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Re: getting to the view menu

david
 

Hello;
Try;

Alt+v=view,

2, tab until you hear something like,
Layout change the view,
Press enter,

3, now use the arrow key, look for list grid, and press enter.
Hope this helps.

Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: getting to the view menu

Hey guys,

Trying to get to the view menu in a folder, but i can't get there in
windows 10 and jfw 17. When i do alt V it just dings at me. Any ideas
what i am doing wrong? There is a stupid ribin that comes up.

Cheers,
Jed


Re: contacting Freedom Scientific

 

Here's the Freedom Scientific Technical Support Webpage.   Take your pick of your preferred contact method.
--
Brian

     A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

    ~ Saul BellowTo Jerusalem and Back


contacting Freedom Scientific

Juan Hernandez
 

Hello,

 

I am starting to use Jaws as my primary screen reader because my old screen reader window-eyes, well things don’t look good for the future of that screen reader.

 

I just downloaded the latest Ultra Edit version 24.0.0.49

 

And I can no longer navigate the preferences screens.  When I tab through the various options, the only read a single letter.  Probably the shortcut keyboard command to jump to that option.

 

I wanted to report this to FS as with Window-Eyes this is no issue.  It reads the prefs with no issues.  Also NVDA has no issues with reading the configuration preferences screens.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Best,

Juan Hernandez

Juanhernandez98@...

619-750-9431 (M)         |  858-777-3311 (F)

My WebSite | Twitter | FaceBook | LinkedIn

 


Re: Setting Tabs In A Word Document

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Yes, it is similar to Pica. It is quite manageable.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting Tabs In A Word Document

I use Courier New at home constantly, I think I use 11
points, and for the reason you cite. It's very similar to
Pica. I've varied between 11 and 12 over the years.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 8:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting Tabs In A Word Document

The default is five spaces, and when you press Alt-O-T, you
first clear all, then set, then change default if you want.
I have one some documents where most of the tabs are left
align, but one or two, according to which document are set
for decimal alignment. Those I have set in Currier New Font,
since the characters or like typewriters, and the figures
will align correctly that way - advice from my husband the
printer.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 3:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting Tabs In A Word Document

First, I understand your question. At first glance, 2015
doesn't seem as intuitive as versions once were. I'd begin
by concentrating on the layout tab. You need to know the
kind of tab you're setting. It also won't hurt to know
spaces per inch in the font you're using. I think the
default tab is five spaces, but these aren't your father's
fonts.



Ted



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 2:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Setting Tabs In A Word Document



Hello, everyone.



I know I have done this before, but I'm having trouble
remembering how to set tabs in a Microsoft Word document.



I am trying to create a report form for a project I'm
working on, and want to set three or four tabs for each line
on the form.



I am using Word 2016 here, with Windows 7.



Thanks for any memory jogs anyone can provide.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


Re: compatability mode

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

My guess is that there is nothing retrievable.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: compatability mode

Hi Carolyn, Mario, & Poppa Bear,

The properties of this particular document say the size is, 0, & size on disk is, 4.0 KB!
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carolyna@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: compatability mode

Does the document say, as you come to it, that is before opening, how many KB's it contains? If it says something like 2,468, that would indicate that there is material of some sort. If it says 6 or 10 or something like that, then it could be a dead duck.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: compatability mode

Hi Jed,

First I used the status line keystroke with the file open, Insert + Page down, & it says there's no text to read, actually it says, no characters. But, I tried other ottions like the Jaws OCR feature, & nothing as well, then I tried Openbook, & it found no text either. So, I don't think there's anything to read.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jed Barton <mailto:jed@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 12:52 PM
Subject: compatability mode

Hey guys,

OK, i am having a hhge probem reading a manual with jfw 17 and word. It keeps telling me that a file is in compatability mode. how do i get it out of this. It's screwing everything up0


Re: getting to the view menu

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Alt+V still works, but it does have a ribbon menu, no way around that.

One useful shortcut in Windows 10 is Alt+2 (that is the 2 on the number row), it will create a new folder if you are in a Folder already. In Windows 7 you used to have to press Alt+F, then “w” for New and “f” for folder, in Windows 10 it’s just Alt+2.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting to the view menu

 

I would try hitting ESC a couple of times before you hit ALT+V as you will get dings if you already have another tab that has focus.

