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Re: Continued Jaws Crashing

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

How about if you do the following command, then try to restart JAWS:

 

INSERT plus WINDOWS KEY plus F4, then try to restart JAWS.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 10:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Continued Jaws Crashing

 

Hello, everyone.

 

It seems that I have narrowed the Jaws crashing issue on my current Windows 7 computer down to the following sequence of events.

 

Jaws seems to crash when I exit Microsoft Word while Outlook is also open.  Once this happens, Jaws will stop speaking, and I can’t re-activate Jaws either via the usual Alt Control J shortcut, or the Windows R command.

 

The only way I can re-start Jaws is to do a hard shut-down of the computer.

 

My sighted wife says Jaws looks like it is still up on the screen, but she can’t do anything to re-activate it either, short of manually shutting down the computer.

 

Does anyone have a sequence of steps to get out of this issue?

 

Does anyone know if FS is aware of the problem??

 

I did not have this problem prior to  updateing to Jaws 18.

 

To clarify, I’m using Office 365 here, with Word 2016 and Outlook 2016.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 


Re: Thunderbird best practices?

Maria Campbell
 

You might want to download an older version of TB to keep the list view working as before, till VFO decides to fix the problem now occurring.

I am using an older version myself, not v52.


lucky1inct@...
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all.
On 4/23/2017 10:35 AM, Poppa Bear wrote:

I have a client that I am about to teach JAWS to and he is a long time Thunderbird user. I myself am not. I am about to listen to the Freedom Scientific seminar on JAWS with Thunderbird, but beyond that, a question that I have is, will it be best or most common to try and download scripts for Thunderbird? Also, right now when I am in the list view for the emails, it does not read the email information, I have to tab once to find the sender information and then shift tab back to the list view and arrow down to the next message and do the same to find out sender information. Any tips would be great.

Nate



Re: Thunderbird best practices?

Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...>
 

Thank you, I will give it a try. As of now I changed my view to threaded list view and this is helping. On my threaded list view the latest messages show up at the bottom of the list, can this be changed to have the latest messages show up at the top?

Thanks for the assistance,

Nate


On 4/23/2017 9:14 AM, Maria Campbell wrote:

You may have the message preview pane open, and you need to not have it open.  Pres f8 to close it, then you should hear the information you need for each message as you down arrow from one to the other.


lucky1inct@...
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all.
On 4/23/2017 10:35 AM, Poppa Bear wrote:

I have a client that I am about to teach JAWS to and he is a long time Thunderbird user. I myself am not. I am about to listen to the Freedom Scientific seminar on JAWS with Thunderbird, but beyond that, a question that I have is, will it be best or most common to try and download scripts for Thunderbird? Also, right now when I am in the list view for the emails, it does not read the email information, I have to tab once to find the sender information and then shift tab back to the list view and arrow down to the next message and do the same to find out sender information. Any tips would be great.

Nate




Re: Thunderbird best practices?

Maria Campbell
 

You may have the message preview pane open, and you need to not have it open.  Pres f8 to close it, then you should hear the information you need for each message as you down arrow from one to the other.


lucky1inct@...
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all.
On 4/23/2017 10:35 AM, Poppa Bear wrote:

I have a client that I am about to teach JAWS to and he is a long time Thunderbird user. I myself am not. I am about to listen to the Freedom Scientific seminar on JAWS with Thunderbird, but beyond that, a question that I have is, will it be best or most common to try and download scripts for Thunderbird? Also, right now when I am in the list view for the emails, it does not read the email information, I have to tab once to find the sender information and then shift tab back to the list view and arrow down to the next message and do the same to find out sender information. Any tips would be great.

Nate



Re: Continued Jaws Crashing

George Gray
 

If I may jump in here and say that since I took the latest JAWS
upgrade along with this new/great W10 upgrade Creators Edition(LOL)
JAWS has stopped and sent itself quite a few Error Reports, which it
has not done for years and I am not doing anything different than I
did prior to these recent upgrades.

