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Re: Music program software

Nicole Massey <nyyki@...>
 

I don't see why it couldn't be used to import music and find out the notes and durations of a piece.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 2:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Music program software

Can Sibelius be used for music score imports, as a way to learn the notes of a piece, such as for piano? Or, is it mostly used by blind folks for creating scores?

Thanks, keith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 11:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Music program software

Note, that the correct Sibelius version is 5.2.5. And it needs to be requested as a downgrade after purchasing the current version.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole Massey" <nyyki@gypsyheir.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 19:15
Subject: Re: Music program software


Your options for notation software are as follows:
Sibelius Access is a set of Jaws scripts you can use to work with notated music in Sibelius. Though work is being done to update them, for right now you'd need to run version 5.02 of Sibelius to use them. Do a search on the web for Sibelius Access and you should find both the scripts and also the mailing list that will help you navigate through getting things set up.
Lime Aloud is another option, and will give you more capability in creating Braille music. Talk to the folks at Dancing Dots about this option.
There's no current option I know of for Finale, Encore, Score, or Steinberg's new notation program. (the name escapes me at the moment for the last one) Pro Tools is inaccessible with Jaws -- you'll need a Mac and Voiceover to do anything with it for now. The same goes for Logic, as it's also a Mac only option. (There is no current version of Logic for Windows or any other non-Apple operating system) Reaper is the popular option right now for blind audio users, though Samplitude is also accessible with the addition of scripts and hot keys. Sonar is also an option, but you'll need an older version, as development of Cake Talking hasn't kept up with the versions.
Also note that Audacity is fully blind accessible too.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of eploux via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 11:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Music program software

Hello I am inquiring as to whether anyone using JAWS out there has used music programs such as Sibelius, Logic or Por tools?? I am trying to find out tif they are compatible with JAWS.

thanks


Re: Music program software

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

Can Sibelius be used for music score imports, as a way to learn the notes of a piece, such as for piano? Or, is it mostly used by blind folks for creating scores?

Thanks, keith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 11:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Music program software

Note, that the correct Sibelius version is 5.2.5. And it needs to be requested as a downgrade after purchasing the current version.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole Massey" <nyyki@gypsyheir.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 19:15
Subject: Re: Music program software


Your options for notation software are as follows:
Sibelius Access is a set of Jaws scripts you can use to work with notated
music in Sibelius. Though work is being done to update them, for right now
you'd need to run version 5.02 of Sibelius to use them. Do a search on the
web for Sibelius Access and you should find both the scripts and also the
mailing list that will help you navigate through getting things set up.
Lime Aloud is another option, and will give you more capability in creating
Braille music. Talk to the folks at Dancing Dots about this option.
There's no current option I know of for Finale, Encore, Score, or
Steinberg's new notation program. (the name escapes me at the moment for the
last one)
Pro Tools is inaccessible with Jaws -- you'll need a Mac and Voiceover to do
anything with it for now. The same goes for Logic, as it's also a Mac only
option. (There is no current version of Logic for Windows or any other
non-Apple operating system) Reaper is the popular option right now for blind
audio users, though Samplitude is also accessible with the addition of
scripts and hot keys. Sonar is also an option, but you'll need an older
version, as development of Cake Talking hasn't kept up with the versions.
Also note that Audacity is fully blind accessible too.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of eploux via
Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 11:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Music program software

Hello I am inquiring as to whether anyone using JAWS out there has used
music programs such as Sibelius, Logic or Por tools?? I am trying to find
out tif they are compatible with JAWS.

thanks


Re: OK what's this pop up I just got and ain't accessible?

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

Thanks much! I've put those handy command away in my JAWS commands folder!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 2:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OK what's this pop up I just got and ain't accessible?

There are four different ways to use Convenient OCR, the "D" option you
describe only works on a PDF document as Mario already said.
If you use Jaws Key+Space and O you can also use "C" which does OCR on a
control element, "S" which does OCR on the entire screen and "W" which as
Mario pointed out will do OCR in the currently active window.
I usually try the "S" or "W" and see what gets me better results.

