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Re: Outlook 2016 Folders

Brian Smith
 

Hello:

Thank you, shift F6 brought the mail folders list up for me.

Brian Smith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2016 Folders

Brian:

Try shift F6, or control Y to get back to your folder list view.

At least, this is now what I have to do in Outlook 2016.

The usual shift-tab no longer works for me, and this has been the case since sometime last Summer.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Smith
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 7:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook 2016 Folders

Hello:

In Outlook 2016, how can you recover the list of mail folders (inbox, sent, junkbox) folders?

Brian Smith


Re: Outlook 2016 Folders

Tom Behler
 

Brian:

Try shift F6, or control Y to get back to your folder list view.

At least, this is now what I have to do in Outlook 2016.

The usual shift-tab no longer works for me, and this has been the case since sometime last Summer.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Smith
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 7:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook 2016 Folders

Hello:

In Outlook 2016, how can you recover the list of mail folders (inbox, sent, junkbox) folders?

Brian Smith


Outlook 2016 Folders

Brian Smith
 

Hello:

In Outlook 2016, how can you recover the list of mail folders (inbox, sent, junkbox) folders?

Brian Smith


Re: windows live mail feedback

Robert Logue
 

I'm just learning Outlook and Windows 10 Mail.
Here are a couple helpful pages:

Keyboard shortcuts for navigating mail in Outlook 2016:
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Keyboard-shortcuts-for-navigating-Mail-in-Outlook-2016-ca79fe45-80e5-47dd-b7a0-841d4711ed53

Compare Mail and Calendar apps for Windows 10 with Outlook 2016 and Outlook 2013
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Compare-Mail-and-Calendar-apps-for-Windows-10-with-Outlook-2016-and-Outlook-2013-16fa7c99-dc32-435b-ba2b-2ac9be56a0da

I'm impressed that Outlook and Mail work fairly well with Windows 10 anniversary Narrator.
The instructions assume the Jaws ribbon feature is turned off.

Bob


Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of marvin hunkin
Sent: January 1, 2017 3:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: windows live mail feedback

hi, my outlook is not working and not worth reinstalling or formatting windows for that, so, mail for windows 10 is not working for me, with jaws, so, pasting a link below to give feedback to microsoft, to see if they will reverse their decision to stop supporting windows live 2012, or to have a new updated app for windows 10. pasting the link below.
marvin.
https://survey2.securestudies.com/wix/p283998968.aspxMarvin


--
Marvin Hunkin
Blind Information Technology Student
http://www.upskilled.edu.au


Re: Mouse Advice

 

Since this question first came up I have been trying to figure out what, precisely, is being asked.

All of the JAWS screen reader mouse controls related to clicking (that is, the ones not for getting the JAWS virtual cursor routed to the PC cursor or vice versa, or the Touch Cursor) do what a given click would do in context:

Left click (Num Pad Slash) - select what's under the mouse pointer

Right click (Num Pad Star) - generally, bring up the context menu like the App/Menu Key or SHIFT+F10 does

The Drag and Drop command (CTRL+INS+NUM PAD SLASH) is like a left click and keeping it held down, allowing you to move the object(s) that were selected elsewhere.  I believe you have to use the Left Click command to actually do the "drop" part of "Drag and Drop" whereas when using an actual mouse releasing the held down left mouse button is what does the drop with what you've been dragging while holding it down.

If we're talking about the mouse routing commands I think those are discussed in the documentation regarding the virtual cursor.

 


Re: Mouse Advice

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

I would go to the freedom scientific site, and in the search field type in
"mouse clicks"

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Hudson
Sent: January 2, 2017 22:34
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Advice

I'm not for sure, but you might want to consider maybe looking in the
keyboard help.
On Dec 30, 2016, at 8:17 AM, Linda Hunt <lshunt@nycap.rr.com> wrote:

Does anyone know if FS has any training modules or Help info with detailed
explanations about what the various mouse clicks do?

Sent from my iPhone



Re: windows 10 mail app deleting or hiding an email account.

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Mario:

Sorry about that.
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Delete-an-email-account-from-Mail-a
nd-Calendar-apps-dba65c49-648d-4d76-9f88-b7bc22a2cc3d

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsansong@icloud.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 6:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows 10 mail app deleting or hiding an email account.

Kimsan, the link you provided to the article does not navigate to the
article, nor can I extract the underlying address. I'd like to make a note
of this article for future reference, but can't. could you post the actual
address? thanks.

------- Original Message --------
From: Kimsan [mailto:kimsansong@icloud.com]
Sent: Tuesday, Jan 3, 2017 2:51 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: windows 10 mail app deleting or hiding an email account.

Hi,

I googled this and followed instructions from this article <this%20article>
but using jaws 17 or NVDA, I can't seem to delete or hide an email account.
Thoughts?

Thanks.

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@icloud.com


Re: windows 10 mail app deleting or hiding an email account.

Mario
 

Kimsan, the link you provided to the article does not navigate to the
article, nor can I extract the underlying address. I'd like to make a
note of this article for future reference, but can't. could you post the
actual address? thanks.

------- Original Message --------
From: Kimsan [mailto:kimsansong@icloud.com]
Sent: Tuesday, Jan 3, 2017 2:51 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: windows 10 mail app deleting or hiding an email account.

Hi,

I googled this and followed instructions from this article
<this%20article> but using jaws 17 or NVDA, I can’t seem to delete or
hide an email account. Thoughts?

Thanks.

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@icloud.com


Re: stop JAWS announcing headers

Douglas C. DeCamp
 

The announcements started after a Microsoft service update to Excel 2016.
There is no way to get rid of them unless I tried backing out the update,
but I'll just live with it until FS fixes the issue. The row number or
column letter is announced before the cell contents. If default cell
verbosity is on then the row & column will then be announced after the cell
contents. I.E. If I move down to cell A5 from A4 and verbosity is set to
both the JAWS announcement will be 5 cell contents A5. With verbosity at
contents only Jaws will say 5 cell contents. Most annoying. But, as I say
FS promised to have it fixed by next V18 update.
announced

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Poppa Bear
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 3:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: stop JAWS announcing headers

What method did you use to set the announcements

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Douglas C.
DeCamp
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 7:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: stop JAWS announcing headers

Mario,
Don't know if this is the same issue for you, but my Excel 2016 (after a
recent update) began speaking row and column numbers while moving around
the spreadsheet even though my verbosity was set to cell contents only. I
called Freedom Scientific who said this was a new known problem and that it
would be corrected in the next Jaws update.
Not sure if this is your exact same problem, but it sounds similar.
I am using Win 10, Jaws 18 latest update, & Excel 2016.
--hth---


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 9:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: stop JAWS announcing headers

I think you're confusing headers with headings? headings are h1, h2, h3,
etc.
and my problem is a JAWS issue where the setting of column and row headers
are spoken when I compose a different spreadsheet even though I haven't
setup JAWS to announce headers as I compose or navigate/read thru.

there must be a keystroke to affectively tell JAWS to unset the announcement
of column and row headers in a spreadsheet.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Poppa Bear [mailto:heavens4real@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, Jan 1, 2017 10:31 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: stop JAWS announcing headers

Are you using the same template? Once you set it in a spreadsheet I have not
found a way to stop it, perhaps try to save as and give it a slightly
different name and see if it still does it. Mayhap let us know what works
for you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: stop JAWS announcing headers

using Excel 2010, I have set JAWS to announce column and row headers as I
navigate a spreadsheet to facilitate in creating a record of an ongoing
issue. the problem I experience now when creating another spreadsheet for
something else, JAWS announces the column and row headers, even though I
haven't set JAWS to do so. quite confusing! how do I get JAWS to stop this.









