Date   

Re: Folder List View Question

 

Tom,

            Have you recently altered either your Folder Options settings or your view settings for some "tree branch" of folders?

            I'm wondering whether JAWS might not play well with certain views in Windows Explorer.  This is particularly odd if it just started happening with no change to JAWS or something in the way files/folders are presented.

            If you are able to send a screen shot of File Explorer in some random folder that doesn't contain anything of a sensitive nature I can see if I can replicate the error on JAWS 18 under Win10.

Brian


Folder List View Question

Tom Behler
 

Hello, all.

 

I have just discovered an issue with my Windows Explorer folder list views.

 

When I open a given folder, Jaws now no longer tells me how many files are in that folder.  In other words, it lists the first file, and simply says “one of one”, even though there are multiple files in the particular folder.

 

How can I get Jaws to announce the number of files in a given folder?

 

I tried maximizing the screen, but it is already maximized.

 

I’m using Jaws 17 and Windows 7 here.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Re: keystroke for survey

Tony
 

Frequently I can page down and then page up and it will show that the box has been checked.

 

Sorry to be so late with this.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 12:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: keystroke for survey

 

Hello Sandra,

You might try pressing X, the quick key to move between check boxes, or alt down arrow, to insure you are actually in the check box.

Cheers Kevin.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: July 19, 2016 10:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: keystroke for survey

 

Hello,

 

Now that my Youtube problem is resolved, on to bigger and better things. I take Shopper’s Voice surveys from time to time; sometimes they work using a keyboard, sometimes not. For the surveys in which using enter or spacebar for check boxes doesn’t work, is there an alternate way to check the box? thanks! I have emailed them several times to try to resolve this, but haven’t gotten a satisfactory response, so am, as a last resort, trying to find out if there’s anything else I can do. Thanks!

 

 

 

Sandra
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
The Little Prince


Re: Speaking Letter / Word / Sentence Keystroke

James Homuth
 

JAWS key plus numbers row 2 should do it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of William L
Houts
Sent: January-05-17 2:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Speaking Letter / Word / Sentence Keystroke




Hi Gang,


Is there a keystroke which toggles the speak function which determines
whether JFW speaks after each letter, word, sentence et cetera?


Thanks,



--Bill








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Speaking Letter / Word / Sentence Keystroke

William L Houts <lukaeon@...>
 

Hi Gang,


Is there a keystroke which toggles the speak function which determines whether JFW speaks after each letter, word, sentence et cetera?


Thanks,



--Bill








--


"It's clever, but does it answer the Sphinx?"


Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

thomas f dinkel
 

Hi,
I'm not in front of my Windows 10 machine at the moment, so I can't test this exactly, but some things I would consider are:
  • In "Advanced power settings" (or something like that) you can set "What to do when I press the power button;" in there, "Shut down" is an option. Then, the physical power button on your computer can be used to shut down.

  • If you press the Control + Alt + Delete keys, the system should bring up a "system security" menu, which allows you to do things like lock, sign out or shut down. The shut down menu option is usually the last item on this screen, so Shift + Tab might get you right to it.

  • I also like the Alt + F4 option... you can press the Windows + D key to show desktop at anytime, then Alt + F4 to shut down.

Take care,

Thomas



On 1/4/17 6:04 PM, Peter Tesar wrote:

Hello,

 

I use my defined hot key combination (ctrl+alt+s) to shutdown Windows.

 

Windows 7 always shutdown, regardless of whether there was any running application.

With Windows 10, I sometimes get a dialogue box to ask if I want to shutdown while there is still an application running.

 

I created a desktop shortcut to point to the shutdown.exe executable. This I named “shortcut”.

 

In the shortcut, the target field has:

    C:\windows\system32\shutdown /s /t 00

 

The defined hot key is: ctrl+alt+s

 

As I said, in Windows 7, the shutdown went ahead even if there was an open application. In Windows 10, I get the warning to save any data before shutting down. This is an extra step.

 

Perhaps there is a Windows 10 command line option to force the shutdown at all times.

Perhaps there is a command line option to do a reboot. If I knew, I would create a reboot shortcut.

 

There was another problem with Windows 10. The directory tree did not list the shutdown.exe file in the windows\system32 folder. If it was, it would be easy to right click it and send it to the desktop.

 

I knew that shutdown.exe was there by using the dir command on the command prompt.

