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Re: Accessing File Types in Windows 7

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

I found it, but it won't let me add to the list.



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of john.falter
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 9:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessing File Types in Windows 7

Hello annabelle:

1. press the windows key going to search.

2. type ext.

3. arrow to change file extentions.

4. tab to a long list of file extentions.

Good luck.


On 11/4/2016 10:46 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
Hi, it's annabelle.
I know in Windows XP, if you go to "Folder Options", there's a tab that lists all the available file types and their extensions, as well as programs associated with the file types and you can add to the list, however, I don't see that in Windows 7. Is it hidden somewhere where I can't find it? I'm trying to add a file extension and it's description to the list, but there isn't an "Add" button anywhere on the screen. Maybe I'm missing something?




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Re: Accessing File Types in Windows 7

john.falter
 

Hello annabelle:

1. press the windows key going to search.

2. type ext.

3. arrow to change file extentions.

4. tab to a long list of file extentions.

Good luck.


On 11/4/2016 10:46 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
Hi, it's annabelle.
I know in Windows XP, if you go to "Folder Options", there's a tab that lists all the available file types and their extensions, as well as programs associated with the file types and you can add to the list, however, I don't see that in Windows 7. Is it hidden somewhere where I can't find it? I'm trying to add a file extension and it's description to the list, but there isn't an "Add" button anywhere on the screen. Maybe I'm missing something?




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Accessing File Types in Windows 7

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

Hi, it's annabelle.
I know in Windows XP, if you go to "Folder Options", there's a tab that lists all the available file types and their extensions, as well as programs associated with the file types and you can add to the list, however, I don't see that in Windows 7. Is it hidden somewhere where I can't find it? I'm trying to add a file extension and it's description to the list, but there isn't an "Add" button anywhere on the screen. Maybe I'm missing something?


how to delete a voice profile

marvin hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

Hi. is there a way to delete a voice profile for jaws 18.

Thanks.

 

Marvin Hunkin

Blind Information Technology Student

http://www.upskilled.edu.au

 


Re: A function in the script langauge

Soltész Miklós <solteszmiklos@...>
 

Hi Mario,
Thanks!

Best regards,

Miklós

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: A function in the script langauge


not to discourage from posting questions on this list, but you might
find it more useful to join the JAWS scripting list if you have specific
questions about writing scripts for JAWS, such as functions, statements,
etc.:
https://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripting

hope this helps you.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Soltész Miklós [mailto:solteszmiklos@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, Nov 3, 2016 7:47 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: A function in the script langauge

Hi All,
I want to use the function
SetActiveVoiceProfileByIndex ()
but its running depends of operation system and voiceprofiles. If
somebody knows script translation and using - can try my test script
below. It usually ends between 120 and 380 cycles.
The error: the voice becames other faster voice or silence.
Why?

Best regards,

Miklos

***



Script Test ()

Var

Int English,

Int Hungarian,

Int I,

Int J,

String S

Let S="2"

If !(InputBox("First voice index?","Test",S)) Then

Return

Endif

Let English=StringToInt(S)-1

Let S="5"

If !(InputBox("Second voice index?","Test",S)) Then

Return

Endif

Let Hungarian=StringToInt(S)-1

Let S="500"

If !(InputBox("How many times?","Test",S)) Then

Return

Endif

Let J=StringToInt(S)

If J==0 Then

SayString("Value error!")

Endif

For I=1 to J

Beep()

SetActiveVoiceProfileByIndex (Hungarian)

If (i/20)*20==I Then

SayInteger(I)

Delay(13,1)

Endif

SetActiveVoiceProfileByIndex (English)

If (I/20)*20==I Then

SayInteger(I)

Delay(15,1)

Endif

Endfor

SetActiveVoiceProfileByIndex (Hungarian)

SayString("It is end of script.")

EndScript






.