.


Re: stop JAWS announcing headers

Mario
 

wow! Poppa Bear, do you know if it is possible to reverse cell verbosity
to have JAWS announce the cell coordinates then the contents while
composing/reviewing a spreadsheet? my sister finds it rather confusing
to hear the cell contents and then the coordinates, and frankly, so do
I. I'm using JAWS 16.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Poppa Bear [mailto:heavens4real@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, Jan 2, 2017 8:56 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: stop JAWS announcing headers

Below are the steps to use the Excel keystrokes to set it up. The main
difference with the Excel steps is that the Titles will be announced
everytime the excel file is opened even on a diferent computer, with the
JAWS keystroke it only works within your JAWS user settings, if you emailed
the same spread sheet to me I would have to redue the titles for headings
and rows, unless you attached an extra JAWS file. Also, the steps that I am
sharing are contained in your FS reader application under the JAWS
tutorials.

Excel Column and Row Headers for JAWS and MAGic
Those who use MicrosoftR ExcelR on a regular basis know how quickly one can
get lost in a workbook without the use of row and column headers. Sighted
users often lock the row and column headers into place by using the Freeze
Panes option from the Window menu in earlier versions of Excel, or the View
tab of the ribbon in Excel 2010. When this is done, the headers for the rows
and columns remain on the screen as the user scrolls horizontally or
vertically through the workbook. JAWSR screen reader and MAGicR screen
magnification programs are capable of recognizing column and row headers as
titles under two types of conditions:

Titles created using the Define Name feature of Excel - These titles are
part of the Excel file itself. This is the newest method of creating headers
for column and row titles. They are created by the author or user of the
workbook so that any subsequent use of the workbook does not require that
you or anyone else need to define them. This uses a built-in feature in
Excel and does not even require having JAWS or MAGic on the computer to
create headers that automatically work for JAWS and MAGic users. The name is
stored within the Excel workbook itself and is therefore independent of
different versions of JAWS and MAGic. In addition, the workbook can be
shared easily among different users without having to re-create the headers
or transfer an ancillary JSI (JAWS Script Initialization) file along with
the workbook.
Titles created using JAWS Quick Settings dialog box - These titles are saved
in a workbook-specific JSI file located in your personal settings folder, a
separate file that is created and has to accompany the workbook everywhere
it goes. If that JSI file is not present, for example when a new version of
JAWS or MAGic is installed, then JAWS or MAGic will not automatically
recognize any column and row headers as titles. Also, if you fail to put the
JSI file in the correct folder on the computer hard drive where JAWS or
MAGic can find it, headers will not read automatically.
As you can imagine, the preferred method of creating titles that read
automatically for all JAWS and MAGic users without having to worry about
transferring a JSI file to the proper location on the computer for each
workbook or for each version of JAWS and MAGic, is to use the Define Name
feature of Excel. In this DAISY book we will use this newer method.

Creating Column and Row Titles that Read Automatically Using Excel's
Built-In Naming Function (Document Author or End User)
Microsoft Excel has a built-in function that can be used to give names to a
cell or range of cells. JAWS and MAGic look for certain specific names to
identify which cells contain row and column titles. If the titles are
defined in this fashion, the information is stored right in the workbook
rather than in a JSI file and can be used to speak the title information to
anyone using JAWS 6.1 and later or MAGic 12.0 or later. Furthermore, anyone
can build these row and column names into a workbook without even installing
or using JAWS or MAGic. If you create workbooks, you can make them much more
accessible for JAWS and MAGic users by defining the row and column headers
during the document creation process.

EXERCISE: Open the practice file ExcelPractice.xlsx and follow along with
the instructor as you practice creating column and row headers in an Excel
workbook.

To open the file, choose the following link. If necessary, select and copy
the address below to the clipboard, and then paste it into the address bar
of WindowsR Explorer:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/doccenter/archives/training/ExcelPractice.z
ip
I will select that now, and copy it to the clipboard.
Open Windows Explorer by pressing WINDOWS Key+E.
Press ALT+D to move to the Address Bar in Windows Explorer, and then paste
the address there by pressing CTRL+V.
Press ENTER. A ZIP file opens. Focus is on the Open button. I will press
ENTER.
I will press SPACEBAR to select it.
And I will press ENTER.
I hear the document is in protected view. I will press ALT followed by the
letter F to go to the File tab.
I will press DOWN ARROW.
I will press TAB.
I will TAB again.
There is the Enable Editing button, and I will press SPACEBAR.
I will press INSERT+T to read the title bar. The document is still read-only
at this point, which is not a problem, but at least it is not in protected
view any more.
In the practice document there are two ranges of cells to use for this
exercise. The range for produce department sale items is C3:F8 and the range
for telephone duty for takeout orders is H12:K18.

NOTE: The rest of this lesson contains instructions for Excel 2003 and prior
versions in ordered lists first. Immediately after the first lists for Excel
2003 and earlier are the corresponding lists with instructions for Excel
2007 and 2010, or later.

I have the sample document open. First, press CTRL+G and type C4, and then
press ENTER to move there. This is the intersection for the column and row
headers for the produce department sale items.

Excel 2003 and Prior Versions
Press ALT+I to open the Insert menu, followed by N for the Name submenu. The
Name submenu opens.
Next, press ENTER on Define in the menu.
Excel 2007, 2010, and later
Press ALT+M to move to the Formulas tab of the ribbon, followed by M for
Define Name.
Then, press ENTER on Define Name. If you are using the JAWS Virtual Ribbon
menus, the Define Name split button is on the lower ribbon in the Defined
Names group of the Formulas tab.
In Excel 2003 and earlier, the Define Name dialog box opens. The cursor is
in the Names in Workbook edit box. In Excel 2007, 2010, and later, the New
Name dialog box opens. The cursor is in the Name edit box. The dialog boxes
in these versions of Excel are the same, except they have different titles
and the field label prompts are slightly different.

