Date   

Re: opening jpegs

 

Sandra,

         You've already received great advice to which I'm going to add a bit.  If someone is sending you an image scan of a brochure you might want to ask them whether they can scan it as a PDF instead to begin with.  If I'm scanning something that is not a pure image, that is, a photograph, I always PDF scan it with the OCR option on my scanner so that the document is searchable on Windows and readable by screen readers.

           If this is not an option then I echo the advice that you will want to save this image as a PDF via the converter mechanism of your choice and then run OCR processing on the resulting PDF file.  I have found that Tracker Software's PDF XChange Viewer or PDF XChange Editor, while not 100% accessible for all functions, are 100% accessible for OCR processing image PDFs.  Here are the instructions for doing so if you install either one:


Using PDF XChange Viewer to perform OCR on any PDF you receive that is an image PDF, step-by-step:

1.     Open PDF XChange Viewer from your start menu.

2.     Hit ALT+F,O to bring up the file open browsing dialog.

3.     Hit ALT+I to jump directly to the Look In combo box

4.     Hit down arrow to get into the area that’s somewhat, but not exactly, like the tree view in Windows Explorer.

5.     Hit L until you hear, “Libraries,” announced.

6.     Hit TAB two times, you should hear, “Documents”.

7.     Hit SPACEBAR to select the Documents library.

8.     Hit ENTER to open the documents library.

9.     Hit the first character of the folder or file name you’re trying to perform OCR on. Keep doing this with the first character until you hear its name announced.

10.                        Hit Enter to open the file or folder.  If you’re dealing with a file at this step go straight to step 11.  Otherwise, do the following

a.     If you know the file is in this folder then use the “hit the first character” technique to locate it and jump to step 11 once you have.

b.     If you need to drill down another folder level go back to step 9.

11.                        Hit ALT+O to open the file in PDF XChange Viewer.

12.                        Hit CTRL+SHIFT+C to open the OCR dialog box.  Immediately hit ENTER to initiate the OCR processing.  The length of time this takes depends on the size of the file being processed.  JAWS does not read the processing status box, but will announce the file’s name with star after it when the processing completes.  That’s how you’ll know it’s done.

13.                        Hit ALT+F,S to save the file and its OCR text into the original file itself.

14.                        Hit ALT+F4 to close PDF XChange Viewer.

--
Brian

     A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

    ~ Saul BellowTo Jerusalem and Back


Take Command

Dennis Brown
 

Does anyone use Take Command command processor from JP Soft.com?
I used their 4DOS and 4NT command processors for years, but with TC v2.0, I can’t figure out navigating the help system.
When I use the Jaws Cursor, the system hangs for about a minute or so—just as it does when invoking Dictionary Manager in IE.
Using Jaws 18 on Windows 7.
Thanks,
Dennis


tablet recommendations

Alicia Starner <astarner@...>
 

Hello All,

I am considering the purchase of a tablet computer and wondered if anyone on the list has used a tablet computer with JAWS. I am specifically looking for a computer that can run Microsoft Office 365 applications and works efficiently and nicely with JAWS. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Alicia


Re: opening jpegs

Jordana Engebretsen
 

Hi Sandra,

Jaws OCR open a lot of door for me.  You press Insert key or Jaws key plus space bar, then press O for OCR, then start the OCR process pressing the letter D. 

Hope it helps,

Jordana   

 

Jordana Engebretsen

Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired, TVI, MA

907-714-8951

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: opening jpegs

 

Plus, haven’t used OCR ever... I really want to forward it to some people, and would like to have just the attachment and not the main body of the email, for those I plan to send it to. So, backtracking a bit, how do I bring up JAWS OCR?

 

 

 

Sandra

Not “Revelation” – tis – that waits
But our unfurnished eyes –
(Emily Dickinson)

 

From: Mike Ulrich

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:53 PM

Subject: Re: opening jpegs

 

If it’s a regular attachment in an email, you should be able to shift tab up, from the message body, then right arrow over to the attached .jpg image. Click on that and the pic should come up on screen. Then you might be able to bring up the JAWS OCR and hopefully it’ll read it to you?

 

I haven’t tried any of the above  yet, I usually just print up the .jpg, and then scan it on my scanner through Open Book.

This works, but it’s a royal PITA!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: opening jpegs

 

Hello, everyone,

 

I have a jpeg of a marketing brochure that I can’t open. Would JAWS be able to read that once it is open? Any suggestions for opening, then reading, it??

