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Re: installing jfw without burning a key
Adrian Spratt
Ted, see FS's list of revisions for the forthcoming JAWS 13 update. Kimsan
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posted it yesterday. Your problem may well have been a defect in JAWS.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 7:59 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: installing jfw without burning a key Yes, I read about the UAC problem, but I run XP Media Center (read XP Pro), so I'm still at a loss. It's probably something in the startup or services group, something that gets in their early. Ted -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:23 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: installing jfw without burning a key Hello there; Not sure what the problem was: However, Jaws13 takes a little longer to install because of the OCR feature/files needs to be downloaded, Also, if you tried to activate, not sure wich version of windows, however, if it's vista, or win7, Maybe the UAC was blocking the FSActivate process, as it did with one of my clients. You can go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/_vti_Activate/FSActivate.asp here you can find out how many keys you have remaining, before a reset. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 7:53 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: installing jfw without burning a key I installed 13 yesterday, and had to get Jason to do a Tandem to get it in. Worse, I followed his suggestion and trashed my old authorization. I imagine this means I'm out of keys, and will have to refill before I can install here at the office. The Tandem worked fine (yes, Virginia, you can do it on dial up), but I can't figure out where the block was, and have no guarantee it won't happen again next year. As I'm running XP Pro, the solution put forth last week is inapplicable. It has to be something small. On the plus side, this looks to be lucky 13--really sweet. I had a little trouble with OCR, but finally realized Eric was using different settings on his machine. After reading the help screen several times, I finally realized the whole thing had to be done with the JAWS cursor, which is why it kept saying JAWS cursor--talk about getting hit over the head. The formatting was lousy on the Kenwood manual, and there were a lot of typos, but it worked! Boy, were you guys right about the default voice--sounds like Julia Childes in drag! Ted -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 11:15 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: installing jfw without burning a key Yes I did and I am back to one key as I just checked it right now as I am typing this message. Peace! -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 7:33 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: installing jfw without burning a key Kimsan, On the FSActivate site there is a link to fill out a form to request that your activation count be reinstated. Have you done that? Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 21:10 Subject: RE: installing jfw without burning a key I don't even have jaws 12 installed. All I have running on my machine is jaws and window eyes. I just looked on the fs activate site and I have no activations left. Oh well, I will just stick with whaaat I have. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 7:49 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: installing jfw without burning a key Kimsan, So you're saying that your JAWS 12 runs in 40-minute mode and you have no more activations left on the FSActivate web site? IF so, it won't help your install of JAWS 13. If you had previously saved your activation and authorization folders from your previous non-demo-mode JAWS 12 you could then recover them and JAWS 12 should then run normally. If you have JAWS 12 running normally then installing JAWS 13 should not require you to reactivate -- unless...you don't have any more SMA to allow you to run JAWS 13. If that is the case, the technique to not burn a key will not help. So I'm a bit confused with your question and your exact situation, as you can surmise. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 15:30 Subject: installing jfw without burning a key I am wanting to know if I installed 13 and wanted to activate 12 without burning a key would that make sense or will I need to install from the oldest version to the most current one. I am referencing the steps that someone provided a while back. I am aware it is not garenteed to work on a windows 7 machine but I got lucky last time. Why do I want 12 seeing as I have 13 running? No special reason, just curious on how it would work if it would work. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Re: installing jfw without burning a key
Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Yes, I read about the UAC problem, but I run XP Media Center (read XP
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Pro), so I'm still at a loss. It's probably something in the startup or services group, something that gets in their early. Ted
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:23 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: installing jfw without burning a key Hello there; Not sure what the problem was: However, Jaws13 takes a little longer to install because of the OCR feature/files needs to be downloaded, Also, if you tried to activate, not sure wich version of windows, however, if it's vista, or win7, Maybe the UAC was blocking the FSActivate process, as it did with one of my clients. You can go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/_vti_Activate/FSActivate.asp here you can find out how many keys you have remaining, before a reset. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 7:53 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: installing jfw without burning a key I installed 13 yesterday, and had to get Jason to do a Tandem to get it in. Worse, I followed his suggestion and trashed my old authorization. I imagine this means I'm out of keys, and will have to refill before I can install here at the office. The Tandem worked fine (yes, Virginia, you can do it on dial up), but I can't figure out where the block was, and have no guarantee it won't happen again next year. As I'm running XP Pro, the solution put forth last week is inapplicable. It has to be something small. On the plus side, this looks to be lucky 13--really sweet. I had a little trouble with OCR, but finally realized Eric was using different settings on his machine. After reading the help screen several times, I finally realized the whole thing had to be done with the JAWS cursor, which is why it kept saying JAWS cursor--talk about getting hit over the head. The formatting was lousy on the Kenwood manual, and there were a lot of typos, but it worked! Boy, were you guys right about the default voice--sounds like Julia Childes in drag! Ted -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 11:15 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: installing jfw without burning a key Yes I did and I am back to one key as I just checked it right now as I am typing this message. Peace! -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 7:33 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: installing jfw without burning a key Kimsan, On the FSActivate site there is a link to fill out a form to request that your activation count be reinstated. Have you done that? Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 21:10 Subject: RE: installing jfw without burning a key I don't even have jaws 12 installed. All I have running on my machine is jaws and window eyes. I just looked on the fs activate site and I have no activations left. Oh well, I will just stick with whaaat I have. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 7:49 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: installing jfw without burning a key Kimsan, So you're saying that your JAWS 12 runs in 40-minute mode and you have no more activations left on the FSActivate web site? IF so, it won't help your install of JAWS 13. If you had previously saved your activation and authorization folders from your previous non-demo-mode JAWS 12 you could then recover them and JAWS 12 should then run normally. If you have JAWS 12 running normally then installing JAWS 13 should not require you to reactivate -- unless...you don't have any more SMA to allow you to run JAWS 13. If that is the case, the technique to not burn a key will not help. So I'm a bit confused with your question and your exact situation, as you can surmise. Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 15:30 Subject: installing jfw without burning a key I am wanting to know if I installed 13 and wanted to activate 12 without burning a key would that make sense or will I need to install from the oldest version to the most current one. I am referencing the steps that someone provided a while back. I am aware it is not garenteed to work on a windows 7 machine but I got lucky last time. Why do I want 12 seeing as I have 13 running? No special reason, just curious on how it would work if it would work. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Re: open parent document button
Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
They just randomly occur. I will send you one, the next time it pops up.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Lange Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 10:06 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: open parent document button Hi, Okay, that's good to know. Do you have some examples of web sites where this problem shows up? What are their addresses? Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:58 PM Subject: RE: open parent document button Tom, a<http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201111 08/f1c7f3ce/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: open parent document button
Tom Lange
Hi,
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Okay, that's good to know. Do you have some examples of web sites where this problem shows up? What are their addresses? Tom
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From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:58 PM Subject: RE: open parent document button Tom,
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Re: open parent document button
Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
Tom,
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I am using jfw 13 and IE 8.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Lange Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:38 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: open parent document button Hi Kimsan, What version of JAWS are you running and what version of your web browser are you using? If you're using an older version of JAWS with Internet Explorer 8 or higher, you might encounter this problem, in which case you need to update your JAWS or roll back to an earlier browser version. Just a thought. Hope this helps. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:08 PM Subject: RE: open parent document button I don't think it's a pdf. I get this when visiting90 percent of the sites I<http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201111 08/f1c7f3ce/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: how do I get rid of tutor messages?
Kerri <kootenaycreek@...>
1. Open jaws with insert j.
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Press Alt o for options then enter on basic. It is the first option and just up arrow until it says turn off menu and control help.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Deb and Cori Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:42 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Subject: how do I get rid of tutor messages? I just installed jaws 13. I can not find out how to disable tutor messages. Help! Deb _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: how do I get rid of tutor messages?
Tom Lange
Hi Deb,
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Press insert+j to go into the JAWS window or the JAWS menu if you're running JAWS in the system tray. Open the Options menu or submenu and press enter on Basics. In the Basic Settings dialog, you'll land on Tutor Messages, which is the first set of radio buttons. Use your down arrow to get to "turn off menu and control help", and press enter. That oughta do it... Tom
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From: "Deb and Cori" <debsoundandscent@earthlink.net> To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:42 PM Subject: how do I get rid of tutor messages? I just installed jaws 13.
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Re: More then one JAWS?
Dondi
Thanks, I understand now.
