager'. The rest of the steps would
be near enough identical.

The one thing which I really do value about the new utility is that it
remembers the last few settings that you've changed. This is particularly
useful in a tech support environment where a user has somehow broken their
JAWS, but they don't know how: it's now very easy to check what settings
they might have changed to introduce the problem - and, indeed, if they
haven't changed anything, you can surmise that the problem is most likely
somewhere else in the system.

Matthew

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dave Mitchell
Sent: 13 November 2011 12:11
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Mouse Over

Thank you Matthew for your detailed and instructive steps for solving this
specific problem.
For me, this confirms my observation that the new Settings Center is a
giant step backwards.
I am an average but long time JAWS user and, rhetorically, I ask how any
casual user of the increasingly complex powerhouse of JAWS 13 is to learn
these kind of commands. It's early here so I hope some of you understand my
lament. Mitch


Re: On Mouse over

Adrian Spratt
 

Hi, Lois.

Judging by the time stamp, you were responding here to my message and not
Matthew's. I'm afraid I made two assumptions when I posted my version and
skipped the shift-control-d global and control-s save commands. I'll
re-post my suggestion below with these changes. Remember that Matthew's
approach, while more complicated, is specific for mouseover. The simpler one
I describe is more general, although I haven't found it impedes my JAWS
experience.

1. go to settings center with insert-6.

2. Press shift-control-d to make your changes apply universally.

3. Type Web/HTML and wait for options to appear.

4. Press right arrow, and then arrow down to "Miscellaneous."

5. Press right arrow, then arrow down to "Indicate element attribute." If
checked, uncheck.

6. Press control-s to save and alt-F4 to exit.

I hope this works.

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Lois Goodine
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 1:10 AM
To: jfw
Subject: On Mouse over

Thank you for your reply concerning my problem turning off mouse over in
kjaws 13.
The route you describe doesn't work. The setting center has become kquite
complex and I'm having difficulty finding my way in it although I[m working
on the tutorial on it. I'll keep trying. I think I'm not saving my setting
somehow; although the instruction sounded simple enough Lois Goodine.
al413@verizon.net.


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Re: Mouse Over

Adrian Spratt
 

Mitch,

The method Matthew and Soronel recommend has the virtue of enabling a user
to specify only mouseover as the element to be ignored. The method I posted
silences a range of so-called elements. However, I have worked for years
with mouseover switched off in this latter method and haven't noticed any
other loss of JAWS function. I'd be interested if anyone could post
important elements, or attributes, that I lose this way.

The method Matthew nicely explains is indeed complicated, but I'd keep two
points in mind. First, you couldn't target mouseover alone before FS
introduced the speech and sounds manager. Second, FS firmly believes that
mouseover is information JAWS uses should have, which is why the default is
"on." A third point, perhaps, is that this is a fairly obscure JAWS
function, hence its obscure location within the JAWS menus.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dave Mitchell
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 7:11 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Mouse Over

Thank you Matthew for your detailed and instructive steps for solving this
specific problem.
For me, this confirms my observation that the new Settings Center is a
giant step backwards.
I am an average but long time JAWS user and, rhetorically, I ask how any
casual user of the increasingly complex powerhouse of JAWS 13 is to learn
these kind of commands. It's early here so I hope some of you understand my
lament. Mitch
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Horspool" <mhorspool@live.co.uk>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 2:44 AM
Subject: RE: Mouse Over


Hi,

Lois Goodine wrote: "Since I installed Jaws 13, I can't get rid of
mouse over, on websites. I don't use it and am having difficulty
getting it ignored by Jaws."

The most effective way of doing this without interfering with anything
else is to disable the speaking of OnMouseOvers in the Speech & Sounds
Manager for the currently active scheme. Here's how:

1. Press JAWSKey+6 to invoke the 'Settings Centre'.

2. Press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the 'Default' file.

3. The 'Search' box will have focus. Type "modify" (without the
quotes) and wait a few seconds.

4. Press DownArrow once. JAWS should announce that you are on 'Modify
Schemes...'

5. Press the SPACEBAR.

6. You will now be presented with a dialog prompting you to select the
scheme you wish to modify. The currently active scheme will be
selected by default. Press ALT+E for the 'Edit Selected Scheme'
button.