Re: excell reading number weird

Ann Byrne
 

In settings center:
text processing.
general.
filter repeated characters.
The choice that's active is 'count repeated characters'. Change it with the spacebar.

At 07:34 PM 11/3/2016, you wrote:
I placed 888.04 in a cell and jaws speeks it as 3 8.04
It seems as any number of same digits, in a row are replaced with the number of the same digit.
888 is replace with “3 8â€
6666 is replaced with “4 6â€
44444 is replaced with “5 4

I finally got numbers that were in the thousands to speak currectly and now this problem.
What setting now do I change?





excell reading number weird

Mark Furness
 

I placed 888.04 in a cell and jaws speeks it as 3 8.04

It seems as any number of same digits, in a row are replaced with the number of the same digit.

888 is replace with “3 8”

6666 is replaced with “4 6”

44444 is replaced with “5 4

 

I finally got numbers that were in the thousands to speak currectly  and now this problem.

What setting now do I change?

 

 




jfw18 with vista

marvin kotler
 

Good morning list, Marv here.  Running jfw17 with windows vista.  Cannot use jfw18 due to some error messages and such; called fs and was told vista is tood old for them to work with, so have to use 17 until I get a new computer.  Just wondered if anyone had any luck with jfw18 and vista?
 


hiding menu bar in itunes

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Hi,
How do I hide the menu bar in itunes? I keep getting this message after installing the blintoons scrips. I press alt v but not sure what I'm looking for.

Thanks.


Re: A function in the script langauge

Mario
 

not to discourage from posting questions on this list, but you might
find it more useful to join the JAWS scripting list if you have specific
questions about writing scripts for JAWS, such as functions, statements,
etc.:
https://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripting

hope this helps you.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Soltész Miklós [mailto:solteszmiklos@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, Nov 3, 2016 7:47 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: A function in the script langauge

Hi All,
I want to use the function
SetActiveVoiceProfileByIndex ()
but its running depends of operation system and voiceprofiles. If
somebody knows script translation and using - can try my test script
below. It usually ends between 120 and 380 cycles.
The error: the voice becames other faster voice or silence.
Why?

Best regards,

Miklos

***



Script Test ()

Var

Int English,

Int Hungarian,

Int I,

Int J,

String S

Let S="2"

If !(InputBox("First voice index?","Test",S)) Then

Return

Endif

Let English=StringToInt(S)-1

Let S="5"

If !(InputBox("Second voice index?","Test",S)) Then

Return

Endif

Let Hungarian=StringToInt(S)-1

Let S="500"

If !(InputBox("How many times?","Test",S)) Then

Return

Endif

Let J=StringToInt(S)

If J==0 Then

SayString("Value error!")

Endif

For I=1 to J

Beep()

SetActiveVoiceProfileByIndex (Hungarian)

If (i/20)*20==I Then

SayInteger(I)

Delay(13,1)

Endif

SetActiveVoiceProfileByIndex (English)

If (I/20)*20==I Then

SayInteger(I)

Delay(15,1)

Endif

Endfor

SetActiveVoiceProfileByIndex (Hungarian)

SayString("It is end of script.")

EndScript






.


Re: Another excel question: how to autofill a column

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Hello Steve,
Below are instructions from the FS Paid Webinar.
Cheers Kevin.
1. Move to an empty cell in the worksheet. I will move the cursor to cell A5, the beginning of the fifth row.
2. Type in the word January.
3. Hold down the SHIFT key and press RIGHT ARROW eleven times to select the range for the names of the months for the rest of the year.
4. Home tab of the ribbon, ALT+H
5. Location: Editing group of the lower ribbon
6. Fill button dropdown, FI
7. Series, S. The Series dialog box opens. Focus is in the step value edit box.
8. Press ALT+F to select the AutoFill radio button, and then press ENTER to activate the OK button. The dialog box closes and Excel has typed in the months
of the year for you in the selected range.
list end

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Griffiths
Sent: November 3, 2016 6:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Another excel question: how to autofill a column

Hi Kimber,

The keystrokes Dale give replicate what's in the cell above or to the left. But the autofill feature can create a series, which you'll need to get the list of increasing dates you want.