I don't know exactly what you mean with regard to "stupid ribbon" as the View Tab in both File Explorer (current name) and Windows Explorer (former name) has been the same ribbon for well over a decade now and began with Windows 7, I believe.  If anything has changed, at all, it's quite subtle and all indications are that it is precisely the same.
--
Brian

     A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

    ~ Saul BellowTo Jerusalem and Back


Re: getting to the view menu

 

I would try hitting ESC a couple of times before you hit ALT+V as you will get dings if you already have another tab that has focus.

I don't know exactly what you mean with regard to "stupid ribbon" as the View Tab in both File Explorer (current name) and Windows Explorer (former name) has been the same ribbon for well over a decade now and began with Windows 7, I believe.  If anything has changed, at all, it's quite subtle and all indications are that it is precisely the same.
--
Brian

     A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

    ~ Saul BellowTo Jerusalem and Back


Re: compatibility mode

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

That’s probably a default. File-cluster size is predetermined, according to the total size of the hard drive.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: compatability mode

why is the size on disk reported as 4 kb? just curious. :|



-------- Original Message --------
From: Sieghard Weitzel [mailto:sieghard@...]
Sent: Thursday, Feb 23, 2017 10:16 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: compatability mode

Then it’s an empty document.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: compatability mode

Hi Carolyn, Mario, & Poppa Bear,

The properties of this particular document say the size is, 0, & size on
disk is, 4.0 KB!
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carolyn Arnold<mailto:4carolyna@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: compatability mode

Does the document say, as you come to it, that is before opening, how
many KB's it contains? If it says something like 2,468, that would
indicate that there is material of some sort. If it says 6 or 10 or
something like that, then it could be a dead duck.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: compatability mode

Hi Jed,

First I used the status line keystroke with the file open, Insert + Page
down, & it says there's no text to read, actually it says, no
characters. But, I tried other ottions like the Jaws OCR feature, &
nothing as well, then I tried Openbook, & it found no text either. So,
I don't think there's anything to read.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jed Barton <mailto:jed@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 12:52 PM
Subject: compatability mode

Hey guys,

OK, i am having a hhge probem reading a manual with jfw 17 and word. It
keeps telling me that a file is in compatability mode. how do i get it
out of this. It's screwing everything up0


Problems Faced While Using Word 2016

Rahul Bajaj
 


Hi All,

I recently installed office 2016 and have been facing the following challenges while using word:
1. JAWS and Word get hanged when I open the word count in the review tab;
2. JAWS often doesn't read anything at all when you press control+down arrow in large documents beyond a particular point;
3. When you press the say all command, JAWS reads the same chunk of text over and over again as opposed to moving forward; and
4. Right-clicking a comment does not give you access to options that can help you edit/delete a comment. JAWS pretends that the comment doesn't exist and displays the same context menu that it would without the comment being there.
This is significantly hampering my productivity; any pointers would be much appreciated.

Best,
Rahul

Sent from my iPhone


Re: compatability mode

Mario
 

why is the size on disk reported as 4 kb? just curious. :|

-------- Original Message --------
From: Sieghard Weitzel [mailto:sieghard@...]
Sent: Thursday, Feb 23, 2017 10:16 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: compatability mode

Then it’s an empty document.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: compatability mode

Hi Carolyn, Mario, & Poppa Bear,

The properties of this particular document say the size is, 0, & size on
disk is, 4.0 KB!
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carolyn Arnold<mailto:4carolyna@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: compatability mode

Does the document say, as you come to it, that is before opening, how
many KB's it contains? If it says something like 2,468, that would
indicate that there is material of some sort. If it says 6 or 10 or
something like that, then it could be a dead duck.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: compatability mode

Hi Jed,

First I used the status line keystroke with the file open, Insert + Page
down, & it says there's no text to read, actually it says, no
characters. But, I tried other ottions like the Jaws OCR feature, &
nothing as well, then I tried Openbook, & it found no text either. So,
I don't think there's anything to read.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jed Barton <mailto:jed@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 12:52 PM
Subject: compatability mode

Hey guys,

OK, i am having a hhge probem reading a manual with jfw 17 and word. It
keeps telling me that a file is in compatability mode. how do i get it
out of this. It's screwing everything up0


getting to the view menu

Jed Barton
 

Hey guys,

Trying to get to the view menu in a folder, but i can't get there in windows 10 and jfw 17. When i do alt V it just dings at me. Any ideas what i am doing wrong? There is a stupid ribin that comes up.

Cheers,
Jed


Re: compatability mode

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Then it’s an empty document.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: compatability mode

 

Hi Carolyn, Mario, & Poppa Bear,

 

The properties of this particular document say the size is, 0, & size on disk is, 4.0 KB!

