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Re: Event: Site Maintenance, Thursday, 2 February 2017

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Do you mean that tomorrow night for a period of time that the groups will be out, as in a power outage?

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 1:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Event: Site Maintenance, Thursday, 2 February 2017

This may end up coming out as an announcement on all groups, but since it hasn't yet I'm sharing it here.

There will be a planned outage on Groups.io tomorrow night. Details are available on this Groups.io webpage <https://groups.io/g/beta/message/12797> .
--
Brian

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Hourly Chime

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I didn't get all that far with the clock. For one thing, I
couldn't open the site here, but copied and went to the net.
Then when I got in, it sounded like I was getting more than
just the clock, maybe Yahoo, Chrome.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 6:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hourly Chime

I might see if they can help me the next time I talk to them
at Customer Services. I don't think I trust myself enough,
but I will give it a look, probably tomorrow.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Hourly Chime

here's a program that maybe what you're looking for. I
haven't tried it, but if you do, let the list know your
observations of trying it.

Desktop Clock Setup Documentation And Download link
http://jaws-users.com/programs/Utilities/DesktopClockSetup.h
tml

the next is a JAWS script that actually runs off of the
clock in Windows. it's a script that runs in the background,
so what ever you're doing, you'll get an hourly, half
hourly, or quarterly chime followed by JAWS announcing what
time it is. there's no interface, but the chime can be
adjusted or turned off. this, I have used. I suggest to
listen to the demonstration first.

A Demonstration of the cuckoo clock scripts for JAWS
http://jaws-users.com/audio/JAWS/cuckoo.mp3

JAWS Talking Cuckoo Clock Scripts written by David Truong
and Andrew hart
http://jaws-users.com/scripts/JAWS/cuckoo.zip

to whom ever wants to try it, have fun.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@...]
Sent: Tuesday, Jan 31, 2017 2:30 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Hourly Chime

That would be cool if there is. I hope so.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Mike Rogers
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Hourly Chime

Hi folks.
I have an hourly chime, with Window Eyes. I'm trying to use
Jaws most of the time, to get used to it. Is there an
hourly sound that comes with Jaws? No big deal, but sort of
miss it.

Mike

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com
www.woodeneyemusic.com









.


Re: Talking Desktop Clock

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Anybody got the URL for the APH model (might as well support the local supplier)? I have the basic one, but would like to swap it for the one that goes into the startup menu.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 1:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Talking Desktop Clock

I have one that I have used for years. there is options of drifferent clock
sounds. No talking
I currently hav a Cu cu sound that chimes every hour. I can change to every
15 minutes, 30 or 45 or hour in a half
If anyone is interested do let me know and I cn send it to you
sugar

'I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the
night.

Sugar

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Rogers
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 10:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Talking Desktop Clock

I downloaded the Talking Desktop Clock, and here's my obbservations. Thanks
for the help. The chime works just fine. The one downside is the choice of
sounds. I was hoping for a clock chime, but the choices didn't have one.
I'm using one called "Mello". It's a gentle musical sound and works for me.
Ther's also voices that speak the time, on the hour or more often.

Mike

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com
www.woodeneyemusic.com


Re: Talking Desktop Clock

Sugar <sugarsyl71@...>
 

I have one that I have used for years. there is options of drifferent clock
sounds. No talking
I currently hav a Cu cu sound that chimes every hour. I can change to every
15 minutes, 30 or 45 or hour in a half
If anyone is interested do let me know and I cn send it to you
sugar

'I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the
night.

Sugar

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Rogers
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 10:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Talking Desktop Clock

I downloaded the Talking Desktop Clock, and here's my obbservations. Thanks
for the help. The chime works just fine. The one downside is the choice of
sounds. I was hoping for a clock chime, but the choices didn't have one.
I'm using one called "Mello". It's a gentle musical sound and works for me.
Ther's also voices that speak the time, on the hour or more often.

Mike

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com
www.woodeneyemusic.com


Re: uninstalling programs from my computer

 

Les,

       Thanks very much for that.  Since I can see the Uninstall button and have historically just done the "point and click action" I never even thought about the fact that there should be a context menu available, and I don't know why that didn't occur to me.  It's far easier to hit either the Applications/Menu Key if your machine has one or SHIFT+F10 to activate the context menu in the manner you suggest.
--
Brian

     A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

    ~ Saul BellowTo Jerusalem and Back


Re: uninstalling programs from my computer

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Hi Brian,

Here's another option. Once activating Programs and Features and highlighting the program desired, you can hit Shift-F10. Arrow down until reaching the uninstall option. You might have to use both down and up arrow keys, but the uninstall option will show.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 11:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: uninstalling programs from my computer

When you open Programs and Features you will be presented with a list of every installed program on your system (and probably some bloatware that came installed on it). You simply select the program you wish to uninstall and then navigate to the Command Module Toolbar, Organize Button. Then you right arrow to the Uninstall button and activate it.