The way to do it is to fill in at least two consecutive dates, e.g. 11/01/2016 in A1 and 12/02/2016 in A2. Then select all the cells that you want to autofill. In your case that would be from A1 to about A365.

Then you need to go to the Home tab of the ribbon, choose Fill and you'll get a list, choose Series and a dialogue will open. The keytips are Alt, H, F, I, S. Note you have to press F I to get Fill.

On the dialogue, either Tab to the Type radio buttons and arrow to Autofill, or press Alt + F to select it straight away.

Press Enter to complete the process and the dialogue will close. The cells will still be selected, so use an arrow key to unselect them and put focus on a single cell. But you'll find you have 365 cells with dates increasing.

The same technique can be used with formulas, so give it a go and let us know how you get on!

Steve



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dale Alton
Sent: 03 November 2016 00:43
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Another excel question: how to autofill a column

To fill an area with the same formula: highlight the area to fill down is control+d and to fill right is control+r. So your formula you want to fill the rest of the cells with will be your first cell highlighted. Iff this is clear as mud let me know and I will try to explain better.

Denver Dale


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 5:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Another excel question: how to autofill a column

At least I think that's what I want to do.

I have several columns on my spreadsheet where I want to repeat a certain pattern or formula. For example, I want to replicate the date in the first column beginning with 11/01/2016 and continuing through 04/01/2017. But I don't want to type in all these dates. Googling produces instructions for accomplishing this task with the mouse but nothing with keystrokes.

In another column I have a formula that will change slightly depending on the coordinates of the cells being calculated even though the pattern of the formula stays the same. Is it possible to replicate the formula in the same way as I am doing with the dates?

I hope these questions are clear.

Thanks in advance for the help.


--
Kimberly









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Re: Tablet mode

Merv Keck <blind5sparrow@...>
 

Hi,
I am sitting here now in front of a 30 inch Dell All in One desktop touch screen running Jaws 17. It works great. I only get to play with it once in a while because it is in my Computer lab where I teach. But it works pretty well with Jaws 17. I don't know about 18 yet.

On Nov 3, 2016, at 12:47 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
Currently I use a Toshiba Satellite (custom built) with a touchscreen with JAWS and other screen readers on it. At the moment you can do certain things with touch alone, but there are times when you may need hardware keyboard such as when typing long text (speech recognition is not up there yet).
Cheers,
Joseph


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Tablet mode

Hi Joseph,

Thanks for that summary. Are you or have you used a touch capable device, either laptop or tablet? I am just wondering how well or not well it works with Jaws although my wife is sighted and also would use the laptop and probably enjoy the touch screen. I am actually reconsidering the Linovo Flex 3 convertible laptop as the reviews are not all that great. It has an I7 6500U CPU which is as far as I can tell a sixth generation Skylake processor, but I looked around a bit more and sort of fell in love with a 15.6 Asus Zenbook, still has a full keyboard and it's not an Ultra Book at 5 pounds, but the Linovo has only 8 Gb of DDR3 RAM, I wanted to put in another 8 Gb and the store then told me there is only 1 slot and they didn't have a 16 Gb stick in stock. I happen to have an Intel 480 Gb SSD which I was getting the store to put in to replace the included 1 Tb 5400 HDD.
The Asus Zenbook comes with 16 Gb of DDR4 RAM, it already has a 512 Gb ultra-fast SSD and the 6-cell battery has twice the capacityover that of the Linovo. In addition to that it has a 4K touch display which again would benefit my wife. I also think the keyboard is nicer, the Linovo keyboard layout is very cluttered, the Insert/Jaws key on the numeric pad is regular size and directly under the 2, under the 1 is already the right arrow key and there are zero gaps or spaces anywhere on that keyboard.
Of course the Asus is double the price, but I am buying it through my business and could justify it, it also has a USB-C port as well as a Thunderbolt USB-C style port, not sure if I would use it, but hopefully this will again last me another 5 or 6 years so who knows..

