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Re: Obi Daisy Book creator

HH. Smith Jr.
 

No, I haven’t. I’ll try it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Obi Daisy Book creator

 

Hello

I noticed that when I download a Dasy audio Zip file from the CELA library to my plextalk that the plextalk will not read the title of the folder I created, but as I arrow through the list of titles on the SD card,  it does read the title recorded within the folder. Have you tried recording the title within the book you create?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of HH. Smith Jr.
Sent: February 14, 2017 5:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Obi Daisy Book creator

 

Hello Listers,

 

I have a consumer with memory issues. I came up with the idea of recording our class sessions then creating a DTB using Obi from Daisy Consortium website. The digital playback unit from the Library of Congress is the perfect machine with all its built in features; however, when I create the book with pre-recorded audio, I could never get the play to state the title of the lesson. Does anyone out there have any experience with Obi. I tried emailing Daisy Consortium but I haven’t received any response as yet and it’s been a couple of days.

Thanks for any assistance

 


Re: vocalizer voices not there

Soronel Haetir
 

No problem.

On 2/16/17, mike mcglashon <michael.mcglashon@comcast.net> wrote:
Hi again:

ok, two things I have learnwed:
1. the first time I went to fs download synthesizer page I did not see the

vocalizer direct section; so I stand corrected on that one.
2. When I tried the expressive v1 voices on my work machine which has jaws

15, allison, ava, and tom all voices work just fine.
3. when I get home, I will try the vocalizer direct voices on that machine

since it has jaws 14.

Thank you very much for all your help.

Mike M.


-----Original Message-----
From: Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 3:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: vocalizer voices not there

The voice download page I am using is at:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/synthesizers

are you using some other download source?

In the synthesizer and braille manager if they don't make an
expressive/direct distinction then I believe it is direct (as
expressive is newer).

On 2/16/17, mike mcglashon <michael.mcglashon@comcast.net> wrote:
Hi:

I downloaded vocalizer express premium allison;
I did not see a vocalizer direct anything,
only a realspeak solo direct and all of its voices.

As far as the synthesizer manager is concerned,
I have eloquence, realspeak, and vocalizer synthesizers checked,
however, I do not see language until I get to the select profile menus.

I hope I am not confusing you;

Please advise.

Mike M.


-----Original Message-----
From: Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 9:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: vocalizer voices not there

I am talking about in the synthesizer choice drop-down before you even
select the language.

There are Vocalizer Expressive versions 1 and 2 as well as Vocalizer
Direct, for jfw 14 I am pretty sure that only vocalizer direct is
going to work but I suppose expressive version 1 might as well.

In any case the name (direct or expressive) will match the name in
synthesizer and braille manager, I do know expressive version 2 only
became available with jfw18.

On 2/16/17, mike mcglashon <michael.mcglashon@comcast.net> wrote:
I only saw two vocalizer choices for each person listed there.

a premium high and
and a premium


-----Original Message-----
From: Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: vocalizer voices not there

Do you have the Vocalizer synthesizer enabled in Synthesizer and
Braille Manager?

To check go to the jaws menu (jaws+j) then the utilities menu and
select Synethsizer and Braille Manager.

Open the synthesizers group in the tree and check that vocalizer is
present, if notgo to the add/remove/change button and go through the
process to add the synthesizer driver. You'll have to restart jaws
again if you had to add the driver.

If vocalizer is there I suspect you chose the wrong vocalizer from the
voice download page (there are three vocalizer synthesizers on the
download page but I suspect only one is going to work with jfw14 - I
don't recall which one).

On 2/15/17, mike mcglashon <michael.mcglashon@comcast.net> wrote:
hey guys:

I have jaws 14 and windows 7.

Tonight I downloaded and installed the vocalizer alison voice using the
typical instll button versus the custom button;
when it finished, it told me it was successful;
I then restarted jaws like it told me too;
I next went into voice-adjustment from the jaws window options menu and
did not see any reference to vocalizer express alison etc at all in the
voice profile list.

earlier in the day I installed tom and jill realspeak solo direct
voices
with no problem,
and those do appear in the voice profile list.

did I miss something here?

Please advise.

Mike M.

--
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soronel.haetir@gmail.com







--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com







--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com






--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Re: vocalizer voices not there

mike mcglashon
 

Hi again:

ok, two things I have learnwed:
1. the first time I went to fs download synthesizer page I did not see the vocalizer direct section; so I stand corrected on that one.
2. When I tried the expressive v1 voices on my work machine which has jaws 15, allison, ava, and tom all voices work just fine.
3. when I get home, I will try the vocalizer direct voices on that machine since it has jaws 14.

Thank you very much for all your help.

Mike M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 3:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: vocalizer voices not there

The voice download page I am using is at:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/synthesizers

are you using some other download source?