 

 

Sandra

Not “Revelation” – tis – that waits
But our unfurnished eyes –
(Emily Dickinson)

 

 


Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

Sandra Streeter
 

Love your subject line! Had to Google it to remind myself of where it came from.
 
 
 
Sandra

Not “Revelation” – tis – that waits
But our unfurnished eyes –
(Emily Dickinson)
 

From: Alyssa
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."
 

I will once I have my win7 laptop back. I want to make sure it’s not a program compatibility issue with MS office 10 first.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 6:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

 

That's exactly what you need to report to FS. It manifests itself in a number of different scenarios. Tell FS your scenario so they can check it out and add to the list.

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Alyssa

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 14:44

Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

 

I’m not having issues with that in particular. However, 18 seems to freeze up for about 30 seconds within applications at times.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Mitchell
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

 

Hi All, With apologies to Stephen  Stills, it seems that with the latest JAWS 18 and Windows 7, I am experiencing frequent freezing when I change focus between applications.

I’m wondering if others have noticed this and I am also looking for tips to do some more trouble-shooting as I am without a clue as to what is actually happening.  I have to totally shut down and reboot to get back into operation and there must be a better way to resume my tasks.  Thanks for any ideas.  Mitch

 

Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:

Q:  When he went, had you gone and had she, if she wanted to and were
    able, for the time being excluding all the restraints on her not to
    go, gone also, would he have brought you, meaning you and she, with
    him to the station?
MR. BROOKS:  Objection.  That question should be taken out and shot.

 




Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

Alyssa <lyssassong@...>
 

I will once I have my win7 laptop back. I want to make sure it’s not a program compatibility issue with MS office 10 first.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 6:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

 

That's exactly what you need to report to FS. It manifests itself in a number of different scenarios. Tell FS your scenario so they can check it out and add to the list.

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Alyssa

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 14:44

Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

 

I’m not having issues with that in particular. However, 18 seems to freeze up for about 30 seconds within applications at times.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Mitchell
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

 

Hi All, With apologies to Stephen  Stills, it seems that with the latest JAWS 18 and Windows 7, I am experiencing frequent freezing when I change focus between applications.

I’m wondering if others have noticed this and I am also looking for tips to do some more trouble-shooting as I am without a clue as to what is actually happening.  I have to totally shut down and reboot to get back into operation and there must be a better way to resume my tasks.  Thanks for any ideas.  Mitch

 

Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:

Q:  When he went, had you gone and had she, if she wanted to and were
    able, for the time being excluding all the restraints on her not to
    go, gone also, would he have brought you, meaning you and she, with
    him to the station?
MR. BROOKS:  Objection.  That question should be taken out and shot.

 


Re: driving a pc using the braille display:

Maria Kristic
 

It is dot 3. So dots 3-8 CHORD simulates the CTRL key. Take a look at the “Braille Display Input Commands” topic in JAWS help for more input on driving your PC from your Focus…

 

Regards,

Maria

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 5:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: driving a pc using the braille display:

 

Hi I have a focus44 braille display, and I tried holding down dot 8-chord and I pressed dot 2 for control then I released the keys and I pressed the letter s and it is recognizing dot2 as the insert key. So what key would I use on the focus44 to simulate the control key? If it is not supported, will I need to purchase a focus40 blue?

Kenny Peyatt jr.


Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

Tim Ford
 

I fought a long time about switching to Windows 10.  I was finally forced to recently, having to retire that Windows 7 32 bit laptop that had become so slow.  It was the cheapest for me to buy a popular new laptop running Windows 10, as contrasted with a special order laptop running the older Windows 7 operating system.  In general, I do not like Windows 10, but as I learn more about it, I feel better, and assume I will be at the same point where I got over my love of XP and was comfortable with Windows 7. 

 

Tim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

 

Tim,

 

Yep. Exactly what I have been experiencing with JAWS 17 and 18. Very irritating, especially that FS fails to acknowledge it as being a problem. Oh, yes of course it's nice that it plays well wit Windows 10, but I don't have Windows 10 and unless I'm mistaken, JAWS 18 will still support Windows 7. So they have done something to JAWS 17 and onward that they cannot admit or acknowledge, and we continue to suffer or use JAWS 16 to have some practical responsive screen reading.