Focus is in the Name edit box. Excel has filled in a name for me from the
region. It is the text that reads "produce department sale items," except
there is one difference. There are underscores between the names instead of
spaces. THIS IS IMPORTANT! You cannot use spaces in the Excel Name feature.
Instead, use mixed case with no spaces, underscores, or dashes to separate
the words.

The text that is there is highlighted, so you can type right over it. Type
in the following exactly as I do:
TitleRegion1..F8. I will explain this in just a minute.
Press ENTER to close the dialog box.
Test to see if the column and row headers are reading properly. I will press
DOWN ARROW to move to week 2, and then RIGHT ARROW to move across week 2
produce on sale. I hear the column headers, which are at the top of each
column going across row 4 spoken just prior to hearing the contents of the
cell focus is in, several rows farther down in the workbook.
Now I will press UP ARROW to move up to week 1. The row headers out to the
left in column C are spoken even though focus is moving up and down several
columns out to the right of them.
Rules for Naming Ranges with Column and Row Titles
Let me explain what we just did and how the name feature works now. I will
break it down for you. The names that JAWS and MAGic look for to identify
rows and columns have the following format:

For column and row headers to be recognized, the name must be in the form -
Title period TopLeftCellCoordinates period BottomRightCellCoordinates. Cell
coordinates represent the top left cell of the range and the bottom right
cell of the range of cells. For example: TitleRegion1.C4.F8
For column headers only to be recognized, the name must be in the form -
ColumnTitle period TopLeftCellCoordinates period BottomRightCellCoordinates.

For row headers only to be recognized, the name must be in the form -
RowTitle period TopLeftCellCoordinates period BottomRightCellCoordinates.
If the cursor is in the top left cell when creating the name you may leave
out the top left cell coordinates, and leave two periods with nothing in
between them. For example: TitleRegion1..F8
Names can be further defined as long as they begin with the string Title,
ColumnTitle, or RowTitle. Some examples include:

Title_FirstQuarter..H25 would be a range with both row and column titles
with the bottom right cell of the range in cell H25.
TitleRegion2..H25 would also be a name for a range with both row and column
titles with the bottom right cell of the range in cell H25.
ColumnTitle_MonthlyCashFlow..M53 would be a range with column titles only
with the bottom right cell of the range in cell M53.
RowTitle-AssociatesOnStaff..K34 would be a range with row titles only with
the bottom right cell of the range in cell K34.
Remember that row and column titles are now saved within the workbook, not
in a JSI file. Be sure to save the workbook after defining names, or they
will be gone the next time you use the workbook. To keep the original file
intact, choose Save As and give it a new name. That way you will be able to
repeat these lessons and have the original file for future practice. In
Excel, and most other programs, just press ALT+F followed by A to get to the
Save As dialog box. Give the file a new name, and pay attention to where it
is saved on your computer hard drive in case you want to find it again
later.

Let us practice this again on the second range in this worksheet.

Press CTRL+G and type H13, and then press ENTER to move there. This is the
intersection for the column and row headers for the telephone duty roster
for takeout orders.

Excel 2003 and prior versions
Press ALT+I to open the Insert menu, followed by N for the Name submenu. The
Name submenu opens.
Next, press ENTER on Define in the menu.
Excel 2007, 2010, and later
Press ALT+M to move to the Formulas tab of the ribbon, followed by M for
Define Name.
Then, press ENTER on Define Name. If you are using the JAWS Virtual Ribbon
menus, the Define Name split button is on the lower ribbon in the Defined
Names group of the Formulas tab.
Excel has filled in a name for me from the region. It is the text that reads
telephone duty for takeout orders. Again notice that there are underscores
between the names instead of spaces. You cannot use spaces in the Excel Name
feature. Instead, use mixed case with no spaces, underscores, or dashes to
separate the words.

The text there is highlighted, so you can type right over it. Type in the
following, again, exactly as I do:
TitleRegion2..K18. I will explain this again in just a minute.
Press ENTER to close the dialog box.
Test to see if the column and row headers are reading properly. I will press
DOWN ARROW to move to Monday, and then RIGHT ARROW to move across this row
to hear who has been assigned to telephone duty for breakfast, lunch, and
dinner. I hear the column header first, followed by the name of the person
scheduled.
Now I will press DOWN ARROW to move down to Friday and see who is on
telephone duty for dinner each evening. The row headers for the day of the
week read first, and then the person's name reads second.
Let me explain the naming process again for this region.

The first part, up to the first period, was TitleRegion2. This tells JAWS or
MAGic that this is the second region on the worksheet. The next one we
create will be TitleRegion3, and so on.

The second part, up to the next period, would be the top left corner of the
range of cells, H13. Note that when you create the name, if the focus is in
the top left corner of the range you can omit this part, leaving two periods
between the title name and coordinates of the bottom right cell in the name
definition.

The third part is the bottom right corner of the range of cells, K18.

NOTE: In the past you had to use the worksheet number at the end of defined
names. That is no longer necessary, but you must have completely unique
names for any range no matter where they are located in the workbook. For
example, you cannot have a range named Title1 on one worksheet and the same
name, Title1, on the same or other worksheets. You might use something such
as Title2 or TitleSalesFigures for the second name.

Changing Title Name Definitions
If you change a worksheet so that the row or column titles are in different
locations, you can edit or delete the existing names.

In Excel 2003 and prior versions
Press ALT+I to open the Insert menu, followed by N for the Name submenu, and
then press ENTER on Define.
Press TAB to move to the list of names.
In Excel 2007, 2010, and later
Press ALT+M to move to the Formulas tab of the ribbon, followed by N for
Name Manager.
To edit a listing, select it in the list, and then press ALT+E to activate
the Edit button. The Edit Name dialog box opens. Focus is in the Name field
where you can edit the region name. When you are finished, press TAB to move
to the OK button or the Cancel button, depending on whether you wish to save
the changes or not.

If you were actually deleting a name here, you would choose it from the list
and then press ALT+D to activate the Delete button. I will just press DOWN
ARROW to check the items in the list. OK, there is TitleRegion2. I will
press UP ARROW to move back up to the first item. Good, there is
TitleRegion1.

For now, I am going to just press ESC to close the Name Manager dialog box.

NOTE: Some workbooks may also have other cells or ranges of cells that are
named that do not pertain to title locations. An example of this might be a
range of cells that has been given a name, such as "FirstQuarterSales" or
"Information." When names are given to cells the names can be used to
navigate to that location in the worksheet by using the GoTo command in
Excel, CTRL+G, or function key F5. So be aware that there will often be
other names used within workbooks besides those that JAWS and MAGic monitor
for reading.

Now when you move through any cell in either region JAWS and MAGic will use
the column and row titles associated with that particular region. You can
have as many regions as you want and JAWS and MAGic will always know which
titles to use, as long as you define your title names properly.