So I copied the shutdown.lnk file from windows 7 and put it into the Windows 10

    users\peter\desktop folder.

 

If anyone knows how to make the shutdown command line force a shutdown of Windows 10, or do a reboot, let me know.

 

Another way to do the shutdown, using Windows 10 was not mentioned.

This is from memory.

 

Highlight the Start Menu

Use the application key to do a right click

Arrow up and select the shutdown menu (or is it power)?

Arrow down and select either shutdown or reboot.

 

Peter T.




On 1/4/2017 11:06 AM, Holly Guinan wrote:

What's the keystroke sequence for shutting down  Win10 properly?

 

Holly Guinan,  TVI
Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired
New Cell:  604-704-5832



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 7:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Scan Disk Results
 

Mike,

         Regardless of the Windows tool in question, if it's related to disk scanning and repair there is virtually always a command line interface for it.  Do a web search using your preferred search engine on the version of windows you're using and the tool you're using with the words command line added in the search criteria and you typically get pages and pages of examples.  You can definitely redirect output to a log file, too.

Brian




Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I am astounded at this plethora of ways to shut down 10,
when all I ever have known and done in any Windows program
is Alt F4 until I was there. I don't know why, but for some
reason I do hit Enter twice.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Peter Tesar
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 7:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

Hello,



I use my defined hot key combination (ctrl+alt+s) to
shutdown Windows.



Windows 7 always shutdown, regardless of whether there was
any running application.

With Windows 10, I sometimes get a dialogue box to ask if I
want to shutdown while there is still an application
running.



I created a desktop shortcut to point to the shutdown.exe
executable. This I named "shortcut".



In the shortcut, the target field has:

C:\windows\system32\shutdown /s /t 00



The defined hot key is: ctrl+alt+s



As I said, in Windows 7, the shutdown went ahead even if
there was an open application. In Windows 10, I get the
warning to save any data before shutting down. This is an
extra step.



Perhaps there is a Windows 10 command line option to force
the shutdown at all times.

Perhaps there is a command line option to do a reboot. If I
knew, I would create a reboot shortcut.



There was another problem with Windows 10. The directory
tree did not list the shutdown.exe file in the
windows\system32 folder. If it was, it would be easy to
right click it and send it to the desktop.



I knew that shutdown.exe was there by using the dir command
on the command prompt.

So I copied the shutdown.lnk file from windows 7 and put it
into the Windows 10

users\peter\desktop folder.



If anyone knows how to make the shutdown command line force
a shutdown of Windows 10, or do a reboot, let me know.



Another way to do the shutdown, using Windows 10 was not
mentioned.

This is from memory.



Highlight the Start Menu

Use the application key to do a right click

Arrow up and select the shutdown menu (or is it power)?

Arrow down and select either shutdown or reboot.



Peter T.




On 1/4/2017 11:06 AM, Holly Guinan wrote:


What's the keystroke sequence for shutting down
Win10 properly?





Holly Guinan, TVI
Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired

New Cell: 604-704-5832



________________________________

From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io> <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf
of Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com>
<mailto:britechguy@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 7:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Scan Disk Results


Mike,

Regardless of the Windows tool in question,
if it's related to disk scanning and repair there is
virtually always a command line interface for it. Do a web
search using your preferred search engine on the version of
windows you're using and the tool you're using with the
words command line added in the search criteria and you
typically get pages and pages of examples. You can
definitely redirect output to a log file, too.

Brian


Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

Peter Tesar
 

Hello,

 

I use my defined hot key combination (ctrl+alt+s) to shutdown Windows.

 

Windows 7 always shutdown, regardless of whether there was any running application.

With Windows 10, I sometimes get a dialogue box to ask if I want to shutdown while there is still an application running.

 

I created a desktop shortcut to point to the shutdown.exe executable. This I named “shortcut”.

 

In the shortcut, the target field has:

    C:\windows\system32\shutdown /s /t 00

 

The defined hot key is: ctrl+alt+s

 

As I said, in Windows 7, the shutdown went ahead even if there was an open application. In Windows 10, I get the warning to save any data before shutting down. This is an extra step.

 

Perhaps there is a Windows 10 command line option to force the shutdown at all times.

Perhaps there is a command line option to do a reboot. If I knew, I would create a reboot shortcut.

 

There was another problem with Windows 10. The directory tree did not list the shutdown.exe file in the windows\system32 folder. If it was, it would be easy to right click it and send it to the desktop.