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Tim Ford

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 14:46

Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

 

Hi Folks,

 

I got curious on when I first reported this sluggishness issue to Freedom Scientific; it was back in June, see below.  The FS suggestion was to do a JAWS repair.  I did that several times, uninstalling, reinstalling, everything I could think of.  When I would first use JAWS after the repair/install, things would work fine for a day or so, then the sluggishness would start to come back, and get steadily worse as time went on.  Since then, I have moved on to a Windows 10 64 bit machine, and running JAWS 17, so far I have not had the problem return except for perhaps an occasional minor short delay.

 

So for anyone who is interested, here is what I wrote back in June of last year.

 

Tim Ford

 


Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 6:15 PM
To: VFO Technical Support <support@...>
Subject: JAWS 17, "unknown script called", sluggish browser action.

 

Dear Support,

 

I have JAWS 17, latest build, serial #18178, running Windows 7 Pro 32 bit, with 6 GB of RAM.

 

Starting about 3 updates ago under JAWS 17, I began to experience very slow and sluggish response when in IE or Firefox, and after pressing either the insert f7, insert f5, or control f commands.  The text of the browser page goes silent for perhaps 10-15 seconds.  if I try the command again before it fully executes, JAWS says “unknown script called for ...” the ... filled in with the name of the command I had just entered, e.g. links list, find command 

 

Everything else on my computer is working fine.  So far, I have tried a complete uninstall of JAWS and a reinstall, but the sluggish action continues.  It happens on every web site, even those with only a very few links.  These are all web sites I have visited often, and all of them now suffer the same slow action as described above.

 

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

 

Sincerely,

Timothy Ford

JAWS Serial #18178

s

From: Tim Ford [mailto:ttford@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: RE: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

 

Hi Folks,

 

This lag is something that seemed to have hit me ahead of most everyone else, but it has now apparently spread.  It became so bad on my old Windows 7 laptop that I uninstalled 17 and 18 and went back to 16.  On my new Windows 10 64 bit laptop, running JAWS 17, the lag has been much less pronounced and short in duration.  Back when the problem first hit me months ago, I felt that I must be losing it since nobody else seemed to be having what I knew would be very noticeable.  So now it seems that the problem eventually hits everybody.  Has Freedom Scientific admitted yet that this problem exists?

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:43 PM
To: main@...
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

 

Mitch,

 

Stephen says "Stop!" Saying "What's that sound?" And no, no particular issues with this latest build of JAWS 18. But...I have noticed with both JAWS 17 and 18, all iterations, that there is a significant hesitancy when invoking the JAWS find when in Internet Explorer or Firefox. A latency of almost 30 seconds at times. Very irritating, and until it gets back to normal, I use JAWS 16 99% of the time.

 

Also happens when going to the Systems Tray and even ResearchIt. It's almost like JAWS is having to clear out some background processing before it can respond to that command.

 

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:55

Subject: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

 

Hi All, With apologies to Stephen  Stills, it seems that with the latest JAWS 18 and Windows 7, I am experiencing frequent freezing when I change focus between applications.

I’m wondering if others have noticed this and I am also looking for tips to do some more trouble-shooting as I am without a clue as to what is actually happening.  I have to totally shut down and reboot to get back into operation and there must be a better way to resume my tasks.  Thanks for any ideas.  Mitch

 

Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:

Q:  When he went, had you gone and had she, if she wanted to and were
    able, for the time being excluding all the restraints on her not to
    go, gone also, would he have brought you, meaning you and she, with
    him to the station?
MR. BROOKS:  Objection.  That question should be taken out and shot.

 


jaws 18 lagging badly

marvin hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

Hi. Jaws 18 lags, and have to press windows m, repeatedly , for about 30 seconds. Using jaws 18 latest build, windows 10 64 bit.

On a Toshiba satellite pro laptop.

And also fs needs to fix the win mail app, or improve accessibility, like it does not go to the next message automatically. Should have keyboard short cuts, like have to tab to all accounts, got three accounts, and then space bar, then arrow down. Pity, it could not be a desktop app. Have given feedback to Microsoft. Marvin.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

Dave...
 


Dennis,
 
Report this to FS so they can get it fixed. Thanks for sharing your particular symptom.
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 15:00
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

Dave,
It started with me in 18 and IE.  Whenever I invoke the Dictionary Manager, it can take up to 30 seconds to talk.  Wonder what is on the screen? 
Dennis
 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here What it is ain't exactly clear."
 