In the synthesizer and braille manager if they don't make an
expressive/direct distinction then I believe it is direct (as
expressive is newer).

On 2/16/17, mike mcglashon <michael.mcglashon@comcast.net> wrote:
Hi:

I downloaded vocalizer express premium allison;
I did not see a vocalizer direct anything,
only a realspeak solo direct and all of its voices.

As far as the synthesizer manager is concerned,
I have eloquence, realspeak, and vocalizer synthesizers checked,
however, I do not see language until I get to the select profile menus.

I hope I am not confusing you;

Please advise.

Mike M.


-----Original Message-----
From: Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 9:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: vocalizer voices not there

I am talking about in the synthesizer choice drop-down before you even
select the language.

There are Vocalizer Expressive versions 1 and 2 as well as Vocalizer
Direct, for jfw 14 I am pretty sure that only vocalizer direct is
going to work but I suppose expressive version 1 might as well.

In any case the name (direct or expressive) will match the name in
synthesizer and braille manager, I do know expressive version 2 only
became available with jfw18.

On 2/16/17, mike mcglashon <michael.mcglashon@comcast.net> wrote:
I only saw two vocalizer choices for each person listed there.

a premium high and
and a premium


-----Original Message-----
From: Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: vocalizer voices not there

Do you have the Vocalizer synthesizer enabled in Synthesizer and
Braille Manager?

To check go to the jaws menu (jaws+j) then the utilities menu and
select Synethsizer and Braille Manager.

Open the synthesizers group in the tree and check that vocalizer is
present, if notgo to the add/remove/change button and go through the
process to add the synthesizer driver. You'll have to restart jaws
again if you had to add the driver.

If vocalizer is there I suspect you chose the wrong vocalizer from the
voice download page (there are three vocalizer synthesizers on the
download page but I suspect only one is going to work with jfw14 - I
don't recall which one).

On 2/15/17, mike mcglashon <michael.mcglashon@comcast.net> wrote:
hey guys:

I have jaws 14 and windows 7.

Tonight I downloaded and installed the vocalizer alison voice using the
typical instll button versus the custom button;
when it finished, it told me it was successful;
I then restarted jaws like it told me too;
I next went into voice-adjustment from the jaws window options menu and
did not see any reference to vocalizer express alison etc at all in the
voice profile list.

earlier in the day I installed tom and jill realspeak solo direct voices
with no problem,
and those do appear in the voice profile list.

did I miss something here?

Please advise.

Mike M.

--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com







--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com







--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Re: Accessible password managers

Stephanie Switzer
 

I'm not sure either. I just hit cancel if I don't want to open my password vault. End it doesn't do that to me on every side just when I open a new session. (Using firefox here) So, if I get done using one site and want to go to another I just go to the address bar and type in the new site and it's fine.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 16, 2017, at 3:41 PM, Tony <tony@k5twz.com> wrote:

I tried it recently but it popped up everytime I brought up a site. I assume there was a way to disable that but I couldn't find it.

Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 3:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible password managers

Roboform automatically fills and submits login forms. If I save a login in a so-called Passcard and then later go to that passcard via the Roboform system tray icon and press enter on it it wil open up the website, fill in user name and password and submit the form hence log you in.
In a few cases this does not work, but it usually does.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible password managers

I think the idea is that, by using a password manager, you really only have to remember one password, and it can be a really good one that no one could ever guess or figure out at any point during your lifetime. Once in, you can look up any password to any site or program that exists (and that you have probably forgotten). For instance, I cannot remember my Face Book or Linked In pass words.
Your file does the same thing, except it is not secure. Anyone who can get access to that file has access to all your pass words.
I do like your idea. It would be really cool to be able to use a hotkey that would identify the proper prompt and automatically paste in the proper password.
You probably cannot get a patent on that idea, but it is a good one. <SMILE>



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gudrun Brunot
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 2:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible password managers

Hello all: I have installed 1Password on my Windows 7 desktop and my iPhone. Fairly accessible, and the developer is very friendly and approachable. One thing I haven't figure out, however. I was hoping that the 1password would make it possible for me to log in on these websites and the password would be automatically fed in, but that doesn't seem to happen. I know that you can have 1password display your passwords, but that doesn't seem like such a deal to me. I keep a special file on my devices that lists all my passwords with names of their respective websites. Sure, I have to go there and find it and then do an "idiot paste" as one of my friends calls it. So, what am I missing on these password storing programs?



Gudrun


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible password managers

Cristóbal,


I would recommend you take a look at Password Safe <https://pwsafe.org/> . It is, at least according to my "informants," entirely accessible in its original Windows version and based on the fact that the latest version is still menu driven and clearly written during the Aero era, if not earlier, it should still be.

