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Re: Help with menus in Win 10

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

Well, it worked for me when I right arrowed on the phrase that asked if I wanted to open or save. It was then necessary to choose Save or Save As, and perhaps severl other options.

Hope this works for you as well.

Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 1:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Help with menus in Win 10

OK, I have a question here. With this link, like many others, I get this message to I want to open or close button. No matter what I try, I can't manage to get into a link like that. I have tried just hitting Spacebar. I have tabbed around to Options and things. I can't figure what it takes to open the door to a link like this. It does not happen to me with all links, or I would think it was my system or me. It probably has to do with security. Thanks for any suggestion.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Help with menus in Win 10

Sharon,

Here's the link again. I would file a copy of this e-mail so that you have direct "click to download" access if you need it later or want to forward it to share with someone else.




Using the Ribbon Interface in Windows via the Keyboard <https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&;id=0B98uELZbPFnOTUI1dDhDaHpwTk0>
--
Brian

A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

~ William James


Re: Help with menus in Win 10

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

OK, I have a question here. With this link, like many others, I get this message to I want to open or close button. No matter what I try, I can't manage to get into a link like that. I have tried just hitting Spacebar. I have tabbed around to Options and things. I can't figure what it takes to open the door to a link like this. It does not happen to me with all links, or I would think it was my system or me. It probably has to do with security. Thanks for any suggestion.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Help with menus in Win 10

Sharon,

Here's the link again. I would file a copy of this e-mail so that you have direct "click to download" access if you need it later or want to forward it to share with someone else.




Using the Ribbon Interface in Windows via the Keyboard <https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&;id=0B98uELZbPFnOTUI1dDhDaHpwTk0>
--
Brian

A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

~ William James


Re: Help with menus in Win 10

 

Sharon,

           Here's the link again.  I would file a copy of this e-mail so that you have direct "click to download" access if you need it later or want to forward it to share with someone else.


 Using the Ribbon Interface in Windows via the Keyboard
--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James


Re: Help with menus in Win 10

Sharon
 

Brian, can you resend the link, so that those of us who did download it early can go get it again?

I can’t figure out how to get to the group messages.

Sharon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 10:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Help with menus in Win 10

 

Sharon,

           You're welcome.   If you happened to download that document right after seeing the link you might want to download it again.  When I took a quick look I realized that I never did a "short and sweet" cheat sheet arrangement of the most common navigation keystrokes in one place.  They were all buried in the narrative about how to do the navigation in File Explorer.

            I've now added a dedicated section at the end that deals with the primary navigation keystrokes.  If people want to remove the descriptive text that I've included beyond "the nitty gritty function" that list will be even shorter.
--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James


Re: Help with menus in Win 10

brian albriton
 

I'm not fond of the ribbon structure either but compensate for it by keeping a list of keystrokes that I may use on a regular basis., plus some tips about basic ribbon navigation.
These things I usually don't remember so I keep some documents with the navigation tips and keystrokes for easy reference.
After a while of course, some become ingrained into the fingers.
Some of the best tips I've been given on this list. Also, google can be your friend.
Just type what you want to know as a question in google, and you'll get some relevant results.
Google and this list are actually two lobes of my brain.

All the best, Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Help with menus in Win 10

They just take getting used to.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 1:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Help with menus in Win 10

OK, I figured it out... I really really don't like Ribbons!!! :( Guess I had to learn sometime...


Re: Help with menus in Win 10

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

They just take getting used to.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 1:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Help with menus in Win 10

OK, I figured it out... I really really don't like Ribbons!!! :( Guess I had to learn sometime...


WordPress Accessibility Survey for Screen Reader Users

Mark Sanders
 

Hi All
I'm researching WordPress Accessibility for a Masters dissertation at the University of Salford in the UK.

I've created a survey aimed at Screen Reader users.
I'd be very grateful if you have a few minutes for you to complete this survey (and pass it on, perhaps)!


Many thanks
mark


Windows 10: Globally Changing your Folder View in File Explorer Using a Screen Reader

 

I had a request on the Win10 vs Win7 with JAWS topic to document how one can change the view used for files in File Explorer and then make those changes apply globally (or nearly globally).  Thus I present:

I did this work using NVDA because I only have JAWS in 40-minute mode and I knew it was going to take me a lot longer than 40 minutes to put this together and test and retest the steps to make sure I hadn't inadvertently omitted something or typed something incorrectly.  I can't imagine that what JAWS will announce will be much different, and this depends on Windows keyboard shortcuts and common checkbox check/uncheck technique, not anything specific to a given screen reader being used.

--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James


Re: Accessible VPN service

R&J
 

I have been using SurfSolo vended by a German company SecurStar for over a year and find it fully accessible.

It costs around $75.00 U.S. per year and is for one license on one computer.  So, it is a bit pricey; however, it is a high-quality product, works well and adds a few seconds delay for each internet transaction.  This basic version allows you to select from three servers, one in the U.S., one in the Netherlands and one in the United Kingdom.  You can not use it while streaming NetFlix as NetFlix does not allow its stream to go through a VPN and it does not apply to your client-side or server-side e-mail; however, they give you a free secured e-mail address that you can use if you wish.

