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Virus?

Laura Richardson
 

Is there a way for me to find out if I have a virus without sighted help? …… I use Windows 7, Jaws 15, and MS Word 10.  I would be very grateful if someone could please help.

 

Thank you,

Laura

 

 

 

 


m.facebook.com

Laura Richardson
 

Is anybody having trouble being able to log onto Facebook via m.facebook.com from a laptop or desktop computer?  I’ve done this for several years without a single problem.  When I go to this site it does not give me the option as it always has to type in my user name and password and then press enter on the log in button.  When I go to m.facebook.com now, at the top of the page it says Log In.   When I arrow down it says “log in as *** button” and when I press enter nothing happens.  Could anybody please help?

 

Thank you,

Laura

  


Re: Jaws and Microsoft Publisher

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Shane,

 

A few weeks ago, I tried using Publisher 2007 with JAWS 13 and 15.  I found it totally inaccessible.

 

Best,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shane clark
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 8:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and Microsoft Publisher

 

Hi guys,

I wrote in a few weeks ago, but I don't think I got a clear answer. So I wanted to ask again, does anyone know if Jaws is accessible with Microsoft Publisher? Upon doing a Google research, from what I read so far it's not. But just wanted to ask on the list to be Shore. Thanks, Shane.

--

Thanks, Shane.


Re: Kertana and searching for a file, or for key words in a file

Gerry Ellis <gerry.ellis@...>
 

Hi,

 

Good old DOS provides a way to search for a text string within a file or group of files.

 

Hit Windows and r to bring up a run box then type in cmd and hit enter. Once the DOS box is up, type findstr /? And hit enter to get details.

 

 

 

Take care,

 

Gerry Ellis

 

If you don’t know where you’re going,

How will you know when you get there?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 4:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Kertana and searching for a file, or for key words in a file

 

Everything search can search file contents, but unlike Windows Search the Everything does not index file contents, so searching on file content alone, unless you also combine it with a suspected file name/wildcard, will be painfully slow compared to a straight Everything search.  See:  https://voidtools.com/faq/#does_everything_search_file_contents

Sharon, hit the WinKey then enter "Cortana" sans quotation marks.  You should get the "Cortana & Search" settings returned, probably as the first item.  Once you've gained focus on that then hit enter to open it.   In Version 1607 there is a toggle (checkbox) for "Search Online & include web results" which you will want to toggle off if you wish to avoid having web results in your Windows Cortana searches.

--
Brian

        Presenting the willfully ignorant with facts is the very definition of casting pearls before swine.


Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Big problems after creator's update

Robin Frost
 

Hi,
I heartily endorse this suggestion. My problem wasn’t as dire but it did afflict 2 machines and the people at Microsoft were very thorough, methodical and helpful while getting me sorted even while needing to escalate me to tier 2 engineers. All is sorted by me now and I can once again smile sitting in front of working machines.  I hope they can sort our fellow list member’s situation out equally as efficiently.
Robin
 
 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 12:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Big problems after creator's update
 
Jeff,

         In a situation as complex as this one I would avail myself of the Microsoft Technical Support for Assistive Technology Users, which is free of charge.

         Call (800) 936-5900.
--
Brian

        Presenting the willfully ignorant with facts is the very definition of casting pearls before swine.


Re: Big problems after creator's update

 

Jeff,

         In a situation as complex as this one I would avail myself of the Microsoft Technical Support for Assistive Technology Users, which is free of charge.

         Call (800) 936-5900.
--
Brian

        Presenting the willfully ignorant with facts is the very definition of casting pearls before swine.


Re: Kertana and searching for a file, or for key words in a file

 

Everything search can search file contents, but unlike Windows Search the Everything does not index file contents, so searching on file content alone, unless you also combine it with a suspected file name/wildcard, will be painfully slow compared to a straight Everything search.  See:  https://voidtools.com/faq/#does_everything_search_file_contents

Sharon, hit the WinKey then enter "Cortana" sans quotation marks.  You should get the "Cortana & Search" settings returned, probably as the first item.  Once you've gained focus on that then hit enter to open it.   In Version 1607 there is a toggle (checkbox) for "Search Online & include web results" which you will want to toggle off if you wish to avoid having web results in your Windows Cortana searches.