There are ports to both Android and iOS, though I cannot speak to the accessibility of either since I don't use TalkBack and haven't worked with a client who's using VoiceOver in a while and never tested out iOS port when I did. All of these are free.

One very nice feature, though somewhat tricky to configure, is using the external sync feature to the cloud such that all of your instances of Password Safe access the same encrypted password safe file that's on the cloud. It saves the PITA of having to remember to enter something on your mobile platform that you entered on your computer or vice versa.

If you do give this a try please report back on your findings, especially regarding the iOS port and VoiceOver.
--
Brian

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back







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Re: Accessible password managers

Stephanie Switzer
 

With 1Password you can get web extensions for Firefox, chrome, and I'm not sure what else. You can then use a shortcut key to have it paste the username and password into the appropriate fields.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 16, 2017, at 3:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:

Roboform automatically fills and submits login forms. If I save a login in a so-called Passcard and then later go to that passcard via the Roboform system tray icon and press enter on it it wil open up the website, fill in user name and password and submit the form hence log you in.
In a few cases this does not work, but it usually does.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible password managers

I think the idea is that, by using a password manager, you really only have to remember one password, and it can be a really good one that no one could ever guess or figure out at any point during your lifetime. Once in, you can look up any password to any site or program that exists (and that you have probably forgotten). For instance, I cannot remember my Face Book or Linked In pass words.
Your file does the same thing, except it is not secure. Anyone who can get access to that file has access to all your pass words.
I do like your idea. It would be really cool to be able to use a hotkey that would identify the proper prompt and automatically paste in the proper password.
You probably cannot get a patent on that idea, but it is a good one. <SMILE>



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gudrun Brunot
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 2:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible password managers

Hello all: I have installed 1Password on my Windows 7 desktop and my iPhone. Fairly accessible, and the developer is very friendly and approachable. One thing I haven't figure out, however. I was hoping that the 1password would make it possible for me to log in on these websites and the password would be automatically fed in, but that doesn't seem to happen. I know that you can have 1password display your passwords, but that doesn't seem like such a deal to me. I keep a special file on my devices that lists all my passwords with names of their respective websites. Sure, I have to go there and find it and then do an "idiot paste" as one of my friends calls it. So, what am I missing on these password storing programs?



Gudrun


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible password managers

Cristóbal,


I would recommend you take a look at Password Safe <https://pwsafe.org/> . It is, at least according to my "informants," entirely accessible in its original Windows version and based on the fact that the latest version is still menu driven and clearly written during the Aero era, if not earlier, it should still be.

There are ports to both Android and iOS, though I cannot speak to the accessibility of either since I don't use TalkBack and haven't worked with a client who's using VoiceOver in a while and never tested out iOS port when I did. All of these are free.

One very nice feature, though somewhat tricky to configure, is using the external sync feature to the cloud such that all of your instances of Password Safe access the same encrypted password safe file that's on the cloud. It saves the PITA of having to remember to enter something on your mobile platform that you entered on your computer or vice versa.

If you do give this a try please report back on your findings, especially regarding the iOS port and VoiceOver.
--
Brian

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back







----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Thank you.






Re: Accessible password managers

Gudrun Brunot
 

Thanks much, Brian. You're a gold mine of information.



Gudrun

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 2:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible password managers

Password Safe doesn't automatically fill in login forms but it does allow you to very easily copy either your username or password (but not both at once) to the clipboard. If you include the URL for the website for which a given username/password applies there's also a built in "browse to URL" function or you can use the "Go" button in the password entry creation/editing dialog to have it fire up in your default browser.

Have a look at http://www.howtoanswer.com/manage-and-store-multiple-passwords-with-password-safe--148.html

This page is accessible even though it's screen shot intensive. The narrative does a pretty good job of describing what's being done at various steps as far as creating entries, etc.

Also, as an aside, what I call the portmanteau method of creating passwords is a way to create complex passwords that are easy for you to remember and horribly difficult for other people to guess. What you do is construct a "standard password" out of parts that are significant to you, combined with something that's simple to remember about your website, that will differ based on where you're using it. Password length is something that adds a lot to password strength, so the longer the better so long as it doesn't become a pain to enter (unless you're using something like Password Safe to store and copy/paste them, then you can go crazy, but I still generally key mine in by hand so I use portmanteaus that are easy to remember.

Let's say your childhood home was located at 1523 Betsy Bell Drive. Your favorite pet was your cat, Fuzz. Your Grandmother's given name was Nancy. Your preferred special character is an asterisk.

For a given website you could create the portmanteau: NancyFuzz<site specific something here>1523*. When you already know the NancyFuzz is at the front and the 1523* is at the end it becomes very easy to get passwords like NancyFuzzGmail1523*, NancyFuzzMyBank1523*.