And, why, oh, why did JAWS dis-continue the only real good thing
they've done for many an upgrade and take away the sound ducking
feature.

Go figure, eh?

On 4/23/17, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, everyone.



It seems that I have narrowed the Jaws crashing issue on my current Windows
7 computer down to the following sequence of events.



Jaws seems to crash when I exit Microsoft Word while Outlook is also open.
Once this happens, Jaws will stop speaking, and I can't re-activate Jaws
either via the usual Alt Control J shortcut, or the Windows R command.



The only way I can re-start Jaws is to do a hard shut-down of the computer.



My sighted wife says Jaws looks like it is still up on the screen, but she
can't do anything to re-activate it either, short of manually shutting down
the computer.



Does anyone have a sequence of steps to get out of this issue?



Does anyone know if FS is aware of the problem??



I did not have this problem prior to updateing to Jaws 18.



To clarify, I'm using Office 365 here, with Word 2016 and Outlook 2016.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan







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Re: Thunderbird best practices?

Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...>
 

Thank you very much. I have gotten that far with opening a message. So, as
of now can one still no longer arrow down in the list view to see the
message sender information? I read something about thread view, does this
change this break? How would I set the list view to thread view? Also, there
are a couple different sets of scripts out there for TB, but one is payed
and I typically like to teach students how to maneuver around with the
native JAWS keystrokes when available.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 8:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Thunderbird best practices?

Nate, when I launch TB, I wait until I hear the sound for incoming messages
that have downloaded into the inbox (about 10 to 30 seconds), then I press
tab twice which lands me on the treelist of folders, of which the inbox is
usually first, then I press tab to review the new email that came, and
pressing the enter key opens it so I can read it with JAWS or NVDA, and once
I'm done, I press the escape key to close it. (I have TB set to open a new
email in a separate window). I am then returned to the list of messages,
back to the one I just red.

to my knowledge, there isn't any third party scripts for JAWS that enhance
the use of TB, but it would be nice if someone would. however, a basic set
has been included with JAWS already. the problem is that there are some
instances where scripting would be helpful, like when using the spell
checker, if a word is detected, the misspelled word is not automatically
red, the JAWS cursor has to be used to find out what it is. additionally, it
would be useful if there was a JAWS keystroke to read the misspelled word in
context so you can decide what the word should be. the keyboard shortcuts
like alt i to ignore, alt r to replace, alt s to send, etc still work, and
you can still press the tab key to and press the space bar on the choice of
action you want to perform.

but since TB now updated to version 52, using the JAWS cursor is no longer
possible. and I suspect there are other instances that have been curtailed
that I don't use or know about.

there are most likely other instances where scripting would be useful to
effectively deal with using TB that I didn't mention or know about.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Poppa Bear [mailto:heavens4real@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, Apr 23, 2017 11:35 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Thunderbird best practices?

I have a client that I am about to teach JAWS to and he is a long time
Thunderbird user. I myself am not. I am about to listen to the Freedom
Scientific seminar on JAWS with Thunderbird, but beyond that, a question
that I have is, will it be best or most common to try and download scripts
for Thunderbird? Also, right now when I am in the list view for the emails,
it does not read the email information, I have to tab once to find the
sender information and then shift tab back to the list view and arrow down
to the next message and do the same to find out sender information. Any tips
would be great.

Nate


Continued Jaws Crashing

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

It seems that I have narrowed the Jaws crashing issue on my current Windows 7 computer down to the following sequence of events.

 

Jaws seems to crash when I exit Microsoft Word while Outlook is also open.  Once this happens, Jaws will stop speaking, and I can’t re-activate Jaws either via the usual Alt Control J shortcut, or the Windows R command.

 

The only way I can re-start Jaws is to do a hard shut-down of the computer.