Regards,
Sieghhard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Ulrich
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 7:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OK what's this pop up I just got and ain't accessible?

I just tried Insert, O then W. It seemed to work. But all it said was
something like:
Copy and maybe paste format. Like it had something to do with Microsoft
word? I did have word running in the background.
I gave up on it and closed out the box.

Thanks for your help though, I'll remember that Insert Space Bar O W
command.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OK what's this pop up I just got and ain't accessible?

why do you press d when trying the ocr feature? isn't it used when
performing the ocr on a "empty" PDF?

I would imagine w would be more appropriate since it's for the active
window.

you can also try, but I think you've already did, pressing insert+b.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike Ulrich [mailto:mulrich@centurylink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, Dec 6, 2016 9:23 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OK what's this pop up I just got and ain't accessible?

A pop up of sorts just came up on my laptop running windows 7, JAWS 16.0 In
which all JAWS will tell me is: UNC Server.

I tried firing up the JAWS OCR, but it doesn't seem to be able to read?
Insert Space Bar; O, D. Then all I hear is a high pitched ding dong doorbell
like sound.



I thought this new JAWS OCR could read something like this?



Any idea of what this "UNC Server" is?

Or if I'm doing anything wrong with my JAWS OCR?





Michael D. Ulrich

Just an ordinary average blind guy!

"Providing Insight for Blindness"

Florida Council of the Blind

Fundraising Committee Member



*BLIND POKER CRAWL IV!*

*SATURDAY DECEMBER 3, 2016!*

*"KIND OF LIKE A MOTORCYCLE POKER RUN, EXCEPT THEY WON'T LET US DRIVE!*



Mike's home Phone: 239-540-7431

Mike's cell phone: 239-565-5845

Mike's email: mulrich@centurylink.net


Re: Music program software

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

What's the VIP website? Thanks. Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 12:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Music program software

The other choice is the VIP web site. However, the latest music software has some problems of it's own. The people that create HSC scripts are updateing them now.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nicole Massey
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 8:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Music program software

Note that that's the last version of Sonar supported by Cake Talking. And though Dancing Dots was once a strong resource for information for folks looking for accessible music options, there are a lot of other options out there that they don't support, some of which are current versions of the software instead of several versions back.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 11:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Music program software

If you’re looking for any type of music software, you can go to http://www.dancingdots.com. You will find a large collection of software to fit your needs to include any type of DAW work station.

They all work with Jaws up through Jaws 17. Jaws 18.0 hasn’t been tested yet for Cake talking, and I’m not Shure about the other programs. The good people at Dancing Dots will tell you. I only have Cake talking for Sonar 8.5, and have used it for years.

James



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of eploux via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 9:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Music program software



Hello I am inquiring as to whether anyone using JAWS out there has used music programs such as Sibelius, Logic or Por tools?? I am trying to find out tif they are compatible with JAWS.

thanks


Re: OK what's this pop up I just got and ain't accessible?

 

There are four different ways to use Convenient OCR, the "D" option you describe only works on a PDF document as Mario already said.
If you use Jaws Key+Space and O you can also use "C" which does OCR on a control element, "S" which does OCR on the entire screen and "W" which as Mario pointed out will do OCR in the currently active window.
I usually try the "S" or "W" and see what gets me better results.

Regards,
Sieghhard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 7:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OK what's this pop up I just got and ain't accessible?

I just tried Insert, O then W. It seemed to work. But all it said was something like:
Copy and maybe paste format. Like it had something to do with Microsoft word? I did have word running in the background.
I gave up on it and closed out the box.

Thanks for your help though, I'll remember that Insert Space Bar O W command.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OK what's this pop up I just got and ain't accessible?

why do you press d when trying the ocr feature? isn't it used when performing the ocr on a "empty" PDF?

I would imagine w would be more appropriate since it's for the active window.

you can also try, but I think you've already did, pressing insert+b.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike Ulrich [mailto:mulrich@centurylink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, Dec 6, 2016 9:23 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OK what's this pop up I just got and ain't accessible?