You can use phrases that no one else would know instead of constructions like this, e.g., HasteMakesWasteGmail1523*. It's a matter of coming up with something that's very easy for you to remember as far as the general construction rule, but that would be virtually impossible for a random person who isn't you to guess. It's amazing how quickly one becomes at typing the "repeated parts" of even long portmanteau passwords. It also allows you to create something that's distinct to virtually any purpose without any two of them being exactly the same.
--
Brian

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Accessible password managers

 

Password Safe doesn't automatically fill in login forms but it does allow you to very easily copy either your username or password (but not both at once) to the clipboard.  If you include the URL for the website for which a given username/password applies there's also a built in "browse to URL" function or you can use the "Go" button in the password entry creation/editing dialog to have it fire up in your default browser.

Have a look at http://www.howtoanswer.com/manage-and-store-multiple-passwords-with-password-safe--148.html

This page is accessible even though it's screen shot intensive.  The narrative does a pretty good job of describing what's being done at various steps as far as creating entries, etc.

Also, as an aside, what I call the portmanteau method of creating passwords is a way to create complex passwords that are easy for you to remember and horribly difficult for other people to guess.  What you do is construct a "standard password" out of parts that are significant to you, combined with something that's simple to remember about your website, that will differ based on where you're using it.  Password length is something that adds a lot to password strength, so the longer the better so long as it doesn't become a pain to enter (unless you're using something like Password Safe to store and copy/paste them, then you can go crazy, but I still generally key mine in by hand so I use portmanteaus that are easy to remember.

Let's say your childhood home was located at 1523 Betsy Bell Drive.  Your favorite pet was your cat, Fuzz.  Your Grandmother's given name was Nancy.  Your preferred special character is an asterisk.

For a given website you could create the portmanteau:  NancyFuzz<site specific something here>1523*.  When you already know the NancyFuzz is at the front and the 1523* is at the end it becomes very easy to get passwords like NancyFuzzGmail1523*, NancyFuzzMyBank1523*.

You can use phrases that no one else would know instead of constructions like this, e.g., HasteMakesWasteGmail1523*.  It's a matter of coming up with something that's very easy for you to remember as far as the general construction rule, but that would be virtually impossible for a random person who isn't you to guess.  It's amazing how quickly one becomes at typing the "repeated parts" of even long portmanteau passwords.  It also allows you to create something that's distinct to virtually any purpose without any two of them being exactly the same.
--
Brian

     A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

    ~ Saul BellowTo Jerusalem and Back


Re: vocalizer voices not there

Soronel Haetir
 

The voice download page I am using is at:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/synthesizers

are you using some other download source?

In the synthesizer and braille manager if they don't make an
expressive/direct distinction then I believe it is direct (as
expressive is newer).

On 2/16/17, mike mcglashon <michael.mcglashon@comcast.net> wrote:
Hi:

I downloaded vocalizer express premium allison;
I did not see a vocalizer direct anything,
only a realspeak solo direct and all of its voices.

As far as the synthesizer manager is concerned,
I have eloquence, realspeak, and vocalizer synthesizers checked,
however, I do not see language until I get to the select profile menus.

I hope I am not confusing you;

Please advise.

Mike M.


-----Original Message-----
From: Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 9:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: vocalizer voices not there

I am talking about in the synthesizer choice drop-down before you even
select the language.

There are Vocalizer Expressive versions 1 and 2 as well as Vocalizer
Direct, for jfw 14 I am pretty sure that only vocalizer direct is
going to work but I suppose expressive version 1 might as well.

In any case the name (direct or expressive) will match the name in
synthesizer and braille manager, I do know expressive version 2 only
became available with jfw18.

On 2/16/17, mike mcglashon <michael.mcglashon@comcast.net> wrote:
I only saw two vocalizer choices for each person listed there.

a premium high and
and a premium


-----Original Message-----
From: Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: vocalizer voices not there

Do you have the Vocalizer synthesizer enabled in Synthesizer and
Braille Manager?

To check go to the jaws menu (jaws+j) then the utilities menu and
select Synethsizer and Braille Manager.

Open the synthesizers group in the tree and check that vocalizer is
present, if notgo to the add/remove/change button and go through the
process to add the synthesizer driver. You'll have to restart jaws
again if you had to add the driver.

If vocalizer is there I suspect you chose the wrong vocalizer from the
voice download page (there are three vocalizer synthesizers on the
download page but I suspect only one is going to work with jfw14 - I
don't recall which one).

On 2/15/17, mike mcglashon <michael.mcglashon@comcast.net> wrote:
hey guys:

I have jaws 14 and windows 7.

Tonight I downloaded and installed the vocalizer alison voice using the
typical instll button versus the custom button;
when it finished, it told me it was successful;
I then restarted jaws like it told me too;
I next went into voice-adjustment from the jaws window options menu and
did not see any reference to vocalizer express alison etc at all in the
voice profile list.

earlier in the day I installed tom and jill realspeak solo direct voices
with no problem,
and those do appear in the voice profile list.

did I miss something here?