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Dondi
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:25 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: More then one JAWS? Yes, JAWS is unlike many other applications in that the latest version doesn't replace earlier ones. They exist side-by-side. When you go to programs from the start menu, press j and arrow down, you'll find all the versions of JAWS stored on your system. You can select which version takes precedence by checking the "Automatically start JAWS" checkbox that you find as follows: 1. Press insert-j. 2. Press enter on options. 3. Press enter on Basics. 4. Tab to "Automatically start Jaws" and press spacebar. 5. Tab to OK and press spacebar again. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dondi Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:48 PM To: JAWS mailing list Subject: More then one JAWS? Hi, How would I install JAWS 13 while still having version 12 on my computer? I don't understand how you select which one would start up when Windows starts. Where does JAWS start up from? Dondi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201111 09/a401ec22/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: how do I get rid of tutor messages?
Shane Davidson <shane@...>
Deb;
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The following steps will help you. 1. press JAWSKey+J to bring focus to the jaws window, or jaws menu depending on your configuration. 2. if you are in a menu, this means your jaws window was in the system tray. Press the letter O. If you simply here JAWS then this means it's an actual window, so you'll need to press alt+O to bring up the options menu. 3. Press the letter B for the basics... dialog. 4. the 1st control you'll land in is what you want, use up and down arrows to highlight the turn off menu and control help radio button. 5. if you wish to turn off access keys as well, press tab once, and arrow up and down until you find the off radio button. 6. Press enter to activate the OK button and exit the dialog. Let us know if we can be of any further assistance. Have a great night. Shane Davidosn
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Deb and Cori Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 11:42 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Subject: how do I get rid of tutor messages? I just installed jaws 13. I can not find out how to disable tutor messages. Help! Deb _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: More then one JAWS?
Dondi
Which one 11, 12, or 13 loads with Windows? Or are you launching JAWS after
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Windows? If version 11 is loading with Windows and you uninstall it how would you launch another version of JAWS at startup? Would you reinstall one of the other versions so that it loaded when Windows starts Dondi?
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of tcivi31 Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 7:56 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: More then one JAWS? I have versions 11,12,and 13 on my computer. Each one has a different shortcut key; J for 13, F for 12 and W for 11. I will probably drop 11 after a while. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dondi" <zidnod63@gmail.com> To: "JAWS mailing list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 6:48 PM Subject: More then one JAWS? Hi, _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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how do I get rid of tutor messages?
Deb and the girls
I just installed jaws 13.
I can not find out how to disable tutor messages. Help! Deb
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Re: open parent document button
Tom Lange
Hi Kimsan,
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What version of JAWS are you running and what version of your web browser are you using? If you're using an older version of JAWS with Internet Explorer 8 or higher, you might encounter this problem, in which case you need to update your JAWS or roll back to an earlier browser version. Just a thought. Hope this helps. Tom
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From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 8:08 PM Subject: RE: open parent document button I don't think it's a pdf. I get this when visiting90 percent of the sites I
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Re: More then one JAWS?
Adrian Spratt
Yes, JAWS is unlike many other applications in that the latest version
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doesn't replace earlier ones. They exist side-by-side. When you go to programs from the start menu, press j and arrow down, you'll find all the versions of JAWS stored on your system. You can select which version takes precedence by checking the "Automatically start JAWS" checkbox that you find as follows: 1. Press insert-j. 2. Press enter on options. 3. Press enter on Basics. 4. Tab to "Automatically start Jaws" and press spacebar. 5. Tab to OK and press spacebar again.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dondi Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:48 PM To: JAWS mailing list Subject: More then one JAWS? Hi, How would I install JAWS 13 while still having version 12 on my computer? I don't understand how you select which one would start up when Windows starts. Where does JAWS start up from? Dondi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201111 09/a401ec22/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: open parent document button
Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
I don't think it's a pdf. I get this when visiting90 percent of the sites I
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go to. Well, not 90 percent, just a lot of them.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill Spiry Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 7:45 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: open parent document button I think you're hitting that when you open a PDF in IE. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 2:02 PM To: jfw Subject: open parent document button This was talked about a while back so can someone refresh my memory? I think it was on this list? I launch my browser and navigate to a page and I get open paren document button what is this and how to make it stop? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201111 08/f1c7f3ce/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: jfw update
Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
Got it off the jaws-users.com mailing list...