--
Brian

        Presenting the willfully ignorant with facts is the very definition of casting pearls before swine.


Re: Kertana and searching for a file, or for key words in a file

Tim Ford
 

I have used the Everything search program, and am pretty sure it looks only to the name of files and folders.  I would love to have that option with the Everything program, because it is nicely accessible.  If someone does know how to have the Everything program search text within a file, please let me know!

 

I have found the built-in Windows search box, both Windows 7 and 10, to be quite good at searching the actual content of Word, Excel, Outlook, browser favorites, and probably more.  I have always found what I was looking for.  You tend to get more results than are useful or helpful, but at least the answer is there.  In Windows 10, the automatic sorting of search results by type makes Windows 10 especially useful since you can avoid slogging through a long list of results that you can tell from the title have nothing of interest.

 

Tim Ford

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 8:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Kertana and searching for a file, or for key words in a file

 

I’m running windows 10

Version 1607 ios build 14393.1198.

 

I’ll check out that other program. Can that other program search for key words within files as well?

Do we have to accept Creator?

Sharon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 10:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Kertana and searching for a file, or for key words in a file

 

Sharon,
           
            Cortana is a far more powerful tool than simple Windows Search ever was, and it would take many pages to explain every feature.

            I tend to search primarily on file name, and I far prefer the Everything Search program from voidtools.com for that purpose.  It's much faster than Cortana for file name searches and very light on system resources.

            It's hard to advise you further without knowing what version of Windows 10 you're using.  If you hit WinKey and type "winver" take a look at the version that's returned and post it.  There are settings you can tweak related to Cortana, at least prior to the Creator's Update (which is Version 1703), that can stop the inclusion of web results. 
--
Brian

        Presenting the willfully ignorant with facts is the very definition of casting pearls before swine.


Re: Big problems after creator's update

jeff armstrong <jeffarmstrong1380@...>
 

Brian,
I tried from cmd command line and also from the run dialog.  It said that protection was turned off, this makes me think I might be out of luck.  It would not run the program.  I was using the command, “rstrui.exe” which I found on a google search.  I ran xcopy to back up my personal files while I was in command prompt just in case.  I have a second hard disk that I use for this purpose.  If that protection being turned off means what I think, then there probably aren’t any restore points on the system?  I searched the folder called “windows10upgrade”     in cmd mode and there is a file called “getcurrentrollback” but since file manager doesn’t come up using “windows+E” key stroke, I can’t get to it to try that.  I also cannot open control panel to access the list of updates in “programs” panel item to try a uninstall as directed by microsoft on their site.
 
Jeff Armstrong

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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Big problems after creator's update
 
Are you able to use the WinKey to trigger a search and have it complete successfully?   If so, hit WinKey, search for "Recovery", and select "Recovery Options" from the returned search results.  This should open the Recovery pane of Update & Security settings and this is where the "Go back to an earlier build" (or something similar) button or link is located during the period that this function is supported.  I think that's for something like 10 days after upgrading.

My suspicion is that either there was corruption on your system prior to upgrading or that some "burp" occurred during the upgrade process itself.
--
Brian

        Presenting the willfully ignorant with facts is the very definition of casting pearls before swine.


Re: Kertana and searching for a file, or for key words in a file

Sharon
 

I’m running windows 10

Version 1607 ios build 14393.1198.

 

I’ll check out that other program. Can that other program search for key words within files as well?

Do we have to accept Creator?

Sharon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 10:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Kertana and searching for a file, or for key words in a file

 

Sharon,
           
            Cortana is a far more powerful tool than simple Windows Search ever was, and it would take many pages to explain every feature.

            I tend to search primarily on file name, and I far prefer the Everything Search program from voidtools.com for that purpose.  It's much faster than Cortana for file name searches and very light on system resources.

            It's hard to advise you further without knowing what version of Windows 10 you're using.  If you hit WinKey and type "winver" take a look at the version that's returned and post it.  There are settings you can tweak related to Cortana, at least prior to the Creator's Update (which is Version 1703), that can stop the inclusion of web results. 
--
Brian

        Presenting the willfully ignorant with facts is the very definition of casting pearls before swine.