Please advise.

Mike M.

--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com







--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com






--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Re: Accessible password managers

Tony
 

I tried it recently but it popped up everytime I brought up a site. I assume there was a way to disable that but I couldn't find it.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 3:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible password managers

Roboform automatically fills and submits login forms. If I save a login in a so-called Passcard and then later go to that passcard via the Roboform system tray icon and press enter on it it wil open up the website, fill in user name and password and submit the form hence log you in.
In a few cases this does not work, but it usually does.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible password managers

I think the idea is that, by using a password manager, you really only have to remember one password, and it can be a really good one that no one could ever guess or figure out at any point during your lifetime. Once in, you can look up any password to any site or program that exists (and that you have probably forgotten). For instance, I cannot remember my Face Book or Linked In pass words.
Your file does the same thing, except it is not secure. Anyone who can get access to that file has access to all your pass words.
I do like your idea. It would be really cool to be able to use a hotkey that would identify the proper prompt and automatically paste in the proper password.
You probably cannot get a patent on that idea, but it is a good one. <SMILE>



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gudrun Brunot
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 2:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible password managers

Hello all: I have installed 1Password on my Windows 7 desktop and my iPhone. Fairly accessible, and the developer is very friendly and approachable. One thing I haven't figure out, however. I was hoping that the 1password would make it possible for me to log in on these websites and the password would be automatically fed in, but that doesn't seem to happen. I know that you can have 1password display your passwords, but that doesn't seem like such a deal to me. I keep a special file on my devices that lists all my passwords with names of their respective websites. Sure, I have to go there and find it and then do an "idiot paste" as one of my friends calls it. So, what am I missing on these password storing programs?



Gudrun


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible password managers

Cristóbal,


I would recommend you take a look at Password Safe <https://pwsafe.org/> . It is, at least according to my "informants," entirely accessible in its original Windows version and based on the fact that the latest version is still menu driven and clearly written during the Aero era, if not earlier, it should still be.

There are ports to both Android and iOS, though I cannot speak to the accessibility of either since I don't use TalkBack and haven't worked with a client who's using VoiceOver in a while and never tested out iOS port when I did. All of these are free.

One very nice feature, though somewhat tricky to configure, is using the external sync feature to the cloud such that all of your instances of Password Safe access the same encrypted password safe file that's on the cloud. It saves the PITA of having to remember to enter something on your mobile platform that you entered on your computer or vice versa.

If you do give this a try please report back on your findings, especially regarding the iOS port and VoiceOver.
--
Brian

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~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back







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Seeking for references, excel

Pablo Morales
 

Hi all,

Anybody know if using excel I can do the following.

I have the following table in excel. The following is an example of the table, so keep in mind that I need to do this on excel.

Product

Price

Quantity

Purchase order

t-shirts

$12.95

12

LV0847738899

Sox

$1.72

33

LV00035087

Pants

$33.23

73

XM920076747874

Shorts

$12.05

11

XM987366787488

Shoes

$23.99

56

LV028764885498783

Sweaters

$27.09

96

LV277684887639

Jackets

$57.12

4

MX98276748857673

 

 

If I use the function MAX(B2:B9), excel will give me the highest price on this column. But how can I get the values of the references on the row where is the highest price?

How can I do that using excel?

 

 


Re: vocalizer voices not there

mike mcglashon
 

Hi:

I downloaded vocalizer express premium allison;
I did not see a vocalizer direct anything,
only a realspeak solo direct and all of its voices.

As far as the synthesizer manager is concerned,
I have eloquence, realspeak, and vocalizer synthesizers checked,
however, I do not see language until I get to the select profile menus.

I hope I am not confusing you;

Please advise.

Mike M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 9:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: vocalizer voices not there

I am talking about in the synthesizer choice drop-down before you even
select the language.

There are Vocalizer Expressive versions 1 and 2 as well as Vocalizer
Direct, for jfw 14 I am pretty sure that only vocalizer direct is
going to work but I suppose expressive version 1 might as well.

In any case the name (direct or expressive) will match the name in
synthesizer and braille manager, I do know expressive version 2 only
became available with jfw18.

On 2/16/17, mike mcglashon <michael.mcglashon@comcast.net> wrote:
I only saw two vocalizer choices for each person listed there.

a premium high and
and a premium


-----Original Message-----
From: Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: vocalizer voices not there

Do you have the Vocalizer synthesizer enabled in Synthesizer and
Braille Manager?

To check go to the jaws menu (jaws+j) then the utilities menu and
select Synethsizer and Braille Manager.