Advantages of Using the Name Feature
There are a couple of really nice advantages to using the Name feature in
Excel to create column and row headers. They include:

Remember, the region names are saved within the workbook itself and are
automatically available to any JAWS or MAGic user.
You do not have to first find, and then send a separate JSI file, along with
instructions on where to put it to make it work properly.
Any Excel workbook author can use this technique to create column and row
headers for JAWS or MAGic users that read automatically, even if the author
does not have a copy of JAWS or MAGic.
Finally, if you are moving around in an area outside of one of the named
regions you will NOT hear column or row information that is not relevant to
where you are.
Workbooks with Multiple Worksheets
As previously mentioned, all default Excel workbooks open with three
worksheets. A user is free to add as many additional worksheets as required.
Each worksheet must have its row and column titles defined separately before
JAWS or MAGic automatically reads them, even if the format of each worksheet
is identical to Sheet1. However, remember that all names in the worksheet
must be unique.

For example:

TitleRegion3..C2 represents a region on a worksheet spanning the range from
wherever the cursor is located in the top left cell to the bottom right
cell, C2.

TitleRegion4..T15 represents a region on a worksheet spanning the range from
wherever the cursor is located in the top left cell to the bottom right
cell, T15.

This format remains the same, even if the author decides to change the
default names of the worksheets from Sheet1, Sheet2, Sheet3, and so on, to
more meaningful names. Worksheets can be rearranged if needed. This makes no
difference for JAWS or MAGic as long as the range names are unique and as
long as the range itself does not change. If the range itself changes,
either edit the name or delete it and create a new one.

Create Only Row or Column Titles for Multiple Regions
If you are interested in naming only row titles or only column titles for
regions, the naming convention follows the structure defined above with the
following names:

RowTitleRegion1 , RowTitleRegion2, RowTitleFirstQuarterSales, and so on for
a region that only has row headers.
ColumnTitleRegion1 , ColumnTitleRegion2, ColumnTitleFirstQuarterSales, and
so on for a region that only has column headers.
Conclusion
Using the Excel Name technique described here is the preferred method for
defining column and row headers for Excel workbooks. This is superior to the
old method since:

It is computer independent.
The name definitions used by JAWS and MAGic to speak the titles are saved
within the workbook and it does not require the creation or transfer of a
JSI file.
It allows workbook authors who are not actually using JAWS or MAGic to build
name definitions into their workbooks, thus making these documents more
accessible to JAWS and MAGic users.
Do not forget to close any practice files you have open, and if you wish to
save them consider saving them with a different name so the original file
will be available for future practice. Thank you for joining me in this
DAISY training!

Last revised 2012/11/15

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 3:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: stop JAWS announcing headers

I don't understand. I thought this announcement only pertains to JAWS since
it's JAWS that speaks. Excel has keystrokes to do the same thing?
what are they? please explain so I may understand.

------- Original Message --------
From: Poppa Bear [mailto:heavens4real@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, Jan 2, 2017 6:10 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: stop JAWS announcing headers

Ok, that is the JAWS keystroke, I am trying to get into using the Excel
native keystroke to do the same thing.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 1:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: stop JAWS announcing headers

selected the cells in a row that comprise the column headers and press
control+alt+insert+c to set row headers to be spoken, and select the
cells in a column that comprise the row headers to be spoken and press
control+alt+insert+r to set the row headers to be spoken.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Poppa Bear [mailto:heavens4real@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, Jan 2, 2017 4:03 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: stop JAWS announcing headers

What method did you use to set the announcements

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Douglas C.
DeCamp
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 7:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: stop JAWS announcing headers

Mario,
Don't know if this is the same issue for you, but my Excel 2016 (after a
recent update) began speaking row and column numbers while moving around
the spreadsheet even though my verbosity was set to cell contents only. I
called Freedom Scientific who said this was a new known problem and that it
would be corrected in the next Jaws update.
Not sure if this is your exact same problem, but it sounds similar.
I am using Win 10, Jaws 18 latest update, & Excel 2016.
--hth---


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 9:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: stop JAWS announcing headers

I think you're confusing headers with headings? headings are h1, h2, h3,
etc.
and my problem is a JAWS issue where the setting of column and row headers
are spoken when I compose a different spreadsheet even though I haven't
setup JAWS to announce headers as I compose or navigate/read thru.

there must be a keystroke to affectively tell JAWS to unset the announcement
of column and row headers in a spreadsheet.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Poppa Bear [mailto:heavens4real@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, Jan 1, 2017 10:31 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: stop JAWS announcing headers

Are you using the same template? Once you set it in a spreadsheet I have not
found a way to stop it, perhaps try to save as and give it a slightly
different name and see if it still does it. Mayhap let us know what works
for you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: stop JAWS announcing headers

using Excel 2010, I have set JAWS to announce column and row headers as I
navigate a spreadsheet to facilitate in creating a record of an ongoing
issue. the problem I experience now when creating another spreadsheet for
something else, JAWS announces the column and row headers, even though I
haven't set JAWS to do so. quite confusing! how do I get JAWS to stop this.









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Re: beware of malware bytes

Lynne Moore
 

Hi,
Sorry for the delay in responding.  Do you know if Malware Bytes works with JAWS 16 as well?  Thanks.
Lynne Moore
 

Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: beware of malware bytes
 
I have been using the latest paid version of Malware bytes with JAWS 17 with no difficulties. There were problems with JAWS and an older version but for the most part those were corrected with a newer version. Using it with JAWS does take getting used to as it involves using the JAWS cursor at times and Malware Bytes could be a bit more detailed with their explanations.
Chuck
 
From: Lynne Moore
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: beware of malware bytes
 
Hi Group,
Marvin was just talking about Malware Bytes.  About a month ago, my Windows 7 PC got some Malware on it.  I have a virus checker and I thought that was all I needed.  Anyway, I lost a lot of files and had to reinstall windows.  I had someone run Malware Bytes for me because they said it was the best program to run, but it didn’t seem to work well with JAWS.  What do you recommend I would use that would work well with JAWS and that would also be effective?
Lynne Moore
 
From: marvin hunkin
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: beware of malware bytes
 

Hi. if you use malware bytes, be aware, some versions, can mess up your system. This is what happened to my mum, she has a old Toshiba satellite running windows vista home, and she installed malware bytes, from my 8 gb usb stick, and then she did a quick scan, removed some items, then shut down, when she booted up her machine, later on that day, she plugged in the mouse, after to trying to do any thing, the arrow disappears, machine locks up, like windows explorer, lock up not responding,a white screen, all icons go, not connected to the internet. So the only way, was when she got the message, windows could not shut down properly, she went into safe mode, went to control panel, programs and feature, uinstalled malware bytes 2.2 , and then shutdown and restarted, had normal use of her machine, so I have removed it on my machine, only have super anti spyware free, avg free, and doing a windows defender scan at the moment,  for windows 10. So, try Spybot and destroy, capersky, but does need sighted help as the 2017 installer, asks you for a capture. Read this blog on david goldfield’s site, and he uses nvda, as his main screen reader. Never used that.