A pop up of sorts just came up on my laptop running windows 7, JAWS 16.0 In which all JAWS will tell me is: UNC Server.

I tried firing up the JAWS OCR, but it doesn't seem to be able to read?
Insert Space Bar; O, D. Then all I hear is a high pitched ding dong doorbell like sound.



I thought this new JAWS OCR could read something like this?



Any idea of what this "UNC Server" is?

Or if I'm doing anything wrong with my JAWS OCR?





Michael D. Ulrich

Just an ordinary average blind guy!

"Providing Insight for Blindness"

Florida Council of the Blind

Fundraising Committee Member



*BLIND POKER CRAWL IV!*

*SATURDAY DECEMBER 3, 2016!*

*"KIND OF LIKE A MOTORCYCLE POKER RUN, EXCEPT THEY WON'T LET US DRIVE!*



Mike's home Phone: 239-540-7431

Mike's cell phone: 239-565-5845

Mike's email: mulrich@centurylink.net


Re: Music program software

James Malone
 

The other choice is the VIP web site. However, the latest music software has some problems of it's own. The people that create HSC scripts are updateing them now.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nicole Massey
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 8:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Music program software

Note that that's the last version of Sonar supported by Cake Talking. And though Dancing Dots was once a strong resource for information for folks looking for accessible music options, there are a lot of other options out there that they don't support, some of which are current versions of the software instead of several versions back.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 11:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Music program software

If you’re looking for any type of music software, you can go to http://www.dancingdots.com. You will find a large collection of software to fit your needs to include any type of DAW work station.

They all work with Jaws up through Jaws 17. Jaws 18.0 hasn’t been tested yet for Cake talking, and I’m not Shure about the other programs. The good people at Dancing Dots will tell you. I only have Cake talking for Sonar 8.5, and have used it for years.

James



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of eploux via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 9:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Music program software



Hello I am inquiring as to whether anyone using JAWS out there has used music programs such as Sibelius, Logic or Por tools?? I am trying to find out tif they are compatible with JAWS.

thanks


Re: Music program software

Nicole Massey <nyyki@...>
 

Note that that's the last version of Sonar supported by Cake Talking. And though Dancing Dots was once a strong resource for information for folks looking for accessible music options, there are a lot of other options out there that they don't support, some of which are current versions of the software instead of several versions back.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 11:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Music program software

If you’re looking for any type of music software, you can go to http://www.dancingdots.com. You will find a large collection of software to fit your needs to include any type of DAW work station.

They all work with Jaws up through Jaws 17. Jaws 18.0 hasn’t been tested yet for Cake talking, and I’m not Shure about the other programs. The good people at Dancing Dots will tell you. I only have Cake talking for Sonar 8.5, and have used it for years.

James



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of eploux via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 9:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Music program software



Hello I am inquiring as to whether anyone using JAWS out there has used music programs such as Sibelius, Logic or Por tools?? I am trying to find out tif they are compatible with JAWS.

thanks


Re: Music program software

Nicole Massey <nyyki@...>
 

Thanks for that, I figured the mailing list could step the interested party through the downgrade process, as it involves some steps.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 11:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Music program software

Note, that the correct Sibelius version is 5.2.5. And it needs to be requested as a downgrade after purchasing the current version.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole Massey" <nyyki@gypsyheir.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 19:15
Subject: Re: Music program software


Your options for notation software are as follows:
Sibelius Access is a set of Jaws scripts you can use to work with notated
music in Sibelius. Though work is being done to update them, for right now
you'd need to run version 5.02 of Sibelius to use them. Do a search on the
web for Sibelius Access and you should find both the scripts and also the
mailing list that will help you navigate through getting things set up.
Lime Aloud is another option, and will give you more capability in creating
Braille music. Talk to the folks at Dancing Dots about this option.
There's no current option I know of for Finale, Encore, Score, or
Steinberg's new notation program. (the name escapes me at the moment for the
last one)
Pro Tools is inaccessible with Jaws -- you'll need a Mac and Voiceover to do
anything with it for now. The same goes for Logic, as it's also a Mac only
option. (There is no current version of Logic for Windows or any other
non-Apple operating system) Reaper is the popular option right now for blind
audio users, though Samplitude is also accessible with the addition of
scripts and hot keys. Sonar is also an option, but you'll need an older
version, as development of Cake Talking hasn't kept up with the versions.
Also note that Audacity is fully blind accessible too.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of eploux via
Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 11:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Music program software

Hello I am inquiring as to whether anyone using JAWS out there has used
music programs such as Sibelius, Logic or Por tools?? I am trying to find
out tif they are compatible with JAWS.

thanks


Re: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?

