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Re: Thunderbird best practices?

Mario
 

to change to threaded view, press alt v, s, t. and to make the sort
ascending, it's alt v, s, a.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Poppa Bear [mailto:heavens4real@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, Apr 23, 2017 1:04 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Thunderbird best practices?

Thank you very much. I have gotten that far with opening a message. So, as
of now can one still no longer arrow down in the list view to see the
message sender information? I read something about thread view, does this
change this break? How would I set the list view to thread view? Also, there
are a couple different sets of scripts out there for TB, but one is payed
and I typically like to teach students how to maneuver around with the
native JAWS keystrokes when available.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 8:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Thunderbird best practices?

Nate, when I launch TB, I wait until I hear the sound for incoming messages
that have downloaded into the inbox (about 10 to 30 seconds), then I press
tab twice which lands me on the treelist of folders, of which the inbox is
usually first, then I press tab to review the new email that came, and
pressing the enter key opens it so I can read it with JAWS or NVDA, and once
I'm done, I press the escape key to close it. (I have TB set to open a new
email in a separate window). I am then returned to the list of messages,
back to the one I just red.

to my knowledge, there isn't any third party scripts for JAWS that enhance
the use of TB, but it would be nice if someone would. however, a basic set
has been included with JAWS already. the problem is that there are some
instances where scripting would be helpful, like when using the spell
checker, if a word is detected, the misspelled word is not automatically
red, the JAWS cursor has to be used to find out what it is. additionally, it
would be useful if there was a JAWS keystroke to read the misspelled word in
context so you can decide what the word should be. the keyboard shortcuts
like alt i to ignore, alt r to replace, alt s to send, etc still work, and
you can still press the tab key to and press the space bar on the choice of
action you want to perform.

but since TB now updated to version 52, using the JAWS cursor is no longer
possible. and I suspect there are other instances that have been curtailed
that I don't use or know about.

there are most likely other instances where scripting would be useful to
effectively deal with using TB that I didn't mention or know about.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Poppa Bear [mailto:heavens4real@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, Apr 23, 2017 11:35 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Thunderbird best practices?

I have a client that I am about to teach JAWS to and he is a long time
Thunderbird user. I myself am not. I am about to listen to the Freedom
Scientific seminar on JAWS with Thunderbird, but beyond that, a question
that I have is, will it be best or most common to try and download scripts
for Thunderbird? Also, right now when I am in the list view for the emails,
it does not read the email information, I have to tab once to find the
sender information and then shift tab back to the list view and arrow down
to the next message and do the same to find out sender information. Any tips
would be great.

Nate










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Re: Thunderbird best practices?

Maria Campbell
 

Whew! I'm glad I stopped the upgrade before I got it then.


lucky1inct@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all.

On 4/23/2017 1:08 PM, Mario wrote:
I don't believe downgrading to an earlier version works because I tried
and navigating to the message list still makes JAWS silent.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Maria Campbell [mailto:lucky1inct@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, Apr 23, 2017 1:20 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Thunderbird best practices?

You might want to download an older version of TB to keep the list view
working as before, till VFO decides to fix the problem now occurring.

I am using an older version myself, not v52.


lucky1inct@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in
small things, it does not exist at all.

On 4/23/2017 10:35 AM, Poppa Bear wrote:

I have a client that I am about to teach JAWS to and he is a long time
Thunderbird user. I myself am not. I am about to listen to the Freedom
Scientific seminar on JAWS with Thunderbird, but beyond that, a
question that I have is, will it be best or most common to try and
download scripts for Thunderbird? Also, right now when I am in the
list view for the emails, it does not read the email information, I
have to tab once to find the sender information and then shift tab
back to the list view and arrow down to the next message and do the
same to find out sender information. Any tips would be great.

Nate







Re: Thunderbird best practices?

Mario
 

I don't believe downgrading to an earlier version works because I tried
and navigating to the message list still makes JAWS silent.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Maria Campbell [mailto:lucky1inct@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, Apr 23, 2017 1:20 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Thunderbird best practices?

You might want to download an older version of TB to keep the list view
working as before, till VFO decides to fix the problem now occurring.

I am using an older version myself, not v52.


lucky1inct@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in
small things, it does not exist at all.

On 4/23/2017 10:35 AM, Poppa Bear wrote:

I have a client that I am about to teach JAWS to and he is a long time
Thunderbird user. I myself am not. I am about to listen to the Freedom
Scientific seminar on JAWS with Thunderbird, but beyond that, a
question that I have is, will it be best or most common to try and
download scripts for Thunderbird? Also, right now when I am in the
list view for the emails, it does not read the email information, I
have to tab once to find the sender information and then shift tab
back to the list view and arrow down to the next message and do the
same to find out sender information. Any tips would be great.