Sogiving a warning, malware bytes, maybe give you malware, and lock up and emss your machine, for us screen reader users, safe mode, no audio drivers, no speech.

Marvin. periodically

 


Re: Please disregard my question. I figured it out. windows 10 mail app deleting or hiding an email account.

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

 

 

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 11:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: windows 10 mail app deleting or hiding an email account.

 

Hi,

I googled this and followed instructions from this article but using jaws 17 or NVDA, I can’t seem to delete or hide an email account. Thoughts?

Thanks.

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 


windows 10 mail app deleting or hiding an email account.

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Hi,

I googled this and followed instructions from this article but using jaws 17 or NVDA, I can’t seem to delete or hide an email account. Thoughts?

Thanks.

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 


Re: Mouse Advice

Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

I'm not for sure, but you might want to consider maybe looking in the keyboard help.

On Dec 30, 2016, at 8:17 AM, Linda Hunt <lshunt@nycap.rr.com> wrote:

Does anyone know if FS has any training modules or Help info with detailed explanations about what the various mouse clicks do?

Sent from my iPhone



Re: windows live mail feedback

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

David:

How do you put it in conversation view.

 

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsansong@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 3:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows live mail feedback

 

Hi,

I am happy for you. Let me know if you have any questions about spell checking with the mail app or anything like that.

Have a great day.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Melissa Stott
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 6:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows live mail feedback

 

Well, I have upgraded to windows 10, and I am now using the Mail app. It took me some getting used to, but I am getting used to it. I am so used to Windows live mail. I think I'll stick with the Mail app for a while, to see how things go before installing windows live mail.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 2, 2017, at 6:28 PM, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I am using the win10 mail app right now, and it works great for me. I have my messages come into the mail app in conversation view, so all threads are groupped together. The mail app works great with JAWS 18, and NVDA. When you import your eamil account into the mail app, select other account pop or IMAP no matter what kind of account it is and it will import into the mail app. If you type the first few letters of a email address into the to: edit, tab, then shift tab back, and JAWS will say the entire address that is there. I have a great written tutorial that I did for using the mail, calendar and people apps, please let me know if you want the tutorial, and I will send you a dropbox link to download it to your computer. I go through everything from setting up the mail app for the first time, to using it to its full potential. I have used it as my only email client for 2 months, and I can do everything you can do with an email client except for making message rules. You cannot make message rules, but I have 20 lists coming into my in box in conversation view, and I can go through 500 messages in 30 minutes. I have never needed message rules. Knowing that you cannot have message rules, please let me know if you still want my written text tutorial for the mail app.

Take care, guys,

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 4:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows live mail feedback

 

I use Outlook, but I was under the impression the Windows 10 native mail app was working quite well as of the anniversary update. I believe there was even something about that in one of Jonathan's FS casts. What issues to you have with the mail app? Have you updated to the anniversary update yet?

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of marvin hunkin

Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 2:10 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: windows live mail feedback

 

hi, my outlook is not working and not worth reinstalling or formatting windows for that, so, mail for windows 10 is not working for me, with jaws, so, pasting a link below to give feedback to microsoft, to see if they will reverse their decision to stop supporting windows live 2012, or to have a new updated app for windows 10. pasting the link below.

marvin.

https://survey2.securestudies.com/wix/p283998968.aspxMarvin

 

 

--

Marvin Hunkin

Blind Information Technology Student

http://www.upskilled.edu.au

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: windows live mail feedback

Joe Thibault <thibault.joe@...>
 

Hi David,

I also would like your tutorial.

Thibault.joe@...            

Thanks,

Joe

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 5:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows live mail feedback

 

Hi all,

I am using the win10 mail app right now, and it works great for me. I have my messages come into the mail app in conversation view, so all threads are groupped together. The mail app works great with JAWS 18, and NVDA. When you import your eamil account into the mail app, select other account pop or IMAP no matter what kind of account it is and it will import into the mail app. If you type the first few letters of a email address into the to: edit, tab, then shift tab back, and JAWS will say the entire address that is there. I have a great written tutorial that I did for using the mail, calendar and people apps, please let me know if you want the tutorial, and I will send you a dropbox link to download it to your computer. I go through everything from setting up the mail app for the first time, to using it to its full potential. I have used it as my only email client for 2 months, and I can do everything you can do with an email client except for making message rules. You cannot make message rules, but I have 20 lists coming into my in box in conversation view, and I can go through 500 messages in 30 minutes. I have never needed message rules. Knowing that you cannot have message rules, please let me know if you still want my written text tutorial for the mail app.

Take care, guys,

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 4:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows live mail feedback

 

I use Outlook, but I was under the impression the Windows 10 native mail app was working quite well as of the anniversary update. I believe there was even something about that in one of Jonathan's FS casts. What issues to you have with the mail app? Have you updated to the anniversary update yet?

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of marvin hunkin

Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 2:10 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: windows live mail feedback

 

hi, my outlook is not working and not worth reinstalling or formatting windows for that, so, mail for windows 10 is not working for me, with jaws, so, pasting a link below to give feedback to microsoft, to see if they will reverse their decision to stop supporting windows live 2012, or to have a new updated app for windows 10. pasting the link below.

marvin.

https://survey2.securestudies.com/wix/p283998968.aspxMarvin

 

 

--

Marvin Hunkin

Blind Information Technology Student

http://www.upskilled.edu.au

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: stop JAWS announcing headers

Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...>
 

Below are the steps to use the Excel keystrokes to set it up. The main
difference with the Excel steps is that the Titles will be announced
everytime the excel file is opened even on a diferent computer, with the
JAWS keystroke it only works within your JAWS user settings, if you emailed
the same spread sheet to me I would have to redue the titles for headings
and rows, unless you attached an extra JAWS file. Also, the steps that I am
sharing are contained in your FS reader application under the JAWS
tutorials.

