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Re: Jaws and Microsoft Publisher

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Brian, is it possible to do the heavy lifting in Word, then import the result to Publisher?  I seem to recall that from somewhere.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 1:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and Microsoft Publisher

 

Shane,

          It would be helpful to know what version of JAWS and MS-Publisher you're trying to use together, as this could make a difference.

          In my 10-second testing with Publisher 2010 and JAWS 18 I would say that it is not accessible using JAWS in any meaningful sense of the word accessible.  When I'm tabbing through objects all I get announced is "Tab" with no subsequent announcement of what object is actually selected.  If I select a text box via mouse JAWS will endlessly repeat the first character typed in that text box until I kill speech.

           None of the above may be true if you're using a later version of Publisher or, less likely, a different version of JAWS but I have no way to test that out.  NVDA and Window-Eyes are slightly different, but no better.  I certainly would not be able to make heads nor tails out of what I was doing in Publisher 2010 using any of the previously mentioned screen readers.
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Re: Getting rid of MS Edge as the default open app

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

Brian This is not true. Help links in Win 10 will open in Edge Google chrome has reported the default search engine was silently changed to Bing and asked If I wanted to block any future attempts to silently change my search engine. These are just a couple of real world situations and can be reproduced

On 5/12/2017 11:08 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 11:01 am, Randy Barnett wrote:
Unfortunately windows will open certain links in Edge no matter what you have set your default preferences too... MS will also change your default search engine to bing without your permission or notification...

Windows 10 only uses Bing as the default search engine in MS-Edge, and this can be changed, but will revert to Bing for any searches executed via Cortana as opposed to using the Edge app itself, which will use the search engine you've set.

Windows 10 will only open links that are the result of a web search done via Cortana in MS-Edge.  Other links, such as those you have in e-mail messages, on web pages, etc., will open in whatever browser you have selected as your default web browsing app.  I have tested this less than 4 hours ago with the Windows 10 Mail app and links received in messages.  These all open in Firefox, which I have set as my default browser.

I am running Version 1703, Build 15063.296, under Win10 Home, 64-bit.
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Brian

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Re: Jaws and Microsoft Publisher

Lauren Snyder
 

I tried on 2016 version of Publisher. Unfortunately, the application remains as it always has been: you can type in in a text box if a sighted person places you there. Otherwise, it is not accessible with Jaws.

Sincerely,

Lauren Snyder, Ph.D.  
Sent from my iPhone

On May 12, 2017, at 1:55 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Shane,

          It would be helpful to know what version of JAWS and MS-Publisher you're trying to use together, as this could make a difference.

          In my 10-second testing with Publisher 2010 and JAWS 18 I would say that it is not accessible using JAWS in any meaningful sense of the word accessible.  When I'm tabbing through objects all I get announced is "Tab" with no subsequent announcement of what object is actually selected.  If I select a text box via mouse JAWS will endlessly repeat the first character typed in that text box until I kill speech.

           None of the above may be true if you're using a later version of Publisher or, less likely, a different version of JAWS but I have no way to test that out.  NVDA and Window-Eyes are slightly different, but no better.  I certainly would not be able to make heads nor tails out of what I was doing in Publisher 2010 using any of the previously mentioned screen readers.
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Brian

        Presenting the willfully ignorant with facts is the very definition of casting pearls before swine.


Re: Getting rid of MS Edge as the default open app

 

On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 11:01 am, Randy Barnett wrote:
Unfortunately windows will open certain links in Edge no matter what you have set your default preferences too... MS will also change your default search engine to bing without your permission or notification...

Windows 10 only uses Bing as the default search engine in MS-Edge, and this can be changed, but will revert to Bing for any searches executed via Cortana as opposed to using the Edge app itself, which will use the search engine you've set.

Windows 10 will only open links that are the result of a web search done via Cortana in MS-Edge.  Other links, such as those you have in e-mail messages, on web pages, etc., will open in whatever browser you have selected as your default web browsing app.  I have tested this less than 4 hours ago with the Windows 10 Mail app and links received in messages.  These all open in Firefox, which I have set as my default browser.

I am running Version 1703, Build 15063.296, under Win10 Home, 64-bit.
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Brian

        Presenting the willfully ignorant with facts is the very definition of casting pearls before swine.


Re: Getting rid of MS Edge as the default open app

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

Unfortunately windows will open certain links in Edge no matter what you have set your default preferences too... MS will also change your default search engine to bing without your permission or notification...

On 5/12/2017 6:29 AM, Lauren Snyder wrote:

 

 

Hi:

 

How do I make sure whether I am opening a .pdf, a file attachmnet in mail, that I can choose the program I want the application open in. I don’t know what happened, but when I tried to open an attachment in Outlook, it went automtically to MS Edge. Also, when I clicked on a link, MS edge started instead of my preferred IE.

 

Thank you.

Sincerely,

Lauren Snyder

princessesrule@...