Soronel Haetir
 

The one thing I recall with OB (though it has been a long time since I
used it) was that OB does a much better job about detecting spaces
than jaws convenient OCR. Convenient OCR has a nasty habit of not
detecting spaces for me and I then get huge 'words' that I have to
pick apart.

On 12/4/16, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
It can recognize text on screens which are otherwise inaccessible and if
there are elements like a Next button or a link you can click it with the
Jaws cursor. I have had installation screens of software which were just
blank to Jaws and when I ran Convenient OCR on them I was able to do what
needed to be done.
Also, if you open a PDF file which is an image you can OCR the entire
document with a single layered keystroke without ever bringing up Openbook.
I also own Openbook, but ever since Convenient OCR can do entire PDF
documents I haven't used it once and I don't even have it installed any
more. If I need to scan a paper document I either use my iPhone with KNFB
Reader or I just scan it on my Fujitsu Scansnap at my business which is a
sheet scanner and it can scan a stack of 10 double sided pages in less than
30 seconds, then I just select the Save to File option which saves the scan
as a PDF, I open the PDF and press Jaws Key + Space followed by O and D
which is the keystroke to do OCR on the entire PDF document. The result gets
put in the virtual viewer, if I need to keep it I can just to a Select All,
then copy and paste it into Notepad, Word or wherever.
I think Convenient OCR is the biggest feature in Jaws since quick nav keys
for the internet.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of ptusing
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 11:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?

Hi,
If one had Open Book, what would be the order of installation of the JAWS
OCR?
Separate question.
If one has a great earlier version but very stable version of JAWS 16,
Can one download and use the installer for JAWS OCr?



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel
Haetir
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?

It can be downloaded and installed from the same page as the jaws
installer.

Note that I recently tried installing OpenBook and after doing so jaws
convenient OCR ceased functioning (I even tried re-installing both jaws and
the convenient OCR package without success). It required uninstalling
OpenBook for jaws convenient OCR to work again. I keep meaning to try
un-installing jaws, installing OpenBook and then re-installing jaws and see
if that fixes the problem but I have not got around to doing so.

On 12/4/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
...should be able to download the necessary files from the Freedom
Scientific web site, under JAWS Downloads. Version 16 will still be
there, with the last build.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Ford
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 11:09
Subject: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?


Hi All,
I recently did a typical install of JAWS 16 on my HP laptop. When I
try to use the JAWS OCR, JAWS says the component is not installed.
Please advise on how I install the OCR.

Sincerely,
Timothy Ford


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Re: OK what's this pop up I just got and ain't accessible?

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

I just tried Insert, O then W. It seemed to work. But all it said was
something like:
Copy and maybe paste format. Like it had something to do with Microsoft
word? I did have word running in the background.
I gave up on it and closed out the box.

Thanks for your help though, I'll remember that Insert Space Bar O W
command.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OK what's this pop up I just got and ain't accessible?

why do you press d when trying the ocr feature? isn't it used when
performing the ocr on a "empty" PDF?

I would imagine w would be more appropriate since it's for the active
window.

you can also try, but I think you've already did, pressing insert+b.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike Ulrich [mailto:mulrich@centurylink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, Dec 6, 2016 9:23 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OK what's this pop up I just got and ain't accessible?

A pop up of sorts just came up on my laptop running windows 7, JAWS 16.0
In which all JAWS will tell me is: UNC Server.

I tried firing up the JAWS OCR, but it doesn't seem to be able to read?
Insert Space Bar; O, D. Then all I hear is a high pitched ding dong
doorbell like sound.