Navigating the Programs and Features dialog with a screen reader is not entirely straightforward, as you'll never land on the Uninstall button during "brute force tabbing" and I cannot find any method to get to it directly. But once you are on the Organize button in the Command Module Toolbar a single right arrow press will put you on the Uninstall button.

--
Brian

Is it progress if a cannibal uses knife and fork? ~ Stanislaw J. Lec


Event: Site Maintenance, Thursday, 2 February 2017

 

This may end up coming out as an announcement on all groups, but since it hasn't yet I'm sharing it here.

There will be a planned outage on Groups.io tomorrow night.  Details are available on this Groups.io webpage.
--
Brian

     A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

    ~ Saul BellowTo Jerusalem and Back


Talking Desktop Clock

Mike Rogers
 

I downloaded the Talking Desktop Clock, and here's my obbservations. Thanks for the help. The chime works just fine. The one downside is the choice of sounds. I was hoping for a clock chime, but the choices didn't have one. I'm using one called "Mello". It's a gentle musical sound and works for me. Ther's also voices that speak the time, on the hour or more often.

Mike

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com
www.woodeneyemusic.com


Re: narrator for windows 10

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Exactly, you would hear Jaws speaking as well as Narrator. I bought Eloquence for Windows from Code Factory to use with Narrator and I just tried it, it talks pretty much simultaneously so it’s like double speech. Also, if you use touch and start narrator it gives you a message that another application prevents it from using touch or something like that.

Anyhow, it’s easy to turn off Jaws with Jaws Key+F4 and to then press Windows+Enter which starts Narrator, when you want to use Jaws again press Windows+Enter again to turn off Narrator again and restart Jaws with whatever hotkey you have set up.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 6:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: narrator for windows 10

 

Yes, but I doubt you’ll want to; it would be rather confusing.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lauren Snyder
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 8:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: narrator for windows 10

 

If you have Jaws, can you run Narrator simultaneously? I don’t know much about Narrator at all, but the news seems exciting.

 

Regards,

Lauren Snyder

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 12:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: narrator for windows 10

 

Hi Keith,

 

Narrator on Windows 10 is 100% better, it still isn’t Jaws, but you can really use it to navigate Windows and there are actually a few situations where it reads more than Jaws.

When the next major Windows 10 update is released which is supposed to happen in April, you can actually start narrator right at the beginning of a new Windows installation and navigate the entire Windows setup without sighted help. There was just a Podcast on Cool Blind Tech where somebody who registered for the Windows Insider program demonstrated this and it is totally cool and really makes a huge difference. I guess in that new update Microsoft added the control key to start narrator which is why Joseph said you soon have to press Control+Windows+Enter and not just Windows+Enter, but it’s probably at least another two and a half to 3 months depending on when in April this will be released to the public and when you will actually get it.

I recently decided to purchase Eloquence as a SAPI5 voice from Code Factory which allows me to install it so that I can set up Narrator to use Eloquence. Voiceover on the Mac may still a bit further along than Narrator, but then again I am only using Narrator in a few very limited situations and I’m probably not as familiar with it as I could be and don’t use it to its full potential, but I think it won’t be too long before the Microsoft Windows out of the box experience rivals Voiceover and that for people who are just basic users who want to to email, web browsing and a few other things Narrator will be enough.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 2:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: narrator for windows 10

 

Hi,

 

Is Narrator on Windows 7 and Windows 10 similar, or is Narrator on Windows 10 better??

 

Thanks, Keith

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Melissa Stott
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 3:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: narrator for windows 10

 

I did try Windows key plus the enter key, and that worked.  So, this is correct.

 

On 1/29/2017 12:26 PM, Hank & Patty wrote:

 

Hello Robbie,

 

You turn on/off narrator by holding down the windows key and pressing the enter key.

 

 

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Hank

 

 

Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 12:32 PM

Subject: narrator for windows 10

 

Hello all,

Got a new windows 10 laptop, and I would like to install JFW18 from a flash drive on it.