Open the synthesizers group in the tree and check that vocalizer is
present, if notgo to the add/remove/change button and go through the
process to add the synthesizer driver. You'll have to restart jaws
again if you had to add the driver.

If vocalizer is there I suspect you chose the wrong vocalizer from the
voice download page (there are three vocalizer synthesizers on the
download page but I suspect only one is going to work with jfw14 - I
don't recall which one).

On 2/15/17, mike mcglashon <michael.mcglashon@comcast.net> wrote:
hey guys:

I have jaws 14 and windows 7.

Tonight I downloaded and installed the vocalizer alison voice using the
typical instll button versus the custom button;
when it finished, it told me it was successful;
I then restarted jaws like it told me too;
I next went into voice-adjustment from the jaws window options menu and
did not see any reference to vocalizer express alison etc at all in the
voice profile list.

earlier in the day I installed tom and jill realspeak solo direct voices
with no problem,
and those do appear in the voice profile list.

did I miss something here?

Please advise.

Mike M.

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Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com







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soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Re: Accessible password managers

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Roboform automatically fills and submits login forms. If I save a login in a so-called Passcard and then later go to that passcard via the Roboform system tray icon and press enter on it it wil open up the website, fill in user name and password and submit the form hence log you in.
In a few cases this does not work, but it usually does.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible password managers

I think the idea is that, by using a password manager, you really only have to remember one password, and it can be a really good one that no one could ever guess or figure out at any point during your lifetime. Once in, you can look up any password to any site or program that exists (and that you have probably forgotten). For instance, I cannot remember my Face Book or Linked In pass words.
Your file does the same thing, except it is not secure. Anyone who can get access to that file has access to all your pass words.
I do like your idea. It would be really cool to be able to use a hotkey that would identify the proper prompt and automatically paste in the proper password.
You probably cannot get a patent on that idea, but it is a good one. <SMILE>



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gudrun Brunot
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 2:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible password managers

Hello all: I have installed 1Password on my Windows 7 desktop and my iPhone. Fairly accessible, and the developer is very friendly and approachable. One thing I haven't figure out, however. I was hoping that the 1password would make it possible for me to log in on these websites and the password would be automatically fed in, but that doesn't seem to happen. I know that you can have 1password display your passwords, but that doesn't seem like such a deal to me. I keep a special file on my devices that lists all my passwords with names of their respective websites. Sure, I have to go there and find it and then do an "idiot paste" as one of my friends calls it. So, what am I missing on these password storing programs?



Gudrun


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible password managers

Cristóbal,


I would recommend you take a look at Password Safe <https://pwsafe.org/> . It is, at least according to my "informants," entirely accessible in its original Windows version and based on the fact that the latest version is still menu driven and clearly written during the Aero era, if not earlier, it should still be.

There are ports to both Android and iOS, though I cannot speak to the accessibility of either since I don't use TalkBack and haven't worked with a client who's using VoiceOver in a while and never tested out iOS port when I did. All of these are free.

One very nice feature, though somewhat tricky to configure, is using the external sync feature to the cloud such that all of your instances of Password Safe access the same encrypted password safe file that's on the cloud. It saves the PITA of having to remember to enter something on your mobile platform that you entered on your computer or vice versa.

If you do give this a try please report back on your findings, especially regarding the iOS port and VoiceOver.
--
Brian

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back







----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: Accessible password managers

Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@...>
 

I think the idea is that, by using a password manager, you really only have to remember one password, and it can be a really good one that no one could ever guess or figure out at any point during your lifetime. Once in, you can look up any password to any site or program that exists (and that you have probably forgotten). For instance, I cannot remember my Face Book or Linked In pass words.
Your file does the same thing, except it is not secure. Anyone who can get access to that file has access to all your pass words.
I do like your idea. It would be really cool to be able to use a hotkey that would identify the proper prompt and automatically paste in the proper password.
You probably cannot get a patent on that idea, but it is a good one. <SMILE>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gudrun Brunot
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 2:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible password managers

Hello all: I have installed 1Password on my Windows 7 desktop and my iPhone. Fairly accessible, and the developer is very friendly and approachable. One thing I haven't figure out, however. I was hoping that the 1password would make it possible for me to log in on these websites and the password would be automatically fed in, but that doesn't seem to happen. I know that you can have 1password display your passwords, but that doesn't seem like such a deal to me. I keep a special file on my devices that lists all my passwords with names of their respective websites. Sure, I have to go there and find it and then do an "idiot paste" as one of my friends calls it. So, what am I missing on these password storing programs?



Gudrun


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible password managers

Cristóbal,


I would recommend you take a look at Password Safe <https://pwsafe.org/> . It is, at least according to my "informants," entirely accessible in its original Windows version and based on the fact that the latest version is still menu driven and clearly written during the Aero era, if not earlier, it should still be.

