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Re: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?

Soronel Haetir
 

After installing OB and then trying jaws convenient OCR I kept getting
a message that the jaws OCR package was not installed (which is why I
tried installing it from the FS website and also doing a jaws repair
then re-install).

It took uninstalling OB and re-installing jaws before convenient OCR
worked once more.

On 12/4/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
...never had a problem with convenient OCR conflicting with Openbook.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 11:44
Subject: Re: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?


Hi,
If one had Open Book, what would be the order of installation of the JAWS
OCR?
Separate question.
If one has a great earlier version but very stable version of JAWS 16,
Can one download and use the installer for JAWS OCr?



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel
Haetir
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?

It can be downloaded and installed from the same page as the jaws
installer.

Note that I recently tried installing OpenBook and after doing so jaws
convenient OCR ceased functioning (I even tried re-installing both jaws and

the convenient OCR package without success). It required uninstalling
OpenBook for jaws convenient OCR to work again. I keep meaning to try
un-installing jaws, installing OpenBook and then re-installing jaws and see

if that fixes the problem but I have not got around to doing so.

On 12/4/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
...should be able to download the necessary files from the Freedom
Scientific web site, under JAWS Downloads. Version 16 will still be
there, with the last build.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Ford
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 11:09
Subject: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?


Hi All,
I recently did a typical install of JAWS 16 on my HP laptop. When I
try to use the JAWS OCR, JAWS says the component is not installed.
Please advise on how I install the OCR.

Sincerely,
Timothy Ford


--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com









--
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soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Re: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?

Dave...
 

...never had a problem with convenient OCR conflicting with Openbook.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 11:44
Subject: Re: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?


Hi,
If one had Open Book, what would be the order of installation of the JAWS
OCR?
Separate question.
If one has a great earlier version but very stable version of JAWS 16,
Can one download and use the installer for JAWS OCr?



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel
Haetir
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?

It can be downloaded and installed from the same page as the jaws installer.

Note that I recently tried installing OpenBook and after doing so jaws
convenient OCR ceased functioning (I even tried re-installing both jaws and
the convenient OCR package without success). It required uninstalling
OpenBook for jaws convenient OCR to work again. I keep meaning to try
un-installing jaws, installing OpenBook and then re-installing jaws and see
if that fixes the problem but I have not got around to doing so.

On 12/4/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
...should be able to download the necessary files from the Freedom
Scientific web site, under JAWS Downloads. Version 16 will still be
there, with the last build.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Ford
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 11:09
Subject: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?


Hi All,
I recently did a typical install of JAWS 16 on my HP laptop. When I
try to use the JAWS OCR, JAWS says the component is not installed.
Please advise on how I install the OCR.

Sincerely,
Timothy Ford


--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Re: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

It can recognize text on screens which are otherwise inaccessible and if there are elements like a Next button or a link you can click it with the Jaws cursor. I have had installation screens of software which were just blank to Jaws and when I ran Convenient OCR on them I was able to do what needed to be done.
Also, if you open a PDF file which is an image you can OCR the entire document with a single layered keystroke without ever bringing up Openbook. I also own Openbook, but ever since Convenient OCR can do entire PDF documents I haven't used it once and I don't even have it installed any more. If I need to scan a paper document I either use my iPhone with KNFB Reader or I just scan it on my Fujitsu Scansnap at my business which is a sheet scanner and it can scan a stack of 10 double sided pages in less than 30 seconds, then I just select the Save to File option which saves the scan as a PDF, I open the PDF and press Jaws Key + Space followed by O and D which is the keystroke to do OCR on the entire PDF document. The result gets put in the virtual viewer, if I need to keep it I can just to a Select All, then copy and paste it into Notepad, Word or wherever.
I think Convenient OCR is the biggest feature in Jaws since quick nav keys for the internet.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of ptusing
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 11:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?