 

My sighted wife says Jaws looks like it is still up on the screen, but she can’t do anything to re-activate it either, short of manually shutting down the computer.

 

Does anyone have a sequence of steps to get out of this issue?

 

Does anyone know if FS is aware of the problem??

 

I did not have this problem prior to  updateing to Jaws 18.

 

To clarify, I’m using Office 365 here, with Word 2016 and Outlook 2016.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 


Re: Thunderbird best practices?

Mario
 

Nate, when I launch TB, I wait until I hear the sound for incoming
messages that have downloaded into the inbox (about 10 to 30 seconds),
then I press tab twice which lands me on the treelist of folders, of
which the inbox is usually first, then I press tab to review the new
email that came, and pressing the enter key opens it so I can read it
with JAWS or NVDA, and once I'm done, I press the escape key to close
it. (I have TB set to open a new email in a separate window). I am then
returned to the list of messages, back to the one I just red.

to my knowledge, there isn't any third party scripts for JAWS that
enhance the use of TB, but it would be nice if someone would. however, a
basic set has been included with JAWS already. the problem is that there
are some instances where scripting would be helpful, like when using the
spell checker, if a word is detected, the misspelled word is not
automatically red, the JAWS cursor has to be used to find out what it
is. additionally, it would be useful if there was a JAWS keystroke to
read the misspelled word in context so you can decide what the word
should be. the keyboard shortcuts like alt i to ignore, alt r to
replace, alt s to send, etc still work, and you can still press the tab
key to and press the space bar on the choice of action you want to perform.

but since TB now updated to version 52, using the JAWS cursor is no
longer possible. and I suspect there are other instances that have been
curtailed that I don't use or know about.

there are most likely other instances where scripting would be useful to
effectively deal with using TB that I didn't mention or know about.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Poppa Bear [mailto:heavens4real@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, Apr 23, 2017 11:35 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Thunderbird best practices?

I have a client that I am about to teach JAWS to and he is a long time
Thunderbird user. I myself am not. I am about to listen to the Freedom
Scientific seminar on JAWS with Thunderbird, but beyond that, a question
that I have is, will it be best or most common to try and download scripts
for Thunderbird? Also, right now when I am in the list view for the emails,
it does not read the email information, I have to tab once to find the
sender information and then shift tab back to the list view and arrow down
to the next message and do the same to find out sender information. Any tips
would be great.

Nate


Thunderbird best practices?

Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...>
 

I have a client that I am about to teach JAWS to and he is a long time Thunderbird user. I myself am not. I am about to listen to the Freedom Scientific seminar on JAWS with Thunderbird, but beyond that, a question that I have is, will it be best or most common to try and download scripts for Thunderbird? Also, right now when I am in the list view for the emails, it does not read the email information, I have to tab once to find the sender information and then shift tab back to the list view and arrow down to the next message and do the same to find out sender information. Any tips would be great.

Nate


Re: Preventing videos/ads from playing

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 


Re: Preventing videos/ads from playing

Scott Delventhal
 

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 08:57 pm, Randy Barnett wrote:
In IE Go to options then advanced and uncheck everything you dont want to load under the multimedia heading. If you want to play something then you may have to go back and recheck the option you turned off...

 On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 08:57 pm, Randy Barnett wrote:

In IE Go to options then advanced and uncheck everything you dont want to load under the multimedia heading. If you want to play something then you may have to go back and recheck the option you turned off...

 

Bill, yes you are correct, this is what I need:

To block music and other media which appear on some websites when the page is loaded makes it impossible to hear the screen reader’s voice over the other media.

and

Randy, unfortunately this suggestion did not work for me.