Excel Column and Row Headers for JAWS and MAGic
Those who use MicrosoftR ExcelR on a regular basis know how quickly one can
get lost in a workbook without the use of row and column headers. Sighted
users often lock the row and column headers into place by using the Freeze
Panes option from the Window menu in earlier versions of Excel, or the View
tab of the ribbon in Excel 2010. When this is done, the headers for the rows
and columns remain on the screen as the user scrolls horizontally or
vertically through the workbook. JAWSR screen reader and MAGicR screen
magnification programs are capable of recognizing column and row headers as
titles under two types of conditions:

Titles created using the Define Name feature of Excel - These titles are
part of the Excel file itself. This is the newest method of creating headers
for column and row titles. They are created by the author or user of the
workbook so that any subsequent use of the workbook does not require that
you or anyone else need to define them. This uses a built-in feature in
Excel and does not even require having JAWS or MAGic on the computer to
create headers that automatically work for JAWS and MAGic users. The name is
stored within the Excel workbook itself and is therefore independent of
different versions of JAWS and MAGic. In addition, the workbook can be
shared easily among different users without having to re-create the headers
or transfer an ancillary JSI (JAWS Script Initialization) file along with
the workbook.
Titles created using JAWS Quick Settings dialog box - These titles are saved
in a workbook-specific JSI file located in your personal settings folder, a
separate file that is created and has to accompany the workbook everywhere
it goes. If that JSI file is not present, for example when a new version of
JAWS or MAGic is installed, then JAWS or MAGic will not automatically
recognize any column and row headers as titles. Also, if you fail to put the
JSI file in the correct folder on the computer hard drive where JAWS or
MAGic can find it, headers will not read automatically.
As you can imagine, the preferred method of creating titles that read
automatically for all JAWS and MAGic users without having to worry about
transferring a JSI file to the proper location on the computer for each
workbook or for each version of JAWS and MAGic, is to use the Define Name
feature of Excel. In this DAISY book we will use this newer method.

Creating Column and Row Titles that Read Automatically Using Excel's
Built-In Naming Function (Document Author or End User)
Microsoft Excel has a built-in function that can be used to give names to a
cell or range of cells. JAWS and MAGic look for certain specific names to
identify which cells contain row and column titles. If the titles are
defined in this fashion, the information is stored right in the workbook
rather than in a JSI file and can be used to speak the title information to
anyone using JAWS 6.1 and later or MAGic 12.0 or later. Furthermore, anyone
can build these row and column names into a workbook without even installing
or using JAWS or MAGic. If you create workbooks, you can make them much more
accessible for JAWS and MAGic users by defining the row and column headers
during the document creation process.

EXERCISE: Open the practice file ExcelPractice.xlsx and follow along with
the instructor as you practice creating column and row headers in an Excel
workbook.

To open the file, choose the following link. If necessary, select and copy
the address below to the clipboard, and then paste it into the address bar
of WindowsR Explorer:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/doccenter/archives/training/ExcelPractice.z
ip
I will select that now, and copy it to the clipboard.
Open Windows Explorer by pressing WINDOWS Key+E.
Press ALT+D to move to the Address Bar in Windows Explorer, and then paste
the address there by pressing CTRL+V.
Press ENTER. A ZIP file opens. Focus is on the Open button. I will press
ENTER.
I will press SPACEBAR to select it.
And I will press ENTER.
I hear the document is in protected view. I will press ALT followed by the
letter F to go to the File tab.
I will press DOWN ARROW.
I will press TAB.
I will TAB again.
There is the Enable Editing button, and I will press SPACEBAR.
I will press INSERT+T to read the title bar. The document is still read-only
at this point, which is not a problem, but at least it is not in protected
view any more.
In the practice document there are two ranges of cells to use for this
exercise. The range for produce department sale items is C3:F8 and the range
for telephone duty for takeout orders is H12:K18.

NOTE: The rest of this lesson contains instructions for Excel 2003 and prior
versions in ordered lists first. Immediately after the first lists for Excel
2003 and earlier are the corresponding lists with instructions for Excel
2007 and 2010, or later.

I have the sample document open. First, press CTRL+G and type C4, and then
press ENTER to move there. This is the intersection for the column and row
headers for the produce department sale items.

Excel 2003 and Prior Versions
Press ALT+I to open the Insert menu, followed by N for the Name submenu. The
Name submenu opens.
Next, press ENTER on Define in the menu.
Excel 2007, 2010, and later
Press ALT+M to move to the Formulas tab of the ribbon, followed by M for
Define Name.
Then, press ENTER on Define Name. If you are using the JAWS Virtual Ribbon
menus, the Define Name split button is on the lower ribbon in the Defined
Names group of the Formulas tab.
In Excel 2003 and earlier, the Define Name dialog box opens. The cursor is
in the Names in Workbook edit box. In Excel 2007, 2010, and later, the New
Name dialog box opens. The cursor is in the Name edit box. The dialog boxes
in these versions of Excel are the same, except they have different titles
and the field label prompts are slightly different.

Focus is in the Name edit box. Excel has filled in a name for me from the
region. It is the text that reads "produce department sale items," except
there is one difference. There are underscores between the names instead of
spaces. THIS IS IMPORTANT! You cannot use spaces in the Excel Name feature.
Instead, use mixed case with no spaces, underscores, or dashes to separate
the words.

The text that is there is highlighted, so you can type right over it. Type
in the following exactly as I do:
TitleRegion1..F8. I will explain this in just a minute.
Press ENTER to close the dialog box.
Test to see if the column and row headers are reading properly. I will press
DOWN ARROW to move to week 2, and then RIGHT ARROW to move across week 2
produce on sale. I hear the column headers, which are at the top of each
column going across row 4 spoken just prior to hearing the contents of the
cell focus is in, several rows farther down in the workbook.
Now I will press UP ARROW to move up to week 1. The row headers out to the
left in column C are spoken even though focus is moving up and down several
columns out to the right of them.
Rules for Naming Ranges with Column and Row Titles
Let me explain what we just did and how the name feature works now. I will
break it down for you. The names that JAWS and MAGic look for to identify
rows and columns have the following format:

For column and row headers to be recognized, the name must be in the form -
Title period TopLeftCellCoordinates period BottomRightCellCoordinates. Cell
coordinates represent the top left cell of the range and the bottom right
cell of the range of cells. For example: TitleRegion1.C4.F8
For column headers only to be recognized, the name must be in the form -
ColumnTitle period TopLeftCellCoordinates period BottomRightCellCoordinates.

For row headers only to be recognized, the name must be in the form -
RowTitle period TopLeftCellCoordinates period BottomRightCellCoordinates.
If the cursor is in the top left cell when creating the name you may leave
out the top left cell coordinates, and leave two periods with nothing in
between them. For example: TitleRegion1..F8
Names can be further defined as long as they begin with the string Title,
ColumnTitle, or RowTitle. Some examples include:

Title_FirstQuarter..H25 would be a range with both row and column titles
with the bottom right cell of the range in cell H25.
TitleRegion2..H25 would also be a name for a range with both row and column
titles with the bottom right cell of the range in cell H25.
ColumnTitle_MonthlyCashFlow..M53 would be a range with column titles only
with the bottom right cell of the range in cell M53.
RowTitle-AssociatesOnStaff..K34 would be a range with row titles only with
the bottom right cell of the range in cell K34.
Remember that row and column titles are now saved within the workbook, not
in a JSI file. Be sure to save the workbook after defining names, or they
will be gone the next time you use the workbook. To keep the original file
intact, choose Save As and give it a new name. That way you will be able to
repeat these lessons and have the original file for future practice. In
Excel, and most other programs, just press ALT+F followed by A to get to the
Save As dialog box. Give the file a new name, and pay attention to where it
is saved on your computer hard drive in case you want to find it again
later.