Hi,
If one had Open Book, what would be the order of installation of the JAWS OCR?
Separate question.
If one has a great earlier version but very stable version of JAWS 16, Can one download and use the installer for JAWS OCr?



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?

It can be downloaded and installed from the same page as the jaws installer.

Note that I recently tried installing OpenBook and after doing so jaws convenient OCR ceased functioning (I even tried re-installing both jaws and the convenient OCR package without success). It required uninstalling OpenBook for jaws convenient OCR to work again. I keep meaning to try un-installing jaws, installing OpenBook and then re-installing jaws and see if that fixes the problem but I have not got around to doing so.

On 12/4/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
...should be able to download the necessary files from the Freedom
Scientific web site, under JAWS Downloads. Version 16 will still be
there, with the last build.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Ford
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 11:09
Subject: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?


Hi All,
I recently did a typical install of JAWS 16 on my HP laptop. When I
try to use the JAWS OCR, JAWS says the component is not installed.
Please advise on how I install the OCR.

Sincerely,
Timothy Ford


--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Re: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?

ptusing <ptusing@...>
 

Hi,
If one had Open Book, what would be the order of installation of the JAWS OCR?
Separate question.
If one has a great earlier version but very stable version of JAWS 16,
Can one download and use the installer for JAWS OCr?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 2:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?

It can be downloaded and installed from the same page as the jaws installer.

Note that I recently tried installing OpenBook and after doing so jaws convenient OCR ceased functioning (I even tried re-installing both jaws and the convenient OCR package without success). It required uninstalling OpenBook for jaws convenient OCR to work again. I keep meaning to try un-installing jaws, installing OpenBook and then re-installing jaws and see if that fixes the problem but I have not got around to doing so.

On 12/4/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
...should be able to download the necessary files from the Freedom
Scientific web site, under JAWS Downloads. Version 16 will still be
there, with the last build.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Ford
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 11:09
Subject: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?


Hi All,
I recently did a typical install of JAWS 16 on my HP laptop. When I
try to use the JAWS OCR, JAWS says the component is not installed.
Please advise on how I install the OCR.

Sincerely,
Timothy Ford


--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Re: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?

Soronel Haetir
 

It can be downloaded and installed from the same page as the jaws installer.

Note that I recently tried installing OpenBook and after doing so jaws
convenient OCR ceased functioning (I even tried re-installing both
jaws and the convenient OCR package without success). It required
uninstalling OpenBook for jaws convenient OCR to work again. I keep
meaning to try un-installing jaws, installing OpenBook and then
re-installing jaws and see if that fixes the problem but I have not
got around to doing so.

On 12/4/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
...should be able to download the necessary files from the Freedom
Scientific web site, under JAWS Downloads. Version 16 will still be there,
with the last build.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Ford
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 11:09
Subject: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?


Hi All,
I recently did a “typical” install of JAWS 16 on my HP laptop. When I try
to use the JAWS OCR, JAWS says the component is not installed. Please
advise on how I install the OCR.

Sincerely,
Timothy Ford

--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Re: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?

Dave...
 


...should be able to download the necessary files from the Freedom Scientific web site, under JAWS Downloads. Version 16 will still be there, with the last build.
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Ford
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 11:09
Subject: How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?

Hi All,
I recently did a “typical” install of JAWS 16 on my HP laptop.  When I try to use the JAWS OCR, JAWS says the component is not installed.  Please advise on how I install the OCR.
 
Sincerely,
Timothy Ford
 


How do I install the OCR component in JAWS 16?

Tim Ford
 

Hi All,
I recently did a “typical” install of JAWS 16 on my HP laptop.  When I try to use the JAWS OCR, JAWS says the component is not installed.  Please advise on how I install the OCR.
 
Sincerely,
Timothy Ford
 


Re: Virtual Ribbon Menu - On or Off by Default?

 

On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 05:58 pm, brian albriton wrote:
What I have done is kept a list of handy keystrokes, some of which are committed to memory.