Nate


How to use Windows Media Player to read or access music in a folder on an external hard drive

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

Hi,

 

I stumbled across an old folder with lots of ripped cDs in mp3 format.

 

I’d like to check out this folder to see if the sometimes quirkily named files changed the mp3 tags or just were in a database shell pointing to the actual music files. And whether these mp3 files are actually still playable.

 

I have Windows Media Player on my PC and would like to use that as the tool by which I check out this recently rediscovered music folder. I have only limited familiarity with WMP, but have read what JAWS has to say about hot keys by using Insert+F1.

 

Can someone please tell me how to get the mp3 files in the folder to be seen by WMP, and if they should be playable, once selected, using WMP?

 

Thanks in advance, Keith


Re: Continued Jaws Crashing

Mario
 

the reason I heard why the audio ducking was removed from the latest
JAWS 18 was because the Creator Update changed something that allowed
JAWS to provide the audio ducking feature. it might come back, who knows
when.

-------- Original Message --------
From: George Gray [mailto:blindtraveler2@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, Apr 23, 2017 1:10 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Continued Jaws Crashing

If I may jump in here and say that since I took the latest JAWS
upgrade along with this new/great W10 upgrade Creators Edition(LOL)
JAWS has stopped and sent itself quite a few Error Reports, which it
has not done for years and I am not doing anything different than I
did prior to these recent upgrades.

And, why, oh, why did JAWS dis-continue the only real good thing
they've done for many an upgrade and take away the sound ducking
feature.

Go figure, eh?

On 4/23/17, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, everyone.



It seems that I have narrowed the Jaws crashing issue on my current Windows
7 computer down to the following sequence of events.



Jaws seems to crash when I exit Microsoft Word while Outlook is also open.
Once this happens, Jaws will stop speaking, and I can't re-activate Jaws
either via the usual Alt Control J shortcut, or the Windows R command.



The only way I can re-start Jaws is to do a hard shut-down of the computer.



My sighted wife says Jaws looks like it is still up on the screen, but she
can't do anything to re-activate it either, short of manually shutting down
the computer.



Does anyone have a sequence of steps to get out of this issue?



Does anyone know if FS is aware of the problem??



I did not have this problem prior to updateing to Jaws 18.



To clarify, I'm using Office 365 here, with Word 2016 and Outlook 2016.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


Re: Thunderbird best practices?

Maria Campbell
 

Press shift control plus f.


lucky1inct@...
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all.
On 4/23/2017 12:23 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:

I am using it right now and it is not so painful. How does one search for a message?


On 4/23/2017 9:20 AM, Maria Campbell wrote:

You might want to download an older version of TB to keep the list view working as before, till VFO decides to fix the problem now occurring.

I am using an older version myself, not v52.


lucky1inct@...
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all.
On 4/23/2017 10:35 AM, Poppa Bear wrote:

I have a client that I am about to teach JAWS to and he is a long time Thunderbird user. I myself am not. I am about to listen to the Freedom Scientific seminar on JAWS with Thunderbird, but beyond that, a question that I have is, will it be best or most common to try and download scripts for Thunderbird? Also, right now when I am in the list view for the emails, it does not read the email information, I have to tab once to find the sender information and then shift tab back to the list view and arrow down to the next message and do the same to find out sender information. Any tips would be great.

Nate





Re: Thunderbird best practices?

Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...>
 

I am using it right now and it is not so painful. How does one search for a message?


On 4/23/2017 9:20 AM, Maria Campbell wrote:

You might want to download an older version of TB to keep the list view working as before, till VFO decides to fix the problem now occurring.

I am using an older version myself, not v52.


lucky1inct@...
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all.
On 4/23/2017 10:35 AM, Poppa Bear wrote:

I have a client that I am about to teach JAWS to and he is a long time Thunderbird user. I myself am not. I am about to listen to the Freedom Scientific seminar on JAWS with Thunderbird, but beyond that, a question that I have is, will it be best or most common to try and download scripts for Thunderbird? Also, right now when I am in the list view for the emails, it does not read the email information, I have to tab once to find the sender information and then shift tab back to the list view and arrow down to the next message and do the same to find out sender information. Any tips would be great.

Nate




Re: Thunderbird best practices?

Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...>
 

Thanks, I will see what my client has right now and go from there.

Nate


On 4/23/2017 9:20 AM, Maria Campbell wrote:

You might want to download an older version of TB to keep the list view working as before, till VFO decides to fix the problem now occurring.