There are ports to both Android and iOS, though I cannot speak to the accessibility of either since I don't use TalkBack and haven't worked with a client who's using VoiceOver in a while and never tested out iOS port when I did. All of these are free.

One very nice feature, though somewhat tricky to configure, is using the external sync feature to the cloud such that all of your instances of Password Safe access the same encrypted password safe file that's on the cloud. It saves the PITA of having to remember to enter something on your mobile platform that you entered on your computer or vice versa.

If you do give this a try please report back on your findings, especially regarding the iOS port and VoiceOver.
--
Brian

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back







----------------------------------------------------------------------
This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named recipients above and may contain information
that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by applicable law. If you have received this
message in error, please notify the sender at 402-346-6000 and delete this E-mail message.
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Re: Accessible password managers

Gudrun Brunot
 

Hello all: I have installed 1Password on my Windows 7 desktop and my iPhone. Fairly accessible, and the developer is very friendly and approachable. One thing I haven't figure out, however. I was hoping that the 1password would make it possible for me to log in on these websites and the password would be automatically fed in, but that doesn't seem to happen. I know that you can have 1password display your passwords, but that doesn't seem like such a deal to me. I keep a special file on my devices that lists all my passwords with names of their respective websites. Sure, I have to go there and find it and then do an "idiot paste" as one of my friends calls it. So, what am I missing on these password storing programs?



Gudrun

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible password managers

Cristóbal,


I would recommend you take a look at Password Safe <https://pwsafe.org/> . It is, at least according to my "informants," entirely accessible in its original Windows version and based on the fact that the latest version is still menu driven and clearly written during the Aero era, if not earlier, it should still be.

There are ports to both Android and iOS, though I cannot speak to the accessibility of either since I don't use TalkBack and haven't worked with a client who's using VoiceOver in a while and never tested out iOS port when I did. All of these are free.

One very nice feature, though somewhat tricky to configure, is using the external sync feature to the cloud such that all of your instances of Password Safe access the same encrypted password safe file that's on the cloud. It saves the PITA of having to remember to enter something on your mobile platform that you entered on your computer or vice versa.

If you do give this a try please report back on your findings, especially regarding the iOS port and VoiceOver.
--
Brian

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Winamp, multiple versions

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Thank you. Someone delivered the files I needed.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: Winamp, multiple versions

Bill White,
Here is a list of the versions I have of winamp.  only filenames; but sometimes one can tell the version by the filename.
winamp280_full.exe
winamp290_full.exe
winamp292_full.exe
winamp503_full.exe
winamp508c_full_emusic-7plus.exe
winamp5094_full_emusic-7plus.exe
winamp5112_full.exe
winamp52_full_emusic-7plus.exe
winamp52_pro.exe
winamp521_full_emusic-7plus.exe
winamp524_full_emusic-7plus.exe
winamp533_full.exe
winamp533_full_emusic-7plus.exe
winamp535_pro.exe
winamp5621_full_emusic-7plus_en-us.exe
I could deliver any or all via sendspace.
 
Howard
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp, multiple versions

Hi, Tom. I think I am looking for different versions from the ones you listed. I know they would be large to send as attachments, and probably would not be sent through email.
 
Thanks for the thought, though, Tom.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp, multiple versions

Bill:

 

I have the executable files for Winamp 5581 and 5666, if they would help.

 

If so, I can attempt to send them to you, although they might be rather large.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Winamp, multiple versions

 

Some time ago, someone on this list had a zip file of old WinAmp installer files, which contained different versions of WinAmp.

 

Someone recommended that I use the Ninite installer, but it is not good for me, as I want to customize WinAmp. I actually want to check and uncheck the various options to make it work best with JAWS.

 

Does anyone still have that set of old versions of WinAmp installer files?

 

Thank you.

Bill White billwhite92701@...



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Re: Accessible password managers

Stephanie Switzer
 

1password is accessible with iOS and windows. Not sure about any other platform though. It's by agile bits if that helps.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 16, 2017, at 2:08 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Cristóbal,


           I would recommend you take a look at Password Safe.  It is, at least according to my "informants," entirely accessible in its original Windows version and based on the fact that the latest version is still menu driven and clearly written during the Aero era, if not earlier, it should still be.

           There are ports to both Android and iOS, though I cannot speak to the accessibility of either since I don't use TalkBack and haven't worked with a client who's using VoiceOver in a while and never tested out iOS port when I did.  All of these are free.

            One very nice feature, though somewhat tricky to configure, is using the external sync feature to the cloud such that all of your instances of Password Safe access the same encrypted password safe file that's on the cloud.  It saves the PITA of having to remember to enter something on your mobile platform that you entered on your computer or vice versa.