Take care,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 6:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Tablet mode

Hi,
Applies to Windows 10: Tablet mode changes Windows 10 UI to match closely that of Windows 8.x days. With this mode active, Start menu becomes a world of tiles, a "back" button is added to Taskbar, and overall UI becomes touch-friendly.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nesma Aly
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 3:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Tablet mode

What is tablit mode?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of thomas williams
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 5:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Tablet mode

Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Griffiths
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 5:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Tablet mode

If this is Windows 10, try Windows + A for the action centre, then Tab to the tablet mode option and Space to toggle it off.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of thomas williams
Sent: 02 November 2016 09:01
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Tablet mode

I have accidentally, switch my computer to tablet mode, how do I switch it back to desktop? Thanks in advance






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Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer voices

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Well, good. Humor and faith are tools of the trade for me; glad to help.

ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of ptusing
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 9:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer voices

Hi,

Ted, you have me laughing per the metaphor of slapping Bobbie up side the
head.
And it gets tiring to pay for the so called JAWS version improvements via
the smas.
Have a fine day.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer voices

The difference between the two is just 4 units--65 to 69. Within the
male-female parameters, most can be made to sound virtually identical by
adjusting the pitch. The one exception is Bobby; that little twit needs to
be slapped upside the head, then left alone. Who in the name of reason
would want to listen to that all day!

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer voices

I finally found them. Probably I'll go back to Reid, but I'm trying Glenn. I
keep mine set pretty fast, so the higher pitched ones sounded like they'd be
harder to understand.
Thanks for getting me there.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria
Campbell
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer voices

Insert J, then to voice adjustment.


Maria Campbell
lucky1@gmail.com

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 10/31/2016 8:18 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
I tried that and got to the same place I have gotten in
other places.
I am trying to get to the choices of like Reid and
Samantha, thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Alan
Robbins
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer
voices

Carolyn

Ctrl + jaws key + s

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer
voices

Maria, which command to you give to get to the voice
choices? I've
done it in the past, but can't remember where it is and
not getting
there tonight, thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of
Maria Campbell
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer
voices

Eloquence rocks! There's nothing better.


Maria Campbell
lucky1@gmail.com

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 10/31/2016 7:16 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
I vote for Eloquence.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Alan
Robbins
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 6:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer
voices
Dennis,

As nice as the new voices are, each time new ones appear
I
give a
listen but after using eloquence for so many years, hard
to give it up
Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of
dennis
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 6:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer
voices
they still seam to pronounce things the same and sound
pritty much the same to me. this is why i use elliquence.
i have
shelly sounding as human as possible.

On 10/31/2016 4:55 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
I still prefer RSD Emily, but that has significant
problems under
jaws 18, particularly involving left quote (U+201c),
right quote
(U+201d) and apostrophe (U+2019 IIRC) characters.

On 10/31/16, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
<kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu> wrote:
Hi,

I know there's a lot of subjectivity in voice
preferences, but I'm
curious if any can describe general aspects of how the
new Vocalizer
voices are different from the ones previously
available.

Thanks in advance, Keith























Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer voices

ptusing <ptusing@...>
 

Hi,

Ted, you have me laughing per the metaphor of slapping Bobbie up side the
head.
And it gets tiring to pay for the so called JAWS version improvements via
the smas.
Have a fine day.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer voices

The difference between the two is just 4 units--65 to 69. Within the
male-female parameters, most can be made to sound virtually identical by
adjusting the pitch. The one exception is Bobby; that little twit needs to
be slapped upside the head, then left alone. Who in the name of reason
would want to listen to that all day!