Brian,

         And menus or ribbons, sighted or not, this is what most people end up doing.  I always describe the "committed to memory" list as an individual's "greatest hits," and each and every one of us have them.

         Although there were advantages, first letter navigation being one of them, to menus there was a strong tendency to rely on that too heavily rather than learning the keyboard shortcuts that would allow an individual to maximize both their efficiency and ease of use.

         I give all my clients a general "cheat sheet" of handy keystrokes and try to make clear which are Windows keystrokes, specific application keystrokes, and screen reader keystrokes.  This seems like it's either trivial or overkill, but if you find yourself in a "it's not speaking" situation and you have a clear idea of where you were, and what you need to do to gracefully save, exit, and restart, it can be a huge work saver and mental comfort.

         One thing that people don't get told, or don't get told often enough, is that you can jump between control groups in the ribbon, which equate to a submenu, using CTRL+Right Arrow or Left Arrow to move to the first control in the next or previous group.  It's immensely faster than brute force tabbing and allows you to hear the group names, which often allow you to know that you've hit what's likely the right group for the control you're seeking.
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Virtual Ribbon Menu - On or Off by Default?

brian albriton
 

I’ve never gotten used to the ribbon structure. What I have done is kept a list of handy keystrokes, some of which are committed to memory.

Those kinds of keystrokes get broken if you have the virtual ribbon turned on. In short, I concur with your method of teaching.

Brian

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2016 7:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Virtual Ribbon Menu - On or Off by Default?

 

Thanks to all for the info.  I had been hoping that "OFF" was the default, and thought that it was, but wanted to confirm.

I really prefer to teach people how to actually use the ribbon interface in its native form.  It's here to stay and, once you get used to it, not all that much different than menus.  The keyboard shortcuts that are native to a number of Windows programs get obliterated if Virtual Ribbon Menu is on, and I've found that to be distinctly not helpful.
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: creating shortcuts for windows10 apps, example, windows 10 mail app.

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Another way to have acces to the most used app/programs is to put them on the taskbar. This works for both Windows 7 and Windows 10 as long as you know the order your applications are in on the taskbar. If you do, for example, have Internet Explorer, Outlook, Word, Excel, Skype, Itunes and Notepad, you have a total of 7 applications on the taskbar and all you have to do to quickly and easily access them is to press and hold the Windows key and press numbers 1 through 7. For example, Windows+1 would open Internet Explorer, Windows+2 would open Outlook, Windows+3 is Word all the way to Windows+7 for Notepad.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Melissa Stott
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 4:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: creating shortcuts for windows10 apps, example, windows 10 mail app.

 

Thanks for this info.  I will soon have a new computer with Windows10, so I am preparing myself.

 

From: david

Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 2:40 PM

Subject: creating shortcuts for windows10 apps, example, windows 10 mail app.

 

 

As you become more familiar with Windows 10, you will likely appreciate how easy it is to access the universal apps and desktop applications you use every

day … assuming you do so from either Start or the taskbar. But one thing Windows 10 doesn’t provide is a way to create a shortcut to these apps so you

can launch them from the desktop or elsewhere.

 

Or, at least an obvious way.

 

But as it turns out, all of the applications installed on your PC, including the universal apps that come with Windows 10 or are downloaded from Windows

Store are accessible from a hidden shell view called Applications.  Once you open this view in File Explorer, you can create shortcuts for any of them. Open the Run dialog (Windows+R=run), type in:

shell:AppsFolder

 

and then press enter  to view this folder.

 

apps-folder

 

Find an app you wish to create a shortcut for, right-click  (applications key, or, shift+f10 and choose Create shortcut from the pop-up menu that appears.

 

create-shortcut

 

You’ll be prompted that the shortcut cannot be placed here, and Windows will recommend placing it on the desktop instead. Press enter on  Yes. A shortcut with the name App-Name  Shortcut (Mail Shortcut) will appear on the desktop. You can leave this as-is, or rename it (I usually remove the word, Shortcut). And you can of course move the shortcut to any folder as needed.