Let us practice this again on the second range in this worksheet.

Press CTRL+G and type H13, and then press ENTER to move there. This is the
intersection for the column and row headers for the telephone duty roster
for takeout orders.

Excel 2003 and prior versions
Press ALT+I to open the Insert menu, followed by N for the Name submenu. The
Name submenu opens.
Next, press ENTER on Define in the menu.
Excel 2007, 2010, and later
Press ALT+M to move to the Formulas tab of the ribbon, followed by M for
Define Name.
Then, press ENTER on Define Name. If you are using the JAWS Virtual Ribbon
menus, the Define Name split button is on the lower ribbon in the Defined
Names group of the Formulas tab.
Excel has filled in a name for me from the region. It is the text that reads
telephone duty for takeout orders. Again notice that there are underscores
between the names instead of spaces. You cannot use spaces in the Excel Name
feature. Instead, use mixed case with no spaces, underscores, or dashes to
separate the words.

The text there is highlighted, so you can type right over it. Type in the
following, again, exactly as I do:
TitleRegion2..K18. I will explain this again in just a minute.
Press ENTER to close the dialog box.
Test to see if the column and row headers are reading properly. I will press
DOWN ARROW to move to Monday, and then RIGHT ARROW to move across this row
to hear who has been assigned to telephone duty for breakfast, lunch, and
dinner. I hear the column header first, followed by the name of the person
scheduled.
Now I will press DOWN ARROW to move down to Friday and see who is on
telephone duty for dinner each evening. The row headers for the day of the
week read first, and then the person's name reads second.
Let me explain the naming process again for this region.

The first part, up to the first period, was TitleRegion2. This tells JAWS or
MAGic that this is the second region on the worksheet. The next one we
create will be TitleRegion3, and so on.

The second part, up to the next period, would be the top left corner of the
range of cells, H13. Note that when you create the name, if the focus is in
the top left corner of the range you can omit this part, leaving two periods
between the title name and coordinates of the bottom right cell in the name
definition.

The third part is the bottom right corner of the range of cells, K18.

NOTE: In the past you had to use the worksheet number at the end of defined
names. That is no longer necessary, but you must have completely unique
names for any range no matter where they are located in the workbook. For
example, you cannot have a range named Title1 on one worksheet and the same
name, Title1, on the same or other worksheets. You might use something such
as Title2 or TitleSalesFigures for the second name.

Changing Title Name Definitions
If you change a worksheet so that the row or column titles are in different
locations, you can edit or delete the existing names.

In Excel 2003 and prior versions
Press ALT+I to open the Insert menu, followed by N for the Name submenu, and
then press ENTER on Define.
Press TAB to move to the list of names.
In Excel 2007, 2010, and later
Press ALT+M to move to the Formulas tab of the ribbon, followed by N for
Name Manager.
To edit a listing, select it in the list, and then press ALT+E to activate
the Edit button. The Edit Name dialog box opens. Focus is in the Name field
where you can edit the region name. When you are finished, press TAB to move
to the OK button or the Cancel button, depending on whether you wish to save
the changes or not.

If you were actually deleting a name here, you would choose it from the list
and then press ALT+D to activate the Delete button. I will just press DOWN
ARROW to check the items in the list. OK, there is TitleRegion2. I will
press UP ARROW to move back up to the first item. Good, there is
TitleRegion1.

For now, I am going to just press ESC to close the Name Manager dialog box.

NOTE: Some workbooks may also have other cells or ranges of cells that are
named that do not pertain to title locations. An example of this might be a
range of cells that has been given a name, such as "FirstQuarterSales" or
"Information." When names are given to cells the names can be used to
navigate to that location in the worksheet by using the GoTo command in
Excel, CTRL+G, or function key F5. So be aware that there will often be
other names used within workbooks besides those that JAWS and MAGic monitor
for reading.

Now when you move through any cell in either region JAWS and MAGic will use
the column and row titles associated with that particular region. You can
have as many regions as you want and JAWS and MAGic will always know which
titles to use, as long as you define your title names properly.

Advantages of Using the Name Feature
There are a couple of really nice advantages to using the Name feature in
Excel to create column and row headers. They include:

Remember, the region names are saved within the workbook itself and are
automatically available to any JAWS or MAGic user.
You do not have to first find, and then send a separate JSI file, along with
instructions on where to put it to make it work properly.
Any Excel workbook author can use this technique to create column and row
headers for JAWS or MAGic users that read automatically, even if the author
does not have a copy of JAWS or MAGic.
Finally, if you are moving around in an area outside of one of the named
regions you will NOT hear column or row information that is not relevant to
where you are.
Workbooks with Multiple Worksheets
As previously mentioned, all default Excel workbooks open with three
worksheets. A user is free to add as many additional worksheets as required.
Each worksheet must have its row and column titles defined separately before
JAWS or MAGic automatically reads them, even if the format of each worksheet
is identical to Sheet1. However, remember that all names in the worksheet
must be unique.

For example:

TitleRegion3..C2 represents a region on a worksheet spanning the range from
wherever the cursor is located in the top left cell to the bottom right
cell, C2.

TitleRegion4..T15 represents a region on a worksheet spanning the range from
wherever the cursor is located in the top left cell to the bottom right
cell, T15.

This format remains the same, even if the author decides to change the
default names of the worksheets from Sheet1, Sheet2, Sheet3, and so on, to
more meaningful names. Worksheets can be rearranged if needed. This makes no
difference for JAWS or MAGic as long as the range names are unique and as
long as the range itself does not change. If the range itself changes,
either edit the name or delete it and create a new one.

Create Only Row or Column Titles for Multiple Regions
If you are interested in naming only row titles or only column titles for
regions, the naming convention follows the structure defined above with the
following names:

RowTitleRegion1 , RowTitleRegion2, RowTitleFirstQuarterSales, and so on for
a region that only has row headers.
ColumnTitleRegion1 , ColumnTitleRegion2, ColumnTitleFirstQuarterSales, and
so on for a region that only has column headers.
Conclusion
Using the Excel Name technique described here is the preferred method for
defining column and row headers for Excel workbooks. This is superior to the
old method since:

It is computer independent.
The name definitions used by JAWS and MAGic to speak the titles are saved
within the workbook and it does not require the creation or transfer of a
JSI file.
It allows workbook authors who are not actually using JAWS or MAGic to build
name definitions into their workbooks, thus making these documents more
accessible to JAWS and MAGic users.
Do not forget to close any practice files you have open, and if you wish to
save them consider saving them with a different name so the original file
will be available for future practice. Thank you for joining me in this
DAISY training!

Last revised 2012/11/15

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 3:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: stop JAWS announcing headers

I don't understand. I thought this announcement only pertains to JAWS since
it's JAWS that speaks. Excel has keystrokes to do the same thing?
what are they? please explain so I may understand.