 

I knew that shutdown.exe was there by using the dir command on the command prompt.

So I copied the shutdown.lnk file from windows 7 and put it into the Windows 10

    users\peter\desktop folder.

 

If anyone knows how to make the shutdown command line force a shutdown of Windows 10, or do a reboot, let me know.

 

Another way to do the shutdown, using Windows 10 was not mentioned.

This is from memory.

 

Highlight the Start Menu

Use the application key to do a right click

Arrow up and select the shutdown menu (or is it power)?

Arrow down and select either shutdown or reboot.

 

Peter T.




On 1/4/2017 11:06 AM, Holly Guinan wrote:

What's the keystroke sequence for shutting down  Win10 properly?

 

Holly Guinan,  TVI
Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired
New Cell:  604-704-5832



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 7:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Scan Disk Results
 

Mike,

         Regardless of the Windows tool in question, if it's related to disk scanning and repair there is virtually always a command line interface for it.  Do a web search using your preferred search engine on the version of windows you're using and the tool you're using with the words command line added in the search criteria and you typically get pages and pages of examples.  You can definitely redirect output to a log file, too.

Brian



Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

HH. Smith Jr.
 

This is the method I use.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Elaine Young
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 4:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

Hi,

I hit the windows key, tab twice to start button, arrow down 4 times to "power" and hit enter, then arrow down twice to "shut down", or three times to "restart".  


Elaine

On 1/4/2017 3:44 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Windows key followed by pressing up arrow twice isn’t reliable because:

  • Customized Start menu layout for different people (you can have a full screen experience, you can rearrange tiles, and you can hide certain parts (the last one is destined for spring 2017)).
  • The overall layout of Start menu is different between Windows 10 releases (the one that is seen in builds 10240 and 10586 is different than that of 14393).

 

You may recall some forums talking about inability for users to find power button in Start menu when build 14393 (Anniversary Update) was first released (August 2016). This is because the overall layout of the Start menu has changed from prior Windows 10 releases (and this is why using the Start menu method is unreliable). I can tell you that certain parts of Start menu (and majority of Windows+X menu shortcuts) has changed in Creators Update (the next major Windows 10 release scheduled to go live in a few months).

I’d say Windows+X method is more reliable and is fast, as this can be invoked from anywhere, with desktop/Alt+F4 method being a good backup procedure.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 12:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

The Windows key followed by up arrow twice does not work for me, I think it depends on how you have customized your start menu screen.

Definitely Alt+F4 from the desktop works, but Windows Key+X followed by U and then by “U” or “R” depending on whether you want to shutdown or restart works consistently for me as well. Not sure, Joseph, why it isn’t reliable for you.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 10:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

From anywhere, just press Windows Key.  I follow with up arrow twice.

That puts you on the Power Button.  Pressing it gives you the choice of restarting, shutting down, or putting the laptop into “sleep” mode.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Holly Guinan
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 10:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

What's the keystroke sequence for shutting down  Win10 properly?

 

Holly Guinan,  TVI
Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired

New Cell:  604-704-5832

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 7:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Scan Disk Results

 

Mike,

         Regardless of the Windows tool in question, if it's related to disk scanning and repair there is virtually always a command line interface for it.  Do a web search using your preferred search engine on the version of windows you're using and the tool you're using with the words command line added in the search criteria and you typically get pages and pages of examples.  You can definitely redirect output to a log file, too.

Brian


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Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

Hi,

This method isn’t working on my computer. However, if I do:

  1. Press Windows key.,
  2. Tab once.
  3. Press down arrow three times.
  4. Press ENTER.

Then I’m presented with options. To me, this proves that other alternatives are more reliable at this time.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Elaine Young
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 12:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

Hi,

I hit the windows key, tab twice to start button, arrow down 4 times to "power" and hit enter, then arrow down twice to "shut down", or three times to "restart".  


Elaine

On 1/4/2017 3:44 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Windows key followed by pressing up arrow twice isn’t reliable because:

  • Customized Start menu layout for different people (you can have a full screen experience, you can rearrange tiles, and you can hide certain parts (the last one is destined for spring 2017)).
  • The overall layout of Start menu is different between Windows 10 releases (the one that is seen in builds 10240 and 10586 is different than that of 14393).