 

Now, just repeat for all the app shortcuts you need.


Re: Does anybody know the correct e-mail address to freedom scientific? Addison

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

support@FreedomScientific.com also still works and probably will continue to do so. For larger companies who run their own email exchange servers it is not a big deal to have and maintain whatever email addresses they want.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 4:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anybody know the correct e-mail address to freedom scientific? Addison

Thanks for those who's answer back to me. But I find out the correct e-mail address for freedom support technical support is Support@VFO-Group.com Addison

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 5:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anybody know the correct e-mail address to freedom scientific? Addison

The FS web site is still up and the www.vfo-group.com Brands page links to it. I would certainly expect that until those conditions change that support@freedomscientific.com should remain valid.
Perhaps they are simply having a problem right now (I have sent a message to that address within the last week).

On 12/2/16, Jeanette McAllister PhD
<Jeanette@mcallisterenterprisesusa.com> wrote:
Try vfo-group.com

Dr. Jeanette McAllister
757-346-0708

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 2, 2016, at 4:51 PM, O.Addison Gethers
<o.addisongethers@gmail.com>
wrote:

Thank you but I try that and got delivery failed !!


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Soronel Haetir
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 3:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Does anybody know the correct e-mail address to freedom
scientific? Addison

Hi,

FS tech support address is: support@freedomscientific.com

On 12/2/16, O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello All,

Does anybody know the correct e-mail address to contact freedom
scientific ?

Addison




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Re: styles on MS word

Pablo Morales
 

Ok, I think that my problem is that I was misunderstanding the whole point.
When we insert headings pressing control+alt+1 or 2 or 3, we are creating
headings. However headings 1, 2, or 3 are styles.
I was confused because I was thinking that the styles are something that
provide a better appearance to a document, and I have tried some styles and
they don't have headings. So I was thinking, why is good do not use
headings?
But now I understand that headings inserted as manually or using the style
GroupBox, are the same thing.
Ok guys, forget my question, I was seeing the whole topic from the wrong
angle.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Hourigan
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 2:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: styles on MS word

When creating a style you can change the text size, font, etc, for the
various headings as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo
Morales
Sent: December 3, 2016 10:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: styles on MS word

They talk about headings level 1,2, and 3. Styles of this type work a little
bit different than other styles that I have seen.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Hourigan
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 1:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: styles on MS word

The FS paid webinar with Word goes into styles quite a bit.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo
Morales
Sent: December 3, 2016 9:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: styles on MS word

Yes, it is exactly what I am asking.
My concern about styles, is that to be able to use them, you need to know
how they looks like.
For a sighted people watch this is easy and great. But if we need to press
Insert + F on every title, paragraph, it could be a pain in our fingers. So
I don't know how efficient or convenient is to use styles on word documents.
I don't know, let me work on this more and see if I am able to fish more
benefits.
Thank you so much for your answer,


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette,
Ed
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 11:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: styles on MS word


Indeed, I'm not sure what you are asking, but I'll assume that you want to
know the benefit of using styles. For simple documents, they really do not
do much, but if you create complex documents such as contracts or want to
ensure your documents look professional, styles are helpful, if not
essential.
If you are quoting a long passage and want it to be block indented one inch
from the left and right margins, you can produce that look with keystrokes,
or you could simply apply the "Block Indent" style.
If, in one contract, you want the progression to be Section 1, then Section
1.1, then (a), and then (i), you can set up your numbering styles
automatically to apply those numbers, and you can associate text font,
indent, and format characteristics for each style. The style applies until
a paragraph marker is encountered. When you apply styles that are set in
advance and known, you don't have to worry that the various paragraphs in
your document are formatted correctly. In JAWS, just press JawsKey plus f
to hear the style (or turn on automatic style enunciations).
Of course, you can create a whole array of templates with different styles,
just modifying the Heading 1, Heading 2, Heading 3, and so on styles. In
one document, Heading One might be "ARTICLE I." In another, it might be
Section 1. You can have multiple styles in one template document.
Finally, styles, I am told, are more enduring than are free form formatting
codes. I don't know whether that is true, but that was the official
Microsoft line when the legal world was converting from Word Perfect to MS
Word.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo
Morales
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: styles on MS word