I am using an older version myself, not v52.


lucky1inct@...
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all.
On 4/23/2017 10:35 AM, Poppa Bear wrote:

I have a client that I am about to teach JAWS to and he is a long time Thunderbird user. I myself am not. I am about to listen to the Freedom Scientific seminar on JAWS with Thunderbird, but beyond that, a question that I have is, will it be best or most common to try and download scripts for Thunderbird? Also, right now when I am in the list view for the emails, it does not read the email information, I have to tab once to find the sender information and then shift tab back to the list view and arrow down to the next message and do the same to find out sender information. Any tips would be great.

Nate




Re: Continued Jaws Crashing

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

How about if you do the following command, then try to restart JAWS:

 

INSERT plus WINDOWS KEY plus F4, then try to restart JAWS.

 

Bill White

Billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 10:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Continued Jaws Crashing

 

Hello, everyone.

 

It seems that I have narrowed the Jaws crashing issue on my current Windows 7 computer down to the following sequence of events.

 

Jaws seems to crash when I exit Microsoft Word while Outlook is also open.  Once this happens, Jaws will stop speaking, and I can’t re-activate Jaws either via the usual Alt Control J shortcut, or the Windows R command.

 

The only way I can re-start Jaws is to do a hard shut-down of the computer.

 

My sighted wife says Jaws looks like it is still up on the screen, but she can’t do anything to re-activate it either, short of manually shutting down the computer.

 

Does anyone have a sequence of steps to get out of this issue?

 

Does anyone know if FS is aware of the problem??

 

I did not have this problem prior to  updateing to Jaws 18.

 

To clarify, I’m using Office 365 here, with Word 2016 and Outlook 2016.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 


Re: Thunderbird best practices?

Maria Campbell
 

You might want to download an older version of TB to keep the list view working as before, till VFO decides to fix the problem now occurring.

I am using an older version myself, not v52.


lucky1inct@...
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all.
On 4/23/2017 10:35 AM, Poppa Bear wrote:

I have a client that I am about to teach JAWS to and he is a long time Thunderbird user. I myself am not. I am about to listen to the Freedom Scientific seminar on JAWS with Thunderbird, but beyond that, a question that I have is, will it be best or most common to try and download scripts for Thunderbird? Also, right now when I am in the list view for the emails, it does not read the email information, I have to tab once to find the sender information and then shift tab back to the list view and arrow down to the next message and do the same to find out sender information. Any tips would be great.

Nate



Re: Thunderbird best practices?

Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...>
 

Thank you, I will give it a try. As of now I changed my view to threaded list view and this is helping. On my threaded list view the latest messages show up at the bottom of the list, can this be changed to have the latest messages show up at the top?

Thanks for the assistance,

Nate


On 4/23/2017 9:14 AM, Maria Campbell wrote:

You may have the message preview pane open, and you need to not have it open.  Pres f8 to close it, then you should hear the information you need for each message as you down arrow from one to the other.


lucky1inct@...
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all.
On 4/23/2017 10:35 AM, Poppa Bear wrote:

I have a client that I am about to teach JAWS to and he is a long time Thunderbird user. I myself am not. I am about to listen to the Freedom Scientific seminar on JAWS with Thunderbird, but beyond that, a question that I have is, will it be best or most common to try and download scripts for Thunderbird? Also, right now when I am in the list view for the emails, it does not read the email information, I have to tab once to find the sender information and then shift tab back to the list view and arrow down to the next message and do the same to find out sender information. Any tips would be great.

Nate




Re: Thunderbird best practices?

Maria Campbell
 

You may have the message preview pane open, and you need to not have it open.  Pres f8 to close it, then you should hear the information you need for each message as you down arrow from one to the other.


lucky1inct@...
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all.
On 4/23/2017 10:35 AM, Poppa Bear wrote:

I have a client that I am about to teach JAWS to and he is a long time Thunderbird user. I myself am not. I am about to listen to the Freedom Scientific seminar on JAWS with Thunderbird, but beyond that, a question that I have is, will it be best or most common to try and download scripts for Thunderbird? Also, right now when I am in the list view for the emails, it does not read the email information, I have to tab once to find the sender information and then shift tab back to the list view and arrow down to the next message and do the same to find out sender information. Any tips would be great.

Nate



Re: Continued Jaws Crashing

George Gray
 

If I may jump in here and say that since I took the latest JAWS
upgrade along with this new/great W10 upgrade Creators Edition(LOL)
JAWS has stopped and sent itself quite a few Error Reports, which it
has not done for years and I am not doing anything different than I
did prior to these recent upgrades.