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:01 PM

Subject: Re: compatability mode

 

Does the document say, as you come to it, that is before opening, how many KB's it contains? If it says something like 2,468, that would indicate that there is material of some sort. If it says 6 or 10 or something like that, then it could be a dead duck.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: compatability mode

Hi Jed,
 
First I used the status line keystroke with the file open, Insert + Page down, & it says there's no text to read, actually it says, no characters.  But, I tried other ottions like the Jaws OCR feature, & nothing as well, then I tried Openbook, & it found no text either.  So, I don't think there's anything to read.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jed Barton <mailto:jed@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 12:52 PM
Subject: compatability mode

Hey guys,

OK, i am having a hhge probem reading a manual with jfw 17 and word.  It keeps telling me that a file is in compatability mode.  how do i get it out of this.  It's screwing everything up0







Re: compatability mode

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Have you checked if Protected Mode is on? Load the document and then press Alt+F followed by "I" and "E" or you can load the document and then press F12 to save it, if it is in protected mode you'll get a message that you have to enable editing or something like that. You could then also change the format to the current version of Word and save it in that version.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: compatability mode

What i don't understand, why itkeeps hosing my computer. The document, i only got it to work once.
When i tab or arrow throw it, it literally reads nothing.
How do i make it start reading?

On 2/22/2017 4:04 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi Jed,

This will explain compatibility mode. Read all the way through.

Original Message -----
*From:* Susie q <mailto:susieq2@...> Hi, when I open a document
that I had created when I was using windows 2003 and jaws eight, when
I open the document in windows seven, and Jaws13, and word 2010, it
says, part one compatibility mode, what does that mean? Thanks and
when I go to each chapter in the document, it says heading level two,
not used to that info, what does each mean? Thanks sue


*From:* Brian Lee <mailto:brianllee@...> Hello SusieQ,

Word 2010 uses Compatibility Mode to maintain compatibility with
earlier versions of Word.
If you get a document from a person that was created in an earlier
version of Word or you open a document you created in an earlier
version of Word the word "compatibility" appears in the title bar.
JAWS reads the title bar of a document when you open it and so you
hear the fact that the document was created with an earlier version of
Word but has been made compatible for you. Documents created in Word 2010 are stored in an open XML format.
Documents created in Word 2003 or earlier were stored in a binary
format so in order to open them in Word 2010 Microsoft uses the compatibility mode.
If a file has a .DOC extension it will open in compatibility mode.
Even documents with a .DOCX extension created in Word 2007 could open
in compatibility mode because some of the features of Word 2010 were
not supported in Word 2007 such as some text effects and OpenType
typographic features).

Headings in Word are styles. A style consists of such things as the
type of font, font size, font color, character spacing, etc. A
heading 1 style in word 2010 uses a Cambria font size 14 and is a blue
color. The heading 2 is the same except the font is one point smaller
and is a 13-point Cambria font. The normal style in Word uses a size
11 Calibri font with a black foreground color.

If each chapter in your file starts with text in a heading 2 style
then you can quickly move from chapter to chapter by browsing by
heading. You can list headings by using JAWS key with function key 6,
using up or down arrow to the heading to jump to and pressing enter
key. You could also choose to move between only heading 2 text by
going into navigation quick keys using JAWS key with Z and then
pressing the number 2 to move to next heading or shift with 2 to move
to previous heading 2 in your document. When using the navigation
quick keys you are working in a read-only mode so you will need to use
JAWS key with Z to return to editing mode. You can also use function key 6 in Word 2010 and move to the Search pane. Use the "browse by heading"
tab of the pane and use tab key to the list of headings to browse.
However, you will likely find it easier to use the JAWS navigation
quick keys or by listing headings with JAWS key and f6.

The "Part 1" text that you are hearing must be text at the top of your
document indicating that you are starting with the first part of a document.
You likely have Part 2 and additional parts through the document. One
part might have a few chapters in it.

Take care.

Brian Lee
brianllee@... <mailto:brianllee@...>
********
*From:* Brian Lee <mailto:brianllee@...> Hi Susie q,

Don't confuse compatibility mode with protected view mode.
Compatibility mode just means that Word 2010 is letting you open a
file from an earlier version of Word. You can still edit the document and save it as usual.
JAWS just reads the title bar when opening the document and so you
hear that it is being opened in compatibility mode. You don't have to
save it in the new format. If all you are wanting to do is transfer
the edited file to your Stream then you might as well just leave it in the .DOC format.