I thought this new JAWS OCR could read something like this?



Any idea of what this "UNC Server" is?

Or if I'm doing anything wrong with my JAWS OCR?





Michael D. Ulrich

Just an ordinary average blind guy!

"Providing Insight for Blindness"

Florida Council of the Blind

Fundraising Committee Member



*BLIND POKER CRAWL IV!*

*SATURDAY DECEMBER 3, 2016!*

*"KIND OF LIKE A MOTORCYCLE POKER RUN, EXCEPT THEY WON'T LET US DRIVE!*



Mike's home Phone: 239-540-7431

Mike's cell phone: 239-565-5845

Mike's email: mulrich@centurylink.net


Re: Music program software

James Malone
 

Your welcome. Bill MC Can, Dancing Dots PCO has been a good friend of mine since 1996, and he’s been writing music for ever.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Palmer Loux via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 3:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Music program software

 

Many thx James!

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 6, 2016, at 12:50 AM, "James Malone" <malone_j@...> wrote:

If you’re looking for any type of music software, you can go to http://www.dancingdots.com. You will find a large collection of software to fit your needs to include any type of DAW work station.

They all work with Jaws up through Jaws 17. Jaws 18.0 hasn’t been tested yet for Cake talking, and I’m not Shure about the other programs. The good people at Dancing Dots will tell you. I only have Cake talking for Sonar 8.5, and have used it for years.

James

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of eploux via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 9:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Music program software

 

Hello I am inquiring as to whether anyone using JAWS out there has used music programs such as Sibelius, Logic or Por tools??  I am trying to find out tif they are compatible with JAWS.

thanks


Re: OK what's this pop up I just got and ain't accessible?

Mario
 

why do you press d when trying the ocr feature? isn't it used when
performing the ocr on a "empty" PDF?

I would imagine w would be more appropriate since it's for the active
window.

you can also try, but I think you've already did, pressing insert+b.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike Ulrich [mailto:mulrich@centurylink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, Dec 6, 2016 9:23 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OK what's this pop up I just got and ain't accessible?

A pop up of sorts just came up on my laptop running windows 7, JAWS 16.0
In which all JAWS will tell me is: UNC Server.

I tried firing up the JAWS OCR, but it doesn’t seem to be able to read?
Insert Space Bar; O, D. Then all I hear is a high pitched ding dong
doorbell like sound.



I thought this new JAWS OCR could read something like this?



Any idea of what this “UNC Server” is?

Or if I’m doing anything wrong with my JAWS OCR?





Michael D. Ulrich

Just an ordinary average blind guy!

“Providing Insight for Blindness”

Florida Council of the Blind

Fundraising Committee Member



*BLIND POKER CRAWL IV!*

*SATURDAY DECEMBER 3, 2016!*

*“KIND OF LIKE A MOTORCYCLE POKER RUN, EXCEPT THEY WON’T LET US DRIVE!*



Mike’s home Phone: 239-540-7431

Mike’s cell phone: 239-565-5845

Mike’s email: mulrich@centurylink.net


MS Forms and JAWS?

Cynthia Bruce
 

Hi All,

My doctoral program is apparently planning to survey students using Microsoft forms. Does anyone have experience with this to know how well it works with JAWS?

Thanks,

Cynthia


OK what's this pop up I just got and ain't accessible?

Mike Ulrich <mulrich@...>
 

A pop up of sorts just came up on my laptop running windows 7, JAWS 16.0 In which all JAWS will tell me  is: UNC Server.

I tried firing up the JAWS OCR, but it doesn’t seem to be able to read? Insert Space Bar; O, D. Then all I hear is a high pitched ding dong doorbell like sound.

 

I thought this new JAWS OCR could read something like this?

 

Any idea of what this “UNC Server” is?

Or if I’m doing anything wrong with my JAWS OCR?

 

 

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Re: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Absolutely!

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 6:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?