Dave, I’ll do just that now that I know there are Fellow Travelers out there.  Mitch
 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here What it is ain't exactly clear."
 
Mitch,
 
Just let FS know via
 
 
They need to know this is a systemic problem across specific user platforms.
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 13:57
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here What it is ain't exactly clear."
 
Dave,  Thanks and your explanation mirrors more of the issues I am experiencing.
And not knowing what is happening, my impatience is likely compounding the problem.
But what’s a new version of JAWS without some new mysteries to ponder.  Rock on, Mitch
 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here What it is ain't exactly clear."
 
Mitch,
 
Stephen says "Stop!" Saying "What's that sound?" And no, no particular issues with this latest build of JAWS 18. But...I have noticed with both JAWS 17 and 18, all iterations, that there is a significant hesitancy when invoking the JAWS find when in Internet Explorer or Firefox A latency of almost 30 seconds at times. Very irritating, and until it gets back to normal, I use JAWS 16 99% of the time.
 
Also happens when going to the Systems Tray and even ResearchIt. It's almost like JAWS is having to clear out some background processing before it can respond to that command.
 
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:55
Subject: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."
 
Hi All, With apologies to Stephen  Stills, it seems that with the latest JAWS 18 and Windows 7, I am experiencing frequent freezing when I change focus between applications.
I’m wondering if others have noticed this and I am also looking for tips to do some more trouble-shooting as I am without a clue as to what is actually happening.  I have to totally shut down and reboot to get back into operation and there must be a better way to resume my tasks.  Thanks for any ideas.  Mitch
 

Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:

Q:  When he went, had you gone and had she, if she wanted to and were
    able, for the time being excluding all the restraints on her not to
    go, gone also, would he have brought you, meaning you and she, with
    him to the station?
MR. BROOKS:  Objection.  That question should be taken out and shot.

 


Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

Dave...
 


Tim,
 
Yep. Exactly what I have been experiencing with JAWS 17 and 18. Very irritating, especially that FS fails to acknowledge it as being a problem. Oh, yes of course it's nice that it plays well wit Windows 10, but I don't have Windows 10 and unless I'm mistaken, JAWS 18 will still support Windows 7. So they have done something to JAWS 17 and onward that they cannot admit or acknowledge, and we continue to suffer or use JAWS 16 to have some practical responsive screen reading.
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Ford
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 14:46
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

Hi Folks,

 

I got curious on when I first reported this sluggishness issue to Freedom Scientific; it was back in June, see below.  The FS suggestion was to do a JAWS repair.  I did that several times, uninstalling, reinstalling, everything I could think of.  When I would first use JAWS after the repair/install, things would work fine for a day or so, then the sluggishness would start to come back, and get steadily worse as time went on.  Since then, I have moved on to a Windows 10 64 bit machine, and running JAWS 17, so far I have not had the problem return except for perhaps an occasional minor short delay.

 

So for anyone who is interested, here is what I wrote back in June of last year.

 

Tim Ford


Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 6:15 PM
To: VFO Technical Support <support@...>
Subject: JAWS 17, "unknown script called", sluggish browser action.

 

Dear Support,

 

I have JAWS 17, latest build, serial #18178, running Windows 7 Pro 32 bit, with 6 GB of RAM.

 

Starting about 3 updates ago under JAWS 17, I began to experience very slow and sluggish response when in IE or Firefox, and after pressing either the insert f7, insert f5, or control f commands.  The text of the browser page goes silent for perhaps 10-15 seconds.  if I try the command again before it fully executes, JAWS says “unknown script called for ...” the ... filled in with the name of the command I had just entered, e.g. links list, find command 

 

Everything else on my computer is working fine.  So far, I have tried a complete uninstall of JAWS and a reinstall, but the sluggish action continues.  It happens on every web site, even those with only a very few links.  These are all web sites I have visited often, and all of them now suffer the same slow action as described above.

 

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

 

Sincerely,

Timothy Ford

JAWS Serial #18178

s

From: Tim Ford [mailto:ttford@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: RE: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

 

Hi Folks,

 

This lag is something that seemed to have hit me ahead of most everyone else, but it has now apparently spread.  It became so bad on my old Windows 7 laptop that I uninstalled 17 and 18 and went back to 16.  On my new Windows 10 64 bit laptop, running JAWS 17, the lag has been much less pronounced and short in duration.  Back when the problem first hit me months ago, I felt that I must be losing it since nobody else seemed to be having what I knew would be very noticeable.  So now it seems that the problem eventually hits everybody.  Has Freedom Scientific admitted yet that this problem exists?