 

You may recall some forums talking about inability for users to find power button in Start menu when build 14393 (Anniversary Update) was first released (August 2016). This is because the overall layout of the Start menu has changed from prior Windows 10 releases (and this is why using the Start menu method is unreliable). I can tell you that certain parts of Start menu (and majority of Windows+X menu shortcuts) has changed in Creators Update (the next major Windows 10 release scheduled to go live in a few months).

I’d say Windows+X method is more reliable and is fast, as this can be invoked from anywhere, with desktop/Alt+F4 method being a good backup procedure.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 12:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

The Windows key followed by up arrow twice does not work for me, I think it depends on how you have customized your start menu screen.

Definitely Alt+F4 from the desktop works, but Windows Key+X followed by U and then by “U” or “R” depending on whether you want to shutdown or restart works consistently for me as well. Not sure, Joseph, why it isn’t reliable for you.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 10:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

From anywhere, just press Windows Key.  I follow with up arrow twice.

That puts you on the Power Button.  Pressing it gives you the choice of restarting, shutting down, or putting the laptop into “sleep” mode.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Holly Guinan
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 10:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

What's the keystroke sequence for shutting down  Win10 properly?

 

Holly Guinan,  TVI
Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired

New Cell:  604-704-5832

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 7:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Scan Disk Results

 

Mike,

         Regardless of the Windows tool in question, if it's related to disk scanning and repair there is virtually always a command line interface for it.  Do a web search using your preferred search engine on the version of windows you're using and the tool you're using with the words command line added in the search criteria and you typically get pages and pages of examples.  You can definitely redirect output to a log file, too.

Brian


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Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

Elaine Young <hidden_spring@...>
 

Hi,

I hit the windows key, tab twice to start button, arrow down 4 times to "power" and hit enter, then arrow down twice to "shut down", or three times to "restart".  


Elaine
On 1/4/2017 3:44 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Windows key followed by pressing up arrow twice isn’t reliable because:

  • Customized Start menu layout for different people (you can have a full screen experience, you can rearrange tiles, and you can hide certain parts (the last one is destined for spring 2017)).
  • The overall layout of Start menu is different between Windows 10 releases (the one that is seen in builds 10240 and 10586 is different than that of 14393).

 

You may recall some forums talking about inability for users to find power button in Start menu when build 14393 (Anniversary Update) was first released (August 2016). This is because the overall layout of the Start menu has changed from prior Windows 10 releases (and this is why using the Start menu method is unreliable). I can tell you that certain parts of Start menu (and majority of Windows+X menu shortcuts) has changed in Creators Update (the next major Windows 10 release scheduled to go live in a few months).

I’d say Windows+X method is more reliable and is fast, as this can be invoked from anywhere, with desktop/Alt+F4 method being a good backup procedure.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 12:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

The Windows key followed by up arrow twice does not work for me, I think it depends on how you have customized your start menu screen.

Definitely Alt+F4 from the desktop works, but Windows Key+X followed by U and then by “U” or “R” depending on whether you want to shutdown or restart works consistently for me as well. Not sure, Joseph, why it isn’t reliable for you.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 10:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

From anywhere, just press Windows Key.  I follow with up arrow twice.

That puts you on the Power Button.  Pressing it gives you the choice of restarting, shutting down, or putting the laptop into “sleep” mode.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Holly Guinan
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 10:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

What's the keystroke sequence for shutting down  Win10 properly?

 

Holly Guinan,  TVI
Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired

New Cell:  604-704-5832

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 7:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Scan Disk Results

 

Mike,

         Regardless of the Windows tool in question, if it's related to disk scanning and repair there is virtually always a command line interface for it.  Do a web search using your preferred search engine on the version of windows you're using and the tool you're using with the words command line added in the search criteria and you typically get pages and pages of examples.  You can definitely redirect output to a log file, too.

Brian


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Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

Hi,

Windows key followed by pressing up arrow twice isn’t reliable because:

  • Customized Start menu layout for different people (you can have a full screen experience, you can rearrange tiles, and you can hide certain parts (the last one is destined for spring 2017)).
  • The overall layout of Start menu is different between Windows 10 releases (the one that is seen in builds 10240 and 10586 is different than that of 14393).

 

You may recall some forums talking about inability for users to find power button in Start menu when build 14393 (Anniversary Update) was first released (August 2016). This is because the overall layout of the Start menu has changed from prior Windows 10 releases (and this is why using the Start menu method is unreliable). I can tell you that certain parts of Start menu (and majority of Windows+X menu shortcuts) has changed in Creators Update (the next major Windows 10 release scheduled to go live in a few months).