Hi all,
I am not 100% sure about the styles on MS Word. Let me explain to you what I
am trying to ask.
We are able to create paragraph formats on text with some keystrokes, we are
able to create headings level 1,2,3, and so on. All of these with some
keystrokes.
What is the real benefit of the use of styles already design over these
keystrokes?
Thank you so much,






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Re: styles on MS word

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

When creating a style you can change the text size, font, etc, for the
various headings as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo
Morales
Sent: December 3, 2016 10:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: styles on MS word

They talk about headings level 1,2, and 3. Styles of this type work a little
bit different than other styles that I have seen.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Hourigan
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 1:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: styles on MS word

The FS paid webinar with Word goes into styles quite a bit.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo
Morales
Sent: December 3, 2016 9:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: styles on MS word

Yes, it is exactly what I am asking.
My concern about styles, is that to be able to use them, you need to know
how they looks like.
For a sighted people watch this is easy and great. But if we need to press
Insert + F on every title, paragraph, it could be a pain in our fingers. So
I don't know how efficient or convenient is to use styles on word documents.
I don't know, let me work on this more and see if I am able to fish more
benefits.
Thank you so much for your answer,


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette,
Ed
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 11:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: styles on MS word


Indeed, I'm not sure what you are asking, but I'll assume that you want to
know the benefit of using styles. For simple documents, they really do not
do much, but if you create complex documents such as contracts or want to
ensure your documents look professional, styles are helpful, if not
essential.
If you are quoting a long passage and want it to be block indented one inch
from the left and right margins, you can produce that look with keystrokes,
or you could simply apply the "Block Indent" style.
If, in one contract, you want the progression to be Section 1, then Section
1.1, then (a), and then (i), you can set up your numbering styles
automatically to apply those numbers, and you can associate text font,
indent, and format characteristics for each style. The style applies until
a paragraph marker is encountered. When you apply styles that are set in
advance and known, you don't have to worry that the various paragraphs in
your document are formatted correctly. In JAWS, just press JawsKey plus f
to hear the style (or turn on automatic style enunciations).
Of course, you can create a whole array of templates with different styles,
just modifying the Heading 1, Heading 2, Heading 3, and so on styles. In
one document, Heading One might be "ARTICLE I." In another, it might be
Section 1. You can have multiple styles in one template document.
Finally, styles, I am told, are more enduring than are free form formatting
codes. I don't know whether that is true, but that was the official
Microsoft line when the legal world was converting from Word Perfect to MS
Word.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo
Morales
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: styles on MS word

Hi all,
I am not 100% sure about the styles on MS Word. Let me explain to you what I
am trying to ask.
We are able to create paragraph formats on text with some keystrokes, we are
able to create headings level 1,2,3, and so on. All of these with some
keystrokes.
What is the real benefit of the use of styles already design over these
keystrokes?
Thank you so much,






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Re: styles on MS word

Pablo Morales
 

They talk about headings level 1,2, and 3. Styles of this type work a little
bit different than other styles that I have seen.