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:43 PM
To: main@...
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

 

Mitch,

 

Stephen says "Stop!" Saying "What's that sound?" And no, no particular issues with this latest build of JAWS 18. But...I have noticed with both JAWS 17 and 18, all iterations, that there is a significant hesitancy when invoking the JAWS find when in Internet Explorer or Firefox. A latency of almost 30 seconds at times. Very irritating, and until it gets back to normal, I use JAWS 16 99% of the time.

 

Also happens when going to the Systems Tray and even ResearchIt. It's almost like JAWS is having to clear out some background processing before it can respond to that command.

 

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:55

Subject: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

 

Hi All, With apologies to Stephen  Stills, it seems that with the latest JAWS 18 and Windows 7, I am experiencing frequent freezing when I change focus between applications.

I’m wondering if others have noticed this and I am also looking for tips to do some more trouble-shooting as I am without a clue as to what is actually happening.  I have to totally shut down and reboot to get back into operation and there must be a better way to resume my tasks.  Thanks for any ideas.  Mitch

 

Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:

Q:  When he went, had you gone and had she, if she wanted to and were
    able, for the time being excluding all the restraints on her not to
    go, gone also, would he have brought you, meaning you and she, with
    him to the station?
MR. BROOKS:  Objection.  That question should be taken out and shot.

 


Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

Dave...
 


That's exactly what you need to report to FS. It manifests itself in a number of different scenarios. Tell FS your scenario so they can check it out and add to the list.
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Alyssa
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 14:44
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

I’m not having issues with that in particular. However, 18 seems to freeze up for about 30 seconds within applications at times.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Mitchell
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

 

Hi All, With apologies to Stephen  Stills, it seems that with the latest JAWS 18 and Windows 7, I am experiencing frequent freezing when I change focus between applications.

I’m wondering if others have noticed this and I am also looking for tips to do some more trouble-shooting as I am without a clue as to what is actually happening.  I have to totally shut down and reboot to get back into operation and there must be a better way to resume my tasks.  Thanks for any ideas.  Mitch

 

Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:

Q:  When he went, had you gone and had she, if she wanted to and were
    able, for the time being excluding all the restraints on her not to
    go, gone also, would he have brought you, meaning you and she, with
    him to the station?
MR. BROOKS:  Objection.  That question should be taken out and shot.

 


Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

Dennis Brown
 

Dave,
It started with me in 18 and IE.  Whenever I invoke the Dictionary Manager, it can take up to 30 seconds to talk.  Wonder what is on the screen? 
Dennis
 

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."
 
Dave, I’ll do just that now that I know there are Fellow Travelers out there.  Mitch
 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."
 
Mitch,
 
Just let FS know via
 
 
They need to know this is a systemic problem across specific user platforms.
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 13:57
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."
 
Dave,  Thanks and your explanation mirrors more of the issues I am experiencing.
And not knowing what is happening, my impatience is likely compounding the problem.
But what’s a new version of JAWS without some new mysteries to ponder.  Rock on, Mitch
 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here What it is ain't exactly clear."
 
Mitch,
 
Stephen says "Stop!" Saying "What's that sound?" And no, no particular issues with this latest build of JAWS 18. But...I have noticed with both JAWS 17 and 18, all iterations, that there is a significant hesitancy when invoking the JAWS find when in Internet Explorer or Firefox A latency of almost 30 seconds at times. Very irritating, and until it gets back to normal, I use JAWS 16 99% of the time.
 
Also happens when going to the Systems Tray and even ResearchIt. It's almost like JAWS is having to clear out some background processing before it can respond to that command.
 
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:55
Subject: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."
 
Hi All, With apologies to Stephen  Stills, it seems that with the latest JAWS 18 and Windows 7, I am experiencing frequent freezing when I change focus between applications.
I’m wondering if others have noticed this and I am also looking for tips to do some more trouble-shooting as I am without a clue as to what is actually happening.  I have to totally shut down and reboot to get back into operation and there must be a better way to resume my tasks.  Thanks for any ideas.  Mitch
 

Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:

Q:  When he went, had you gone and had she, if she wanted to and were
    able, for the time being excluding all the restraints on her not to
    go, gone also, would he have brought you, meaning you and she, with
    him to the station?
MR. BROOKS:  Objection.  That question should be taken out and shot.

