Mark,

Are you trying to add contacts from scratch?  You are right that there can be a number of things that are one-time setup that are peculiar since the People app and the Mail App are separate.  One of those is, if you have multiple e-mail accounts, you need to set one as default on which new contacts will be added (though you can shift to any other as a one-time exercise or change the default if you have a batch of new contacts you want to add).

It would be helpful to know where you're getting stuck and what it is you're trying to accomplish at that moment in time.
--
Brian

A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

~ William James

Re: excel questions

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)

A straight range would also work, if there are any values in that range at all. That always worked for me when I was figuring grades.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 3:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: excel questions

Joe,

There may be another function for averaging that avoids any zero values.
Otherwise, create a formula that first finds all non-zero values, and then
adds them up and divide by the total count of non-zero values. That takes a
few functions, but workable. I recall doing something like this several
years ago. First try to find a built-in function that averages all non-zero
values.

Also, check the Excel help function to look for any web-sourced solutions to

Farfar Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: <stintonjoe@btinternet.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:40
Subject: Re: excel questions

ok I'm now trying to get excel to tell me the AVERAGE of cells B102 D102
F102 G102 H102 I102 J102 K102 L102 M102
the problem being at the moment not all the cells have a number in them and
all it says is div 0,but as time goes on they will all have a number in
them.
the formula i have tried is =AVERAGE(B102 D102 F102 G102 H102 I102 J102 K102
L102 M102) but with this fromaler as far as I can tell the advridge of
these numbers all need a number in for it to show anything.
for example if b 102 and f 102 have numbers in I still get nothing in the
average cell.

well I hope you can make some sort of sense out of my ramblings.

cheers Joe
cheers Joe
-----Original Message
-----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: excel questions

I you want to use the formulas dialog, press ALT+m, then f. Tab to
the categories and choose all, then tab once more and find
average. You can fill in range after range after range, tabbing from
one to the next. Tabbing will *never get you to the okay button,
because it just allows for another range. Pressing enter might do
the okay, or shift+tab till you get back to okay.
At 03:27 AM 11/18/2016, you wrote:
hi all

ok i have jaws 17 and windows 7 and think all is up-to-date
I am trying to make a excel sheet, and what I need to do is first in the
row I need a average from cell b2 to cell l 2 , and again in cell b3 to l 3
now i need to do this in every row.
next i need a avridge in the collom from b2 to b 100 then again in c 2
to c 100 and d 2 to d 100 and so on.
but the problem is I cant work out how to get a average formula in the cell
I need.
well hope you can work out what im trying to get at and you havnt just
read this and thought darn my head now hurts lets go for a pint !!!

well if any one can help me with what I need to do I would be very

Mark, have a look at this post that's a mail, people, and calendar apps tutorial on the Win10 for Screen Reader Users group.
--
Brian

A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

~ William James

Mark Furness

I have gone to “people” to add contacts. I do not understand a lot of what is going on. Thus if there is any step by step instructions I would greatly appreciate them!

Mark F

Re: Certain web-based applications not working with Jaws 18

Ricardo Teodoro

Jaws is not useful as it was in the past. Nvda and even narrator is much better nowadays.

-----Mensagem Original-----
From: Michael Mote
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Certain web-based applications not working with Jaws 18

Is there anyway I could see the site in question, so I could test it on this end to see if it's just your version of JAWS or if it is acting consistently on other computers as well?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 9:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Certain web-based applications not working with Jaws 18

Hi all,

Just curious whether anyone has come across any web sites or web-based applications that don't work with jaws 18?

I work for the federal govt and we have a web-based application for time keeping -- entering vacation time or sick time etc. Although I can log on with jaws 18, once in the application none of the links work. At first I thought it was a problem with the app itself. But once I switched back to jaws 17, everything worked perfectly.

Anyone seen anything like this?

--
Kimberly

Cristóbal

It’s a web based RSS service.

I have it  set as my homepage. I hank the first 100 feeds are free, but for more or  if you  want more features, it’s \$2.00 a month  or \$30.00 a year. I choose to  pay  and support the service.

It also works with Feedller Pro on  iOS. Thus  allowing  for cross-platform synchronicity.

There are keyboard commands and is fully accessible with Jaws.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vanna Song
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 9:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io

Hello Folks,

Soronel Haetir

On 11/19/16, Vanna Song <truewise.8614@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Folks,

What are some third-party RSS readers that will work with JAWS? I'm using
--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com

Re: update on outlook 2016 performance

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>

Insert z, press m and shift m to jump to next and previous spelling errors.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: update on outlook 2016 performance

What is the quick keys method?