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill Spiry Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 7:41 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: jfw update Thanks. what list did you get this on? -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 12:08 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: jfw update Interesting, and to FS's credit, that a number of these revisions address concerns raised on the list. Thanks for posting. This has the air of Eric Damery. Is the message from him? -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:25 PM To: jfw Subject: jfw update Got this from another list and decided to be thoughtful and post it here. All, We are in the final stages of testing the first JAWS 13 update and plan to release next Monday. We have decided to offer early access to this update for those that want it prior to the Auto Update next week. If you are interested, the instructions are below along with the list of changes since the DVD build 303 was posted. Regards, Eric Damery JAWS 13 Sneak Preview The next JAWS 13 hotfix is scheduled for November 14, 2011. If you would like an early preview of the upcoming release, use the access code 370702 to download and install the update as described below. Note that before attempting the update, you must have Internet access and JAWS running. Do the following to enter the access code. 1. Press INSERT+J to move focus to the JAWS window. 2. From the Help menu, choose About JAWS. 3. Choose the Special Update Code button, and then type 370702 in the Special Update Code edit box. 4. Choose OK to close the current dialog box, and then OK again to close the About JAWS dialog box. 5. Once this is done, just restart JAWS and the Auto Update will prompt you to receive the new build, JAWS 13.0.527. Enhancements and Improvements in JAWS 13 This page describes all improvements made from the first public beta release to the current JAWS 13 release. To download the latest release, visit the JAWS Downloads Web page <http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS-downloads.a . Enhancements in JAWS 13.0.527 (November 2011) * Resolved an issue encountered on some systems when updating authorization to JAWS 13. After updating authorization, you may need to restart JAWS in order for it to take affect. * Resolved a long-standing issue where it was sometimes necessary to reboot the computer in order to use JAWS if the application unexpectedly closed. * Resolved an issue where the braille cursor was not positioned as expected in edit fields when using Structured Mode. * The Primary and Secondary language for Convenient OCR can now be changed through Quick Settings (INSERT+V). * Documentation is now available describing the latest improvements in the JAWS scripting language. For more information, visit the Enhancements in Scripting <http://www.freedomscientific.com/documentation/scripts/scripting-info.a Web page. * If more than one command prompt window is open, addressed an issue where JAWS would continue reading text from one command prompt window even after changing focus to the other. * Resolved an issue with Contracted English Braille translation where the number sign was not appearing directly before the number if the number was proceeded by a quote and a comma. * If the Results Viewer and Virtual Viewer are open at the same time, resolved an issue where pressing ESC would close both viewers. * Addressed an issue where JAWS was not playing a sound to identify checked items in some dialog boxes even if the current speech and sounds scheme was configured to do so. * Resolved an issue turning off the "read only" announcement in a speech and sounds scheme. * If you are using a braille display, JAWS no longer goes into Line Mode when renaming a file or folder. * In applications where JAWS can announce indented text, resolved an issue where JAWS was not speaking indentation information when using the Say Line command (INSERT+UP ARROW). * Pressing ALT+UP ARROW in the help text in Settings Center and Quick Settings now reads the prior sentence. * Resolved an issue with PAC Mate Desktop not starting correctly. * The Study Mode option is now only available if you are using a braille display that has a double row of cursor router and navrow buttons, such as the PAC Mate Portable Braille Display, or the Focus 40, Focus 80, and Focus 40 Blue braille displays. Study Mode is located under Braille Options in Quick Settings. * The Current Word Expand option is now only available in Quick Settings when contracted braille translation is set to Output only. * In the Startup Wizard, the Enable Flash Messages check box and Contracted Braille Translation combo box now have INSERT+F1 help. * Addressed issues that could occur when installing JAWS 13 while JAWS 12 and MAGic 11 are currently running. * Resolved an issue where nothing is heard when navigating to a visited link and the current speech and sounds scheme is configured to play a sound. JAWS Research It * Resolved an issue where the Results Viewer was blank if Research It did not find any results for a search. A message is now displayed if no results are found. * The NCAA lookup source now returns all division 1-A scores and schedules. Previously, only the top 25 was displayed. In addition, if you search for a particular team, both division 1-A and 1-AA are searched. * Addressed issues with the Weather lookup source when checking the weather for international locations. Adobe Acrobat * Resolved an issue with