             If you do give this a try please report back on your findings, especially regarding the iOS port and VoiceOver.
--
Brian

     A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

    ~ Saul BellowTo Jerusalem and Back


Re: Accessible password managers

 

Cristóbal,


           I would recommend you take a look at Password Safe.  It is, at least according to my "informants," entirely accessible in its original Windows version and based on the fact that the latest version is still menu driven and clearly written during the Aero era, if not earlier, it should still be.

           There are ports to both Android and iOS, though I cannot speak to the accessibility of either since I don't use TalkBack and haven't worked with a client who's using VoiceOver in a while and never tested out iOS port when I did.  All of these are free.

            One very nice feature, though somewhat tricky to configure, is using the external sync feature to the cloud such that all of your instances of Password Safe access the same encrypted password safe file that's on the cloud.  It saves the PITA of having to remember to enter something on your mobile platform that you entered on your computer or vice versa.

             If you do give this a try please report back on your findings, especially regarding the iOS port and VoiceOver.
--
Brian

     A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

    ~ Saul BellowTo Jerusalem and Back


Accessible password managers

Cristóbal
 

Hello list,

Looking for an accessible password manager on both the Windows with Jaws and iOS platforms if possible. Paid is fine.

I tried looking in the archives as I know this topic has come up before, but it was quite difficult sifting through so many threads and posts to find anything. Thanks,

Cristobal


Re: Winamp, multiple versions

Luis Difut
 

Try

http://www.oldversion.com/windows/winamp-2-95

They have many old versions of WinAmp on this site.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Hooper
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 11:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Winamp, multiple versions

 

james  here would love the  versions of winamp.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 9:00 AM

Subject: Re: Winamp, multiple versions

 

Bill White,

Here is a list of the versions I have of winamp.  only filenames; but sometimes one can tell the version by the filename.

winamp280_full.exe
winamp290_full.exe
winamp292_full.exe
winamp503_full.exe
winamp508c_full_emusic-7plus.exe
winamp5094_full_emusic-7plus.exe
winamp5112_full.exe
winamp52_full_emusic-7plus.exe
winamp52_pro.exe
winamp521_full_emusic-7plus.exe
winamp524_full_emusic-7plus.exe
winamp533_full.exe
winamp533_full_emusic-7plus.exe
winamp535_pro.exe
winamp5621_full_emusic-7plus_en-us.exe

I could deliver any or all via sendspace.

 

Howard

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White

Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:52 PM

Subject: Re: Winamp, multiple versions

 

Hi, Tom. I think I am looking for different versions from the ones you listed. I know they would be large to send as attachments, and probably would not be sent through email.

 

Thanks for the thought, though, Tom.

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom Behler

Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 1:40 PM

Subject: Re: Winamp, multiple versions

 

Bill:

 

I have the executable files for Winamp 5581 and 5666, if they would help.

 

If so, I can attempt to send them to you, although they might be rather large.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Winamp, multiple versions

 

Some time ago, someone on this list had a zip file of old WinAmp installer files, which contained different versions of WinAmp.

 

Someone recommended that I use the Ninite installer, but it is not good for me, as I want to customize WinAmp. I actually want to check and uncheck the various options to make it work best with JAWS.

 

Does anyone still have that set of old versions of WinAmp installer files?

 

Thank you.



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Re: Winamp, multiple versions

James Hooper <j.hooper3272@...>
 

james  here would love the  versions of winamp.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: Winamp, multiple versions

Bill White,
Here is a list of the versions I have of winamp.  only filenames; but sometimes one can tell the version by the filename.
winamp280_full.exe
winamp290_full.exe
winamp292_full.exe
winamp503_full.exe
winamp508c_full_emusic-7plus.exe
winamp5094_full_emusic-7plus.exe
winamp5112_full.exe
winamp52_full_emusic-7plus.exe
winamp52_pro.exe
winamp521_full_emusic-7plus.exe
winamp524_full_emusic-7plus.exe
winamp533_full.exe
winamp533_full_emusic-7plus.exe
winamp535_pro.exe
winamp5621_full_emusic-7plus_en-us.exe
I could deliver any or all via sendspace.
 
Howard
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp, multiple versions

Hi, Tom. I think I am looking for different versions from the ones you listed. I know they would be large to send as attachments, and probably would not be sent through email.
 
Thanks for the thought, though, Tom.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp, multiple versions

Bill:

 

I have the executable files for Winamp 5581 and 5666, if they would help.

 

If so, I can attempt to send them to you, although they might be rather large.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Winamp, multiple versions

 

Some time ago, someone on this list had a zip file of old WinAmp installer files, which contained different versions of WinAmp.

 

Someone recommended that I use the Ninite installer, but it is not good for me, as I want to customize WinAmp. I actually want to check and uncheck the various options to make it work best with JAWS.

 

Does anyone still have that set of old versions of WinAmp installer files?

 

Thank you.

Bill White billwhite92701@...



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