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Hourigan
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 1:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: styles on MS word

The FS paid webinar with Word goes into styles quite a bit.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo
Morales
Sent: December 3, 2016 9:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: styles on MS word

Yes, it is exactly what I am asking.
My concern about styles, is that to be able to use them, you need to know
how they looks like.
For a sighted people watch this is easy and great. But if we need to press
Insert + F on every title, paragraph, it could be a pain in our fingers. So
I don't know how efficient or convenient is to use styles on word documents.
I don't know, let me work on this more and see if I am able to fish more
benefits.
Thank you so much for your answer,


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette,
Ed
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 11:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: styles on MS word


Indeed, I'm not sure what you are asking, but I'll assume that you want to
know the benefit of using styles. For simple documents, they really do not
do much, but if you create complex documents such as contracts or want to
ensure your documents look professional, styles are helpful, if not
essential.
If you are quoting a long passage and want it to be block indented one inch
from the left and right margins, you can produce that look with keystrokes,
or you could simply apply the "Block Indent" style.
If, in one contract, you want the progression to be Section 1, then Section
1.1, then (a), and then (i), you can set up your numbering styles
automatically to apply those numbers, and you can associate text font,
indent, and format characteristics for each style. The style applies until
a paragraph marker is encountered. When you apply styles that are set in
advance and known, you don't have to worry that the various paragraphs in
your document are formatted correctly. In JAWS, just press JawsKey plus f
to hear the style (or turn on automatic style enunciations).
Of course, you can create a whole array of templates with different styles,
just modifying the Heading 1, Heading 2, Heading 3, and so on styles. In
one document, Heading One might be "ARTICLE I." In another, it might be
Section 1. You can have multiple styles in one template document.
Finally, styles, I am told, are more enduring than are free form formatting
codes. I don't know whether that is true, but that was the official
Microsoft line when the legal world was converting from Word Perfect to MS
Word.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo
Morales
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: styles on MS word

Hi all,
I am not 100% sure about the styles on MS Word. Let me explain to you what I
am trying to ask.
We are able to create paragraph formats on text with some keystrokes, we are
able to create headings level 1,2,3, and so on. All of these with some
keystrokes.
What is the real benefit of the use of styles already design over these
keystrokes?
Thank you so much,






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Re: styles on MS word

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

The FS paid webinar with Word goes into styles quite a bit.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo
Morales
Sent: December 3, 2016 9:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: styles on MS word

Yes, it is exactly what I am asking.
My concern about styles, is that to be able to use them, you need to know
how they looks like.
For a sighted people watch this is easy and great. But if we need to press
Insert + F on every title, paragraph, it could be a pain in our fingers. So
I don't know how efficient or convenient is to use styles on word documents.
I don't know, let me work on this more and see if I am able to fish more
benefits.
Thank you so much for your answer,


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette,
Ed
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 11:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: styles on MS word


Indeed, I'm not sure what you are asking, but I'll assume that you want to
know the benefit of using styles. For simple documents, they really do not
do much, but if you create complex documents such as contracts or want to
ensure your documents look professional, styles are helpful, if not
essential.
If you are quoting a long passage and want it to be block indented one inch
from the left and right margins, you can produce that look with keystrokes,
or you could simply apply the "Block Indent" style.
If, in one contract, you want the progression to be Section 1, then Section
1.1, then (a), and then (i), you can set up your numbering styles
automatically to apply those numbers, and you can associate text font,
indent, and format characteristics for each style. The style applies until
a paragraph marker is encountered. When you apply styles that are set in
advance and known, you don't have to worry that the various paragraphs in
your document are formatted correctly. In JAWS, just press JawsKey plus f
to hear the style (or turn on automatic style enunciations).
Of course, you can create a whole array of templates with different styles,
just modifying the Heading 1, Heading 2, Heading 3, and so on styles. In
one document, Heading One might be "ARTICLE I." In another, it might be
Section 1. You can have multiple styles in one template document.
Finally, styles, I am told, are more enduring than are free form formatting
codes. I don't know whether that is true, but that was the official
Microsoft line when the legal world was converting from Word Perfect to MS
Word.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo
Morales
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: styles on MS word

Hi all,
I am not 100% sure about the styles on MS Word. Let me explain to you what I
am trying to ask.
We are able to create paragraph formats on text with some keystrokes, we are
able to create headings level 1,2,3, and so on. All of these with some
keystrokes.
What is the real benefit of the use of styles already design over these
keystrokes?
Thank you so much,