S        

    cott


Re: JAWS 18 and Calculator

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

First I used to have to press ca, but since I've used it so
much, it gives me calculator as first choice.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and Calculator

Bill,

Instead of pressing C repeatedly, just press the Windows Key
and immediately start typing the word Calculator. I doubt
you have to type past the first 3 or so letters for it to
come up. For me the first thing that comes up after "c" is
Google Chrome, but as soon as I type the "a" calculator has
focus and I can press enter to start the app.
Also, many keyboards have calculator shortcut keys. I'm
using a Logitech MK710 and it has a calculator key on the
very right at the same height as the Function keys. After
the Print Screen, Scroll lock and Pause keys there is a gap
and then a lone key off to the right and it brings up the
calculator.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and Calculator

I have to press the C key a couple of times to get the
Calculator. First comes Control Panel.
Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 11:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and Calculator

I have JAWS 18, latest update. I also have Windows 10 and
just press the Windows Key and then C - VOILA, up comes
calculator. I use the qwerty numbers and symbols - works
like a charm, only way to go to figure my Visa figures.
They're not on my spread sheet right now.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 1:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 18 and Calculator

I saw a number of posts on this list earlier about the
calculator. Indeed, in Windows 10, it is hidden. With a
little sighted assistance, however, we found it and pinned
it to the task bar, which was a good solution.

And, a huge thanks to the discussion about using the Windows
Key and numbers keys to jump to applications. I had
forgotten about those commands entirely. Now, I use them
all the time. They are fantastic!

Well, I installed JAWS 18 yesterday. ALAS! The calculator
that worked so well in JAWS 17 appears to be completely
broken in JAWS 18 or, if not broken, is implemented so badly
as to be useless.

It is so good to be able to keep old versions of JAWS around
so that when Freedom Scientific screws up, as they did with
calculator, one can go back to a prior version. The
calculator works great in JAWS 17. It seems unusable in
JAWS 18.





I. Edward Marquette

Direct Dial: 816.502.4646

Mobile: 816.812.0088

Google Voice: 408.692.5640

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Kansas City, MO 64108

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Re: JAWS 18 and Calculator

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I guess I have used it so much that all I have to do is
press Windows-C. I just did; it worked again.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 3:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and Calculator

I have to press the C key a couple of times to get the
Calculator. First comes Control Panel.
Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 11:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and Calculator

I have JAWS 18, latest update. I also have Windows 10 and
just press the Windows Key and then C - VOILA, up comes
calculator. I use the qwerty numbers and symbols - works
like a charm, only way to go to figure my Visa figures.
They're not on my spread sheet right now.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 1:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 18 and Calculator

I saw a number of posts on this list earlier about the
calculator. Indeed, in Windows 10, it is hidden. With a
little sighted assistance, however, we found it and pinned
it to the task bar, which was a good solution.

And, a huge thanks to the discussion about using the Windows
Key and numbers keys to jump to applications. I had
forgotten about those commands entirely. Now, I use them
all the time. They are fantastic!

Well, I installed JAWS 18 yesterday. ALAS! The calculator
that worked so well in JAWS 17 appears to be completely
broken in JAWS 18 or, if not broken, is implemented so badly
as to be useless.

It is so good to be able to keep old versions of JAWS around
so that when Freedom Scientific screws up, as they did with
calculator, one can go back to a prior version. The
calculator works great in JAWS 17. It seems unusable in
JAWS 18.





I. Edward Marquette

Direct Dial: 816.502.4646

Mobile: 816.812.0088

Google Voice: 408.692.5640

Facsimile: 816.960.0041

Kutak Rock LLP

2300 Main Street, Suite 800

Kansas City, MO 64108

ed.marquette@kutakrock.com
<mailto:ed.marquette@kutakrock.com>









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Re: JAWS 18 and Calculator

 

Bill,

Instead of pressing C repeatedly, just press the Windows Key and immediately start typing the word Calculator. I doubt you have to type past the first 3 or so letters for it to come up. For me the first thing that comes up after "c" is Google Chrome, but as soon as I type the "a" calculator has focus and I can press enter to start the app.
Also, many keyboards have calculator shortcut keys. I'm using a Logitech MK710 and it has a calculator key on the very right at the same height as the Function keys. After the Print Screen, Scroll lock and Pause keys there is a gap and then a lone key off to the right and it brings up the calculator.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and Calculator