I will need to use Narrator initially. What are the commands to turn on, navigate, and turn off narrator?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Robbie

 

millerrobbie@...

 

 


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Re: uninstalling programs from my computer

 

When you open Programs and Features you will be presented with a list of every installed program on your system (and probably some bloatware that came installed on it).  You simply select the program you wish to uninstall and then navigate to the Command Module Toolbar, Organize Button.  Then you right arrow to the Uninstall button and activate it.

Navigating the Programs and Features dialog with a screen reader is not entirely straightforward, as you'll never land on the Uninstall button during "brute force tabbing" and I cannot find any method to get to it directly.  But once you  are on the Organize button in the Command Module Toolbar a single right arrow press will put you on the Uninstall button.

--
Brian

     Is it progress if a cannibal uses knife and fork?  ~ Stanislaw J. Lec


Re: uninstalling programs from my computer

Elvia Jauregui <elviajauregui@...>
 

just to be clear, I need to go to my control panel and look for programs and features? once there, everything else will just fall into place for uninstalling?

elvia

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 1, 2017, at 6:58 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

You use the "Programs and Features" dialog of Control Panel to uninstall programs.  Or at least that's what I've always done since it's a central location for doing so.
--
Brian

     Is it progress if a cannibal uses knife and fork?  ~ Stanislaw J. Lec


Re: uninstalling programs from my computer

 

You use the "Programs and Features" dialog of Control Panel to uninstall programs.  Or at least that's what I've always done since it's a central location for doing so.
--
Brian

     Is it progress if a cannibal uses knife and fork?  ~ Stanislaw J. Lec


Re: Question regarding antivirus program

 

Windows Defender places an icon in the System Tray when it's running.  You can also access it directly through Settings, Update & security, Windows Defender pane.  If you do that with something like AVG running I think the pane tells you that Windows Defender is not running because you have another antivirus program installed.  Otherwise you'll have an "Open Windows Defender" button for the user interface and a number of other toggle switches and a button to force Windows Defender to to an offline scan at system startup if you suspect you have something like a rootkit infection that has to be removed before the operating system itself is brought online.

Unless something has gotten screwed up somehow, Windows Defender is automatically re-enabled if you uninstall a third party antivirus/security product and Windows detects this has been done.  You may get a warning that you need to turn Windows Defender on, and if that's the case you do so through the settings location mentioned above.
--
Brian

     Is it progress if a cannibal uses knife and fork?  ~ Stanislaw J. Lec


Re: narrator for windows 10

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Yes, but I doubt you’ll want to; it would be rather confusing.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lauren Snyder
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 8:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: narrator for windows 10

 

If you have Jaws, can you run Narrator simultaneously? I don’t know much about Narrator at all, but the news seems exciting.

 

Regards,

Lauren Snyder

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 12:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: narrator for windows 10

 

Hi Keith,

 

Narrator on Windows 10 is 100% better, it still isn’t Jaws, but you can really use it to navigate Windows and there are actually a few situations where it reads more than Jaws.

When the next major Windows 10 update is released which is supposed to happen in April, you can actually start narrator right at the beginning of a new Windows installation and navigate the entire Windows setup without sighted help. There was just a Podcast on Cool Blind Tech where somebody who registered for the Windows Insider program demonstrated this and it is totally cool and really makes a huge difference. I guess in that new update Microsoft added the control key to start narrator which is why Joseph said you soon have to press Control+Windows+Enter and not just Windows+Enter, but it’s probably at least another two and a half to 3 months depending on when in April this will be released to the public and when you will actually get it.

I recently decided to purchase Eloquence as a SAPI5 voice from Code Factory which allows me to install it so that I can set up Narrator to use Eloquence. Voiceover on the Mac may still a bit further along than Narrator, but then again I am only using Narrator in a few very limited situations and I’m probably not as familiar with it as I could be and don’t use it to its full potential, but I think it won’t be too long before the Microsoft Windows out of the box experience rivals Voiceover and that for people who are just basic users who want to to email, web browsing and a few other things Narrator will be enough.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 2:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: narrator for windows 10

 

Hi,

 

Is Narrator on Windows 7 and Windows 10 similar, or is Narrator on Windows 10 better??

 

Thanks, Keith

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Melissa Stott
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 3:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: narrator for windows 10

 

I did try Windows key plus the enter key, and that worked.  So, this is correct.

 

On 1/29/2017 12:26 PM, Hank & Patty wrote:

 

Hello Robbie,

 

You turn on/off narrator by holding down the windows key and pressing the enter key.

 

 

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Hank

 

 

Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 12:32 PM

Subject: narrator for windows 10

 

Hello all,

Got a new windows 10 laptop, and I would like to install JFW18 from a flash drive on it.

I will need to use Narrator initially. What are the commands to turn on, navigate, and turn off narrator?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Robbie

 

millerrobbie@...

 

 


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Re: narrator for windows 10

Lauren Snyder
 

If you have Jaws, can you run Narrator simultaneously? I don’t know much about Narrator at all, but the news seems exciting.

 

Regards,

Lauren Snyder

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 12:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: narrator for windows 10

 

Hi Keith,

 

Narrator on Windows 10 is 100% better, it still isn’t Jaws, but you can really use it to navigate Windows and there are actually a few situations where it reads more than Jaws.

When the next major Windows 10 update is released which is supposed to happen in April, you can actually start narrator right at the beginning of a new Windows installation and navigate the entire Windows setup without sighted help. There was just a Podcast on Cool Blind Tech where somebody who registered for the Windows Insider program demonstrated this and it is totally cool and really makes a huge difference. I guess in that new update Microsoft added the control key to start narrator which is why Joseph said you soon have to press Control+Windows+Enter and not just Windows+Enter, but it’s probably at least another two and a half to 3 months depending on when in April this will be released to the public and when you will actually get it.

I recently decided to purchase Eloquence as a SAPI5 voice from Code Factory which allows me to install it so that I can set up Narrator to use Eloquence. Voiceover on the Mac may still a bit further along than Narrator, but then again I am only using Narrator in a few very limited situations and I’m probably not as familiar with it as I could be and don’t use it to its full potential, but I think it won’t be too long before the Microsoft Windows out of the box experience rivals Voiceover and that for people who are just basic users who want to to email, web browsing and a few other things Narrator will be enough.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 2:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: narrator for windows 10

 

Hi,

 

Is Narrator on Windows 7 and Windows 10 similar, or is Narrator on Windows 10 better??

 

Thanks, Keith

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Melissa Stott
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 3:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: narrator for windows 10

 

I did try Windows key plus the enter key, and that worked.  So, this is correct.

 

On 1/29/2017 12:26 PM, Hank & Patty wrote:

 

Hello Robbie,

 

You turn on/off narrator by holding down the windows key and pressing the enter key.

 

 

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Hank

 

 

Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 12:32 PM

Subject: narrator for windows 10

 

Hello all,

Got a new windows 10 laptop, and I would like to install JFW18 from a flash drive on it.

I will need to use Narrator initially. What are the commands to turn on, navigate, and turn off narrator?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Robbie

 

millerrobbie@...

 

 


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Re: Question regarding antivirus program

Lauren Snyder
 

How do I know if Windows Defender is on? I have currently AVG and find it slows down my laptop to no end!

 

Can I uninstall AVG and Windows Defender will automatically go into effect?

 

Thank you.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 5:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question regarding antivirus program

 

From the era of Windows 8 and onward Windows Defender has been an antivirus-antimalware-antispyware program, plus more.   You cannot run a third-party antivirus and Windows Defender at the same time.  Virtually all of the major third-party antivirus programs integrate into the Windows Security Center and will cause Windows Defender to be disabled upon their installation and re-enabled if they are uninstalled.  You should never attempt to run any two antivirus programs that actively monitor a system at the same time.
--
Brian

     Is it progress if a cannibal uses knife and fork?  ~ Stanislaw J. Lec


uninstalling programs from my computer

Elvia Jauregui <elviajauregui@...>
 

Sent from my iPhone hi guys,

how do I add or remove programs from my computer? I need to uninstall some programs, but I don't know how to do that. I am using Windows 8.1 and JAWS 16 and office 2013. Any suggestions or ideas would be gratefully appreciated. Thank you

elvia


More on Malware Bytes Schedules

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Hi Mike and Interested Others,

I think I understand why the scheduling tab appears to be inaccessible at
first glance. When you activate this tab, you will reach a table which
appears to be blank. But if you continue to tab over, Jaws will report the
occurrence of another table, and it is here that you can add or edit a
schedule. I tried to create a new schedule from here and had no problems
with the interface. I already edited an existing schedule with no problems
as well. Just keep tabbing past the occurrence of the second reported table
and you should find the options you desire. Hope this helps.

Les


Re: MSSE vs. Malwarebytes

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

I'm running both Defender and Malware Bytes and am not aware of any problems
or conflicts. I was also told by a Microsoft representative that there
should be no problems with running both products, at least with Windows 10.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gudrun
Brunot
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 2:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: MSSE vs. Malwarebytes

Hi all: Since I have heard two diametrically opposed views on whether
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes have a conflict, I found this
article that lists some steps one can take in order to use the two without
the possible conflict. There have, apparently been some occurrences of the
two interfering with each other, though some forum I went to also had many
posts saying there was no problem. The steps outlined are a bit
complicated, but if you're concerned, here's the link to the article, and
once you're on the website, just find conflict on the page to get past the
junk.



https://support.malwarebytes.com/customer/portal/articles/2650097--malwareby
tes-and-microsoft-security-essentials-conflicts?b_id=6442



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Re: What is a good, hopefully free, anti-virus that works with JAWS 17 and Windows 10?

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Hi Mike,

Well, good luck. Just to be clear, I'm running Jaws 18, Malware Bytes
Premium version 3.06 with the latest public build of Windows 10.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is a good, hopefully free, anti-virus that works with JAWS
17 and Windows 10?

Hi Les,

Well, maybe I'll give it another shot. Thank you very much for your input.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Les Kriegler <mailto:kriegler@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: What is a good, hopefully free, anti-virus that works with JAWS
17 and Windows 10?

Hi Mike,

Well, I only tried it once after your inquiry. I'm running this under
Windows 10, and it's the Premium version, Other than that, there are no
differences.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 4:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: What is a good, hopefully free, anti-virus that works with JAWS
17 and Windows 10?

Hi Les,

Exact steps I used, but like I said they wouldn't work consistently, & this
was attempted with 3 desktops & 1 laptop all running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit.
I also tried with updating from 2.2 to the latest 3.0, & fresh installs of
3.0 after removing using the MWB removal tool. What I didn't try was
changing any settings because I wanted to make comparisons between 2.2 & 3.0
as the computers were.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Les Kriegler <mailto:kriegler@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
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Subject: Re: What is a good, hopefully free, anti-virus that works with JAWS
17 and Windows 10?

Well, accessibility is subjective to a degree. As to your point, I was able
to edit a scheduled scan. I chose the Schedule Tab by checking it with the
enter key. Then I hit the space barr on Edit Schedule anmd was able to
adjust the time, frequency and any other setting and then save my changes.

Les

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Yes, you can navigate it, but being accessible is another thing. Have you
tried doing a simple accessibility task, like scheduling a scan? I couldn't
get the scheduler to work with any kind of reliability factor at all. I'm a
big stickler about the difference between being able to navigate & being
accessible.
Take care.
Mike
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Subject: Re: What is a good, hopefully free, anti-virus that works with JAWS
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I'm running Malware Byes Premium version 3.06 and can get reliable
information by tabbing from field to field from within the interface. To
date, I haven't had any threats detected, but I can access the various tabs
and dialogs in a reasonable manner.

Les

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Subject: Re: What is a good, hopefully free, anti-virus that works with JAWS
17 and Windows 10?

Hi Maria,

Yes, it still updates, but you need to know how to turn off program
updating, so only the definitions update, but you need to be running the Pro
version to have the option to turn off program updating.
Take care.
Mike
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So is MB 1.75 still updating then?




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On 1/30/2017 12:09 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:



And MB 1.75 still remains the most accessible version, and still works with
the same database definitions as the later versions.

Gerald



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Subject: Re: What is a good, hopefully free, anti-virus that works with JAWS
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Hi Tim,

MWB 3.0 is not accessible. You can navigate it, but accessible it's not.
MWB 2.2 is accessible with a little practice.
eb
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Mike
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Hello Brian,

I greatly appreciate the feedback. Is Malware Bytes version 3 accessible?
My paid license is an annual subscription, and I assume it applies to both
the current and any previous version of MB; I have been running their
version 1.75, since I was warned on this list that version 2 was not
accessible. I have not tried Version 3. Please advise, and much thanks!

Tim Ford


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Tim,

The current version of Windows Defender that comes with Windows 10
is a perfectly serviceable and accessible (at least for the
moment) antivirus program. Depending on which version of Malwarebytes you
have a license for it may, or may not, be a straight antimalware program or
a combination antivirus-antimalware program. The folks at Malwarebytes are
claiming that version 3.0 "makes antivirus obsolete." Given their
reputation and what I would presume is their desire to keep it I'd have to
believe their marketing claims stand up in practice.
--
Brian

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