On the other hand if there are features in Word 2010 that you want to
use that weren't available in the earlier versions of Word then you
might want to use the newer format. The compatibility mode is not the
same as the protected mode and it is not a safety feature. If Word
thinks a document might be from an unsafe source then it will open in
protected view, which is like a sandboxed area. Documents from
programs using the Internet zone are examples of documents opened in
protected view. You don't need to worry about documents opened in
compatibility mode so if all you are wanting to do is put them on the Stream you really don't need to use the newer format.

Take care.
Brian Lee
brianllee@... <mailto:brianllee@...> Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Jed Barton <mailto:jed@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 12:52 PM
*Subject:* compatability mode

Hey guys,

OK, i am having a hhge probem reading a manual with jfw 17 and word.
It keeps telling me that a file is in compatability mode. how do i
get it out of this. It's screwing everything up0



Re: Contact for Wells Fargo accessibility issues: copying from Wells Fargo "results" web page.

Douglas C. DeCamp
 

I too was having terrible problems on Wells Fargo with my Win 7 Jaws 18
system. Finally gave up & upgraded to Win 10. I can pretty much get
everything to work now though I sure don't care for the new screens.
Doug

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 7:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Contact for Wells Fargo accessibility issues: copying from
Wells Fargo "results" web page.

I too can no longer do many of the things I used to be able to do on the
Wells Fargo site. It just keeps getting worse and worse.
Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Contact for Wells Fargo accessibility issues: copying from Wells
Fargo "results" web page.

Hello Curtis,

As I found out to my irritation, Wells Fargo did a major revision to their
on-line banking web site. I suddenly could not do many of the tasks that I
had previously been able to do with JAWS. JAWS 17 seemed to help, and I
also found that Firefox worked better.

Below my closing is the contact person I was given by Wells Fargo when I
complained about the access issues in their new web design. He is a private
accessibility consultant.

Good luck,
Tim Ford


David Ashleydale
Operational Risk Consultant / Accessibility Governance Lead WFVC Risk
Management Wells Fargo Virtual Channels
333 Market Street, 27th Floor| San Francisco, CA 94104 MAC A0119-271 Tel
415-371-5880 david.ashleydale@...


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis
Delzer
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 2:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: copying from Wells Fargo "results" web page.

My wife uses jaws 18 and before she could just copy the results of the bill
pay page after the transactions to the clipboard and paste into notepad or
word, but now, it does not work for her.
Is there a setting in JFW which has changed it's default between 17 and 18,
or, is the update to the Wells Fargo web site screwing it up for her?
When she copies to the clipboard, and attempts to paste, nothing gets
carried over into the paste action, and after a while, the web page times
out for security reasons.
Anyone have ideas as to what could be happening?
She is not a member of this list so any results anyone comes up with I'll
forward to her.
THANK YOU ALL!

-----
Curtis Delzer, HS.
K6VFO
San Bernardino, CA


Re: Setting Tabs In A Word Document

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I use Courier New at home constantly, I think I use 11 points, and for the reason you cite. It's very similar to Pica. I've varied between 11 and 12 over the years.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 8:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting Tabs In A Word Document

The default is five spaces, and when you press Alt-O-T, you
first clear all, then set, then change default if you want.
I have one some documents where most of the tabs are left
align, but one or two, according to which document are set
for decimal alignment. Those I have set in Currier New Font,
since the characters or like typewriters, and the figures
will align correctly that way - advice from my husband the
printer.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 3:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting Tabs In A Word Document

First, I understand your question. At first glance, 2015
doesn't seem as intuitive as versions once were. I'd begin
by concentrating on the layout tab. You need to know the
kind of tab you're setting. It also won't hurt to know
spaces per inch in the font you're using. I think the
default tab is five spaces, but these aren't your father's
fonts.



Ted



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 2:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Setting Tabs In A Word Document



Hello, everyone.



I know I have done this before, but I'm having trouble
remembering how to set tabs in a Microsoft Word document.



I am trying to create a report form for a project I'm
working on, and want to set three or four tabs for each line
on the form.



I am using Word 2016 here, with Windows 7.



Thanks for any memory jogs anyone can provide.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


Word jaws and scanning a document

Michelle's Home Emails
 

Hi there

Michelle Stevens here,

In older versions of word there was a feature Aquire text where you could scan from a scanner directly into word.

I could not find it in word 2016. Does it have a new name?