Re: Kertana and searching for a file, or for key words in a file

 

Sharon,
           
            Cortana is a far more powerful tool than simple Windows Search ever was, and it would take many pages to explain every feature.

            I tend to search primarily on file name, and I far prefer the Everything Search program from voidtools.com for that purpose.  It's much faster than Cortana for file name searches and very light on system resources.

            It's hard to advise you further without knowing what version of Windows 10 you're using.  If you hit WinKey and type "winver" take a look at the version that's returned and post it.  There are settings you can tweak related to Cortana, at least prior to the Creator's Update (which is Version 1703), that can stop the inclusion of web results. 
--
Brian

        Presenting the willfully ignorant with facts is the very definition of casting pearls before swine.


Re: Big problems after creator's update

jeff armstrong <jeffarmstrong1380@...>
 

Thank you, I will check this and get back.
 
Jeff Armstrong

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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 9:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Big problems after creator's update
 
Are you able to use the WinKey to trigger a search and have it complete successfully?   If so, hit WinKey, search for "Recovery", and select "Recovery Options" from the returned search results.  This should open the Recovery pane of Update & Security settings and this is where the "Go back to an earlier build" (or something similar) button or link is located during the period that this function is supported.  I think that's for something like 10 days after upgrading.

My suspicion is that either there was corruption on your system prior to upgrading or that some "burp" occurred during the upgrade process itself.
--
Brian

        Presenting the willfully ignorant with facts is the very definition of casting pearls before swine.


Re: Big problems after creator's update

 

Are you able to use the WinKey to trigger a search and have it complete successfully?   If so, hit WinKey, search for "Recovery", and select "Recovery Options" from the returned search results.  This should open the Recovery pane of Update & Security settings and this is where the "Go back to an earlier build" (or something similar) button or link is located during the period that this function is supported.  I think that's for something like 10 days after upgrading.

My suspicion is that either there was corruption on your system prior to upgrading or that some "burp" occurred during the upgrade process itself.
--
Brian

        Presenting the willfully ignorant with facts is the very definition of casting pearls before swine.


Re: Creating vb macros in object applications

jeff armstrong <jeffarmstrong1380@...>
 

Pablo;
I have done some of these tasks in the past and used the "mr. excel site" which usually comes up when I google my needs where vb modules are concerned. I use an older version of office but I do not drag anything anywhere ever. I usually try to find out how to code for the parameters that dragging may set. I only write these modules for myself so beauty has not been a concern, dragging controls may make for better looking user control objects on the screen, I just don't know.



Jeff Armstrong

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-----Original Message-----
From: Pablo Morales
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 7:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Creating vb macros in object applications

Hi all,
I am trying to figure out how to place a control in an excel sheet when I am developing a vb macro. When we are working on vb, create and place a control is very easy, but I haven't been able to create or insert a control creating a macro in excel.
How a jaws user is able to drag a control to the design area?
Thanks in advance,


Big problems after creator's update

jeff armstrong <jeffarmstrong1380@...>
 

Hello;
 
I updated to creator’s edition? of windows 10 and now most programs error out or just throw me back to the desktop.  The email program seems to work as does internet explorer.  I saw an article that said something about turning off “tablet mode” but I can’t run settings, it just sends me to desktop.  Can someone either instruct me on rolling back, if possible? or possibilities on what I might do to repair the new update or whatever it broke?  Thanks in advance.
Jeff
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Kertana and searching for a file, or for key words in a file

Sharon
 

I used to be able to go into Windows Explorer, and search for a file, and even for key words somewhere on my hard drive even if I didn’t know what file the words were in. When I now go to file explorer, and then to search, it wants to take me to the internet, and it appears that Kertana is somehow in charge. Anyone know how to just simply find a file when I know it’s name, or find key words in a file when I don’t? I may or may not know what folder the file is in. I used to just go to my documents and just start the search. Talk about confused!

Sharon


Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016, Reading messages

Jim Fettgather
 

Hello.