And, why, oh, why did JAWS dis-continue the only real good thing
they've done for many an upgrade and take away the sound ducking
feature.

Go figure, eh?

On 4/23/17, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, everyone.



It seems that I have narrowed the Jaws crashing issue on my current Windows
7 computer down to the following sequence of events.



Jaws seems to crash when I exit Microsoft Word while Outlook is also open.
Once this happens, Jaws will stop speaking, and I can't re-activate Jaws
either via the usual Alt Control J shortcut, or the Windows R command.



The only way I can re-start Jaws is to do a hard shut-down of the computer.



My sighted wife says Jaws looks like it is still up on the screen, but she
can't do anything to re-activate it either, short of manually shutting down
the computer.



Does anyone have a sequence of steps to get out of this issue?



Does anyone know if FS is aware of the problem??



I did not have this problem prior to updateing to Jaws 18.



To clarify, I'm using Office 365 here, with Word 2016 and Outlook 2016.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan







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Re: Thunderbird best practices?

Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...>
 

Thank you very much. I have gotten that far with opening a message. So, as
of now can one still no longer arrow down in the list view to see the
message sender information? I read something about thread view, does this
change this break? How would I set the list view to thread view? Also, there
are a couple different sets of scripts out there for TB, but one is payed
and I typically like to teach students how to maneuver around with the
native JAWS keystrokes when available.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 8:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Thunderbird best practices?

Nate, when I launch TB, I wait until I hear the sound for incoming messages
that have downloaded into the inbox (about 10 to 30 seconds), then I press
tab twice which lands me on the treelist of folders, of which the inbox is
usually first, then I press tab to review the new email that came, and
pressing the enter key opens it so I can read it with JAWS or NVDA, and once
I'm done, I press the escape key to close it. (I have TB set to open a new
email in a separate window). I am then returned to the list of messages,
back to the one I just red.

to my knowledge, there isn't any third party scripts for JAWS that enhance
the use of TB, but it would be nice if someone would. however, a basic set
has been included with JAWS already. the problem is that there are some
instances where scripting would be helpful, like when using the spell
checker, if a word is detected, the misspelled word is not automatically
red, the JAWS cursor has to be used to find out what it is. additionally, it
would be useful if there was a JAWS keystroke to read the misspelled word in
context so you can decide what the word should be. the keyboard shortcuts
like alt i to ignore, alt r to replace, alt s to send, etc still work, and
you can still press the tab key to and press the space bar on the choice of
action you want to perform.

but since TB now updated to version 52, using the JAWS cursor is no longer
possible. and I suspect there are other instances that have been curtailed
that I don't use or know about.

there are most likely other instances where scripting would be useful to
effectively deal with using TB that I didn't mention or know about.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Poppa Bear [mailto:heavens4real@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, Apr 23, 2017 11:35 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Thunderbird best practices?

I have a client that I am about to teach JAWS to and he is a long time
Thunderbird user. I myself am not. I am about to listen to the Freedom
Scientific seminar on JAWS with Thunderbird, but beyond that, a question
that I have is, will it be best or most common to try and download scripts
for Thunderbird? Also, right now when I am in the list view for the emails,
it does not read the email information, I have to tab once to find the
sender information and then shift tab back to the list view and arrow down
to the next message and do the same to find out sender information. Any tips
would be great.

Nate


Continued Jaws Crashing

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

It seems that I have narrowed the Jaws crashing issue on my current Windows 7 computer down to the following sequence of events.

 

Jaws seems to crash when I exit Microsoft Word while Outlook is also open.  Once this happens, Jaws will stop speaking, and I can’t re-activate Jaws either via the usual Alt Control J shortcut, or the Windows R command.

 

The only way I can re-start Jaws is to do a hard shut-down of the computer.

 

My sighted wife says Jaws looks like it is still up on the screen, but she can’t do anything to re-activate it either, short of manually shutting down the computer.

 

Does anyone have a sequence of steps to get out of this issue?

 

Does anyone know if FS is aware of the problem??

 

I did not have this problem prior to  updateing to Jaws 18.

 

To clarify, I’m using Office 365 here, with Word 2016 and Outlook 2016.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 


Re: Thunderbird best practices?

