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Re: Jaws and power point;

 

See the results returned by this DuckDuckGo web search on "JAWS Powerpoint."  This ground has been covered many times, and there's very little that's specific to the 2016 version as opposed to generally applicable to PowerPoint in general.
--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James


Re: Jaws and power point;

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Hello David,

The notice below was in “Flying Blind” this morning. I did not view it, but thought it may be applicable.

Cheers Kevin

This Office Support post is entitled "Make your PowerPoint Presentations Accessible:"

https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Make-your-PowerPoint-presentations-accessible-6f7772b2-2f33-4bd2-8ca7-dae3b2b3ef25?ui=en-US&rs=en-US&ad=US#bkmk_winhidetitle

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: March 30, 2017 7:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and power point;

 

Good morning to all;

Does anyone have a list of keystrokes, and user tips to work with 2016 power point?

A client of mine has a few power point files she would like to read. Obviously, she just needs to access the text within the slides.

Thank you, have a good day.

 

 

       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.

 

 

 

       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.

 


Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

 

Sharon,

           By the way, in answer to your question regarding Documents, I just added the "Date Created" column to the view in Documents, then I took a look at a subfolder before I performed the "Apply to all folders" step I documented last night, and it was not there. which is what I expected.  Then I went back up to Documents and went through those steps answering "Yes" to confirm that I wanted the change to apply to all folders. and now all folders that were using "Details" view now have that column on display.

           There are a few exceptions to this because I have chosen to display select folders in icons view and I have the "remember individual folder view" setting on so if I override my "global master view" on specific folders it will remember this and keep it no matter what I do to my "global master view".

           You might also want to take a quick read through this thread on tenforums and the various step-by-step instructions mentioned.
--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James


Jaws and power point;

david
 

Good morning to all;

Does anyone have a list of keystrokes, and user tips to work with 2016 power point?

A client of mine has a few power point files she would like to read. Obviously, she just needs to access the text within the slides.

Thank you, have a good day.

 

 

       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.

 

 

 

       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.

 


Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

 

Sharon,

           I can't accurately answer your question because I've never tried and never would try to mix media files (e.g., mp3) and other files and expect something like "length", which has no meaning for other files, to be a part of the display.  The very reason for libraries for media files is that one generally wants to have very specific information not applicable to non-media files displaying for media files.

           I did just set up a folder of mixed files with "Length" as a column and the behavior is as I'd expect it to be:  Length is blank for any file type other than a media file.

           But, back to my original suggestion: use SFC and DISM.  Their purpose is to check system file integrity and fix errors found.  Your system is behaving erratically and you should do these steps first, not keep repeating what you've already demonstrated has not been working.  Report back on what messages you get back from SFC and DISM.

           
--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James


Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

Sharon
 

If I go to my documents, and set all folders the same way, shouldn’t it stick?

This is the top level folder, and I want all folders, regardless of contents, to show up the same way,

Title, Date modified,  size, and length for mp3s and mp4s.

Wanted to get clarification and try it once more before checking with the tool you suggested.

Sharon

 

My music, video and picture folders are not in my documents.

I’m trying not to use libraries at all!

Don’t know what is set up though.

 

Sharon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

 

Sharon,

           It's not the folder contents that matter, most of us have "regular folders" (I really can't remember what the correct term is, but these are folders without special properties like the Pictures, Music, Video, and a couple of other Library folder types) that contain various files.

           It sounds to me like you've got something wrong with Win10 itself. Take a look at, Using SFC (System File Checker) and DISM (Deployment Imaging Servicing and Management) to Repair Windows 8 & 10, and give this a try first.  If you get clean SFC and DISM results try resetting your folder view again and see if it sticks. 

           You may not be doing anything wrong and you may have had less than stellar assistance from Microsoft, as tech skill levels do vary.

--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James


Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

 

Sharon,

           It's not the folder contents that matter, most of us have "regular folders" (I really can't remember what the correct term is, but these are folders without special properties like the Pictures, Music, Video, and a couple of other Library folder types) that contain various files.

           It sounds to me like you've got something wrong with Win10 itself. Take a look at, Using SFC (System File Checker) and DISM (Deployment Imaging Servicing and Management) to Repair Windows 8 & 10, and give this a try first.  If you get clean SFC and DISM results try resetting your folder view again and see if it sticks. 