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Re: styles on MS word

Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@...>
 

One never uses more than a few styles in any single document. Once you know the format characteristics of a particular style, you never have to check it again. If you use "Body Text," and you check it to see it is: first line indent, Times New Roman, 12 Point, Regular, justified, no indent, then you know those are the characteristics of that style. In a basic letter, that may be the style used in every paragraph of the body.
You may have different styles for "Date Line," which may be indented 5 inches. Another style could be for your signature block, which may be indented 4 inches. You can change the style names to make them as descriptive as you like.
It is a mistake not to use styles -- if you ever write anything more complicated than simple documents.
Just start out with a blank document. Then, bring up the style chooser and pick one.
Then, check out its characteristics. Modify as necessary, including changing the name. Then, do it again for some other part of the document. You can then delete all the text and just save the file as a template. The next time you want to create a document where appearance and consistency are crucial, bring up the template, save under a name that describes the document, and then add your text, applying styles as appropriate.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 11:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: styles on MS word

Yes, it is exactly what I am asking.
My concern about styles, is that to be able to use them, you need to know how they looks like.
For a sighted people watch this is easy and great. But if we need to press Insert + F on every title, paragraph, it could be a pain in our fingers. So I don't know how efficient or convenient is to use styles on word documents.
I don't know, let me work on this more and see if I am able to fish more benefits.
Thank you so much for your answer,


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 11:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: styles on MS word


Indeed, I'm not sure what you are asking, but I'll assume that you want to know the benefit of using styles. For simple documents, they really do not do much, but if you create complex documents such as contracts or want to ensure your documents look professional, styles are helpful, if not essential.
If you are quoting a long passage and want it to be block indented one inch from the left and right margins, you can produce that look with keystrokes, or you could simply apply the "Block Indent" style.
If, in one contract, you want the progression to be Section 1, then Section 1.1, then (a), and then (i), you can set up your numbering styles automatically to apply those numbers, and you can associate text font, indent, and format characteristics for each style. The style applies until a paragraph marker is encountered. When you apply styles that are set in advance and known, you don't have to worry that the various paragraphs in your document are formatted correctly. In JAWS, just press JawsKey plus f to hear the style (or turn on automatic style enunciations).
Of course, you can create a whole array of templates with different styles, just modifying the Heading 1, Heading 2, Heading 3, and so on styles. In one document, Heading One might be "ARTICLE I." In another, it might be Section 1. You can have multiple styles in one template document.
Finally, styles, I am told, are more enduring than are free form formatting codes. I don't know whether that is true, but that was the official Microsoft line when the legal world was converting from Word Perfect to MS Word.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: styles on MS word

Hi all,
I am not 100% sure about the styles on MS Word. Let me explain to you what I am trying to ask.
We are able to create paragraph formats on text with some keystrokes, we are able to create headings level 1,2,3, and so on. All of these with some keystrokes.
What is the real benefit of the use of styles already design over these keystrokes?
Thank you so much,






----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Thank you.


Re: styles on MS word

Pablo Morales
 

Yes, it is exactly what I am asking.
My concern about styles, is that to be able to use them, you need to know
how they looks like.
For a sighted people watch this is easy and great. But if we need to press
Insert + F on every title, paragraph, it could be a pain in our fingers. So
I don't know how efficient or convenient is to use styles on word documents.
I don't know, let me work on this more and see if I am able to fish more
benefits.
Thank you so much for your answer,

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marquette,
Ed
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 11:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: styles on MS word