I have to press the C key a couple of times to get the Calculator. First comes Control Panel.
Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 11:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and Calculator

I have JAWS 18, latest update. I also have Windows 10 and just press the Windows Key and then C - VOILA, up comes calculator. I use the qwerty numbers and symbols - works like a charm, only way to go to figure my Visa figures.
They're not on my spread sheet right now.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 1:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 18 and Calculator

I saw a number of posts on this list earlier about the calculator. Indeed, in Windows 10, it is hidden. With a little sighted assistance, however, we found it and pinned it to the task bar, which was a good solution.

And, a huge thanks to the discussion about using the Windows Key and numbers keys to jump to applications. I had forgotten about those commands entirely. Now, I use them all the time. They are fantastic!

Well, I installed JAWS 18 yesterday. ALAS! The calculator that worked so well in JAWS 17 appears to be completely broken in JAWS 18 or, if not broken, is implemented so badly as to be useless.

It is so good to be able to keep old versions of JAWS around so that when Freedom Scientific screws up, as they did with calculator, one can go back to a prior version. The calculator works great in JAWS 17. It seems unusable in JAWS 18.





I. Edward Marquette

Direct Dial: 816.502.4646

Mobile: 816.812.0088

Google Voice: 408.692.5640

Facsimile: 816.960.0041

Kutak Rock LLP

2300 Main Street, Suite 800

Kansas City, MO 64108

ed.marquette@kutakrock.com
<mailto:ed.marquette@kutakrock.com>









________________________________

This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named recipients above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by applicable law. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender at 402-346-6000 and delete this E-mail message.
Thank you.


Re: JAWS 18 and Calculator

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

I have to press the C key a couple of times to get the Calculator. First
comes Control Panel.
Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 11:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and Calculator

I have JAWS 18, latest update. I also have Windows 10 and just press the
Windows Key and then C - VOILA, up comes calculator. I use the qwerty
numbers and symbols - works like a charm, only way to go to figure my Visa
figures.
They're not on my spread sheet right now.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette,
Ed
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 1:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 18 and Calculator

I saw a number of posts on this list earlier about the calculator. Indeed,
in Windows 10, it is hidden. With a little sighted assistance, however, we
found it and pinned it to the task bar, which was a good solution.

And, a huge thanks to the discussion about using the Windows Key and numbers
keys to jump to applications. I had forgotten about those commands
entirely. Now, I use them all the time. They are fantastic!

Well, I installed JAWS 18 yesterday. ALAS! The calculator that worked so
well in JAWS 17 appears to be completely broken in JAWS 18 or, if not
broken, is implemented so badly as to be useless.

It is so good to be able to keep old versions of JAWS around so that when
Freedom Scientific screws up, as they did with calculator, one can go back
to a prior version. The calculator works great in JAWS 17. It seems
unusable in JAWS 18.





I. Edward Marquette

Direct Dial: 816.502.4646

Mobile: 816.812.0088

Google Voice: 408.692.5640

Facsimile: 816.960.0041

Kutak Rock LLP

2300 Main Street, Suite 800

Kansas City, MO 64108

ed.marquette@kutakrock.com
<mailto:ed.marquette@kutakrock.com>









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Re: JAWS 18 and Calculator

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Right now, I see no reason to put Calculator on my Desktop,
since all I have to do is press Windows-C to get it, then
Alt-F4 to get out of it and then I'm right where I was
before getting into Calculator.


Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 1:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and Calculator

That's handy. I know when I just do a search for
calculator, unlike Wordpad, which was immediately available,
my install of Windows 10 sent me to some app store, and I
certainly was not going to buy something that has been free
with windows for well over a decade.