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer voices

I finally found them. Probably I'll go back to Reid, but I'm trying Glenn. I
keep mine set pretty fast, so the higher pitched ones sounded like they'd be
harder to understand.
Thanks for getting me there.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria
Campbell
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer voices

Insert J, then to voice adjustment.


Maria Campbell
lucky1@gmail.com

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 10/31/2016 8:18 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
I tried that and got to the same place I have gotten in
other places.
I am trying to get to the choices of like Reid and
Samantha, thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Alan
Robbins
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer
voices

Carolyn

Ctrl + jaws key + s

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer
voices

Maria, which command to you give to get to the voice
choices? I've
done it in the past, but can't remember where it is and
not getting
there tonight, thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of
Maria Campbell
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer
voices

Eloquence rocks! There's nothing better.


Maria Campbell
lucky1@gmail.com

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 10/31/2016 7:16 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
I vote for Eloquence.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Alan
Robbins
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 6:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer
voices
Dennis,

As nice as the new voices are, each time new ones appear
I
give a
listen but after using eloquence for so many years, hard
to give it up
Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of
dennis
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 6:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer
voices
they still seam to pronounce things the same and sound
pritty much the same to me. this is why i use elliquence.
i have
shelly sounding as human as possible.

On 10/31/2016 4:55 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
I still prefer RSD Emily, but that has significant
problems under
jaws 18, particularly involving left quote (U+201c),
right quote
(U+201d) and apostrophe (U+2019 IIRC) characters.

On 10/31/16, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
<kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu> wrote:
Hi,

I know there's a lot of subjectivity in voice
preferences, but I'm
curious if any can describe general aspects of how the
new Vocalizer
voices are different from the ones previously
available.

Thanks in advance, Keith























Re: V 18 disappointment

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

My husband did too, but I always avoided anything in DOS
other than the program that I was working, most of the time,
WordPerfect 5.1.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 8:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: V 18 disappointment

Good information. I cut my teeth in DOS, and operated in it
exclusively for about 10 years, so I have no problem with
command lines. Thanks.

Ted

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 6:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: V 18 disappointment

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <ted.lisle@ky.gov> wrote:
To quote the old commercial, "Just ask the man who owns
one." I've
long been curious about Linux, so how accessible is it.

The text-based interface is extremely accessible; the
graphical interfaces (there are several of them) less so,
but they're accessible enough to browse the Web and perform
other desirable tasks. I tend to work mostly in the
text-based environment, which is wonderfully accessible and
efficient to use.

If you like command lines, efficient keyboard interaction
and reliability, text-based Linux has all of them. There are
screen readers for both text mode and for graphical
environments, all freely available with the system.

Note also that under the Windows 10 Anniversary Update
(which I'm still waiting for), you can install and run
text-based Linux programs directly in the Windows
environment (i.e., actual Linux programs, not Windows
versions of the same). I don't know how accessible it is
with JAWS, as I haven't tried it, but it would be a good
starting point for Windows users to learn from before moving
into Linux itself.


Re: Another excel question: how to autofill a column

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Right on, Steve, it works, and the instructions are far better than you usually get in the Microsoft No-Help System. The formula application is especially welcome. I've been a spreadsheet believer since I began using one to enter and process grades around 1990, but my skills have atrophied (they certainly have not increased), as I now use spreadsheets mostly for simple tabular work.

Ted

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Griffiths
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Another excel question: how to autofill a column

Hi Kimber,

The keystrokes Dale give replicate what's in the cell above or to the left. But the autofill feature can create a series, which you'll need to get the list of increasing dates you want.

The way to do it is to fill in at least two consecutive dates, e.g. 11/01/2016 in A1 and 12/02/2016 in A2. Then select all the cells that you want to autofill. In your case that would be from A1 to about A365.

Then you need to go to the Home tab of the ribbon, choose Fill and you'll get a list, choose Series and a dialogue will open. The keytips are Alt, H, F, I, S. Note you have to press F I to get Fill.