It can recognize text on screens which are otherwise inaccessible and if there are elements like a Next button or a link you can click it with the Jaws cursor. I have had installation screens of software which were just blank to Jaws and when I ran Convenient OCR on them I was able to do what needed to be done.
Also, if you open a PDF file which is an image you can OCR the entire document with a single layered keystroke without ever bringing up Openbook. I also own Openbook, but ever since Convenient OCR can do entire PDF documents I haven't used it once and I don't even have it installed any more. If I need to scan a paper document I either use my iPhone with KNFB Reader or I just scan it on my Fujitsu Scansnap at my business which is a sheet scanner and it can scan a stack of 10 double sided pages in less than 30 seconds, then I just select the Save to File option which saves the scan as a PDF, I open the PDF and press Jaws Key + Space followed by O and D which is the keystroke to do OCR on the entire PDF document. The result gets put in the virtual viewer, if I need to keep it I can just to a Select All, then copy and paste it into Notepad, Word or wherever.
I think Convenient OCR is the biggest feature in Jaws since quick nav keys for the internet.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of ptusing
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 11:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?

Hi,
If one had Open Book, what would be the order of installation of the JAWS OCR?
Separate question.
If one has a great earlier version but very stable version of JAWS 16, Can one download and use the installer for JAWS OCr?



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?

It can be downloaded and installed from the same page as the jaws installer.

Note that I recently tried installing OpenBook and after doing so jaws convenient OCR ceased functioning (I even tried re-installing both jaws and the convenient OCR package without success). It required uninstalling OpenBook for jaws convenient OCR to work again. I keep meaning to try un-installing jaws, installing OpenBook and then re-installing jaws and see if that fixes the problem but I have not got around to doing so.

On 12/4/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
...should be able to download the necessary files from the Freedom
Scientific web site, under JAWS Downloads. Version 16 will still be
there, with the last build.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Ford
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 11:09
Subject: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?


Hi All,
I recently did a typical install of JAWS 16 on my HP laptop. When I
try to use the JAWS OCR, JAWS says the component is not installed.
Please advise on how I install the OCR.

Sincerely,
Timothy Ford


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Re: Music program software

Palmer Loux
 

Many thx James!

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 6, 2016, at 12:50 AM, "James Malone" <malone_j@...> wrote:

If you’re looking for any type of music software, you can go to http://www.dancingdots.com. You will find a large collection of software to fit your needs to include any type of DAW work station.

They all work with Jaws up through Jaws 17. Jaws 18.0 hasn’t been tested yet for Cake talking, and I’m not Shure about the other programs. The good people at Dancing Dots will tell you. I only have Cake talking for Sonar 8.5, and have used it for years.

James

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of eploux via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 9:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Music program software

 

Hello I am inquiring as to whether anyone using JAWS out there has used music programs such as Sibelius, Logic or Por tools??  I am trying to find out tif they are compatible with JAWS.

thanks


Re: Music program software

Palmer Loux
 

Many thx Dave!

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 6, 2016, at 12:03 AM, "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Note, that the correct Sibelius version is 5.2.5. And it needs to be
requested as a downgrade after purchasing the current version.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole Massey" <nyyki@gypsyheir.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 19:15
Subject: Re: Music program software


Your options for notation software are as follows:
Sibelius Access is a set of Jaws scripts you can use to work with notated
music in Sibelius. Though work is being done to update them, for right now
you'd need to run version 5.02 of Sibelius to use them. Do a search on the
web for Sibelius Access and you should find both the scripts and also the
mailing list that will help you navigate through getting things set up.
Lime Aloud is another option, and will give you more capability in creating
Braille music. Talk to the folks at Dancing Dots about this option.
There's no current option I know of for Finale, Encore, Score, or
Steinberg's new notation program. (the name escapes me at the moment for the
last one)
Pro Tools is inaccessible with Jaws -- you'll need a Mac and Voiceover to do
anything with it for now. The same goes for Logic, as it's also a Mac only
option. (There is no current version of Logic for Windows or any other
non-Apple operating system) Reaper is the popular option right now for blind
audio users, though Samplitude is also accessible with the addition of
scripts and hot keys. Sonar is also an option, but you'll need an older
version, as development of Cake Talking hasn't kept up with the versions.
Also note that Audacity is fully blind accessible too.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of eploux via
Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 11:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Music program software

Hello I am inquiring as to whether anyone using JAWS out there has used
music programs such as Sibelius, Logic or Por tools?? I am trying to find
out tif they are compatible with JAWS.

thanks










Re: Music program software

James Malone
 

If you’re looking for any type of music software, you can go to http://www.dancingdots.com. You will find a large collection of software to fit your needs to include any type of DAW work station.