 



Re: Jaws and Microsoft Publisher

 

Shane,

          It would be helpful to know what version of JAWS and MS-Publisher you're trying to use together, as this could make a difference.

          In my 10-second testing with Publisher 2010 and JAWS 18 I would say that it is not accessible using JAWS in any meaningful sense of the word accessible.  When I'm tabbing through objects all I get announced is "Tab" with no subsequent announcement of what object is actually selected.  If I select a text box via mouse JAWS will endlessly repeat the first character typed in that text box until I kill speech.

           None of the above may be true if you're using a later version of Publisher or, less likely, a different version of JAWS but I have no way to test that out.  NVDA and Window-Eyes are slightly different, but no better.  I certainly would not be able to make heads nor tails out of what I was doing in Publisher 2010 using any of the previously mentioned screen readers.
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Brian

        Presenting the willfully ignorant with facts is the very definition of casting pearls before swine.


Jaws and Microsoft Publisher

Shane clark
 

Hi guys,

I wrote in a few weeks ago, but I don't think I got a clear answer. So I wanted to ask again, does anyone know if Jaws is accessible with Microsoft Publisher? Upon doing a Google research, from what I read so far it's not. But just wanted to ask on the list to be Shore. Thanks, Shane.

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Thanks, Shane.


Re: Getting rid of MS Edge as the default open app

 

Lauren,

          To my knowledge you can definitely still set your default apps by file type under Windows 10.  PDF files are not among "the short list" that's shown on the Default Apps settings page directly.  If you hit WinKey and search default apps one of the items that will be returned in the search is the "Choose default apps by file type" dialog.  If you open it and search on PDF you can then select the application you prefer to have used to open PDF files.

           Unless something's changed recently, and it could have, the app you've chosen in the main Default Apps settings for Web Browser is what should be used to open any link except for those that come back from a Cortana Search, which always get opened in MS-Edge.  I have not heard anything along the lines that Microsoft has now forced the Mail App to use MS-Edge regardless of what you've chosen as your default web browser app, so I'd recheck that setting.
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Brian

        Presenting the willfully ignorant with facts is the very definition of casting pearls before swine.


Getting rid of MS Edge as the default open app

Lauren Snyder
 

 

 

Hi:

 

How do I make sure whether I am opening a .pdf, a file attachmnet in mail, that I can choose the program I want the application open in. I don’t know what happened, but when I tried to open an attachment in Outlook, it went automtically to MS Edge. Also, when I clicked on a link, MS edge started instead of my preferred IE.

 

Thank you.

Sincerely,

Lauren Snyder

princessesrule@...

 


Re: interesting blog about accessibility.

 

Hi,

I do need to somewhat withdraw what I said because I tried the latest Dropbox installer today and apparently Dropbox has indeed been working on accessibility and made some good progress.
First of all, the actual install is pretty much happening without any prompts or interactions. After the installation is complete it goes to setup and this is where in the past (I would say as late as last November for sure) the screens were inaccessible, Jaws would read nothing.
Today this was different, I was able to activate the advanced setup button where, if you wish, you can change the default location of your Dropbox folder and then I was able to enter my email, password and 6-digit code from my authenticator app without any issues. Only after that a few more screens came up which Jaws could not read, they had a Next button each and with convenient OCR I found out they simply gave some hints and tips about what you could all do with Dropbox. At the final screen the "Next" button became a "Finish" button and then it was done.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: interesting blog about accessibility.

On 5/10/2017 11:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Very interesting coming from the company which has an installer that is not accessible and where, at best and if you really know what you are doing, you can get it done using Jaws convenient OCR or I guess an unattended installer such as from Ninite.
Also from the company which a couple of months ago release an iOS app update which completely broke the app for Voiceover users, as soon as you opened the app and tapped on files to look at a file the app crashed and booted you out.
Yes, they did fix it somewhat quickly, but it's still funny though because of the installation issue on a PC.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: interesting blog about accessibility.

It would be awesome if all companies thought this way:
https://blogs.dropbox.com/tech/2017/04/creating-a-culture-of-accessibi
lity/





I didnt havbe a issue with the installer.... I thhink v4 installer was not accessib lwe but I downloaded a older one that worked...


Jaws and MSAA?

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

Does anyone know of this issue and if this will fix them?
http://www.dlee.org/mrw/


Re: Firefox navigation

Tim Ford
 

I would also use the insert plus F5 command.  That gives you a vertical JAWS list box that contains any edit box, form field, check box, or button.  I find that, especially if I am having trouble finding an edit box that I think should be there, the Insert f5 list is very handy.  Just typing the letter e also works, but that way you are going from edit box to edit box.

 

If you want just one of these, say just edit boxes or just form fields in a list, press insert plus F3, that brings up a JAWS list of each of the various item types, e.g. buttons only, and you just hit enter on what you want.  That Insert plus F3 list is handy because it gives you a nice reminder list of everything that you can use JAWS to go directly to. 