I am looking at buying a scanner package for my laptop. I have windows 10, Jaws 2017, 64 bit system. I looked at open book from SF, but looks too expensive.
How does Jaws work with onipage? Any help or ideas will be welcome.

Michelle

Sent from my iPhone


Re: compatability mode

Gerry Ellis <gerry.ellis@...>
 

Hi,

There is a trick that used to work with very old Word documents and it may or may not work in this case.

Change the extension from .DOC to .UUE. Then when you click it, it will be opened as if it were a ZIP file and the contents can be extracted.

As I said, this may not work, but may be worth a try.



Take care,

Gerry Ellis

If you don’t know where you’re going,
How will you know when you get there?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: compatability mode

although Mike gave it a try and wasn't successful, I'll give it a try, if you don't mind? my email is mrb620@... I'll be at my computer for another half hour, so send it as soon as possible.
-------- Original Message --------
From: Jed Barton [mailto:jed@...]
Sent: Wednesday, Feb 22, 2017 5:02 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: compatability mode

If anyone wants to see if they can get this file to read, my email is jed@... I'll send you the file. I'm having horrible luck. This is not good, as this is the simplest text file, and i just need to get some info out of it, but i can't make jfw read it.


On 2/22/2017 4:51 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi Jed,

Can you select all the text, copy it to the clipboard, & paste it into a text file, or a new Word document? If the document isn't of some private nature, send it to me off list, & I'll see if I can extract the contents from it, & send it back to you.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
*From:* Jed Barton <mailto:jed@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 1:24 PM
*Subject:* Re: compatability mode

Something is major wrong ehre guys. I finaly got word to shut down.
Then i clicked on the file again, but i can see no text. Is there any way to get around this? It's really annoying. I've already wasted 45 minutes on this. All i wanna do is read this document. Any ideas on what to do? When i do control home, it just says top of file. It almost sounds like something is blocking jfw from reading it. Any ideas?

On 2/22/2017 4:21 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
What i don't understand, why itkeeps hosing my computer. The document, i only got it to work once.
When i tab or arrow throw it, it literally reads nothing.
How do i make it start reading?

On 2/22/2017 4:04 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi Jed,

This will explain compatibility mode. Read all the way through.

Original Message -----
*From:* Susie q <mailto:susieq2@...> Hi, when I open a document that I had created when I was using windows
2003
and jaws eight, when I open the document in windows seven, and Jaws13, and word 2010, it says, part one compatibility mode, what does that mean?
Thanks
and when I go to each chapter in the document, it says heading level two, not used to that info, what does each mean? Thanks sue


*From:* Brian Lee <mailto:brianllee@...> Hello SusieQ,

Word 2010 uses Compatibility Mode to maintain compatibility with earlier versions of Word.
If you get a document from a person that was created in an earlier version of Word or you open a document you created in an earlier version of Word the word "compatibility" appears in the title bar. JAWS reads the title bar of a document when you open it and so you hear the fact that the document was created with an earlier version of Word but has been made compatible for you. Documents created in Word 2010 are stored in an open XML format.
Documents created in Word 2003 or earlier were stored in a binary format so in order to open them in Word 2010 Microsoft uses the compatibility mode.
If a file has a .DOC extension it will open in compatibility mode.
Even
documents with a .DOCX extension created in Word 2007 could open in compatibility mode because some of the features of Word 2010 were not supported in Word 2007 such as some text effects and OpenType typographic features).

Headings in Word are styles. A style consists of such things as the type of font, font size, font color, character spacing, etc. A heading 1 style in word 2010 uses a Cambria font size 14 and is a blue color. The heading 2 is the same except the font is one point smaller and is a 13-point Cambria font. The normal style in Word uses a size 11 Calibri font with a black foreground color.

If each chapter in your file starts with text in a heading 2 style then you can quickly move from chapter to chapter by browsing by heading.
You can
list headings by using JAWS key with function key 6, using up or down arrow to the heading to jump to and pressing enter key. You could also choose to move between only heading 2 text by going into navigation quick keys using JAWS key with Z and then pressing the number 2 to move to next heading or shift with 2 to move to previous heading 2 in your document. When using the navigation quick keys you are working in a read-only mode so you will need to use JAWS key with Z to return to editing mode. You can also use function key 6 in Word 2010 and move to the Search pane. Use the "browse by heading"
tab of the pane and use tab key to the list of headings to browse.
However,
you will likely find it easier to use the JAWS navigation quick keys or by listing headings with JAWS key and f6.