JAWS not announcing edit combo boxes in certain PDF documents while navigating with the ARROW keys. Eclipse * Addressed an issue where Eclipse would unexpectedly close when opening and closing the menu. Microsoft Excel * When you press an access key in the spell checker to move to the next error, JAWS no longer speaks the access key you just pressed while reading the current error. * Addressed a reported issue in Excel 2003 and Windows XP where the Undo option was not working as expected. * Addressed an issue in Excel 2010 where JAWS would speak the tutor message each time an option in the Fill tab of the Format Cells dialog box was changed. This would occur even if Tutor Message was set to only announce custom messages. * Resolved an issue in Excel 2003 where the content of text boxes was not being displayed in the Virtual Viewer. There were only blank lines where the text in the box should have appeared. * Improved how JAWS reads cell information when pressing ESC after adding a comment. * Resolved an issue where the current cell was not read after pressing ESC to close the custom summary. * When navigating the color controls in the Fill page of the Format Cells dialog box, resolved an issue where JAWS was not properly reading the selected color. * Resolved an issue setting column and row titles in Quick Settings. Microsoft Internet Explorer * Addressed an issue where JAWS would not indicate combo boxes on certain Web pages when navigating with the Virtual Cursor. * When selecting a same page link to move to a different location on the current page, pressing ALT+LEFT ARROW to go back now returns you to the link. * Resolved an issue with using TAB to navigate buttons contained inside Flash content. * When you press ENTER on a link in the custom page summary, JAWS now moves you to the correct location on the Web page. * Resolved an issue where JAWS would get stuck on words containing a left quote when navigating by word. Microsoft Office * Resolved issues navigating in Microsoft Office applications with Tutor Messages set to Custom. Microsoft Outlook * JAWS is now much more responsive when navigating in the Inbox in Outlook 2010. * Navigation in the File menu in Outlook 2010 has been improved. * Resolved a customer reported issue in Outlook 2003 where pressing NUMPAD 5 twice quickly to speak the current character phonetically was not working in the subject field of an appointment. * When pressing ALT+GRAVE to move to the message body and the first line of the message contains a link, JAWS no longer activates the link. * Addressed an issue in Outlook 2007 and 2010 using TAB to navigate to links in a read-only message. * Resolved an issue of hearing a system ding while navigating through messages in the Inbox. This occured if you had several consecutive messages from the same address. * Resolved an issue of hearing indentation information while navigating through links in a read-only message in Outlook 2007 and 2010. * If the edit combo box in the Find and Replace combo box contains text from a previous search, addressed an issue where the contents of this field were not being announced by JAWS when the dialog box opens. * When navigating by paragraph in an Outlook 2007 or 2010 message, JAWS no longer speaks the paragraph twice. * Addressed a reported issue in the Outlook 2010 calendar where the backstage view options were not being announced while navigating. * When deleting consecutive messages from the same sender, or that have the same subject, resolved an intermittent issue where JAWS would sometimes not automatically read the next message in the list. * Resolved an issue in the non-English version of Outlook where JAWS would unexpectedly close while navigating the calendar after setting an appointment after 23:00. Microsoft Word * Updated the INSERT+F1 help message for the Quick Access tool bar in Word 2007 and 2010. * Resolved an issue where JAWS was not correctly reporting the indentation level of the last line in a Word document. * Resolved an issue where after clearing the Word check box in the Manage Application Settings dialog box, JAWS would continue using any setting changes made in Quick Settings instead of reverting to default settings. * Resolved an issue where margin information was being reported differently depending on whether or not the cursor was in a table. * The Include Demensions option in Quick Settings has been renamed to Include Graphical Demensions to make it easier to find when doing a search. This option only appears when Quick Settings is opened from Word or Outlook. * Addressed an issue where page changes were not announced during a Say All until you pressed ALT+TAB to move away and back to the document. This only occured in Word 2007. * JAWS no longer incorrectly announces indentation information when encountering outdented text, such as in an outline. * Resolved a customer reported issue with the New Lines and Paragraphs Indication option in Quick Settings not changing based on whether paragraph marks are shown or not. When you enable or disable the displaying of paragraph marks in the Word Options dialog box, JAWS automatically sets the New Lines and Paragraphs Indication setting accordingly. * Addressed an issue where style changes were being announced after enabling spelling detection from Quick Settings. * Resolved an issue where Grammatical Error Detection was enabled when turning off Spelling Error Detection in Quick Settings. * Removed references to the Task Pane from the INSERT+F1 help