 


free jaws freindly rss reader windows 10

marvin hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

Hi. Using a rss reader, called sharp reader, from http://www.sharpreader.net. But not reading or accepting a couple of feeds, and one other feeds, does not show me all the feeds, only latest one. So does any one can recommend a free, jaws friendly rss feed.

Thanks.

Marvin.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

Tim Ford
 

Hi Folks,

 

I got curious on when I first reported this sluggishness issue to Freedom Scientific; it was back in June, see below.  The FS suggestion was to do a JAWS repair.  I did that several times, uninstalling, reinstalling, everything I could think of.  When I would first use JAWS after the repair/install, things would work fine for a day or so, then the sluggishness would start to come back, and get steadily worse as time went on.  Since then, I have moved on to a Windows 10 64 bit machine, and running JAWS 17, so far I have not had the problem return except for perhaps an occasional minor short delay.

 

So for anyone who is interested, here is what I wrote back in June of last year.

 

Tim Ford


Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 6:15 PM
To: VFO Technical Support <support@...>
Subject: JAWS 17, "unknown script called", sluggish browser action.

 

Dear Support,

 

I have JAWS 17, latest build, serial #18178, running Windows 7 Pro 32 bit, with 6 GB of RAM.

 

Starting about 3 updates ago under JAWS 17, I began to experience very slow and sluggish response when in IE or Firefox, and after pressing either the insert f7, insert f5, or control f commands.  The text of the browser page goes silent for perhaps 10-15 seconds.  if I try the command again before it fully executes, JAWS says “unknown script called for ...” the ... filled in with the name of the command I had just entered, e.g. links list, find command. 

 

Everything else on my computer is working fine.  So far, I have tried a complete uninstall of JAWS and a reinstall, but the sluggish action continues.  It happens on every web site, even those with only a very few links.  These are all web sites I have visited often, and all of them now suffer the same slow action as described above.

 

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

 

Sincerely,

Timothy Ford

JAWS Serial #18178

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From: Tim Ford [mailto:ttford@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: RE: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

 

Hi Folks,

 

This lag is something that seemed to have hit me ahead of most everyone else, but it has now apparently spread.  It became so bad on my old Windows 7 laptop that I uninstalled 17 and 18 and went back to 16.  On my new Windows 10 64 bit laptop, running JAWS 17, the lag has been much less pronounced and short in duration.  Back when the problem first hit me months ago, I felt that I must be losing it since nobody else seemed to be having what I knew would be very noticeable.  So now it seems that the problem eventually hits everybody.  Has Freedom Scientific admitted yet that this problem exists?

 

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

 

Mitch,

 

Stephen says "Stop!" Saying "What's that sound?" And no, no particular issues with this latest build of JAWS 18. But...I have noticed with both JAWS 17 and 18, all iterations, that there is a significant hesitancy when invoking the JAWS find when in Internet Explorer or Firefox. A latency of almost 30 seconds at times. Very irritating, and until it gets back to normal, I use JAWS 16 99% of the time.

 

Also happens when going to the Systems Tray and even ResearchIt. It's almost like JAWS is having to clear out some background processing before it can respond to that command.

 

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:55

Subject: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

 

Hi All, With apologies to Stephen  Stills, it seems that with the latest JAWS 18 and Windows 7, I am experiencing frequent freezing when I change focus between applications.

I’m wondering if others have noticed this and I am also looking for tips to do some more trouble-shooting as I am without a clue as to what is actually happening.  I have to totally shut down and reboot to get back into operation and there must be a better way to resume my tasks.  Thanks for any ideas.  Mitch

 

Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:

Q:  When he went, had you gone and had she, if she wanted to and were
    able, for the time being excluding all the restraints on her not to
    go, gone also, would he have brought you, meaning you and she, with
    him to the station?
MR. BROOKS:  Objection.  That question should be taken out and shot.