On the dialogue, either Tab to the Type radio buttons and arrow to Autofill, or press Alt + F to select it straight away.

Press Enter to complete the process and the dialogue will close. The cells will still be selected, so use an arrow key to unselect them and put focus on a single cell. But you'll find you have 365 cells with dates increasing.

The same technique can be used with formulas, so give it a go and let us know how you get on!

Steve



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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dale Alton
Sent: 03 November 2016 00:43
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Another excel question: how to autofill a column

To fill an area with the same formula: highlight the area to fill down is control+d and to fill right is control+r. So your formula you want to fill the rest of the cells with will be your first cell highlighted. Iff this is clear as mud let me know and I will try to explain better.

Denver Dale


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 5:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Another excel question: how to autofill a column

At least I think that's what I want to do.

I have several columns on my spreadsheet where I want to repeat a certain pattern or formula. For example, I want to replicate the date in the first column beginning with 11/01/2016 and continuing through 04/01/2017. But I don't want to type in all these dates. Googling produces instructions for accomplishing this task with the mouse but nothing with keystrokes.

In another column I have a formula that will change slightly depending on the coordinates of the cells being calculated even though the pattern of the formula stays the same. Is it possible to replicate the formula in the same way as I am doing with the dates?

I hope these questions are clear.

Thanks in advance for the help.


--
Kimberly









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Tel: 0118 9835555
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Email: guidedogs@guidedogs.org.uk


Re: Another excel question: how to autofill a column

Steve Griffiths
 

Hi Kimber,

The keystrokes Dale give replicate what's in the cell above or to the left. But the autofill feature can create a series, which you'll need to get the list of increasing dates you want.

The way to do it is to fill in at least two consecutive dates, e.g. 11/01/2016 in A1 and 12/02/2016 in A2. Then select all the cells that you want to autofill. In your case that would be from A1 to about A365.

Then you need to go to the Home tab of the ribbon, choose Fill and you'll get a list, choose Series and a dialogue will open. The keytips are Alt, H, F, I, S. Note you have to press F I to get Fill.

On the dialogue, either Tab to the Type radio buttons and arrow to Autofill, or press Alt + F to select it straight away.

Press Enter to complete the process and the dialogue will close. The cells will still be selected, so use an arrow key to unselect them and put focus on a single cell. But you'll find you have 365 cells with dates increasing.

The same technique can be used with formulas, so give it a go and let us know how you get on!

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dale Alton
Sent: 03 November 2016 00:43
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Another excel question: how to autofill a column

To fill an area with the same formula: highlight the area to fill down is control+d and to fill right is control+r. So your formula you want to fill the rest of the cells with will be your first cell highlighted. Iff this is clear as mud let me know and I will try to explain better.

Denver Dale


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 5:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Another excel question: how to autofill a column

At least I think that's what I want to do.

I have several columns on my spreadsheet where I want to repeat a certain pattern or formula. For example, I want to replicate the date in the first column beginning with 11/01/2016 and continuing through 04/01/2017. But I don't want to type in all these dates. Googling produces instructions for accomplishing this task with the mouse but nothing with keystrokes.

In another column I have a formula that will change slightly depending on the coordinates of the cells being calculated even though the pattern of the formula stays the same. Is it possible to replicate the formula in the same way as I am doing with the dates?

I hope these questions are clear.

Thanks in advance for the help.


--
Kimberly









The Guide Dogs for the Blind Association
Registered Office: Hillfields, Burghfield Common, Reading, Berkshire, RG7 3YG. A company limited by
guarantee registered in England and Wales (291646) and a charity registered in England and Wales
(209617) and Scotland (SC038979).

Tel: 0118 9835555
Website: www.guidedogs.org.uk
Email: guidedogs@guidedogs.org.uk


Re: V 18 disappointment

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Yes.  Mac has its true believers (cultists), but remember it was an also-ran, a niche product,  until it began to explore other areas—music players, phones, Etc.  Many of us share your ideas and reservations.