They all work with Jaws up through Jaws 17. Jaws 18.0 hasn’t been tested yet for Cake talking, and I’m not Shure about the other programs. The good people at Dancing Dots will tell you. I only have Cake talking for Sonar 8.5, and have used it for years.

James

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of eploux via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 9:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Music program software

 

Hello I am inquiring as to whether anyone using JAWS out there has used music programs such as Sibelius, Logic or Por tools??  I am trying to find out tif they are compatible with JAWS.

thanks


Re: Music program software

Dave...
 

Note, that the correct Sibelius version is 5.2.5. And it needs to be
requested as a downgrade after purchasing the current version.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole Massey" <nyyki@gypsyheir.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 19:15
Subject: Re: Music program software


Your options for notation software are as follows:
Sibelius Access is a set of Jaws scripts you can use to work with notated
music in Sibelius. Though work is being done to update them, for right now
you'd need to run version 5.02 of Sibelius to use them. Do a search on the
web for Sibelius Access and you should find both the scripts and also the
mailing list that will help you navigate through getting things set up.
Lime Aloud is another option, and will give you more capability in creating
Braille music. Talk to the folks at Dancing Dots about this option.
There's no current option I know of for Finale, Encore, Score, or
Steinberg's new notation program. (the name escapes me at the moment for the
last one)
Pro Tools is inaccessible with Jaws -- you'll need a Mac and Voiceover to do
anything with it for now. The same goes for Logic, as it's also a Mac only
option. (There is no current version of Logic for Windows or any other
non-Apple operating system) Reaper is the popular option right now for blind
audio users, though Samplitude is also accessible with the addition of
scripts and hot keys. Sonar is also an option, but you'll need an older
version, as development of Cake Talking hasn't kept up with the versions.
Also note that Audacity is fully blind accessible too.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of eploux via
Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 11:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Music program software

Hello I am inquiring as to whether anyone using JAWS out there has used
music programs such as Sibelius, Logic or Por tools?? I am trying to find
out tif they are compatible with JAWS.

thanks


Re: Music program software

Palmer Loux
 

Wow thank you kindly my client had lost a lot of his vision he is a percussionistand I will pass this along

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 5, 2016, at 10:15 PM, "Nicole Massey" <nyyki@gypsyheir.com> wrote:

Your options for notation software are as follows:
Sibelius Access is a set of Jaws scripts you can use to work with notated music in Sibelius. Though work is being done to update them, for right now you'd need to run version 5.02 of Sibelius to use them. Do a search on the web for Sibelius Access and you should find both the scripts and also the mailing list that will help you navigate through getting things set up.
Lime Aloud is another option, and will give you more capability in creating Braille music. Talk to the folks at Dancing Dots about this option.
There's no current option I know of for Finale, Encore, Score, or Steinberg's new notation program. (the name escapes me at the moment for the last one)
Pro Tools is inaccessible with Jaws -- you'll need a Mac and Voiceover to do anything with it for now. The same goes for Logic, as it's also a Mac only option. (There is no current version of Logic for Windows or any other non-Apple operating system) Reaper is the popular option right now for blind audio users, though Samplitude is also accessible with the addition of scripts and hot keys. Sonar is also an option, but you'll need an older version, as development of Cake Talking hasn't kept up with the versions. Also note that Audacity is fully blind accessible too.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of eploux via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 11:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Music program software

Hello I am inquiring as to whether anyone using JAWS out there has used music programs such as Sibelius, Logic or Por tools?? I am trying to find out tif they are compatible with JAWS.

thanks