 


Re: Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Alyssa <lyssassong@...>
 

They are fine.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Gurd
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Just curius, are all your installed programs working? I've been reading
conflicting information about whether this feature keeps your programs
intact.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: 27 February 2017 02:19
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Major computer issue after updating Jaws

A final follow up to this issue.
I reached out to Microsoft Accessibility. After going over everything, they
suggested that it was most likely a Windows update that for whatever reason
went bad. We tried going into the update section of settings and it kept on
closing on me with all sorts of error messages.
The FS tech who I spoke to (Dennis I believe was his name) also mentioned
this as a possibility.
In any event, with my still working Windows 7 laptop, I downloaded a Windows
10 ISO, burned it to a DVD and popped it into the tower with my sighted wife
following the prompts to repair keeping my files and programs in tact.
This did the trick. It ran, rebooted a few times and is now up and
functioning as it should with all sounds and services running.
Thought I'd share should anyone ever come across a similar problem. Needless
to say, I'm going to keep a Win 10 recovery disk handy from now on.
Been using Jaws since V 3.7U and this is the first time I encountered an
issue such as disruptive as this during an update.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 5:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Chris,

Sounds like you are in "safe Mode" Do a system restore to before you
installed JAWS.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cristóbal" <crismunoz54@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 14:02
Subject: Re: Major computer issue after updating Jaws


Update:
After restarting my computer and waiting around an hour, the desktop came
up. However, my sighted wife says that there's an error message having to do
with the audio/sound application not being loaded. Following the prompts,
though we are given the option to enable audio, this doesn't seem to occur.
Nor am I able to connect to the Internet even though this machine is
connected via an Ethernet cable.
I've checked online and even someone on one of these lists recommended to
uninstall audiodrivers in the device manager, and restart, but this doesn't
seem as though it wouldn't work for me as again, I'm somehow no longer
connected to the Internet.
I also tried accessing system restore and am presented with an error message
having to do with the audio property profile not being loaded and to check
the event log etc.
I've since tried rebooting and am again stuck on that original screen before
the desktop.
I wrote FS earlier, but who knows.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Gurd
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 12:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Major computer issue after updating Jaws

You may be able to get into the Windows Recovery mode by pressing shift and
restart at the same time. You'll need sighted assistance to find a restore
point from there.

Good luck

John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Les
Kriegler
Sent: 24 February 2017 06:49
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Hi Chris,

I'm so sorry you've encountered this issue. I have two suggestions. If in
fact the sound got turned down, try pressing Alt-Ctrl-Windows Up Arrow
several times and see if the sound returns. This is a keystroke to raise
system volume. The other thought is perhaps your speakers got muted,
although I think this is unlikely, since you aren't getting anything through
your USB headset either. But just in case, you can type Windows-B, and
right arrow to your speakers item and see if it's active and if the volume
level is set to something you can hear. You might try that first to see
what your setting is; I'm hoping that keystroke I provided might bring your
sound back. Good luck and let us know what happens.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 12:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Major computer issue after updating Jaws

Hello list,

So I downloaded and updated the new jaws 18 release that was made available
today.

I first ran the update on my personal Win 7 Pro Dell laptop and everything
went as usual. Did the reboot and all was good. I'm writing this email on
that machine.

I waited for the business day to be over before doing the same on my Dell
Win 10 pro business desktop. Again, ran the downloaded installer, went
through the process and clicked on the ok button when I was prompted to
reboot.

However, on the desktop, I am not able to get to the actual desktop. Indeed,
there is absolutely no sound coming from my machine. The only way I know
what's going on is with my sighted wife's help. I get to the screen with
three buttons for connect to the Internet, ease of access and the power down
button. The connect to the Internet button is crossed out as if it hasn't
completed loading. The ease of access button is active, but even if I try to
start narrator, there is still no sound. My wife says that it looks like
Narrator turns on, but with no sound, there's nothing I can do. That and
since the desktop doesn't come up, I still can't get anywhere. The only
thing we're able to do is access the power button to either restart or shut
down the computer.

We've tried restarting and pressing the f12 button when that prompt comes up
briefly, but then I get a screen with options of a legacy boot and other
diagnostics options that I'm not familiar with.

As far as the sound goes, I've made sure and checked with both my USB
powered headphones and regular desktop speakers. There aren't even any
system sounds.

Don't know if even calling FS would be of any help since again, there's
no audible feedback what so ever. Can't even try a system restore since I
can't get to the desktop where everything's fully loaded. NVDA doesn't come
up either.

Any ideas?

I'm really at a loss.