           You may not be doing anything wrong and you may have had less than stellar assistance from Microsoft, as tech skill levels do vary.

--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James


Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

Sharon
 

Brian, what if you have mixed folders? Folders with pdf, docx, mp3 txt rtf all in the same folder?

I keep trying what you have suggested, and it just doesn’t take!

Microsoft accessibility has even set it up and it still doesn’t take!

And they’ve done it repeatedly!

I just can’t figure out what I’m doing wrong.

Sharon

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 11:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

 

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 07:39 pm, Sharon wrote:

I can't get the folder view to be the same across folders; some show detail view; some list view; no consistency as to which columns show!

"Global" control of folder views is not very much different than it has been for decades now and is accessed through the File Explorer Options Dialog, AKA the Folder Options dialog, by invoking it from within File Explorer after you've set the view as you want it for the top level folder under which you'd like all subfolders to appear the same way.

First tweak your view as you'd like it to be at the top level folder that is to be used as the "master view" and where all subfolders under that folder are to look the same.  Hit ALT+V,Y,O  [View Tab/Ribbon, Options Group, Change folder and search options].  In the Options dialog that appears, in the General tab that opens, you can choose whether File Explorer opens with Quick Access at the top of the folder list or This PC in that position.  For those who like the old "My Computer" layout choose "This PC" from the "Open File Explorer to:" dropdown.  Then, since you've already set up the view that you want used as the "master view" in the folder you're working on, activate the View tab and then the Apply to Folders button.  Then you will be presented with a dialog box asking, "Do you want all folders of this type to match this folder's view settings?," and you will activate the "Yes" button if you want your current view applied or "No" if you realize you need to tweak something else.

Note carefully that the question says "folders of this type" so, if you're working on a regular folder this will apply only to regular folders, not those using the Windows conventions for Photos, Music, Videos, etc.  If you want those to be changed you need to repeat this process in a folder of the type you want to use as the "master view" for that type of folder.

I don't have my Windows 7 laptop at hand, but I've dealt with this particular dialog many times over the decades and it still seems very similar, if not identical.
--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James


Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

Sharon
 

This is exactly my question.

I can’t make my changes stick!

Sharon

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 1:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

 

Hi Brian,

 

For some reason I still haven’t figured out how I can change it so a music folder shows me things like file size, file type, date and so on instead of artist, album etc. This is in Windows 10, if you could explain I’d be grateful.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 8:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

 

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 07:39 pm, Sharon wrote:

I can't get the folder view to be the same across folders; some show detail view; some list view; no consistency as to which columns show!

"Global" control of folder views is not very much different than it has been for decades now and is accessed through the File Explorer Options Dialog, AKA the Folder Options dialog, by invoking it from within File Explorer after you've set the view as you want it for the top level folder under which you'd like all subfolders to appear the same way.

First tweak your view as you'd like it to be at the top level folder that is to be used as the "master view" and where all subfolders under that folder are to look the same.  Hit ALT+V,Y,O  [View Tab/Ribbon, Options Group, Change folder and search options].  In the Options dialog that appears, in the General tab that opens, you can choose whether File Explorer opens with Quick Access at the top of the folder list or This PC in that position.  For those who like the old "My Computer" layout choose "This PC" from the "Open File Explorer to:" dropdown.  Then, since you've already set up the view that you want used as the "master view" in the folder you're working on, activate the View tab and then the Apply to Folders button.  Then you will be presented with a dialog box asking, "Do you want all folders of this type to match this folder's view settings?," and you will activate the "Yes" button if you want your current view applied or "No" if you realize you need to tweak something else.

Note carefully that the question says "folders of this type" so, if you're working on a regular folder this will apply only to regular folders, not those using the Windows conventions for Photos, Music, Videos, etc.  If you want those to be changed you need to repeat this process in a folder of the type you want to use as the "master view" for that type of folder.