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: update on outlook 2016 performance

I like the quick keys method for spell checking, as it’s quicker, at least in my case. When I turned it off the auto correction that wasn’t available.

Looks like I can’t have my cake and eat it too.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: update on outlook 2016 performance

Hi,

Just a thought you could always disable the auto-correct and merely keep spell check before sending; and always use f7 to check manually. Perhaps that’d further boost your positive results (smile). That’s how mine is set here.

I hope that helps.

Robin

From: Kimsan

Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 1:22 AM

Subject: update on outlook 2016 performance

Hi,

David sent an email earlier this week, if not, then last week suggesting I disable the ad-ins for a resolution to my sluggishness in outlook 2016. Since then, it’s been running much smoother; however, another suggestion was to turn off the autocorrection, which I did and it also ran smoothly. I’m a terrible speller so I had to turn it back on lol, but when I did, the problems I’m experiencing are ones I addressed previously where it will split words up and add blank lines when the words are split; however, it doesn’t do it as much.

What’s important here to note is the emailing is no longer slow, or borderline freezing.

Thanks David and to everyone else who have contributed.

Take care.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Re: update on outlook 2016 performance

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>

What is the quick keys method?

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: update on outlook 2016 performance

I like the quick keys method for spell checking, as it’s quicker, at least in my case. When I turned it off the auto correction that wasn’t available.

Looks like I can’t have my cake and eat it too.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: update on outlook 2016 performance

Hi,

Just a thought you could always disable the auto-correct and merely keep spell check before sending; and always use f7 to check manually. Perhaps that’d further boost your positive results (smile). That’s how mine is set here.

I hope that helps.

Robin

From: Kimsan

Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 1:22 AM

Subject: update on outlook 2016 performance

Hi,

David sent an email earlier this week, if not, then last week suggesting I disable the ad-ins for a resolution to my sluggishness in outlook 2016. Since then, it’s been running much smoother; however, another suggestion was to turn off the autocorrection, which I did and it also ran smoothly. I’m a terrible speller so I had to turn it back on lol, but when I did, the problems I’m experiencing are ones I addressed previously where it will split words up and add blank lines when the words are split; however, it doesn’t do it as much.

What’s important here to note is the emailing is no longer slow, or borderline freezing.

Thanks David and to everyone else who have contributed.

Take care.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Re: update on outlook 2016 performance

Pat Seed

﻿
Hi Robin and Everyone,
That is Exactly what I do. I do not have the auto correct on, because I do not like the interruption while I am typing, and do not want to figure out where I am in my thoughts and words. However, I do not send or save anything without doing a spell check, with the (insert F 7). I am a pretty good speller, but a fast typist. In fact, I never thought about this, until you said it, but I have learned from listening to the spelling.
Blessings and All the Very Best, Pat

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: update on outlook 2016 performance

Hi,
Just a thought you could always disable the auto-correct and merely keep spell check before sending; and always use f7 to check manually. Perhaps that’d further boost your positive results (smile). That’s how mine is set here.
I hope that helps.
Robin

From: Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 1:22 AM
Subject: update on outlook 2016 performance

Hi,

David sent an email earlier this week, if not, then last week suggesting I disable the ad-ins for a resolution to my sluggishness in outlook 2016. Since then, it’s been running much smoother; however, another suggestion was to turn off the autocorrection, which I did and it also ran smoothly. I’m a terrible speller so I had to turn it back on lol, but when I did, the problems I’m experiencing are ones I addressed previously where it will split words up and add blank lines when the words are split; however, it doesn’t do it as much.

What’s important here to note is the emailing is no longer slow, or borderline freezing.

Thanks David and to everyone else who have contributed.

Take care.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2016.0.7859 / Virus Database: 4664/13440 - Release Date: 11/19/16

Re: update on outlook 2016 performance

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>

I like the quick keys method for spell checking, as it’s quicker, at least in my case. When I turned it off the auto correction that wasn’t available.

Looks like I can’t have my cake and eat it too.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: update on outlook 2016 performance

Hi,

Just a thought you could always disable the auto-correct and merely keep spell check before sending; and always use f7 to check manually. Perhaps that’d further boost your positive results (smile). That’s how mine is set here.

I hope that helps.