On 2 different PC’s, running Jaws 18 and Outlook 2016, after pressing enter to read a message, Jaws will begin to prematurely read the message, and interrupt itself with, message as 13 links, and either continue to read the message, or start from the beginning.

 

This happens quite consistently, and all panes like the reading pane, preview pane, and any other pane I can disable, I have done so.

This behavior did not occur in Outlook 2013.

Just wondering if anyone is experiencing this disruptive behavior, and if there  is a way to fix this.

I have also tried starting Outlook with all add-ons disable, but the same behavior occurs.

Thanks for any thoughts.

 

 


Re: Getting rid of MS Edge as the default open app

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

OK, I reread your post... I see your point. At the same time I dont care why MS does this I do care that I am forced into a non accessible app...On 5/12/2017 2:55 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Randy,

        You are correct.   Given that what shows up when you initially click on "Get Help" is a Windows Help app, that appears to be using Cortana "under the hood" to do a web search based on what you enter, this result is not surprising.   Anything that Microsoft is keeping inside the new Universal Apps presentation (for lack of a better way of phrasing it) is funneling straight to Cortana, Edge, and Bing.

         The original poster asked about opening PDF files with a program of her choosing, as opposed to Edge, and having links clicked in Outlook open in the web browser of her choice.  Both of these are easily accomplished, and permanently, barring another of the major updates that might change those settings.  Since there has been a huge outcry about resetting those settings that the user can reconfigure without their knowledge it appears that Microsoft is trying to move away from this practice (that they never should have indulged in in the first place).

           My initial statements in this thread are, indeed, correct if one looks at how certain exceptions are actually being produced.  If it involves Cortana, whether explicitly or implicitly, then one is definitely saddled with the Cortana-Edge-Bing thruple.
--
Brian

        Presenting the willfully ignorant with facts is the very definition of casting pearls before swine.



Re: Getting rid of MS Edge as the default open app

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

Sorry I don't understand your issue with what I said... There are links all through the OS that open in edge no matter what your settings... MS has also changed my default search engine from google. to Bing. It is hard to know every instance that this applies too So I was just pointing this out...

On 5/12/2017 2:40 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
go to windows update and click on get more help... It opens in Edge...
On 5/12/2017 1:56 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Randy,

         Then I want the steps to reproduce them.  And this is not because I don't believe you, but because I have not been able to induce what you're describing.
    
          I have never had any search engine "silently changed" to anything with the exception of once during one of the major updates, I think to version 1607, where a bunch of other settings that users can reset got set back to the defaults that Microsoft thought appropriate.   I have expressed my outrage at this practice, or at least not telling people that they need to recheck certain specific settings, repeatedly.

          I just clicked on a link in a Help dialog in MS-Publisher 2010 and it's being presented in Firefox, my default browser.  If I can replicate what you're reporting then I may also be able to figure out how to block it from occurring.  The only thing I've come to accept that I have no control over is what happens with Cortana web search results (always shown in MS-Edge and always produced using Bing Search).
--
Brian

        Presenting the willfully ignorant with facts is the very definition of casting pearls before swine.




Re: Getting rid of MS Edge as the default open app

 

Randy,

        You are correct.   Given that what shows up when you initially click on "Get Help" is a Windows Help app, that appears to be using Cortana "under the hood" to do a web search based on what you enter, this result is not surprising.   Anything that Microsoft is keeping inside the new Universal Apps presentation (for lack of a better way of phrasing it) is funneling straight to Cortana, Edge, and Bing.

         The original poster asked about opening PDF files with a program of her choosing, as opposed to Edge, and having links clicked in Outlook open in the web browser of her choice.  Both of these are easily accomplished, and permanently, barring another of the major updates that might change those settings.  Since there has been a huge outcry about resetting those settings that the user can reconfigure without their knowledge it appears that Microsoft is trying to move away from this practice (that they never should have indulged in in the first place).

           My initial statements in this thread are, indeed, correct if one looks at how certain exceptions are actually being produced.  If it involves Cortana, whether explicitly or implicitly, then one is definitely saddled with the Cortana-Edge-Bing thruple.
--
Brian

        Presenting the willfully ignorant with facts is the very definition of casting pearls before swine.