I don't have my Windows 7 laptop at hand, but I've dealt with this particular dialog many times over the decades and it still seems very similar, if not identical.
--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James


Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

Jonas Voll
 

I have created a Windows 10 tutorial hear!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDqWEOzsNcc

And this one shows how you can install Windows 10 using nothing but Windows Narrator!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YisbQGCa7nU

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 12:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

Many shortcut keys are the same, but below is a link to a website with many shortcut keys for Windows. Of course the start menu does look different, but you still have the desktop, taskbar and system tray. I'm sure there are Windows 10 tutorials, but I'm not totally sure where to find them. Here is the website with the list of shortcut keys, use "t" to find the table, it's a simple layout, key combination on the left and explanation on the right:
http://www.windowscentral.com/best-windows-10-keyboard-shortcuts

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of turab chimthanawala
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 8:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

Hi Sieghard
I have been using Win 7 all this while. But recently went in for a new laptop which has Win 10 configured in it by default. It feels quite different and confusing. Could you share some shortcut keys etc. to get better acclaimatised with it.
Thanks in anticipation
Best
Turab

On 3/30/17, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
The accessibility is very good and while I like how a few things work
in Windows 7, I also like how some things work in Windows 10 and
overall I think Windows 10 is a much better OS. I have Windows 10 on
my laptop and still use Windows 7 on all my desktops at work, mostly
because I just don't have the time to upgrade them right now. I would
not run Windows 7 on a new computer any more, there just is no point.
It will still be around a few years from now, but we all know it will
go away at some point and you might as well get used to Windows 10.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

I was hoping for some feedback from actual users of both OS'sas to
there
preference: Win 10 or Win7? I tried Win 10 win it was first released
and didn't like it... I don't have an extra pc right now to test it on
so before I take the plunge and upgrade my main PC I was hoping to get
your feedback on its accessibility with Jaws 18.












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Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

Jason White
 

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
The accessibility is very good and while I like how a few things work in
Windows 7, I also like how some things work in Windows 10 and overall I
think Windows 10 is a much better OS.
I'm experiencing fewer crashes and fewer instances of unresponsive programs
under Windows 10 than I did with a Windows 7 machine. I don't know to what
extent the OS is responsible; I know some of the problems were JAWS bugs.

Windows 10 is quite responsive for me, but I'm running it on a laptop with a
fast CPU, 16GB of memory and an SSD.


Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

Peter Tesar
 

Hello,

I was using Win 10 and Jaws 18, for over a year, since it first came out. I didn't like the freezing.

Frequently, Jaws would freeze. There was silence for a few seconds, sometimes 10 to 20 seconds. This was too much waiting for me.

I went back to Win 7 and Jaws 18, since January. I prefer Win 7 for now. It is very responsive.

Occasionally I use my other laptop (with Win 10 Professional) to maintain updates. It still is less responsive so I will continue using Win 7.

I know that we will all have to move to Win 10 and I am hoping the Win 10 responsiveness will improve in the coming months.

Peter T.

On 3/29/2017 10:51 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
The accessibility is very good and while I like how a few things work in Windows 7, I also like how some things work in Windows 10 and overall I think Windows 10 is a much better OS. I have Windows 10 on my laptop and still use Windows 7 on all my desktops at work, mostly because I just don't have the time to upgrade them right now. I would not run Windows 7 on a new computer any more, there just is no point. It will still be around a few years from now, but we all know it will go away at some point and you might as well get used to Windows 10.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

I was hoping for some feedback from actual users of both OS'sas to there preference: Win 10 or Win7? I tried Win 10 win it was first released and didn't like it... I don't have an extra pc right now to test it on so before I take the plunge and upgrade my main PC I was hoping to get your feedback on its accessibility with Jaws 18.





Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

turab chimthanawala
 

Thanks a lot

On 3/30/17, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
Many shortcut keys are the same, but below is a link to a website with many
shortcut keys for Windows. Of course the start menu does look different, but
you still have the desktop, taskbar and system tray. I'm sure there are
Windows 10 tutorials, but I'm not totally sure where to find them. Here is
the website with the list of shortcut keys, use "t" to find the table, it's
a simple layout, key combination on the left and explanation on the right:
http://www.windowscentral.com/best-windows-10-keyboard-shortcuts

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of turab
chimthanawala
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 8:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

Hi Sieghard
I have been using Win 7 all this while. But recently went in for a new
laptop which has Win 10 configured in it by default. It feels quite
different and confusing. Could you share some shortcut keys etc. to get
better acclaimatised with it.
Thanks in anticipation
Best
Turab