Indeed, I'm not sure what you are asking, but I'll assume that you want to
know the benefit of using styles. For simple documents, they really do not
do much, but if you create complex documents such as contracts or want to
ensure your documents look professional, styles are helpful, if not
essential.
If you are quoting a long passage and want it to be block indented one inch
from the left and right margins, you can produce that look with keystrokes,
or you could simply apply the "Block Indent" style.
If, in one contract, you want the progression to be Section 1, then Section
1.1, then (a), and then (i), you can set up your numbering styles
automatically to apply those numbers, and you can associate text font,
indent, and format characteristics for each style. The style applies until
a paragraph marker is encountered. When you apply styles that are set in
advance and known, you don't have to worry that the various paragraphs in
your document are formatted correctly. In JAWS, just press JawsKey plus f
to hear the style (or turn on automatic style enunciations).
Of course, you can create a whole array of templates with different styles,
just modifying the Heading 1, Heading 2, Heading 3, and so on styles. In
one document, Heading One might be "ARTICLE I." In another, it might be
Section 1. You can have multiple styles in one template document.
Finally, styles, I am told, are more enduring than are free form formatting
codes. I don't know whether that is true, but that was the official
Microsoft line when the legal world was converting from Word Perfect to MS
Word.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo
Morales
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: styles on MS word

Hi all,
I am not 100% sure about the styles on MS Word. Let me explain to you what I
am trying to ask.
We are able to create paragraph formats on text with some keystrokes, we are
able to create headings level 1,2,3, and so on. All of these with some
keystrokes.
What is the real benefit of the use of styles already design over these
keystrokes?
Thank you so much,






----------------------------------------------------------------------
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recipients above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney
work product or otherwise protected by applicable law. If you have received
this message in error, please notify the sender at 402-346-6000 and delete
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Thank you.


Re: styles on MS word

Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@...>
 

Indeed, I'm not sure what you are asking, but I'll assume that you want to know the benefit of using styles. For simple documents, they really do not do much, but if you create complex documents such as contracts or want to ensure your documents look professional, styles are helpful, if not essential.
If you are quoting a long passage and want it to be block indented one inch from the left and right margins, you can produce that look with keystrokes, or you could simply apply the "Block Indent" style.
If, in one contract, you want the progression to be Section 1, then Section 1.1, then (a), and then (i), you can set up your numbering styles automatically to apply those numbers, and you can associate text font, indent, and format characteristics for each style. The style applies until a paragraph marker is encountered. When you apply styles that are set in advance and known, you don't have to worry that the various paragraphs in your document are formatted correctly. In JAWS, just press JawsKey plus f to hear the style (or turn on automatic style enunciations).
Of course, you can create a whole array of templates with different styles, just modifying the Heading 1, Heading 2, Heading 3, and so on styles. In one document, Heading One might be "ARTICLE I." In another, it might be Section 1. You can have multiple styles in one template document.
Finally, styles, I am told, are more enduring than are free form formatting codes. I don't know whether that is true, but that was the official Microsoft line when the legal world was converting from Word Perfect to MS Word.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: styles on MS word

Hi all,
I am not 100% sure about the styles on MS Word. Let me explain to you what I am trying to ask.
We are able to create paragraph formats on text with some keystrokes, we are able to create headings level 1,2,3, and so on. All of these with some keystrokes.
What is the real benefit of the use of styles already design over these keystrokes?
Thank you so much,






----------------------------------------------------------------------
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that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by applicable law. If you have received this
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styles on MS word

Pablo Morales
 

Hi all,
I am not 100% sure about the styles on MS Word. Let me explain to you what I
am trying to ask.
We are able to create paragraph formats on text with some keystrokes, we are
able to create headings level 1,2,3, and so on. All of these with some
keystrokes.
What is the real benefit of the use of styles already design over these
keystrokes?
Thank you so much,


Re: Virtual Ribbon Menu - On or Off by Default?

 

Thanks to all for the info.  I had been hoping that "OFF" was the default, and thought that it was, but wanted to confirm.

I really prefer to teach people how to actually use the ribbon interface in its native form.  It's here to stay and, once you get used to it, not all that much different than menus.  The keyboard shortcuts that are native to a number of Windows programs get obliterated if Virtual Ribbon Menu is on, and I've found that to be distinctly not helpful.
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Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

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