7. Press CTRL+TAB eight times to land on the 'HTML Attributes' page.

8. You should be on a list of attributes. Press O twice to move to
'OnMouseOver'.

9. Press ALT+I to move to, and check, the 'Ignore' radio button.

10. Press ENTER four times to confirm your changes, answering 'Yes' to
any dialog boxes which appear.

11. Press ALT+F4 to exit the 'Settings Centre'.

12. You should be asked if you wish to save your changes - answer 'Yes'.

Hope this helps,
Matthew


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Re: Mouse Over

Dave Mitchell
 

Thank you Matthew for your detailed and instructive steps for solving this specific problem.
For me, this confirms my observation that the new Settings Center is a giant step backwards.
I am an average but long time JAWS user and, rhetorically, I ask how any casual user of the increasingly complex powerhouse of JAWS 13 is to learn these kind of commands. It's early here so I hope some of you understand my lament. Mitch

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Horspool" <mhorspool@live.co.uk>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 2:44 AM
Subject: RE: Mouse Over


Hi,

Lois Goodine wrote: "Since I installed Jaws 13, I can't get rid of mouse
over, on websites. I don't use it and am having difficulty getting it
ignored by Jaws."

The most effective way of doing this without interfering with anything else
is to disable the speaking of OnMouseOvers in the Speech & Sounds Manager
for the currently active scheme. Here's how:

1. Press JAWSKey+6 to invoke the 'Settings Centre'.

2. Press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the 'Default' file.

3. The 'Search' box will have focus. Type "modify" (without the quotes) and
wait a few seconds.

4. Press DownArrow once. JAWS should announce that you are on 'Modify
Schemes...'

5. Press the SPACEBAR.

6. You will now be presented with a dialog prompting you to select the
scheme you wish to modify. The currently active scheme will be selected by
default. Press ALT+E for the 'Edit Selected Scheme' button.

7. Press CTRL+TAB eight times to land on the 'HTML Attributes' page.

8. You should be on a list of attributes. Press O twice to move to
'OnMouseOver'.

9. Press ALT+I to move to, and check, the 'Ignore' radio button.

10. Press ENTER four times to confirm your changes, answering 'Yes' to any
dialog boxes which appear.

11. Press ALT+F4 to exit the 'Settings Centre'.

12. You should be asked if you wish to save your changes - answer 'Yes'.

Hope this helps,
Matthew


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Re: Mouse Over

Matthew Horspool <mhorspool@...>
 

Hi,

Lois Goodine wrote: "Since I installed Jaws 13, I can't get rid of mouse
over, on websites. I don't use it and am having difficulty getting it
ignored by Jaws."

The most effective way of doing this without interfering with anything else
is to disable the speaking of OnMouseOvers in the Speech & Sounds Manager
for the currently active scheme. Here's how:

1. Press JAWSKey+6 to invoke the 'Settings Centre'.

2. Press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the 'Default' file.

3. The 'Search' box will have focus. Type "modify" (without the quotes) and
wait a few seconds.

4. Press DownArrow once. JAWS should announce that you are on 'Modify
Schemes...'

5. Press the SPACEBAR.

6. You will now be presented with a dialog prompting you to select the
scheme you wish to modify. The currently active scheme will be selected by
default. Press ALT+E for the 'Edit Selected Scheme' button.

7. Press CTRL+TAB eight times to land on the 'HTML Attributes' page.

8. You should be on a list of attributes. Press O twice to move to
'OnMouseOver'.

9. Press ALT+I to move to, and check, the 'Ignore' radio button.

10. Press ENTER four times to confirm your changes, answering 'Yes' to any
dialog boxes which appear.

11. Press ALT+F4 to exit the 'Settings Centre'.

12. You should be asked if you wish to save your changes - answer 'Yes'.

Hope this helps,
Matthew


On Mouse over

Lois
 

Thank you for your reply concerning my problem turning off mouse over in kjaws 13.
The route you describe doesn't work. The setting center has become kquite complex and I'm having difficulty finding my way in it although I[m working on the tutorial on it. I'll keep trying. I think I'm not saving my setting somehow; although the instruction sounded simple enough
Lois Goodine.
al413@verizon.net.


Re: Mouse Over

Soronel Haetir
 

There is also specifically an OnMouseOver element in the speech and
cound scheme manager and ignore is one of the options there. I don't
have a website it onmouseovers handy to try it on though.

On 11/12/11, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@adrianspratt.com> wrote:
Lois,

I'll try to replicate the steps I just tested with the JAWS 12 settings
center and hope they still apply in JAWS 13, then I'll copy an old set of
instructions, just in case.

1. go to settings center.

2. Go to Web/HTML.

3. Press right arrow, and then arrow down to "Miscellaneous."

4. Press right arrow, then arrow down to "Indicate element attribute." If
checked, uncheck.

The following instructions that apply to a non-settings center version of
JAWS gave me the clues:

In the configuration manager, press control shift D for the default file.
Press alt S for the set options menu.
Press H for HTML options.
Control shift tab to the misc tab and uncheck the box for indicate element
attribute.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lois Goodine
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 8:45 PM
To: jfw
Subject: Mouse Over

Since I installed Jaws 13, I can't get rid of mouse over, on websites. I
don't use it and am having difficulty getting it ignored by Jaws. I'm trying
to learn my way around the settings center but must not be saving the
setting, or something. If someone can help, It would be much appreciated.
Thank you. Lois Goodine. al413@verizon.net

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Re: Mouse Over

Adrian Spratt
 

Lois,

I'll try to replicate the steps I just tested with the JAWS 12 settings
center and hope they still apply in JAWS 13, then I'll copy an old set of
instructions, just in case.