I’d say Windows+X method is more reliable and is fast, as this can be invoked from anywhere, with desktop/Alt+F4 method being a good backup procedure.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 12:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

The Windows key followed by up arrow twice does not work for me, I think it depends on how you have customized your start menu screen.

Definitely Alt+F4 from the desktop works, but Windows Key+X followed by U and then by “U” or “R” depending on whether you want to shutdown or restart works consistently for me as well. Not sure, Joseph, why it isn’t reliable for you.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 10:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

From anywhere, just press Windows Key.  I follow with up arrow twice.

That puts you on the Power Button.  Pressing it gives you the choice of restarting, shutting down, or putting the laptop into “sleep” mode.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Holly Guinan
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 10:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

What's the keystroke sequence for shutting down  Win10 properly?

 

Holly Guinan,  TVI
Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired

New Cell:  604-704-5832

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 7:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Scan Disk Results

 

Mike,

         Regardless of the Windows tool in question, if it's related to disk scanning and repair there is virtually always a command line interface for it.  Do a web search using your preferred search engine on the version of windows you're using and the tool you're using with the words command line added in the search criteria and you typically get pages and pages of examples.  You can definitely redirect output to a log file, too.

Brian


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Re: Windows 10 / JFW 18 Query

Marianne Denning
 

I went from Windows 7 to 10 and had to learn to do a few things differently but it really wasn't a big deal.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Amanda Berkley
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 3:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 / JFW 18 Query

I'm running Windows 10 with JFW 18 and have no problems.

It seems very similar to windows 8 for me.

Thanks,
HTH
Amanda


On 1/4/17, William L Houts <lukaeon@gmail.com> wrote:


HI Listers,


I am considering switching out my old Win 7 Dell desktop for a shiny
new Windows 10 machine. Im running JFW 18 and would like to know if
anyone hgere would have suggestions, warnings or dire prophecies
about such a purchase? Thanks for your time and attention, all.



--Bill



--


"It's clever, but does it answer the Sphinx?"





Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

Marianne Denning
 

I think that depends on your computer. The windows key and up arrow twice used to work but my computer updated a few months ago and now I use alt f4.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 3:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

The Windows key followed by up arrow twice does not work for me, I think it depends on how you have customized your start menu screen.

Definitely Alt+F4 from the desktop works, but Windows Key+X followed by U and then by “U” or “R” depending on whether you want to shutdown or restart works consistently for me as well. Not sure, Joseph, why it isn’t reliable for you.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 10:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

From anywhere, just press Windows Key.  I follow with up arrow twice.

That puts you on the Power Button.  Pressing it gives you the choice of restarting, shutting down, or putting the laptop into “sleep” mode.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Holly Guinan
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 10:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

What's the keystroke sequence for shutting down  Win10 properly?

 

Holly Guinan,  TVI
Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired

New Cell:  604-704-5832

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 7:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Scan Disk Results

 

Mike,

         Regardless of the Windows tool in question, if it's related to disk scanning and repair there is virtually always a command line interface for it.  Do a web search using your preferred search engine on the version of windows you're using and the tool you're using with the words command line added in the search criteria and you typically get pages and pages of examples.  You can definitely redirect output to a log file, too.

Brian


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Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

If you want to use Alt+F4 you actually can be on the desktop, the start button, the cortana “Ask me anything” button or the taskbar, it works from any of these areas. I find it easiest to use Windows Key+M or Windows Key+D to first get to the desktop, then Alt+F4.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 10:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

Go to the desktop. Press ALT F4, it will ask you if you want to shut down the computer. Press ENTER. That's it.

Bill White billwhite92701@...

----- Original Message -----

From: Holly Guinan

Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 8:06 AM

Subject: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

What's the keystroke sequence for shutting down  Win10 properly?


 

Holly Guinan,  TVI
Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired

New Cell:  604-704-5832

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 7:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Scan Disk Results

 

Mike,

         Regardless of the Windows tool in question, if it's related to disk scanning and repair there is virtually always a command line interface for it.  Do a web search using your preferred search engine on the version of windows you're using and the tool you're using with the words command line added in the search criteria and you typically get pages and pages of examples.  You can definitely redirect output to a log file, too.

Brian



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Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

The Windows key followed by up arrow twice does not work for me, I think it depends on how you have customized your start menu screen.