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 12:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: V 18 disappointment

 

People tend  to  forget  that Apple markets itself as a luxury brand. You pay a premium not only for the excellent customer service and  hardware/software, but for the logo  as well.

I’m a Windows person and  from time  to time have thought about diving into  the Mac world, but every time I ask or  look around about the voiceover user experience, I get some  feedback variation on how  it’s better than what it was before and that there are still some issues in applications like Numbers/Pages/Keynote, etc. or that the best set up is to have Jaws running on a Windows virtual computer configuration. Which for me at least begs the question, what’s the point  then?

I’m not going to argue that there may indeed be certain aspects and applications that  work better in the Mac world with Voiceover than Jaws or even  NVDA for Windows,  but for an overall computer user experience and especially as a business owner who has to make  use of productivity applications like word processing,  spread sheets, email client, work  with PDF and so on, I don’t’ know  if  I want  to go dropping over $1,200.00 easy on a machine that I can get Windows based for maybe a third of that  price or  probably less.

You can absolutely convince me that as far as mobile, Apple’s iOS is at the top, but I’m just not there with the  screen reader/pc user experience.

Jaws  for  all  its faults, checks  off a lot of boxes for me.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 6:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: V 18 disappointment

 

You don’t have to pay for accessibility, but I would hazard a guess and say that you probably would use a Mac laptop for maybe 5 or 6 years. Let’s say it is 6 years which means you would buy about 3 SMA renewals. If you are using the home version that is maybe $360 or $400 or whatever the Home SMA costs. I would furthermore say that you probably pay at least that much in premium for buying a Mac laptop, they have come down in price, but you still pay more for them than for a good Windows laptop. I just bought a very nice Linovo Flex 3 convertible laptop with touch screen for a bit over $800 Canadian and I am paying maybe an extra $50 to have the RAM upgraded from 8 Gb to 16 Gb. I doubt I could buy a Mac laptop for that price. My last laptop was an Acer which is now 5 years old. It still works quite well and it still gets about 3 hours of battery after all that time. I paid $699 for that one 5 years ago and it seriously was the best laptop I ever owned, it got easily 8 to 9 hours of battery life when it was new. Both my old Acer and this new Linovo are 15 inch laptops and both have a full numeric pad to the right of the keyboard which I like since I just can’t get used to using Jaws with the laptop layout.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lauren Snyder
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 4:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: V 18 disappointment

 

Hi,

 

I was hoping for much more from Jaws 18 especially in regards to Outlook 2016. I can’t see any difference.

 

I think given I have no more SMAs and can’t afford the price of the next release, when my laptop ages some more, I may switch to a Mac as you don’t have to pay for accessibility.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 5:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: V 18 disapointment

 

And if you’re running the home version which I would venture to guess that most  of us are, you’re talking something like $5.00 a month  if you break it down.

I’m not particularly happy with  this upgrade that ate up my last SMA, but Jaws has made a huge difference for me. Especially with the increased multi-lingual support. $5.00 a month is a Pandora subscription or  one less  Starbucks/Jamba  Juice  run a month. Even  the Pro version which I had for  many years before downgrading still was tolerable.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Melissa Stott
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 2:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: V 18 disapointment

 

This is why I would much rather pay every 2 years than to wait several upgrades later.

 

From: Alan Robbins

Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 9:19 AM

Subject: Re: V 18 disapointment

 

Richard,
The only problem with what you are doing is come the day that you have to upgrade jaws and or your operating system, and that day will come, it is going to cost you a fortune


On Nov 1, 2016, at 09:02, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:

I must add to this discussion that I am "still" on JAWS 13 and Windows 7.  Frankly, I have seen nothing really worthwhile in any of the upgrades of either JAWS or Windows since these versions.  Most of the so-called "improvements" in JAWS are nothing more than fixes of things that did not work correctly or the addition of things that should have been there all along; like the mouse announcement thing now (finally) in v. 18, as others have commented.  What a racket indeed : (

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Drew Hunthausen
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: V 18 disapointment

 

I just got the official e-mail announcing Jaws 18. Disappointed! Doesn’t sound like there is anything improved or new that I will use. Won’t upgrade anytime soon!


Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer voices

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Still don't know Russell. Rocko is the J. D. Sumner character about 5 down. He might make an intriguing JAWS Cursor or Message Voice. With heavy reverb, he'd be a natural for a remake of The Ten Commandments.

ted

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 6:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer voices

You have to change the "Voice adjust" combo away from "All contexts"
in order that the person combo be active if eloquence is the selected profile )this is not the case for other synthesizers).

On 11/2/16, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net> wrote:
Most of the time, I cannot find the name choices, but Russell is one
of the choices, where Reid is the first of eight. I can't figure how
to actually get them. Whenever I decide to download 18, I will ask
them at Freedom Scientific what I'm doing wrong. I get to the
different types, like Eloquence and Sappy, speed rate and all of that,
but not the name choices; only a couple of times I have.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 3:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer voices

I've been gone too long, who is/was Russell? I remember Paul, and not
too many other males. Come to think of it, DoubleTalk also had a
Paul, a Glenn, A bob. The Doubletalk changes were invoked through a
Windows DOS box, if memory serves, but not from DOS, per se.

Ted

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer voices

Yeah, that is how Russell sounds - you described that sound perfectly.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gudrun Brunot
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 3:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer voices

DecTalk used to drive me crazy--it sounded like someone talking
overanimatedly while needing to have his tonsils removed... Eloquence
doesn't have that thick, back-in-your-throat, hot-potato sound. I'm
glad we have options, so we can humor our unshakable beliefs... (grin)



Gudrun


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jason White via Groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 5:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer voices

Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@gmail.com> wrote:
Younger people are more used to devices that have natural
sounding
voices, so are more likely to choose such a voice from the
outset.


Some of us who have been using speech synthesis since the 1980s have
the same preference - it isn't restricted to newcomers.

I used DECTALK extensively for many years, which in my judgment is
better than Eloquence. However, speech synthesis has improved since
the days of DECTALK and Eloquence, both in voice quality and in
pronunciation accuracy.
Vocalizer Expressive is a good example of what we now have.

I notice that, for example, if I'm reading through an e-mail message
list, the new version of Vocalizer Expressive interrupts and resumes
much more responsively than the old version did.

I also use braille displays intensively, so I don't rely on the speech
in the way that some people on this list do.



















--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


A function in the script langauge

solteszmiklos@...
 

Hi All,
I want to use the function
SetActiveVoiceProfileByIndex ()
but its running depends of operation system and voiceprofiles. If somebody knows script translation and using - can try my test script below. It usually ends between 120 and 380 cycles.
The error: the voice becames other faster voice or silence.
Why?

Best regards,

Miklos

***



Script Test ()

Var

Int English,

Int Hungarian,

Int I,

Int J,

String S

Let S="2"

If !(InputBox("First voice index?","Test",S)) Then

Return

Endif

Let English=StringToInt(S)-1

Let S="5"

If !(InputBox("Second voice index?","Test",S)) Then

Return

Endif

Let Hungarian=StringToInt(S)-1

Let S="500"

If !(InputBox("How many times?","Test",S)) Then

Return

Endif

Let J=StringToInt(S)

If J==0 Then

SayString("Value error!")

Endif

For I=1 to J

Beep()

SetActiveVoiceProfileByIndex (Hungarian)

If (i/20)*20==I Then

SayInteger(I)

Delay(13,1)

Endif

SetActiveVoiceProfileByIndex (English)

If (I/20)*20==I Then

SayInteger(I)

Delay(15,1)

Endif

Endfor

SetActiveVoiceProfileByIndex (Hungarian)

SayString("It is end of script.")

EndScript