Robin

From: Kimsan

Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 1:22 AM

Subject: update on outlook 2016 performance

Hi,

David sent an email earlier this week, if not, then last week suggesting I disable the ad-ins for a resolution to my sluggishness in outlook 2016. Since then, it’s been running much smoother; however, another suggestion was to turn off the autocorrection, which I did and it also ran smoothly. I’m a terrible speller so I had to turn it back on lol, but when I did, the problems I’m experiencing are ones I addressed previously where it will split words up and add blank lines when the words are split; however, it doesn’t do it as much.

What’s important here to note is the emailing is no longer slow, or borderline freezing.

Thanks David and to everyone else who have contributed.

Take care.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Re: update on outlook 2016 performance

Robin Frost

Hi,
Just a thought you could always disable the auto-correct and merely keep spell check before sending; and always use f7 to check manually. Perhaps that’d further boost your positive results (smile). That’s how mine is set here.
I hope that helps.
Robin

From: Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 1:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: update on outlook 2016 performance

Hi,

David sent an email earlier this week, if not, then last week suggesting I disable the ad-ins for a resolution to my sluggishness in outlook 2016. Since then, it’s been running much smoother; however, another suggestion was to turn off the autocorrection, which I did and it also ran smoothly. I’m a terrible speller so I had to turn it back on lol, but when I did, the problems I’m experiencing are ones I addressed previously where it will split words up and add blank lines when the words are split; however, it doesn’t do it as much.

What’s important here to note is the emailing is no longer slow, or borderline freezing.

Thanks David and to everyone else who have contributed.

Take care.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

update on outlook 2016 performance

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>

Hi,

David sent an email earlier this week, if not, then last week suggesting I disable the ad-ins for a resolution to my sluggishness in outlook 2016. Since then, it’s been running much smoother; however, another suggestion was to turn off the autocorrection, which I did and it also ran smoothly. I’m a terrible speller so I had to turn it back on lol, but when I did, the problems I’m experiencing are ones I addressed previously where it will split words up and add blank lines when the words are split; however, it doesn’t do it as much.

What’s important here to note is the emailing is no longer slow, or borderline freezing.

Thanks David and to everyone else who have contributed.

Take care.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Hello Folks,

Re: editing a draft in windows live mail

Ryan,

How you receive your messages should have nothing to do with drafts being saved in the Drafts folder.

As an aside, and I think it needs to be said as a general point, it is rude to ask for help in public, in a forum where others may be experiencing the same problem or problems and be helped by the answers, and immediately request private responses.  I won't do that, period.  If you need to turn on digests or to follow your own single thread rather than a digest via the web interface that's what you should be doing.
--
Brian

A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

~ William James

Re: editing a draft in windows live mail

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>

Did you try pressing enter to go into editing mode?

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ryan Coverdell
Sent: November 19, 2016 6:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: editing a draft in windows live mail

I have my windows live mail set to receive all of my gmail messages in one folder. When I save a draft I cannot edit it. Pressing a key on the keyboard causes Jaws to try and perform some sort of function. Why is this? If I tried I could probably edit that same draft on my pac mate but I’d like to do this on the pc.

Regards,

Ryan Coverdell

editing a draft in windows live mail

Ryan Coverdell

I have my windows live mail set to receive all of my gmail messages in one folder. When I save a draft I cannot edit it. Pressing a key on the keyboard causes Jaws to try and perform some sort of function. Why is this? If I tried I could probably edit that same draft on my pac mate but I’d like to do this on the pc.

Regards,

Ryan Coverdell

Re: Brailliant bi question

john.falter

Why not contact theBrailliant bicustomer support?

On 11/18/2016 4:20 PM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:
```That's how I'd do it, but that still begs the question.  In my computer world, I can't do any of those things without first selecting the text I want to manipulate.  Well, ladies and gents, I'm not really good for much after 3:00 PM, Friday.
Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Griffiths
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 10:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Brailliant bi question

With the keyboard?

Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: 18 November 2016 13:43
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Brailliant bi question

How can you cut, copy, or paste without first selecting?

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Griffiths
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Brailliant bi question

Hi,

I'm not sure this is possible. The online command summary (link below) mentions the edit commands you give, navigating and reading, and even emulating the Shift key, but I can't get it to select anything.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kelsey Nicolay
Sent: 17 November 2016 03:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: brailliant bi question

Hello,
I was hoping someone could help me out.  I use a Brailliant Bi 40 with JAWS 18.  I looked in the manual and on Humanware's website, but I could not find how to select text using the Brailliant.  I found the commands to cut, copy, and paste, but I could not find how to actually select a block of text.  Therefore, for any Brailliant users, can someone explain how to select text?
Thank you,
Kelsey Nicolay

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(209617) and Scotland (SC038979).

Tel: 0118 9835555
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Email: guidedogs@...

The Guide Dogs for the Blind Association
Registered Office: Hillfields, Burghfield Common, Reading, Berkshire, RG7 3YG. A company limited by
guarantee registered in England and Wales (291646) and a charity registered in England and Wales
(209617) and Scotland (SC038979).

Tel: 0118 9835555
Website: www.guidedogs.org.uk
Email: guidedogs@...