Cristobal


Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

Alyssa <lyssassong@...>
 

I’m not having issues with that in particular. However, 18 seems to freeze up for about 30 seconds within applications at times.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Mitchell
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

 

Hi All, With apologies to Stephen  Stills, it seems that with the latest JAWS 18 and Windows 7, I am experiencing frequent freezing when I change focus between applications.

I’m wondering if others have noticed this and I am also looking for tips to do some more trouble-shooting as I am without a clue as to what is actually happening.  I have to totally shut down and reboot to get back into operation and there must be a better way to resume my tasks.  Thanks for any ideas.  Mitch

 

Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:

Q:  When he went, had you gone and had she, if she wanted to and were
    able, for the time being excluding all the restraints on her not to
    go, gone also, would he have brought you, meaning you and she, with
    him to the station?
MR. BROOKS:  Objection.  That question should be taken out and shot.

 


Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

Dave Mitchell
 

Dave, I’ll do just that now that I know there are Fellow Travelers out there.  Mitch
 

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."
 
Mitch,
 
Just let FS know via
 
 
They need to know this is a systemic problem across specific user platforms.
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 13:57
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."
 
Dave,  Thanks and your explanation mirrors more of the issues I am experiencing.
And not knowing what is happening, my impatience is likely compounding the problem.
But what’s a new version of JAWS without some new mysteries to ponder.  Rock on, Mitch
 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here What it is ain't exactly clear."
 
Mitch,
 
Stephen says "Stop!" Saying "What's that sound?" And no, no particular issues with this latest build of JAWS 18. But...I have noticed with both JAWS 17 and 18, all iterations, that there is a significant hesitancy when invoking the JAWS find when in Internet Explorer or Firefox A latency of almost 30 seconds at times. Very irritating, and until it gets back to normal, I use JAWS 16 99% of the time.
 
Also happens when going to the Systems Tray and even ResearchIt. It's almost like JAWS is having to clear out some background processing before it can respond to that command.
 
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:55
Subject: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."
 
Hi All, With apologies to Stephen  Stills, it seems that with the latest JAWS 18 and Windows 7, I am experiencing frequent freezing when I change focus between applications.
I’m wondering if others have noticed this and I am also looking for tips to do some more trouble-shooting as I am without a clue as to what is actually happening.  I have to totally shut down and reboot to get back into operation and there must be a better way to resume my tasks.  Thanks for any ideas.  Mitch
 

Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:

Q:  When he went, had you gone and had she, if she wanted to and were
    able, for the time being excluding all the restraints on her not to
    go, gone also, would he have brought you, meaning you and she, with
    him to the station?
MR. BROOKS:  Objection.  That question should be taken out and shot.

 


windows 10 mail app not reading the next message

marvin hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

Hi. Set the setting in the win 10 mail app, to open the next item, have that checked. But when I delete a message, goes back to the in box. Have sent feedback to Microsoft. Any ideas.

Marvin.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

Dave...
 


64-bit, or 32-bit?
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 14:11
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

Hi Dave,

 

Jaws Find pops up instantly for me with this latest Jaws release both in IE and Firefox as well as in PDF files or elsewhere. This is the same on my Windows 7 desktops at work as well as on my Windows 10 laptop.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

 

Mitch,

 

Stephen says "Stop!" Saying "What's that sound?" And no, no particular issues with this latest build of JAWS 18. But...I have noticed with both JAWS 17 and 18, all iterations, that there is a significant hesitancy when invoking the JAWS find when in Internet Explorer or Firefox. A latency of almost 30 seconds at times. Very irritating, and until it gets back to normal, I use JAWS 16 99% of the time.

 

Also happens when going to the Systems Tray and even ResearchIt. It's almost like JAWS is having to clear out some background processing before it can respond to that command.

 

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:55

Subject: Latest JAWS 18 -"There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear."

 

Hi All, With apologies to Stephen  Stills, it seems that with the latest JAWS 18 and Windows 7, I am experiencing frequent freezing when I change focus between applications.

I’m wondering if others have noticed this and I am also looking for tips to do some more trouble-shooting as I am without a clue as to what is actually happening.  I have to totally shut down and reboot to get back into operation and there must be a better way to resume my tasks.  Thanks for any ideas.  Mitch

 

Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #3:

Q:  When he went, had you gone and had she, if she wanted to and were
    able, for the time being excluding all the restraints on her not to
    go, gone also, would he have brought you, meaning you and she, with
    him to the station?
MR. BROOKS:  Objection.  That question should be taken out and shot.