1. go to settings center.

2. Go to Web/HTML.

3. Press right arrow, and then arrow down to "Miscellaneous."

4. Press right arrow, then arrow down to "Indicate element attribute." If
checked, uncheck.

The following instructions that apply to a non-settings center version of
JAWS gave me the clues:

In the configuration manager, press control shift D for the default file.
Press alt S for the set options menu.
Press H for HTML options.
Control shift tab to the misc tab and uncheck the box for indicate element
attribute.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lois Goodine
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 8:45 PM
To: jfw
Subject: Mouse Over

Since I installed Jaws 13, I can't get rid of mouse over, on websites. I
don't use it and am having difficulty getting it ignored by Jaws. I'm trying
to learn my way around the settings center but must not be saving the
setting, or something. If someone can help, It would be much appreciated.
Thank you. Lois Goodine. al413@verizon.net

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Mouse Over

Lois
 

Since I installed Jaws 13, I can't get rid of mouse over, on websites. I don't use it and am having difficulty getting it ignored by Jaws. I'm trying to learn my way around the settings center but must not be saving the setting, or something. If someone can help, It would be much appreciated.
Thank you.
Lois Goodine.
al413@verizon.net


research it ncAA football scores time out:

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

Hi David I tried it now and it worked. I wonder if it is a problem that the web site was having.
Kenny Peyatt


Re: ncAA scores reserch it time out:

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

It's working here;
Perhaps the web site was having problems?

Did you try more then once?

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On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 4:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: ncAA scores reserch it time out:

Maybe it's halftime? OR the coach has called the team to the sidelines for a
chat?

Seriously, look at your web connection or the version of JAWS you're using.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 13:03
Subject: ncAA scores reserch it time out:


Hi When I press enter on the ncAA research it scores look up in research
it I get a results time out dialog dialog box. What causes this problem?
Kenny Peyatt

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Re: ncAA scores reserch it time out:

Dave...
 

Maybe it's halftime? OR the coach has called the team to the sidelines for a
chat?

Seriously, look at your web connection or the version of JAWS you're using.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

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To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 13:03
Subject: ncAA scores reserch it time out:


Hi When I press enter on the ncAA research it scores look up in research
it I get a results time out dialog dialog box. What causes this problem?
Kenny Peyatt

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ncAA scores reserch it time out:

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

Hi When I press enter on the ncAA research it scores look up in research it I get a results time out dialog dialog box. What causes this problem?
Kenny Peyatt


Re: pdf's with JAWS--is there still a place to e-mail a pdf imageforOCR?

john.falter
 

Alternately your client can try zamzar.com
They convert files from many types, including PDF, to many other types and return the converted file as an email.

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Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: pdf's with JAWS--is there still a place to e-mail a pdf imageforOCR?


I find Omnipro 18 easy to use.
Your client could get it from Amazon for about $100 new or even less as a used previous version.

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 2:14 PM
Subject: RE: pdf's with JAWS--is there still a place to e-mail a pdf image forOCR?


Ann,

Ed mentioned OmniPage, and others alluded to it. Compared to Kurzweil and
Openbook, it is pretty inexpensive. At the company's website, it is listed
at $149, but you can probably get it cheaper via Google. I find the program
both easy to use and quick to convert. It also saves me from dependence on a
third party.

Here's Nuance's description of its OmniPage 18 product:
http://www.nuance.com/company/news-room/press-releases/NC_016236

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 11:55 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: pdf's with JAWS--is there still a place to e-mail a pdf image
for OCR?

The JAWS13 OCR does only a single screen. there used to be a place, maybe
pdf2txt@somewhere, that would convert a pdf to text. I assume even an
image, but I don't know.
At 10:47 AM 11/12/2011, you wrote:
An empty document, of course, means it is a scanned image. You will
need an OCR (optical character recognition) package. JAWS 13,
allegedly, has a light-weight OCR component built in.
I use an off-the-shelf product called OmniPage. I just tell it to
convert the document. One has an option to interpret from a scanner or
from a file.
There is a companion product called PDF Converter which operates as an
Outlook plug-in. It works pretty well.
I know there is something called VizWhiz (sp?) where iPhone users can
get sighted help. I've heard of some people taking a picture of the
computer's screen and sending it to VizWhiz for interpretation. I've
never tried that personally.