messages for the Quick Access and Status Bar toolbar controls. * Resolved an issue with Quick Settings where changing Style Changes to Always Announce was not turning off the Headings Announce option. * Resolved an issue with the Spanish version of JAWS where JAWS messages containing accented characters were not read correctly in Word. * If you have customized the dot pattern for the braille cursor, addressed an issue where using Track Changes was changing it back to the default setting. * Pressing ALT+DELETE while in a table now provides more accurate cursor position information. * Resolved an issue in Word 2007 with JAWS not properly navigating tables until you used ALT+TAB to move away and back to the document. This occured when opening a document containing tables from Windows Explorer. * Resolved an issue where table navigation commands would no longer work after typing text into a table cell. Mozilla Firefox * The page title is now shown on the braille display when pressing INSERT+T even when you are positioned on a heading. Note that the currently selected heading is included with the title information. This was also addressed in Internet Explorer. * Toggling the Document Automatically Reads check box in Quick Settings now works as expected. When this option is cleared, JAWS will not automatically read the Web page after it loads. Visual Studio * Addressed an issue where you had to press ALT+TAB to move away from the application and back to get focus into the output window after starting a compile. Windows 7 * Addressed an issue encountered after using ALT+TAB to move to the Desktop where JAWS would not announce the count of the selected item, for example, five of eight. Pressing INSERT+T would also not speak the window title. This did not occur if WINDOWS Key+M was used to go to the Desktop. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: open parent document button
Bill Spiry
I think you're hitting that when you open a PDF in IE.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 2:02 PM To: jfw Subject: open parent document button This was talked about a while back so can someone refresh my memory? I think it was on this list? I launch my browser and navigate to a page and I get open paren document button what is this and how to make it stop? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201111 08/f1c7f3ce/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: jfw update
Bill Spiry
Thanks. what list did you get this on?
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 12:08 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: jfw update Interesting, and to FS's credit, that a number of these revisions address concerns raised on the list. Thanks for posting. This has the air of Eric Damery. Is the message from him? -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:25 PM To: jfw Subject: jfw update Got this from another list and decided to be thoughtful and post it here. All, We are in the final stages of testing the first JAWS 13 update and plan to release next Monday. We have decided to offer early access to this update for those that want it prior to the Auto Update next week. If you are interested, the instructions are below along with the list of changes since the DVD build 303 was posted. Regards, Eric Damery JAWS 13 Sneak Preview The next JAWS 13 hotfix is scheduled for November 14, 2011. If you would like an early preview of the upcoming release, use the access code 370702 to download and install the update as described below. Note that before attempting the update, you must have Internet access and JAWS running. Do the following to enter the access code. 1. Press INSERT+J to move focus to the JAWS window. 2. From the Help menu, choose About JAWS. 3. Choose the Special Update Code button, and then type 370702 in the Special Update Code edit box. 4. Choose OK to close the current dialog box, and then OK again to close the About JAWS dialog box. 5. Once this is done, just restart JAWS and the Auto Update will prompt you to receive the new build, JAWS 13.0.527. Enhancements and Improvements in JAWS 13 This page describes all improvements made from the first public beta release to the current JAWS 13 release. To download the latest release, visit the JAWS Downloads Web page <http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/JAWS-downloads.a . Enhancements in JAWS 13.0.527 (November 2011) * Resolved an issue encountered on some systems when updating authorization to JAWS 13. After updating authorization, you may need to restart JAWS in order for it to take affect. * Resolved a long-standing issue where it was sometimes necessary to reboot the computer in order to use JAWS if the application unexpectedly closed. * Resolved an issue where the braille cursor was not positioned as expected in edit fields when using Structured Mode. * The Primary and Secondary language for Convenient OCR can now be changed through Quick Settings (INSERT+V). * Documentation is now available describing the latest improvements in the JAWS scripting language. For more information, visit the Enhancements in Scripting <http://www.freedomscientific.com/documentation/scripts/scripting-info.a Web page. * If more than one command prompt window is open, addressed an issue where JAWS would continue reading text from one command prompt window even after changing focus to the other. * Resolved an issue with Contracted English Braille translation where the number sign was not appearing directly before the number if the number