The "Part 1" text that you are hearing must be text at the top of your document indicating that you are starting with the first part of a document.
You likely have Part 2 and additional parts through the document. One part might have a few chapters in it.

Take care.

Brian Lee
brianllee@... <mailto:brianllee@...> <mailto:brianllee@...>
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*From:* Brian Lee <mailto:brianllee@...> Hi Susie q,

Don't confuse compatibility mode with protected view mode.
Compatibility
mode just means that Word 2010 is letting you open a file from an earlier version of Word. You can still edit the document and save it as usual.
JAWS just reads the title bar when opening the document and so you hear that it is being opened in compatibility mode. You don't have to save it in the new format. If all you are wanting to do is transfer the edited file to your Stream then you might as well just leave it in the .DOC format.

On the other hand if there are features in Word 2010 that you want to use that weren't available in the earlier versions of Word then you might want to use the newer format. The compatibility mode is not the same as the protected mode and it is not a safety feature. If Word thinks a document might be from an unsafe source then it will open in protected view, which is like a sandboxed area. Documents from programs using the Internet zone are examples of documents opened in protected view. You don't need to worry about documents opened in compatibility mode so if all you are wanting to do is put them on the Stream you really don't need to use the newer format.

Take care.
Brian Lee
brianllee@... <mailto:brianllee@...> <mailto:brianllee@...> Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
*From:* Jed Barton <mailto:jed@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2017 12:52 PM
*Subject:* compatability mode

Hey guys,

OK, i am having a hhge probem reading a manual with jfw 17 and word. It keeps telling me that a file is in compatability mode. how do i get it out of this. It's screwing everything up0













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Re: Setting Tabs In A Word Document

Gerry Ellis <gerry.ellis@...>
 

Hi,

 

Did you consider using a standard table instead of tabs? They are usually much more accessible to screen readers than tabs.

 

Hit Alt-A then I then T and you will be asked what kind of table you want.

 

 

 

Take care,

 

Gerry Ellis

 

If you don’t know where you’re going,

How will you know when you get there?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting Tabs In A Word Document

 

Ok, Brian.

 

Will give this a try here, probably sometime tomorrow.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 7:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting Tabs In A Word Document

 

Tab setting, particularly with the Paragraph Dialog Box, has been pretty much the same forever.

Have a look at this webpage:  http://www.dummies.com/software/microsoft-office/word/how-to-use-the-tabs-dialog-box-to-set-tabs-in-word-2016/ 

If anything "doesn't translate" I'll fire up NVDA or JAWS to see what's announced.  That control to bring up the is the last in the paragraph group in the ribbon.  If you wish to bring it up directly via a keyboard shortcut use ALT+H, PG  (Open the Home tab/ribbon, go straight to the Paragraph dialog box).
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Re: Setting Tabs In A Word Document

Tom Behler
 

Ok, Brian.

 

Will give this a try here, probably sometime tomorrow.

 

Tom Behler

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 7:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Setting Tabs In A Word Document

 

Tab setting, particularly with the Paragraph Dialog Box, has been pretty much the same forever.

Have a look at this webpage:  http://www.dummies.com/software/microsoft-office/word/how-to-use-the-tabs-dialog-box-to-set-tabs-in-word-2016/ 

If anything "doesn't translate" I'll fire up NVDA or JAWS to see what's announced.  That control to bring up the is the last in the paragraph group in the ribbon.  If you wish to bring it up directly via a keyboard shortcut use ALT+H, PG  (Open the Home tab/ribbon, go straight to the Paragraph dialog box).
--
Brian

     A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

    ~ Saul BellowTo Jerusalem and Back


Re: compatability mode

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Carolyn, Mario, & Poppa Bear,
 
The properties of this particular document say the size is, 0, & size on disk is, 4.0 KB!
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: compatability mode

Does the document say, as you come to it, that is before opening, how many KB's it contains? If it says something like 2,468, that would indicate that there is material of some sort. If it says 6 or 10 or something like that, then it could be a dead duck.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: compatability mode

Hi Jed,
 
First I used the status line keystroke with the file open, Insert + Page down, & it says there's no text to read, actually it says, no characters.  But, I tried other ottions like the Jaws OCR feature, & nothing as well, then I tried Openbook, & it found no text either.  So, I don't think there's anything to read.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jed Barton <mailto:jed@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 12:52 PM
Subject: compatability mode

Hey guys,

OK, i am having a hhge probem reading a manual with jfw 17 and word.  It keeps telling me that a file is in compatability mode.  how do i get it out of this.  It's screwing everything up0







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