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 4:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox navigation

 

Hi, Lauren. Usually one can find edit fields in Firefox with the letter E key. The difference is that, once the edit field has been found, you might need to press the SPACE BAR to open the form field.

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Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 3:55 PM

Subject: Firefox navigation

 

 

 

Hi:

 

How do I find edit fields where I can input text in Firefox? I usually use IE, but the web site I want seems to like Firefox better. I am using Windows 10 and Jaws 18.

 

Thanks.

Sincerely,

Lauren Snyder

princessesrule@...

 



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Re: Firefox navigation

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Lauren. Usually one can find edit fields in Firefox with the letter E key. The difference is that, once the edit field has been found, you might need to press the SPACE BAR to open the form field.
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Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 3:55 PM
Subject: Firefox navigation

 

 

Hi:

 

How do I find edit fields where I can input text in Firefox? I usually use IE, but the web site I want seems to like Firefox better. I am using Windows 10 and Jaws 18.

 

Thanks.

Sincerely,

Lauren Snyder

princessesrule@...

 



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Re: interesting blog about accessibility.

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

On 5/10/2017 11:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Very interesting coming from the company which has an installer that is not accessible and where, at best and if you really know what you are doing, you can get it done using Jaws convenient OCR or I guess an unattended installer such as from Ninite.
Also from the company which a couple of months ago release an iOS app update which completely broke the app for Voiceover users, as soon as you opened the app and tapped on files to look at a file the app crashed and booted you out.
Yes, they did fix it somewhat quickly, but it's still funny though because of the installation issue on a PC.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 1:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: interesting blog about accessibility.

It would be awesome if all companies thought this way:
https://blogs.dropbox.com/tech/2017/04/creating-a-culture-of-accessibility/




I didnt havbe a issue with the installer.... I thhink v4 installer was not accessib lwe but I downloaded a older one that worked...


Firefox navigation

Lauren Snyder
 

 

 

Hi:

 

How do I find edit fields where I can input text in Firefox? I usually use IE, but the web site I want seems to like Firefox better. I am using Windows 10 and Jaws 18.

 

Thanks.

Sincerely,

Lauren Snyder

princessesrule@...

 


Re: Jaws Speech Cuts Out in The Beginning, Realtek Problem?

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Make sure Enhanced Effects are unchecked in the setup of your Soundcard.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

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Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 3:20 PM
Subject: Jaws Speech Cuts Out in The Beginning, Realtek Problem?


Jaws speech gets cut out in the beginning after few seconds of silence.
It's almost like the sound card goes to sleep if nothing is playing for couple of seconds, and then chokes the beginning of speech when waking up.
If I play music or Jaws keeps talking without pause, it never gets cut out.
I use Windows 10, and it seems like it's Realtek problem, but does anyone know how to fix it?
Thanks!





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Jaws Speech Cuts Out in The Beginning, Realtek Problem?

James Lee
 

Jaws speech gets cut out in the beginning after few seconds of silence.
It's almost like the sound card goes to sleep if nothing is playing for couple of seconds, and then chokes the beginning of speech when waking up.
If I play music or Jaws keeps talking without pause, it never gets cut out.
I use Windows 10, and it seems like it's Realtek problem, but does anyone know how to fix it?
Thanks!


Re: Voice to Text on PC?

Emmanuel Bassey <dr.emmabassey@...>
 

Thanks, I am grateful

On 12/05/2017, Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@kutakrock.com> wrote:
If absolutely no keyboard interaction is possible then Dragon Naturally
Speaking with the full-blown J-SAY would be my recommendation.



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Bassey
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 4:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Voice to Text on PC?

Hello,
I have a client who is unable to use the keyboard and 'voice to text'
is now the only option.
What type of voice to text software would be good for PCs? Kindly assist.

Emmanuel

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Disability Adviser - Vision Rehabilitation Services Teaching Hospital,
Calabar.




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Re: Voice to Text on PC?

Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@...>
 

If absolutely no keyboard interaction is possible then Dragon Naturally Speaking with the full-blown J-SAY would be my recommendation.

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Subject: Voice to Text on PC?

Hello,
I have a client who is unable to use the keyboard and 'voice to text'
is now the only option.
What type of voice to text software would be good for PCs? Kindly assist.

Emmanuel

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Disability Adviser - Vision Rehabilitation Services Teaching Hospital, Calabar.




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Voice to Text on PC?

Emmanuel Bassey <dr.emmabassey@...>
 

Hello,
I have a client who is unable to use the keyboard and 'voice to text'
is now the only option.
What type of voice to text software would be good for PCs? Kindly assist.

Emmanuel

--
Emmanuel Bassey (MBBCh., Dip. VR, MDPP)
Disability Adviser - Vision Rehabilitation Services
Teaching Hospital, Calabar.