Definitely Alt+F4 from the desktop works, but Windows Key+X followed by U and then by “U” or “R” depending on whether you want to shutdown or restart works consistently for me as well. Not sure, Joseph, why it isn’t reliable for you.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 10:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

From anywhere, just press Windows Key.  I follow with up arrow twice.

That puts you on the Power Button.  Pressing it gives you the choice of restarting, shutting down, or putting the laptop into “sleep” mode.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Holly Guinan
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 10:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

What's the keystroke sequence for shutting down  Win10 properly?

 

Holly Guinan,  TVI
Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired

New Cell:  604-704-5832

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 7:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Scan Disk Results

 

Mike,

         Regardless of the Windows tool in question, if it's related to disk scanning and repair there is virtually always a command line interface for it.  Do a web search using your preferred search engine on the version of windows you're using and the tool you're using with the words command line added in the search criteria and you typically get pages and pages of examples.  You can definitely redirect output to a log file, too.

Brian


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Re: Windows 10 / JFW 18 Query

Amanda Berkley
 

I'm running Windows 10 with JFW 18 and have no problems.

It seems very similar to windows 8 for me.

Thanks,
HTH
Amanda

On 1/4/17, William L Houts <lukaeon@gmail.com> wrote:


HI Listers,


I am considering switching out my old Win 7 Dell desktop for a shiny new
Windows 10 machine. Im running JFW 18 and would like to know if anyone
hgere would have suggestions, warnings or dire prophecies about such a
purchase? Thanks for your time and attention, all.



--Bill



--


"It's clever, but does it answer the Sphinx?"





Problem With Stubborn Messages Staying In Drafts Folder Solved

Tom Behler
 

Hello.

 

It looks like I have solved my problem with stubborn messages remaining in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder.

 

I went back onto the g-mail web site, and accessed my account there.

 

The HTML view does work much better than the standard view with Jaws.

 

Anyway, I found the drafts folder again, and accessed the discard drafts option.  With some sighted assistance, I discovered that you have to individually check each drafts message you wish to delete.  I had not done that yesterday, because I didn’t realize it was needed.

 

Once I checked each individual message, I was able to end the operation, and the messages were gone.  They did not re-appear in my Outlook drafts folder.

 

I hope this helps others who experience the same issue.

 

Thanks to the list members who helped me sort this out.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 


Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

Maria Campbell
 

I can shut down my w10 with alt f4.


Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

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Without them, humanity cannot survive.
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On 1/4/2017 1:10 PM, Marquette, Ed wrote:

Works on our 300 Windows 10 laptops.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Poppa Bear
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 12:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

Don’t know if this is still an option in Windows 10

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

From anywhere, just press Windows Key.  I follow with up arrow twice.

That puts you on the Power Button.  Pressing it gives you the choice of restarting, shutting down, or putting the laptop into “sleep” mode.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Holly Guinan
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 10:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

What's the keystroke sequence for shutting down  Win10 properly?

 

Holly Guinan,  TVI
Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired

New Cell:  604-704-5832

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 7:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Scan Disk Results

 

Mike,

         Regardless of the Windows tool in question, if it's related to disk scanning and repair there is virtually always a command line interface for it.  Do a web search using your preferred search engine on the version of windows you're using and the tool you're using with the words command line added in the search criteria and you typically get pages and pages of examples.  You can definitely redirect output to a log file, too.

Brian


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Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@...>
 

Works on our 300 Windows 10 laptops.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Poppa Bear
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 12:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

Don’t know if this is still an option in Windows 10

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

From anywhere, just press Windows Key.  I follow with up arrow twice.

That puts you on the Power Button.  Pressing it gives you the choice of restarting, shutting down, or putting the laptop into “sleep” mode.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Holly Guinan
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 10:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What's the keystroke combo for...

 

What's the keystroke sequence for shutting down  Win10 properly?

 

Holly Guinan,  TVI
Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired

New Cell:  604-704-5832

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 7:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Scan Disk Results

 

Mike,

         Regardless of the Windows tool in question, if it's related to disk scanning and repair there is virtually always a command line interface for it.  Do a web search using your preferred search engine on the version of windows you're using and the tool you're using with the words command line added in the search criteria and you typically get pages and pages of examples.  You can definitely redirect output to a log file, too.

Brian


This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named recipients above and may contain information
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message in error, please notify the sender at 402-346-6000 and delete this E-mail message.
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