was proceeded by a quote and a comma. * If the Results Viewer and Virtual Viewer are open at the same time, resolved an issue where pressing ESC would close both viewers. * Addressed an issue where JAWS was not playing a sound to identify checked items in some dialog boxes even if the current speech and sounds scheme was configured to do so. * Resolved an issue turning off the "read only" announcement in a speech and sounds scheme. * If you are using a braille display, JAWS no longer goes into Line Mode when renaming a file or folder. * In applications where JAWS can announce indented text, resolved an issue where JAWS was not speaking indentation information when using the Say Line command (INSERT+UP ARROW). * Pressing ALT+UP ARROW in the help text in Settings Center and Quick Settings now reads the prior sentence. * Resolved an issue with PAC Mate Desktop not starting correctly. * The Study Mode option is now only available if you are using a braille display that has a double row of cursor router and navrow buttons, such as the PAC Mate Portable Braille Display, or the Focus 40, Focus 80, and Focus 40 Blue braille displays. Study Mode is located under Braille Options in Quick Settings. * The Current Word Expand option is now only available in Quick Settings when contracted braille translation is set to Output only. * In the Startup Wizard, the Enable Flash Messages check box and Contracted Braille Translation combo box now have INSERT+F1 help. * Addressed issues that could occur when installing JAWS 13 while JAWS 12 and MAGic 11 are currently running. * Resolved an issue where nothing is heard when navigating to a visited link and the current speech and sounds scheme is configured to play a sound. JAWS Research It * Resolved an issue where the Results Viewer was blank if Research It did not find any results for a search. A message is now displayed if no results are found. * The NCAA lookup source now returns all division 1-A scores and schedules. Previously, only the top 25 was displayed. In addition, if you search for a particular team, both division 1-A and 1-AA are searched. * Addressed issues with the Weather lookup source when checking the weather for international locations. Adobe Acrobat * Resolved an issue with JAWS not announcing edit combo boxes in certain PDF documents while navigating with the ARROW keys. Eclipse * Addressed an issue where Eclipse would unexpectedly close when opening and closing the menu. Microsoft Excel * When you press an access key in the spell checker to move to the next error, JAWS no longer speaks the access key you just pressed while reading the current error. * Addressed a reported issue in Excel 2003 and Windows XP where the Undo option was not working as expected. * Addressed an issue in Excel 2010 where JAWS would speak the tutor message each time an option in the Fill tab of the Format Cells dialog box was changed. This would occur even if Tutor Message was set to only announce custom messages. * Resolved an issue in Excel 2003 where the content of text boxes was not being displayed in the Virtual Viewer. There were only blank lines where the text in the box should have appeared. * Improved how JAWS reads cell information when pressing ESC after adding a comment. * Resolved an issue where the current cell was not read after pressing ESC to close the custom summary. * When navigating the color controls in the Fill page of the Format Cells dialog box, resolved an issue where JAWS was not properly reading the selected color. * Resolved an issue setting column and row titles in Quick Settings. Microsoft Internet Explorer * Addressed an issue where JAWS would not indicate combo boxes on certain Web pages when navigating with the Virtual Cursor. * When selecting a same page link to move to a different location on the current page, pressing ALT+LEFT ARROW to go back now returns you to the link. * Resolved an issue with using TAB to navigate buttons contained inside Flash content. * When you press ENTER on a link in the custom page summary, JAWS now moves you to the correct location on the Web page. * Resolved an issue where JAWS would get stuck on words containing a left quote when navigating by word. Microsoft Office * Resolved issues navigating in Microsoft Office applications with Tutor Messages set to Custom. Microsoft Outlook * JAWS is now much more responsive when navigating in the Inbox in Outlook 2010. * Navigation in the File menu in Outlook 2010 has been improved. * Resolved a customer reported issue in Outlook 2003 where pressing NUMPAD 5 twice quickly to speak the current character phonetically was not working in the subject field of an appointment. * When pressing ALT+GRAVE to move to the message body and the first line of the message contains a link, JAWS no longer activates the link. * Addressed an issue in Outlook 2007 and 2010 using TAB to navigate to links in a read-only message. * Resolved an issue of hearing a system ding while navigating through messages in the Inbox. This occured if you had several consecutive messages from the same address. * Resolved an issue of hearing indentation information while navigating through links in a read-only message in Outlook 2007 and 2010. * If the edit combo box in the Find and Replace combo box contains text from a previous search, addressed an issue where the contents of this field were not being announced by JAWS when the dialog box opens. * When navigating by paragraph in an Outlook 2007 or 2010 message, JAWS no longer speaks the