------- Original Message --------
From: Poppa Bear [mailto:heavens4real@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, Jan 2, 2017 6:10 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: stop JAWS announcing headers

Ok, that is the JAWS keystroke, I am trying to get into using the Excel
native keystroke to do the same thing.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 1:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: stop JAWS announcing headers

selected the cells in a row that comprise the column headers and press
control+alt+insert+c to set row headers to be spoken, and select the
cells in a column that comprise the row headers to be spoken and press
control+alt+insert+r to set the row headers to be spoken.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Poppa Bear [mailto:heavens4real@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, Jan 2, 2017 4:03 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: stop JAWS announcing headers

What method did you use to set the announcements

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Douglas C.
DeCamp
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 7:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: stop JAWS announcing headers

Mario,
Don't know if this is the same issue for you, but my Excel 2016 (after a
recent update) began speaking row and column numbers while moving around
the spreadsheet even though my verbosity was set to cell contents only. I
called Freedom Scientific who said this was a new known problem and that it
would be corrected in the next Jaws update.
Not sure if this is your exact same problem, but it sounds similar.
I am using Win 10, Jaws 18 latest update, & Excel 2016.
--hth---


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 9:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: stop JAWS announcing headers

I think you're confusing headers with headings? headings are h1, h2, h3,
etc.
and my problem is a JAWS issue where the setting of column and row headers
are spoken when I compose a different spreadsheet even though I haven't
setup JAWS to announce headers as I compose or navigate/read thru.

there must be a keystroke to affectively tell JAWS to unset the announcement
of column and row headers in a spreadsheet.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Poppa Bear [mailto:heavens4real@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, Jan 1, 2017 10:31 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: stop JAWS announcing headers

Are you using the same template? Once you set it in a spreadsheet I have not
found a way to stop it, perhaps try to save as and give it a slightly
different name and see if it still does it. Mayhap let us know what works
for you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: stop JAWS announcing headers

using Excel 2010, I have set JAWS to announce column and row headers as I
navigate a spreadsheet to facilitate in creating a record of an ongoing
issue. the problem I experience now when creating another spreadsheet for
something else, JAWS announces the column and row headers, even though I
haven't set JAWS to do so. quite confusing! how do I get JAWS to stop this.









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Re: windows live mail feedback

Dennis Brown
 

I’d like that tutorial on Windows 10 mail, please.
 

Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: windows live mail feedback
 

Hi all,

I am using the win10 mail app right now, and it works great for me. I have my messages come into the mail app in conversation view, so all threads are groupped together. The mail app works great with JAWS 18, and NVDA. When you import your eamil account into the mail app, select other account pop or IMAP no matter what kind of account it is and it will import into the mail app. If you type the first few letters of a email address into the to: edit, tab, then shift tab back, and JAWS will say the entire address that is there. I have a great written tutorial that I did for using the mail, calendar and people apps, please let me know if you want the tutorial, and I will send you a dropbox link to download it to your computer. I go through everything from setting up the mail app for the first time, to using it to its full potential. I have used it as my only email client for 2 months, and I can do everything you can do with an email client except for making message rules. You cannot make message rules, but I have 20 lists coming into my in box in conversation view, and I can go through 500 messages in 30 minutes. I have never needed message rules. Knowing that you cannot have message rules, please let me know if you still want my written text tutorial for the mail app.

Take care, guys,

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 4:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows live mail feedback

 

I use Outlook, but I was under the impression the Windows 10 native mail app was working quite well as of the anniversary update. I believe there was even something about that in one of Jonathan's FS casts. What issues to you have with the mail app? Have you updated to the anniversary update yet?

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of marvin hunkin

Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 2:10 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: windows live mail feedback

 

hi, my outlook is not working and not worth reinstalling or formatting windows for that, so, mail for windows 10 is not working for me, with jaws, so, pasting a link below to give feedback to microsoft, to see if they will reverse their decision to stop supporting windows live 2012, or to have a new updated app for windows 10. pasting the link below.

marvin.

https://survey2.securestudies.com/wix/p283998968.aspxMarvin

 

 

--

Marvin Hunkin

Blind Information Technology Student

http://www.upskilled.edu.au

 

 

 

 

 

 


Problem Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Tom Behler
 

Hello.

 

I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.

 

I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.

 

I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft e-mails re-appear.

 

Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in my personal g-mail account and eliminating the messages that way, but this does not always work either.

 

Has anyone else experienced this issue?  And, if so, how did you ultimately get rid of those stubborn draft messages?

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 


Re: stop JAWS announcing headers

Mario
 

I don't understand. I thought this announcement only pertains to JAWS
since it's JAWS that speaks. Excel has keystrokes to do the same thing?
what are they? please explain so I may understand.

------- Original Message --------
From: Poppa Bear [mailto:heavens4real@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, Jan 2, 2017 6:10 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: stop JAWS announcing headers

Ok, that is the JAWS keystroke, I am trying to get into using the Excel
native keystroke to do the same thing.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 1:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: stop JAWS announcing headers

selected the cells in a row that comprise the column headers and press
control+alt+insert+c to set row headers to be spoken, and select the
cells in a column that comprise the row headers to be spoken and press
control+alt+insert+r to set the row headers to be spoken.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Poppa Bear [mailto:heavens4real@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, Jan 2, 2017 4:03 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: stop JAWS announcing headers

What method did you use to set the announcements

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Douglas C.
DeCamp
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 7:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: stop JAWS announcing headers

Mario,
Don't know if this is the same issue for you, but my Excel 2016 (after a
recent update) began speaking row and column numbers while moving around
the spreadsheet even though my verbosity was set to cell contents only. I
called Freedom Scientific who said this was a new known problem and that it
would be corrected in the next Jaws update.
Not sure if this is your exact same problem, but it sounds similar.
I am using Win 10, Jaws 18 latest update, & Excel 2016.
--hth---


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 9:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: stop JAWS announcing headers

I think you're confusing headers with headings? headings are h1, h2, h3,
etc.
and my problem is a JAWS issue where the setting of column and row headers
are spoken when I compose a different spreadsheet even though I haven't
setup JAWS to announce headers as I compose or navigate/read thru.

there must be a keystroke to affectively tell JAWS to unset the announcement
of column and row headers in a spreadsheet.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Poppa Bear [mailto:heavens4real@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, Jan 1, 2017 10:31 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: stop JAWS announcing headers

Are you using the same template? Once you set it in a spreadsheet I have not
found a way to stop it, perhaps try to save as and give it a slightly
different name and see if it still does it. Mayhap let us know what works
for you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: stop JAWS announcing headers

using Excel 2010, I have set JAWS to announce column and row headers as I
navigate a spreadsheet to facilitate in creating a record of an ongoing
issue. the problem I experience now when creating another spreadsheet for
something else, JAWS announces the column and row headers, even though I
haven't set JAWS to do so. quite confusing! how do I get JAWS to stop this.









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