On 3/30/17, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
The accessibility is very good and while I like how a few things work
in Windows 7, I also like how some things work in Windows 10 and
overall I think Windows 10 is a much better OS. I have Windows 10 on
my laptop and still use Windows 7 on all my desktops at work, mostly
because I just don't have the time to upgrade them right now. I would
not run Windows 7 on a new computer any more, there just is no point.
It will still be around a few years from now, but we all know it will
go away at some point and you might as well get used to Windows 10.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

I was hoping for some feedback from actual users of both OS'sas to
there
preference: Win 10 or Win7? I tried Win 10 win it was first released
and didn't like it... I don't have an extra pc right now to test it on
so before I take the plunge and upgrade my main PC I was hoping to get
your feedback on its accessibility with Jaws 18.












Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

 

Many shortcut keys are the same, but below is a link to a website with many shortcut keys for Windows. Of course the start menu does look different, but you still have the desktop, taskbar and system tray. I'm sure there are Windows 10 tutorials, but I'm not totally sure where to find them. Here is the website with the list of shortcut keys, use "t" to find the table, it's a simple layout, key combination on the left and explanation on the right:
http://www.windowscentral.com/best-windows-10-keyboard-shortcuts

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of turab chimthanawala
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 8:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

Hi Sieghard
I have been using Win 7 all this while. But recently went in for a new laptop which has Win 10 configured in it by default. It feels quite different and confusing. Could you share some shortcut keys etc. to get better acclaimatised with it.
Thanks in anticipation
Best
Turab

On 3/30/17, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
The accessibility is very good and while I like how a few things work
in Windows 7, I also like how some things work in Windows 10 and
overall I think Windows 10 is a much better OS. I have Windows 10 on
my laptop and still use Windows 7 on all my desktops at work, mostly
because I just don't have the time to upgrade them right now. I would
not run Windows 7 on a new computer any more, there just is no point.
It will still be around a few years from now, but we all know it will
go away at some point and you might as well get used to Windows 10.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

I was hoping for some feedback from actual users of both OS'sas to
there
preference: Win 10 or Win7? I tried Win 10 win it was first released
and didn't like it... I don't have an extra pc right now to test it on
so before I take the plunge and upgrade my main PC I was hoping to get
your feedback on its accessibility with Jaws 18.







Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

 

Hi Brian,

 

For some reason I still haven’t figured out how I can change it so a music folder shows me things like file size, file type, date and so on instead of artist, album etc. This is in Windows 10, if you could explain I’d be grateful.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 8:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

 

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 07:39 pm, Sharon wrote:

I can't get the folder view to be the same across folders; some show detail view; some list view; no consistency as to which columns show!

"Global" control of folder views is not very much different than it has been for decades now and is accessed through the File Explorer Options Dialog, AKA the Folder Options dialog, by invoking it from within File Explorer after you've set the view as you want it for the top level folder under which you'd like all subfolders to appear the same way.

First tweak your view as you'd like it to be at the top level folder that is to be used as the "master view" and where all subfolders under that folder are to look the same.  Hit ALT+V,Y,O  [View Tab/Ribbon, Options Group, Change folder and search options].  In the Options dialog that appears, in the General tab that opens, you can choose whether File Explorer opens with Quick Access at the top of the folder list or This PC in that position.  For those who like the old "My Computer" layout choose "This PC" from the "Open File Explorer to:" dropdown.  Then, since you've already set up the view that you want used as the "master view" in the folder you're working on, activate the View tab and then the Apply to Folders button.  Then you will be presented with a dialog box asking, "Do you want all folders of this type to match this folder's view settings?," and you will activate the "Yes" button if you want your current view applied or "No" if you realize you need to tweak something else.

Note carefully that the question says "folders of this type" so, if you're working on a regular folder this will apply only to regular folders, not those using the Windows conventions for Photos, Music, Videos, etc.  If you want those to be changed you need to repeat this process in a folder of the type you want to use as the "master view" for that type of folder.

I don't have my Windows 7 laptop at hand, but I've dealt with this particular dialog many times over the decades and it still seems very similar, if not identical.
--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James


Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

 

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 07:39 pm, Sharon wrote:
I can't get the folder view to be the same across folders; some show detail view; some list view; no consistency as to which columns show!