When someone at Tech Support clicked on something she called
a "Windows Box," the calculator became immediately
available.

I suppose I could put Calculator on the desktop, and that's
a good idea, but I'm having so much fun with Windows and the
number keys that I don't use my desktop shortcuts all that
much.

I think I may, indeed, need to repair JAWS on Monday. I
cannot do it myself because I do not have administrative
rights. WHAT A PAIN!

There may indeed be something amiss with my install. It
refuses to recognize my Vocalizer Expressive 2.0 installs,
and I've repaired them several times (I can repair them, but
not JAWS).

With JAWS 18, as installed, the tab keys jump to a whole
range of buttons, including buttons that apparently
represent numbers. I cannot, however, get to an edit box to
enter numbers manually. Again, there are no problems in
JAWS 17.





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 12:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and Calculator



Hi, Edward. I did something a little different with the
calculator. I put Calculator into the search box by pressing
the WinKey. When Calculator came up, I pressed the
Applications key, and arrowed down to "Open File Location".
After pressing ENTER, System32 opened, and I was taken
directly to the calc.exe file within system32. Once there, I
was able to go to the New submenu and create a shortcut on
my desktop. So I don't even need to go to the Task Bar. The
calculator is on my desktop.



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
<mailto:Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 10:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: JAWS 18 and Calculator



I saw a number of posts on this list earlier about the
calculator. Indeed, in Windows 10, it is hidden. With a
little sighted assistance, however, we found it and pinned
it to the task bar, which was a good solution.

And, a huge thanks to the discussion about using the Windows
Key and numbers keys to jump to applications. I had
forgotten about those commands entirely. Now, I use them
all the time. They are fantastic!

Well, I installed JAWS 18 yesterday. ALAS! The calculator
that worked so well in JAWS 17 appears to be completely
broken in JAWS 18 or, if not broken, is implemented so badly
as to be useless.

It is so good to be able to keep old versions of JAWS around
so that when Freedom Scientific screws up, as they did with
calculator, one can go back to a prior version. The
calculator works great in JAWS 17. It seems unusable in
JAWS 18.





I. Edward Marquette

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Re: JAWS 18 and Calculator

Soronel Haetir
 

Just because it is a windows store app does not mean that you have to
purchase it (or even download it). That simply means that it is
written to use a particular set of the .net framework that is portable
between regular computers, phones tablets etc.

On 4/22/17, Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@kutakrock.com> wrote:
That's handy. I know when I just do a search for calculator, unlike
Wordpad, which was immediately available, my install of Windows 10 sent me
to some app store, and I certainly was not going to buy something that has
been free with windows for well over a decade.
When someone at Tech Support clicked on something she called a "Windows
Box," the calculator became immediately available.
I suppose I could put Calculator on the desktop, and that's a good idea, but
I'm having so much fun with Windows and the number keys that I don't use my
desktop shortcuts all that much.
I think I may, indeed, need to repair JAWS on Monday. I cannot do it myself
because I do not have administrative rights. WHAT A PAIN!
There may indeed be something amiss with my install. It refuses to
recognize my Vocalizer Expressive 2.0 installs, and I've repaired them
several times (I can repair them, but not JAWS).
With JAWS 18, as installed, the tab keys jump to a whole range of buttons,
including buttons that apparently represent numbers. I cannot, however, get
to an edit box to enter numbers manually. Again, there are no problems in
JAWS 17.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 12:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and Calculator

Hi, Edward. I did something a little different with the calculator. I put
Calculator into the search box by pressing the WinKey. When Calculator came
up, I pressed the Applications key, and arrowed down to "Open File
Location". After pressing ENTER, System32 opened, and I was taken directly
to the calc.exe file within system32. Once there, I was able to go to the
New submenu and create a shortcut on my desktop. So I don't even need to go
to the Task Bar. The calculator is on my desktop.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com<mailto:Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 10:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: JAWS 18 and Calculator