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:40 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: pdf's with JAWS--is there still a place to e-mail a pdf image
for OCR?

When JAWS reports "empty document', is there a place to e-mail it for
interpretation?

thanks,

Ann


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Re: sharing documents via facebook.

Amar Jain
 

Hey Dave,
Thanks for pointing that out. If the policy of the list doesn’t allow us to discuss anything except Jaws, then I’ll keep that in mind for future. I wasn’t aware of the same.
But for now, I’ll be highly obliged if any lister can help me out in cracking this problem, though off the list keeping the guidelines of the list in mind.
At the outset, I apologize for posting contrary to the list guidelines; I had no intention of violating the guidelines, I wasn’t aware of this guideline.
Thanks Dave once again for pointing that out.
Regards
Amar Jain.

From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Sharing documents via facebook?

Amar,

Is this a JAWS-related question?

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

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To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 00:06
Subject: Sharing documents via facebook?


Hi All,
I am looking at the possibility of sharing documents via facebook page.
Directly it is not possible, and I have tried using an app called docs.com,
developed by microsoft and facebook.
Though it is allowing me to share and view the document on my wall, but it
is not allowing me to do the same on my facebook page.
Can you advise me what can be the solution / other possibilities for the
same?
Regards
Amar Jain.
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Re: pdf's with JAWS--is there still a place to e-mail a pdf image forOCR?

john.falter
 

I find Omnipro 18 easy to use.
Your client could get it from Amazon for about $100 new or even less as a used previous version.

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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 2:14 PM
Subject: RE: pdf's with JAWS--is there still a place to e-mail a pdf image forOCR?


Ann,

Ed mentioned OmniPage, and others alluded to it. Compared to Kurzweil and
Openbook, it is pretty inexpensive. At the company's website, it is listed
at $149, but you can probably get it cheaper via Google. I find the program
both easy to use and quick to convert. It also saves me from dependence on a
third party.

Here's Nuance's description of its OmniPage 18 product:
http://www.nuance.com/company/news-room/press-releases/NC_016236

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 11:55 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: pdf's with JAWS--is there still a place to e-mail a pdf image
for OCR?

The JAWS13 OCR does only a single screen. there used to be a place, maybe
pdf2txt@somewhere, that would convert a pdf to text. I assume even an
image, but I don't know.
At 10:47 AM 11/12/2011, you wrote:
An empty document, of course, means it is a scanned image. You will
need an OCR (optical character recognition) package. JAWS 13,
allegedly, has a light-weight OCR component built in.
I use an off-the-shelf product called OmniPage. I just tell it to
convert the document. One has an option to interpret from a scanner or
from a file.
There is a companion product called PDF Converter which operates as an
Outlook plug-in. It works pretty well.
I know there is something called VizWhiz (sp?) where iPhone users can
get sighted help. I've heard of some people taking a picture of the
computer's screen and sending it to VizWhiz for interpretation. I've
never tried that personally.


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:40 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: pdf's with JAWS--is there still a place to e-mail a pdf image
for OCR?

When JAWS reports "empty document', is there a place to e-mail it for
interpretation?

thanks,

Ann


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Re: pdf's with JAWS--is there still a place to e-mail a pdf image for OCR?

Ann Byrne
 

Convenient OCR reads the current page, but not the whole document. For myself I use OpenBook, because I have it. My student, however, does not have an OCR program, so I'm looking for alternatives.

At 11:41 AM 11/12/2011, you wrote:
Ann,


Don't have an answer to your question, but have you tried JAWS13, or have a
license for it? The convenient OCR feature sounds like what you need to read
the pages.

However if you need to generate a text file of the document, then you're
back to your original question, since I presume you don't have Openbook or a
similar OCR program on your PC.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 08:40
Subject: pdf's with JAWS--is there still a place to e-mail a pdf image for
OCR?


When JAWS reports "empty document', is there a place to e-mail it for
interpretation?

thanks,

Ann


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Re: Sharing documents via facebook?

Adrian Spratt
 

Amar,

I know you received a discouraging reply earlier, but I'm wondering if you
think the problem is a result of JAWS not providing you the information you
need. Your explanation suggests it isn't, but you might want to elaborate.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Amar Jain
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 3:07 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Sharing documents via facebook?

Hi All,
I am looking at the possibility of sharing documents via facebook page.
Directly it is not possible, and I have tried using an app called docs.com,
developed by microsoft and facebook.
Though it is allowing me to share and view the document on my wall, but it
is not allowing me to do the same on my facebook page.
Can you advise me what can be the solution / other possibilities for the
same?
Regards
Amar Jain.
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