Mario
 

Nate, when I launch TB, I wait until I hear the sound for incoming
messages that have downloaded into the inbox (about 10 to 30 seconds),
then I press tab twice which lands me on the treelist of folders, of
which the inbox is usually first, then I press tab to review the new
email that came, and pressing the enter key opens it so I can read it
with JAWS or NVDA, and once I'm done, I press the escape key to close
it. (I have TB set to open a new email in a separate window). I am then
returned to the list of messages, back to the one I just red.

to my knowledge, there isn't any third party scripts for JAWS that
enhance the use of TB, but it would be nice if someone would. however, a
basic set has been included with JAWS already. the problem is that there
are some instances where scripting would be helpful, like when using the
spell checker, if a word is detected, the misspelled word is not
automatically red, the JAWS cursor has to be used to find out what it
is. additionally, it would be useful if there was a JAWS keystroke to
read the misspelled word in context so you can decide what the word
should be. the keyboard shortcuts like alt i to ignore, alt r to
replace, alt s to send, etc still work, and you can still press the tab
key to and press the space bar on the choice of action you want to perform.

but since TB now updated to version 52, using the JAWS cursor is no
longer possible. and I suspect there are other instances that have been
curtailed that I don't use or know about.

there are most likely other instances where scripting would be useful to
effectively deal with using TB that I didn't mention or know about.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Poppa Bear [mailto:heavens4real@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, Apr 23, 2017 11:35 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Thunderbird best practices?

I have a client that I am about to teach JAWS to and he is a long time
Thunderbird user. I myself am not. I am about to listen to the Freedom
Scientific seminar on JAWS with Thunderbird, but beyond that, a question
that I have is, will it be best or most common to try and download scripts
for Thunderbird? Also, right now when I am in the list view for the emails,
it does not read the email information, I have to tab once to find the
sender information and then shift tab back to the list view and arrow down
to the next message and do the same to find out sender information. Any tips
would be great.

Nate


Thunderbird best practices?

Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...>
 

I have a client that I am about to teach JAWS to and he is a long time Thunderbird user. I myself am not. I am about to listen to the Freedom Scientific seminar on JAWS with Thunderbird, but beyond that, a question that I have is, will it be best or most common to try and download scripts for Thunderbird? Also, right now when I am in the list view for the emails, it does not read the email information, I have to tab once to find the sender information and then shift tab back to the list view and arrow down to the next message and do the same to find out sender information. Any tips would be great.

Nate


Re: Preventing videos/ads from playing

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 


Re: Preventing videos/ads from playing

Scott Delventhal
 

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 08:57 pm, Randy Barnett wrote:
In IE Go to options then advanced and uncheck everything you dont want to load under the multimedia heading. If you want to play something then you may have to go back and recheck the option you turned off...

 On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 08:57 pm, Randy Barnett wrote:

In IE Go to options then advanced and uncheck everything you dont want to load under the multimedia heading. If you want to play something then you may have to go back and recheck the option you turned off...

 

Bill, yes you are correct, this is what I need:

To block music and other media which appear on some websites when the page is loaded makes it impossible to hear the screen reader’s voice over the other media.

and

Randy, unfortunately this suggestion did not work for me.

S        

    cott


Re: JAWS 18 and Calculator

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

First I used to have to press ca, but since I've used it so
much, it gives me calculator as first choice.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and Calculator

Bill,

Instead of pressing C repeatedly, just press the Windows Key
and immediately start typing the word Calculator. I doubt
you have to type past the first 3 or so letters for it to
come up. For me the first thing that comes up after "c" is
Google Chrome, but as soon as I type the "a" calculator has
focus and I can press enter to start the app.
Also, many keyboards have calculator shortcut keys. I'm
using a Logitech MK710 and it has a calculator key on the
very right at the same height as the Function keys. After
the Print Screen, Scroll lock and Pause keys there is a gap
and then a lone key off to the right and it brings up the
calculator.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and Calculator

I have to press the C key a couple of times to get the
Calculator. First comes Control Panel.
Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 11:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 18 and Calculator

I have JAWS 18, latest update. I also have Windows 10 and
just press the Windows Key and then C - VOILA, up comes
calculator. I use the qwerty numbers and symbols - works
like a charm, only way to go to figure my Visa figures.
They're not on my spread sheet right now.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 1:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 18 and Calculator

I saw a number of posts on this list earlier about the
calculator. Indeed, in Windows 10, it is hidden. With a
little sighted assistance, however, we found it and pinned
it to the task bar, which was a good solution.

And, a huge thanks to the discussion about using the Windows
Key and numbers keys to jump to applications. I had
forgotten about those commands entirely. Now, I use them
all the time. They are fantastic!

Well, I installed JAWS 18 yesterday. ALAS! The calculator
that worked so well in JAWS 17 appears to be completely
broken in JAWS 18 or, if not broken, is implemented so badly
as to be useless.

It is so good to be able to keep old versions of JAWS around
so that when Freedom Scientific screws up, as they did with
calculator, one can go back to a prior version. The
calculator works great in JAWS 17. It seems unusable in
JAWS 18.





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