I saw a number of posts on this list earlier about the calculator. Indeed,
in Windows 10, it is hidden. With a little sighted assistance, however, we
found it and pinned it to the task bar, which was a good solution.
And, a huge thanks to the discussion about using the Windows Key and numbers
keys to jump to applications. I had forgotten about those commands
entirely. Now, I use them all the time. They are fantastic!
Well, I installed JAWS 18 yesterday. ALAS! The calculator that worked so
well in JAWS 17 appears to be completely broken in JAWS 18 or, if not
broken, is implemented so badly as to be useless.
It is so good to be able to keep old versions of JAWS around so that when
Freedom Scientific screws up, as they did with calculator, one can go back
to a prior version. The calculator works great in JAWS 17. It seems
unusable in JAWS 18.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
2300 Main Street, Suite 800
Kansas City, MO 64108
ed.marquette@kutakrock.com<mailto:ed.marquette@kutakrock.com>




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Re: JAWS 18 and Calculator

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I have JAWS 18, latest update. I also have Windows 10 and
just press the Windows Key and then C - VOILA, up comes
calculator. I use the qwerty numbers and symbols - works
like a charm, only way to go to figure my Visa figures.
They're not on my spread sheet right now.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 1:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 18 and Calculator

I saw a number of posts on this list earlier about the
calculator. Indeed, in Windows 10, it is hidden. With a
little sighted assistance, however, we found it and pinned
it to the task bar, which was a good solution.

And, a huge thanks to the discussion about using the Windows
Key and numbers keys to jump to applications. I had
forgotten about those commands entirely. Now, I use them
all the time. They are fantastic!

Well, I installed JAWS 18 yesterday. ALAS! The calculator
that worked so well in JAWS 17 appears to be completely
broken in JAWS 18 or, if not broken, is implemented so badly
as to be useless.

It is so good to be able to keep old versions of JAWS around
so that when Freedom Scientific screws up, as they did with
calculator, one can go back to a prior version. The
calculator works great in JAWS 17. It seems unusable in
JAWS 18.





I. Edward Marquette

Direct Dial: 816.502.4646

Mobile: 816.812.0088

Google Voice: 408.692.5640

Facsimile: 816.960.0041

Kutak Rock LLP

2300 Main Street, Suite 800

Kansas City, MO 64108

ed.marquette@kutakrock.com
<mailto:ed.marquette@kutakrock.com>









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Re: Need To Renew Office 365 Subscription

Tom Behler
 

Thanks, George.

 

I’ll give this a try.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 2:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need To Renew Office 365 Subscription

 

Hold down the sindows key and r to open the run edit box

Type in renew office 365 subscription and hit enter

On that page you will find the info and you will have to log in with hyour 365 user name and password.

 

Then when your logged in it is jst finding your account and following the prompts.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: April 22, 2017 10:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need To Renew Office 365 Subscription

 

Hello, everyone.

 

Last May, I purchased an Office 365 annual subscription, and now, that subscription is coming due for renewal.

 

Does anyone know if there is a Jaws-friendly way to renew this subscription, and if so, can someone send the steps for doing so?

 

I have my user key card, and hopefully all other necessary information.

 

Thanks as always!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 


Re: Need To Renew Office 365 Subscription

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Hold down the sindows key and r to open the run edit box

Type in renew office 365 subscription and hit enter

On that page you will find the info and you will have to log in with hyour 365 user name and password.

 

Then when your logged in it is jst finding your account and following the prompts.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: April 22, 2017 10:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need To Renew Office 365 Subscription

 

Hello, everyone.

 

Last May, I purchased an Office 365 annual subscription, and now, that subscription is coming due for renewal.

 

Does anyone know if there is a Jaws-friendly way to renew this subscription, and if so, can someone send the steps for doing so?

 

I have my user key card, and hopefully all other necessary information.

 

Thanks as always!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan