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Word Question again

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I’m slowly but surely getting 2016 to work as I want it to, but I still can’t consolidate multiple documents into the same window; is this option no longer available  It helps when your desktop is crowded.

 

ted

 

Ted Lisle, PH .D. medicaid Spec 3, (502)564-2574

 


Re: Good accessible Word to PDF primer

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I know what you mean. I’ll never forget the first one I tried. Thank goodness it was only a free trial version; it created files in computer language, suitable for printing!

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 10:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Good accessible Word to PDF primer

 

Ted,

        While MS-Word has been able to "save as PDF" since even before 2013, I'm curious as to whether 2013 and later actually maintain what are essentially edit box form fields in an MS-Word document in the PDF created from it?

         I've never been impressed with Microsoft's "Save as PDF" capabilities in earlier versions of Word simply because the PDFs they create are routinely much larger files than other converters create, with no obvious difference in the end result.

          Word 2010's save as PDF does not maintain the edit box form fields in the PDF for fill in using Adobe Reader or Adobe Acrobat.  None of the other PDF conversion utilities I have at my disposal do, either.   If Word 2013 does then this is a major leap forward.
--
Brian

     Is it progress if a cannibal uses knife and fork?  ~ Stanislaw J. Lec


Re: JAWS and Dragon

Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@...>
 

No scripts.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis Brown
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Dragon

 

Do you have scripts for Dragon that you can share?

Thanks,

Dennis

 

Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 5:36 AM

Subject: Re: JAWS and Dragon

 

It is always encouraging to read that something one does every day cannot be done.

I have used Dragon Naturally Speaking for years.  With a little help with the set-up, Dragon Naturally Speaking works pretty well.  It works better with one of the middleware packages, but if one works in a large corporation or where data security is a priority, the middleware products are a huge pain and often conflict.

So, one may indeed use Dragon Naturally Speaking without a middleware product.  Trying to install and train on your own, however, is a challenge.

Is it worth the effort?

Until version 11.5, I would have said “NO.”  The benefits just were not there.  Dragon made too many mistakes.  For versions after 11.5, however, the recognition is so good that it is definitely worth the effort, particularly if you create a great deal of original text.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mich Verrier
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Dragon

 

hi to my knollige it doesn’t. you have to have that third party softwhere to bridge the gap between jaws and draggin. even then from what I have herd from people who have tried this it is a real bitch to try to get these 2 programs to coroperate properly to make them selvs work together. hth. from Mich.

 

From: Betsy Binney

Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 3:52 PM

Subject: JAWS and Dragon

 

Greetings,

 

Does anybody know if Dragon  Naturally Speaking works with JAWS without a third party software such as Jaw Bones? 

 

Thanks,

Betsy


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Re: Good accessible Word to PDF primer

 

Ted,

        While MS-Word has been able to "save as PDF" since even before 2013, I'm curious as to whether 2013 and later actually maintain what are essentially edit box form fields in an MS-Word document in the PDF created from it?

         I've never been impressed with Microsoft's "Save as PDF" capabilities in earlier versions of Word simply because the PDFs they create are routinely much larger files than other converters create, with no obvious difference in the end result.

          Word 2010's save as PDF does not maintain the edit box form fields in the PDF for fill in using Adobe Reader or Adobe Acrobat.  None of the other PDF conversion utilities I have at my disposal do, either.   If Word 2013 does then this is a major leap forward.
--
Brian

     Is it progress if a cannibal uses knife and fork?  ~ Stanislaw J. Lec


Re: JAWS and Dragon

Dennis Brown
 

Do you have scripts for Dragon that you can share?
Thanks,
Dennis
 

Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS and Dragon
 

It is always encouraging to read that something one does every day cannot be done.

I have used Dragon Naturally Speaking for years.  With a little help with the set-up, Dragon Naturally Speaking works pretty well.  It works better with one of the middleware packages, but if one works in a large corporation or where data security is a priority, the middleware products are a huge pain and often conflict.

So, one may indeed use Dragon Naturally Speaking without a middleware product.  Trying to install and train on your own, however, is a challenge.

Is it worth the effort?

Until version 11.5, I would have said “NO.”  The benefits just were not there.  Dragon made too many mistakes.  For versions after 11.5, however, the recognition is so good that it is definitely worth the effort, particularly if you create a great deal of original text.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mich Verrier
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Dragon

 

hi to my knollige it doesn’t. you have to have that third party softwhere to bridge the gap between jaws and draggin. even then from what I have herd from people who have tried this it is a real bitch to try to get these 2 programs to coroperate properly to make them selvs work together. hth. from Mich.

 

From: Betsy Binney

Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 3:52 PM

Subject: JAWS and Dragon

 

Greetings,

 

Does anybody know if Dragon  Naturally Speaking works with JAWS without a third party software such as Jaw Bones? 

 

Thanks,

Betsy


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Re: Reading math using JAWS

Soronel Haetir
 

Does it show up as "math content"? if so, try hitting enter on it and
waiting for the math viewer to appear.

In math viewer you can use left and right to move between elements at
the current level, down to drill into the current element and up to
return to the prior level.

If it does not show as "math content" I'm not sure what you would do.

On 1/13/17, joel.benjamin@... <joel.benjamin@...> wrote:
Hi,

Can someone please guide me how to read math keyed in mathtype in powerpoint
using JAWS?

Thanks,

Joel
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Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...


Reading math using JAWS

joel.benjamin@...
 

Hi,

Can someone please guide me how to read math keyed in mathtype in powerpoint using JAWS?

Thanks,

Joel


Reasking. Are there current problems with A V G and JAWS 16 or 17?RE: J18.0.2324 Update Available, Download Links & What's New

ptusing <ptusing@...>
 

Hi,

I am using Windows 7.

 

Many thanks.  To share your thoughts with  A V G, call 844 259 8811.


Re: Are there scripts for DropBox?

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Marianne!

 

Yeah, I think JAWS 18 (or thereabouts) has scripts for it.  My JAWS version is 13.  It does not.  And, indeed I am using the DropBox desktop app.  So, that is what I am searching for: JAWS scripts for the DropBox desktop app.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Are there scripts for DropBox?

 

Richard, I am using JAWS 18 and Windows 10. I just went to the folder I wanted to share and hit my applications key. One of my choices was share and I went from there. I practiced sharing the folder with me and it worked.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 9:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Are there scripts for DropBox?

 

Hi!

 

Recently, I began using DropBox, but am finding it pretty inaccessible.  In particular, the screen that appears when you go to “Share” a folder you created is really bad.  I had to get sighted help to “invite” someone to this folder.  So, are there any JAWS scripts for DropBox that will make it more accessible?

 

Thanks,

richard


Re: JAWS and Dragon

Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@...>
 

It is always encouraging to read that something one does every day cannot be done.

I have used Dragon Naturally Speaking for years.  With a little help with the set-up, Dragon Naturally Speaking works pretty well.  It works better with one of the middleware packages, but if one works in a large corporation or where data security is a priority, the middleware products are a huge pain and often conflict.

So, one may indeed use Dragon Naturally Speaking without a middleware product.  Trying to install and train on your own, however, is a challenge.

Is it worth the effort?

Until version 11.5, I would have said “NO.”  The benefits just were not there.  Dragon made too many mistakes.  For versions after 11.5, however, the recognition is so good that it is definitely worth the effort, particularly if you create a great deal of original text.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mich Verrier
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Dragon

 

hi to my knollige it doesn’t. you have to have that third party softwhere to bridge the gap between jaws and draggin. even then from what I have herd from people who have tried this it is a real bitch to try to get these 2 programs to coroperate properly to make them selvs work together. hth. from Mich.

 

From: Betsy Binney

Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 3:52 PM

Subject: JAWS and Dragon

 

Greetings,

 

Does anybody know if Dragon  Naturally Speaking works with JAWS without a third party software such as Jaw Bones? 

 

Thanks,

Betsy


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Re: JAWS and Dragon

Mich Verrier
 

hi to my knollige it doesn’t. you have to have that third party softwhere to bridge the gap between jaws and draggin. even then from what I have herd from people who have tried this it is a real bitch to try to get these 2 programs to coroperate properly to make them selvs work together. hth. from Mich.
 

From: Betsy Binney
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 3:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Dragon
 

Greetings,

 

Does anybody know if Dragon  Naturally Speaking works with JAWS without a third party software such as Jaw Bones? 

 

Thanks,

Betsy


JAWS and Dragon

Betsy Binney
 

Greetings,

 

Does anybody know if Dragon  Naturally Speaking works with JAWS without a third party software such as Jaw Bones? 

 

Thanks,

Betsy


Re: Are there scripts for DropBox?

Marianne Denning
 

Richard, I am using JAWS 18 and Windows 10. I just went to the folder I wanted to share and hit my applications key. One of my choices was share and I went from there. I practiced sharing the folder with me and it worked.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 9:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Are there scripts for DropBox?

 

Hi!

 

Recently, I began using DropBox, but am finding it pretty inaccessible.  In particular, the screen that appears when you go to “Share” a folder you created is really bad.  I had to get sighted help to “invite” someone to this folder.  So, are there any JAWS scripts for DropBox that will make it more accessible?

 

Thanks,

richard


Are there scripts for DropBox?

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi!

 

Recently, I began using DropBox, but am finding it pretty inaccessible.  In particular, the screen that appears when you go to “Share” a folder you created is really bad.  I had to get sighted help to “invite” someone to this folder.  So, are there any JAWS scripts for DropBox that will make it more accessible?

 

Thanks,

richard


Re: Jaws Not reporting correct amount of files in windows 7

Gudrun Brunot
 

Brian, I've had that problem a long time. It can occur, then disappear, for
no apparent reason. It happened the first time when I was doing a
horrendously big transcription job for a company. They'd sent me over 80
files to do in a dropbox we'd set up. I panicked, thinking I'd lost over 80
files, and set about recopying them. I even (stupidly) wrote the product
manager to see if they had disappeared from his dropbox as well, which, of
course, they hadn't.

Then, the next day, Jaws listed the correct number of files.

Gudrun

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of brian
albriton
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 1:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws Not reporting correct amount of files in windows 7

This is in Windows explorer, windows 7 and jaws 18.

I've noticed of late, jaws says things like the file name 7 of 7.

This is where filename would be any filename and the number what jaws sees
in that particular folder.

Typically, there's just a heck of a lot more files than jaws reports and
they are all there in that I can arrow to them quite handily.

Does jaws see only so much of the window perhaps? Just curious and if I have
to live with it not a real problem.



T



Brian Albriton

iPhone 2136103315

cocanut50@...


Re: My laptop lost sound

Pat Byrne
 

Might in fact be accessible Mike but if the drivers are compromised you'll never hear it.
Pat ByrneAt 11:58 AM 1/12/2017, you wrote:

Why is it in today's world, that that windows pop up you mention ain't even
accessible for JAWS?
I swear, we take 2 steps forward, and then the industry moves us back 5!.
It's like running an expensive race; in which you are never to win.
Accessibility, my arse!
And that's all I got to say about that. Cause I'm just dust in the wind!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 12:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: My laptop lost sound

Hi,

I have a HP Windows 10 laptop with JAWS18. Last week Windows 10 did an
update and I got a popup window about my sound card needing the drivers
re-installed if I was having sound problems. Luckily my sound was okay, but
this might be an avenue to have a sighted person explore, checking if your
sound card drivers need updating/re-installing.

I know that is not all that helpful, but that is one popup window I got that
JAWS did not land focus on.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gezim
Rexha
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: My laptop lost sound

Hi all,

Last evening, for some reason, my laptop became speechless. Initially, I
thought there was something wrong with JAWS, but there was no sound even
when I activatet Narrator, or even when I asked a sighted person t play
something on Youtube.

My question is if anybody can tell me how to activate sound? I am using HP
laptop with Windows 10 and latest JAWS version.

Cheers,
Gezim

Sent from my iPhone







Re: Jaws Not reporting correct amount of files in windows 7

Ann Byrne
 

Try reading the number of files with JAWS-Pagedown. Sometimes that works better.

At 03:02 PM 1/12/2017, you wrote:
This is in Windows explorer, windows 7 and jaws 18.
I've noticed of late, jaws says things like the file name 7 of 7.
This is where filename would be any filename and the number what jaws sees in that particular folder.
Typically, there's just a heck of a lot more files than jaws reports and they are all there in that I can arrow to them quite handily.
Does jaws see only so much of the window perhaps? Just curious and if I have to live with it not a real problem.

T

Brian Albriton
iPhone 2136103315
cocanut50@...


Re: My laptop lost sound

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Hi David and Brian,

If you type "Speaker" in the Windows 10 search box I have to arrow down 3 times to find "Adjust system volume" if I type "Speakers" with an "s" at the end it's only twice. I can, of course, type "Adjust System" and then I'm directly on Adjust System Volume. But I also like David's method of typing "Sndvol" followed by enter at the run command or to set up a shortcut with hot key for it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 12:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: My laptop lost sound


hello;

well; you could find out what the keystroke is to mute and unmute the sound on your computer, or you could create a shortcut to the sndvol.exe, to unmute the sound your self.


If you wish to put a shortcut to:
Sndvol.exe, on your desktop try the following;



1, go to desktop,
Windows key+m,

2, press the keystroke,
Ctrl+spacebar,
To unselect all icons.

3, press the applications key, and down arrow and enter on, New sub menu.

4, now arrow and enter on,
New shortcut.

5,
Now type the following in the edit box,
sndvol.exe
6, tab next, press enter.
You will see/hear;
sndvol.exe
your asked to give the shortcut a name, you can leave the sndvol.exe, or you could name it for example; volume.
Tab finish press enter.

Now, if you would like a hot-key,

1, desktop,
Press the letter "s" until you hear,
Sndvol.exe
Or the letter "v" if you've named the shortcut volume,

2, now press alt+enter to bring up the properties,

3, tab until you hear;
Shortcut key none,
Here you could type "v", or whatever letter you wish, Now press enter.
Now you have a shortcut with a hot-key.
now if your sound becomes muted,

first activate your shortcut, alt+ctrl+v=volume,

tab one time to the mute/unmute sound button, press spacebar, you should hear jaws again, just alt f4.
or, you can,

1, WindowsKey+r=run,

2, type in:
sndvol
press enter,

3, tab once, press spacebar, sound will now be unmuted.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of brian albriton
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 2:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: My laptop lost sound

In windows seven at least, press windows key.
Type the word speakers.
Arrow down twice.
Press enter.
In windows 7, this usually lands you in the volume control.'
Start arrowing up and if the volume is at zero, it will increase.
You could actually press the home key and you would have full volume.
This is all assuming the volume just got set to zero.

This has worked for me on more than one occasion.
By the way, if you press the home key to get to top volume, don't do that with head phones.
Safer I dare say to just arrow up.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: My laptop lost sound

Most laptops have a key combination which will mute the audio. If you have an external USB keyboard with a mute and volume buttons you could plug that in, wait a minute or so and then try pressing the mute and/or volume up buttons.
As others suggested, if you had a sighted person around trying the youtube they could check it for you easily enough.
If it turns out that is the problem you may want to make sure you find out which particular key combination your laptop uses for this and also which key combination will be volume up and down.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: My laptop lost sound

in addition, I wonder if the audio has been muted in the mixer in the system tray?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Dave Carlson [mailto:dgcarlson@...]
Sent: Thursday, Jan 12, 2017 1:32 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: My laptop lost sound

...wonder if the mute button was pressed? A simple thing to do without being aware.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Maria Campbell" <lucky1inct@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:07
Subject: Re: My laptop lost sound


This may be off topic, but I share your concern about one step forward four steps back when it comes to accessibility. My main concern continues to be accessibility and the lack thereof, especially when it comes to virus protection. I can't understand why NFB or ACB or any other blindness concern hasn't taken on the fight to get this continuing issue resolved.


Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 1/12/2017 11:58 AM, Mike Ulrich wrote:
Why is it in today's world, that that windows pop up you mention ain't even accessible for JAWS?
I swear, we take 2 steps forward, and then the industry moves us back 5!.
It's like running an expensive race; in which you are never to win.
Accessibility, my arse!
And that's all I got to say about that. Cause I'm just dust in the wind!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lee Anne Atkinson
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 12:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: My laptop lost sound

Hi,

I have a HP Windows 10 laptop with JAWS18. Last week Windows 10 did an update and I got a popup window about my sound card needing the drivers re-installed if I was having sound problems. Luckily my sound was okay, but this might be an avenue to have a sighted person explore, checking if your sound card drivers need updating/re-installing.

I know that is not all that helpful, but that is one popup window I got that JAWS did not land focus on.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: My laptop lost sound

Hi all,

Last evening, for some reason, my laptop became speechless. Initially, I thought there was something wrong with JAWS, but there was no sound even when I activatet Narrator, or even when I asked a sighted person t play something on Youtube.

My question is if anybody can tell me how to activate sound? I am using HP laptop with Windows 10 and latest JAWS version.

Cheers,
Gezim

Sent from my iPhone















.


Re: How to find those ASCII character numbers for a symbol.

ratshtron
 

great, glad to have helped.


Legend has it that on Thursday 1/12/2017 01:04 PM, Tim Ford said:
----------------------------------------
Thanks! The 3 times press was the trick. I
remembered something about pressing more than
once quickly, but I had stopped at 2 presses. Thanks again!

Tim Ford


-----Original Message----- From: ratshtron
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 9:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to find those ASCII character numbers for a symbol.

have you tried pressing the numpad 5 three times
quickly? that should render the ascii character
number. and to enter that in to your search, you
would lock your numpad and then hold the left alt
key down and enter the number with your numberpad
for example the following character was entered that way:

â

i held the alt key down and entered 0226.

Legend has it that on Thursday 1/12/2017 01:58 AM, Tim Ford said:
----------------------------------------
HI All,

I am trying to remove a lot of extra characters
in a Word document. JAWS tells me only
“blankâ€over these characters, and I am
am
trying to identify just what they are so I can
do a global search and replace. I tried the
“special charactersâ€menu in the global
al
search and replace feature in Word, and the line
break symbol was the closest on the list I could
find, but the ^m symbol was not present. How
can I figure out what these are and get them out
of there without doing a very time-consuming manual cleanup?

Tim Ford
----------------------------------------






----------------------------------------


Jaws Not reporting correct amount of files in windows 7

brian albriton
 

This is in Windows explorer, windows 7 and jaws 18.

I’ve noticed of late, jaws says things like the file name 7 of 7.

This is where filename would be any filename and the number what jaws sees in that particular folder.

Typically, there’s just a heck of a lot more files than jaws reports and they are all there in that I can arrow to them quite handily.

Does jaws see only so much of the window perhaps? Just curious and if I have to live with it not a real problem.

 

T

 

Brian Albriton

iPhone 2136103315

cocanut50@...