"Global" control of folder views is not very much different than it has been for decades now and is accessed through the File Explorer Options Dialog, AKA the Folder Options dialog, by invoking it from within File Explorer after you've set the view as you want it for the top level folder under which you'd like all subfolders to appear the same way.

First tweak your view as you'd like it to be at the top level folder that is to be used as the "master view" and where all subfolders under that folder are to look the same.  Hit ALT+V,Y,O  [View Tab/Ribbon, Options Group, Change folder and search options].  In the Options dialog that appears, in the General tab that opens, you can choose whether File Explorer opens with Quick Access at the top of the folder list or This PC in that position.  For those who like the old "My Computer" layout choose "This PC" from the "Open File Explorer to:" dropdown.  Then, since you've already set up the view that you want used as the "master view" in the folder you're working on, activate the View tab and then the Apply to Folders button.  Then you will be presented with a dialog box asking, "Do you want all folders of this type to match this folder's view settings?," and you will activate the "Yes" button if you want your current view applied or "No" if you realize you need to tweak something else.

Note carefully that the question says "folders of this type" so, if you're working on a regular folder this will apply only to regular folders, not those using the Windows conventions for Photos, Music, Videos, etc.  If you want those to be changed you need to repeat this process in a folder of the type you want to use as the "master view" for that type of folder.

I don't have my Windows 7 laptop at hand, but I've dealt with this particular dialog many times over the decades and it still seems very similar, if not identical.
--
Brian

         A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

                  ~ William James


Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

turab chimthanawala
 

Hi Sieghard
I have been using Win 7 all this while. But recently went in for a new laptop
which has Win 10 configured in it by default. It feels quite different
and confusing. Could you share some shortcut keys etc. to get better
acclaimatised with it.
Thanks in anticipation
Best
Turab

On 3/30/17, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
The accessibility is very good and while I like how a few things work in
Windows 7, I also like how some things work in Windows 10 and overall I
think Windows 10 is a much better OS. I have Windows 10 on my laptop and
still use Windows 7 on all my desktops at work, mostly because I just don't
have the time to upgrade them right now. I would not run Windows 7 on a new
computer any more, there just is no point. It will still be around a few
years from now, but we all know it will go away at some point and you might
as well get used to Windows 10.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy
Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

I was hoping for some feedback from actual users of both OS'sas to there
preference: Win 10 or Win7? I tried Win 10 win it was first released and
didn't like it... I don't have an extra pc right now to test it on so before
I take the plunge and upgrade my main PC I was hoping to get your feedback
on its accessibility with Jaws 18.







Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

 

The accessibility is very good and while I like how a few things work in Windows 7, I also like how some things work in Windows 10 and overall I think Windows 10 is a much better OS. I have Windows 10 on my laptop and still use Windows 7 on all my desktops at work, mostly because I just don't have the time to upgrade them right now. I would not run Windows 7 on a new computer any more, there just is no point. It will still be around a few years from now, but we all know it will go away at some point and you might as well get used to Windows 10.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

I was hoping for some feedback from actual users of both OS'sas to there preference: Win 10 or Win7? I tried Win 10 win it was first released and didn't like it... I don't have an extra pc right now to test it on so before I take the plunge and upgrade my main PC I was hoping to get your feedback on its accessibility with Jaws 18.


Re: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

Sharon
 

Windows 10:
It's okay. I don't like ribbons, and even windows explorer has them now! I can't get the folder view to be the same across folders; some show detail view; some list view; no consistency as to which columns show! Cathy Ann Murtha's textbook has helped a lot, but I still struggle with this ribbon thing.
I do like being able to go to a web site with a hot key.
But I miss Windows 7.
Oh well, had to upgrade at some point!
Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

I was hoping for some feedback from actual users of both OS'sas to there preference: Win 10 or Win7? I tried Win 10 win it was first released and didn't like it... I don't have an extra pc right now to test it on so before I take the plunge and upgrade my main PC I was hoping to get your feedback on its accessibility with Jaws 18.


Win 10 vs Win7 with Jaws

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

I was hoping for some feedback from actual users of both OS'sas to there preference: Win 10 or Win7? I tried Win 10 win it was first released and didn't like it... I don't have an extra pc right now to test it on so before I take the plunge and upgrade my main PC I was hoping to get your feedback on its accessibility with Jaws 18.