```

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Re: Certain web-based applications not working with Jaws 18

Brent Harding

For my work, we use Kronos, and lucky for me, they have the lite version available for my machine where I go to get into it, otherwise that's one whose regular interface uses a lot of flash which gets unpredictable to where it will go in the activities section that we don't use instead of letting me punch in, and I wouldn't be able to approve easily. I can't see how much vacation I've earned with the lite one, but at least I don't have to create additional lost time or artificial lateness when help can take a long time to arrive.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Lange" <lange85@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: Certain web-based applications not working with Jaws 18

Hi,
I have seen similar behavior with an application called e-time, which I use at work for punching in and out, checking my time cards, et cetera. It worked fine with Jaws 17 but Jaws 18 was a problem. Try this procedure and see if it works; it did for me.
1) Go into settings center using insert+v.
2) In the search box" type "link activation".
3) In the search results, find "link activation".
4) Press the space bar once to change the setting from "enter simulates mouse click" to "enter presses Enter key", or something to that effect.
5) Tab to OK and press Enter to exit settings center.
6) Re-test the application; if it doesn't fix the issue, restart Jaws & re-test.

Hope this helps.
Tom

Sent from my iPhone 7

On Nov 18, 2016, at 8:11 AM, Paul Sandoval <ps8001@hotmail.com> wrote:

Kimber,

I am curious what the name of the application is called?
I have a client that this may directly effect.
Thank you.

On Nov 18, 2016, at 8:21 AM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

Just curious whether anyone has come across any web sites or web-based
applications that don't work with jaws 18?

I work for the federal govt and we have a web-based application for
time keeping -- entering vacation time or sick time etc. Although I
can log on with jaws 18, once in the application none of the links
work. At first I thought it was a problem with the app itself. But
once I switched back to jaws 17, everything worked perfectly.

Anyone seen anything like this?

--
Kimberly

Re: excel questions

That shouldn't matter. I tried it by putting in random numbers in column
a1:a10. I put the formula =average(a1:a10) in cell a11 and it came up with
an average. Not all cells had numbers in them. If you don't want the error
showing up you can try =ifError(average(a2:a101),""). The formula will show
a blanck cell if there is an error. As far as getting it to the other cells
I would just do a copy paste. I hope this helps.
Denver Dale

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
stintonjoe@btinternet.com
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: excel questions

ok I'm now trying to get excel to tell me the AVERAGE of cells B102 D102
F102 G102 H102 I102 J102 K102 L102 M102
the problem being at the moment not all the cells have a number in them and
all it says is div 0,but as time goes on they will all have a number in
them.
the formula i have tried is =AVERAGE(B102 D102 F102 G102 H102 I102 J102 K102
L102 M102) but with this fromaler as far as I can tell the advridge of
these numbers all need a number in for it to show anything.
for example if b 102 and f 102 have numbers in I still get nothing in the
average cell.

well I hope you can make some sort of sense out of my ramblings.

cheers Joe
cheers Joe
-----Original Message
-----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 1:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: excel questions

I you want to use the formulas dialog, press ALT+m, then f. Tab to the
categories and choose all, then tab once more and find average. You can
fill in range after range after range, tabbing from one to the next.
Tabbing will *never get you to the okay button, because it just allows for
another range. Pressing enter might do the okay, or shift+tab till you get
back to okay.
At 03:27 AM 11/18/2016, you wrote:
hi all

ok i have jaws 17 and windows 7 and think all is up-to-date I am trying
to make a excel sheet, and what I need to do is first in the row I
need a average from cell b2 to cell l 2 , and again in cell b3 to l 3
now i need to do this in every row.
next i need a avridge in the collom from b2 to b 100 then again in c
2 to c 100 and d 2 to d 100 and so on.
but the problem is I cant work out how to get a average formula in the
cell I need.
well hope you can work out what im trying to get at and you havnt just
read this and thought darn my head now hurts lets go for a pint !!!

well if any one can help me with what I need to do I would be very