The set up is a bit tricky, but once set up you will see a SurfSolo icon in the tray.  By clicking the icon, you can start or stop the VPN (which is in stopped status upon system boot), select one of the three servers (one you designate as your default, test the connection and set a few optional parameters.

I have also used SecurStar's Drivecrypt program for more than ten years to create encrypted virtual containers (files) for sensative information.  Once encrypted, I feel perfectly safe to leave the file (virtual disk) on my hard drive.

ron
 




Re: Help with menus in Win 10

 

Sharon,

           You're welcome.   If you happened to download that document right after seeing the link you might want to download it again.  When I took a quick look I realized that I never did a "short and sweet" cheat sheet arrangement of the most common navigation keystrokes in one place.  They were all buried in the narrative about how to do the navigation in File Explorer.

            I've now added a dedicated section at the end that deals with the primary navigation keystrokes.  If people want to remove the descriptive text that I've included beyond "the nitty gritty function" that list will be even shorter.
--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James


Re: Help with menus in Win 10

Sharon
 

Brian, thanks!

Sharon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Help with menus in Win 10

 

Using the Ribbon Interface in Windows via the Keyboard

--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James


Re: Help with menus in Win 10

 

Using the Ribbon Interface in Windows via the Keyboard

--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James


Re: Help with menus in Win 10

Sharon
 

You might want to get the windows ten textbook from Access Technology Institute; it's not cheap, but it's the only thing that got me a bit functional again!
Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 12:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Help with menus in Win 10

OK, If I select group by or sort by I get a list of attributes with checks by them... But I cant deselect items and there isn't a "none" option like in win7. Basicly I don't want items grouped by anything and I only want items sorted by name... And I want items listed in "detail" view ... I am trying to do this in "This PC".


Re: Help with menus in Win 10

Sharon
 

There are no menus anymore; all those darn ribbons!
Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 11:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Help with menus in Win 10

So, I cant get to any of the view menu items other than options... I cant really use the menus at all actually. I am trying to set the folder details for group by, detail view and not to sort by device or category...


Creator's update issue

Gene Stevens
 

My machine attempted to install the Creator’s update over night. It rebooted and is frozen at the 88% mark in the install. It gets to that point each time I restart the machine. How do I stop it from trying to finish the update so I can either reset or retry the update from the beginning?


Re: Quicken question

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

It's a Financial Management package. You can track various types of accounts including: checking, savings, credit card and depending on which version you purchase investment accounts. There is also a version for tracking rental properties. You can categorize transactions and then generate reports on criteria you set. You can also create budgets, although I'm not certain how accessible that feature is.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 6:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Quicken question

I know I could lookk this up online, but what exactly does Quicken do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 3:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Quicken question

John, I've had 2 conversations now with reps from Quicken. I share your optimism that finally accessibility will be addressed. I've waited over 20 years for this to occur, another year won't matter!

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 12:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Quicken question

Quicken has undergone a lot of changes. The 2017 version has just been acquired by a new company other than into it. Work is predicted to start soon on accessibility for this product. It might take some time though. Sit tight.


Re: Accessible VPN service

 

Jonathan Mosen’s “Blind Side” podcast is sponsored by a VPN service he uses and recommends. When I Googled “Jonathan mosen VPN” I found the following:

 

Please support The Blind Side by checking out HMA VPN.

http://www.mosen.org/hma

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Accessible VPN service

 

Hello list,

Haven’t paid this topic much thought, but with the recent rollback in ISPN regulations on privacy, I figured it would be something worth familiarizing myself with to perhaps get one for the house.

The sighted wife uses a VPN on her iPad to watch German language content since she’s from over there, but since she doesn’t have to worry about screen readers and whatnot, I thought I’d ask around on these lists to see what other screen readers and users of mobile devices are using?

Free or paid, it doesn’t matter. Nothing overly complicated if possible and something capable of handling an entire house of connectivity or whatever that may entail. Both my wife and I run our businesses from home and have the standard set up. AC duel channel router, Surfboard modem with 300MB down with TWC etc.

In my case, I’m using JFW 18 on both a laptop and desktop. Along with I-devices with VoiceOver.

Any suggestions on a service or in general what I should pay attention to would be appreciated.

Thanks,

 


Re: Help with menus in Win 10

 

Not much of a choice since I don't see them going away any time soon.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 10:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Help with menus in Win 10

OK, I figured it out... I really really don't like Ribbons!!! :( Guess I had to learn sometime...


Re: Help with menus in Win 10

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

OK, I figured it out... I really really don't like Ribbons!!! :( Guess I had to learn sometime...


Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

IDK... It didn't do it when I upgraded win7 to the Current release of Win 10 1607... It started when I did a clean install of Windows 10 Creators Edition 1703 pre release... I don't remember it doing it back in 2015 when I was beta testing win 10 either... Although I haven't paid win 10 any attention since its original release last year, until now that is.