paragraph twice. * Addressed a reported issue in the Outlook 2010 calendar where the backstage view options were not being announced while navigating. * When deleting consecutive messages from the same sender, or that have the same subject, resolved an intermittent issue where JAWS would sometimes not automatically read the next message in the list. * Resolved an issue in the non-English version of Outlook where JAWS would unexpectedly close while navigating the calendar after setting an appointment after 23:00. Microsoft Word * Updated the INSERT+F1 help message for the Quick Access tool bar in Word 2007 and 2010. * Resolved an issue where JAWS was not correctly reporting the indentation level of the last line in a Word document. * Resolved an issue where after clearing the Word check box in the Manage Application Settings dialog box, JAWS would continue using any setting changes made in Quick Settings instead of reverting to default settings. * Resolved an issue where margin information was being reported differently depending on whether or not the cursor was in a table. * The Include Demensions option in Quick Settings has been renamed to Include Graphical Demensions to make it easier to find when doing a search. This option only appears when Quick Settings is opened from Word or Outlook. * Addressed an issue where page changes were not announced during a Say All until you pressed ALT+TAB to move away and back to the document. This only occured in Word 2007. * JAWS no longer incorrectly announces indentation information when encountering outdented text, such as in an outline. * Resolved a customer reported issue with the New Lines and Paragraphs Indication option in Quick Settings not changing based on whether paragraph marks are shown or not. When you enable or disable the displaying of paragraph marks in the Word Options dialog box, JAWS automatically sets the New Lines and Paragraphs Indication setting accordingly. * Addressed an issue where style changes were being announced after enabling spelling detection from Quick Settings. * Resolved an issue where Grammatical Error Detection was enabled when turning off Spelling Error Detection in Quick Settings. * Removed references to the Task Pane from the INSERT+F1 help messages for the Quick Access and Status Bar toolbar controls. * Resolved an issue with Quick Settings where changing Style Changes to Always Announce was not turning off the Headings Announce option. * Resolved an issue with the Spanish version of JAWS where JAWS messages containing accented characters were not read correctly in Word. * If you have customized the dot pattern for the braille cursor, addressed an issue where using Track Changes was changing it back to the default setting. * Pressing ALT+DELETE while in a table now provides more accurate cursor position information. * Resolved an issue in Word 2007 with JAWS not properly navigating tables until you used ALT+TAB to move away and back to the document. This occured when opening a document containing tables from Windows Explorer. * Resolved an issue where table navigation commands would no longer work after typing text into a table cell. Mozilla Firefox * The page title is now shown on the braille display when pressing INSERT+T even when you are positioned on a heading. Note that the currently selected heading is included with the title information. This was also addressed in Internet Explorer. * Toggling the Document Automatically Reads check box in Quick Settings now works as expected. When this option is cleared, JAWS will not automatically read the Web page after it loads. Visual Studio * Addressed an issue where you had to press ALT+TAB to move away from the application and back to get focus into the output window after starting a compile. Windows 7 * Addressed an issue encountered after using ALT+TAB to move to the Desktop where JAWS would not announce the count of the selected item, for example, five of eight. Pressing INSERT+T would also not speak the window title. This did not occur if WINDOWS Key+M was used to go to the Desktop. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: More then one JAWS?
T. Civitello
I have versions 11,12,and 13 on my computer. Each one has a different shortcut key; J for 13, F for 12 and W for 11. I will probably drop 11 after a while. Tom
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From: "Dondi" <zidnod63@gmail.com> To: "JAWS mailing list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 6:48 PM Subject: More then one JAWS? Hi,
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More then one JAWS?
Dondi
Hi,
How would I install JAWS 13 while still having version 12 on my computer? I don't understand how you select which one would start up when Windows starts. Where does JAWS start up from? Dondi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20111109/a401ec22/attachment.html>
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Re: jfw update
Soronel Haetir
* Resolved a long-standing issue where it was sometimes
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necessary to reboot the computer in order to use JAWS if the application unexpectedly closed. -- If they've actually got that one fixed I'm going to be very pleased.
On 11/9/11, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@adrianspratt.com> wrote:
Whoops! He signed his name. Duh. But again, thanks for posting. --
Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@gmail.com
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