I vote for Eloquence.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On

Robbins
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 6:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer

Dennis,

As nice as the new voices are, each time new ones appear I

listen but after using eloquence for so many years, hard

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On

dennis
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 6:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer

they still seam to pronounce things the same and sound

On 10/31/2016 4:55 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:

I still prefer RSD Emily, but that has significant

jaws 18, particularly involving left quote (U+201c),

(U+201d) and apostrophe (U+2019 IIRC) characters.

On 10/31/16, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.

Hi,

I know there's a lot of subjectivity in voice

curious if any can describe general aspects of how the

voices are different from the ones previously available.

Thanks in advance, Keith

Dennis,

As nice as the new voices are, each time new ones appear I

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On

Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 6:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer

they still seam to pronounce things the same and sound

same to me. this is why i use elliquence. i have shelly

human as possible.


On 10/31/2016 4:55 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:

I still prefer RSD Emily, but that has significant

18, particularly involving left quote (U+201c), right

and apostrophe (U+2019 IIRC) characters.

On 10/31/16, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.

Hi,

I know there's a lot of subjectivity in voice

if any can describe general aspects of how the new

different from the ones previously available.

Thanks in advance, Keith

I vote for Eloquence.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On

Robbins
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 6:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer

Dennis,

As nice as the new voices are, each time new ones appear I

listen but after using eloquence for so many years, hard

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On

dennis
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 6:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer

they still seam to pronounce things the same and sound

On 10/31/2016 4:55 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:

I still prefer RSD Emily, but that has significant

jaws 18, particularly involving left quote (U+201c),

(U+201d) and apostrophe (U+2019 IIRC) characters.

On 10/31/16, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.

Hi,

I know there's a lot of subjectivity in voice

curious if any can describe general aspects of how the

voices are different from the ones previously available.

Thanks in advance, Keith

I vote for Eloquence.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 6:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer voices

Dennis,

As nice as the new voices are, each time new ones appear I give a listen but after using eloquence for so many years, hard to give it up

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 6:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer voices

they still seam to pronounce things the same and sound pritty much the same to me. this is why i use elliquence. i have shelly sounding as human as possible.


On 10/31/2016 4:55 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:

I still prefer RSD Emily, but that has significant problems under jaws
18, particularly involving left quote (U+201c), right quote (U+201d)
and apostrophe (U+2019 IIRC) characters.

On 10/31/16, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. <kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu> wrote:

Hi,

I know there's a lot of subjectivity in voice preferences, but I'm
curious if any can describe general aspects of how the new Vocalizer
voices are different from the ones previously available.

Thanks in advance, Keith

I still prefer RSD Emily, but that has significant problems under jaws
18, particularly involving left quote (U+201c), right quote (U+201d)
and apostrophe (U+2019 IIRC) characters.

On 10/31/16, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. <kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu> wrote:

Hi,

I know there's a lot of subjectivity in voice preferences, but I'm
curious if any can describe general aspects of how the new Vocalizer
voices are different from the ones previously available.

Thanks in advance, Keith

Dennis,

As nice as the new voices are, each time new ones appear I give a listen but after using eloquence for so many years, hard to give it up

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 6:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Old vocalizer voices versus new vocalizer voices

they still seam to pronounce things the same and sound pritty much the
same to me. this is why i use elliquence. i have shelly sounding as
human as possible.


On 10/31/2016 4:55 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:

I still prefer RSD Emily, but that has significant problems under jaws
18, particularly involving left quote (U+201c), right quote (U+201d)
and apostrophe (U+2019 IIRC) characters.

On 10/31/16, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. <kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu> wrote:

Hi,

I know there's a lot of subjectivity in voice preferences, but I'm curious
if any can describe general aspects of how the new Vocalizer voices are
different from the ones previously available.

Thanks in advance, Keith

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 31 October 2016 22:06
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I am not a robot check boxes on websites

Paul,

          I would not presume that MS-Edge is accessible in its entirety via JAWS until VFO states that it is and under what releases.

          It was just a fluke this morning that I brought up the confirmation page in Edge since I had it up for something else as well. I fired up JAWS because it had been mentioned. For my blind and visually impaired clients I use IE, Firefox, and Chrome alone or in combination as the client prefers.  Edge is still too much of a work in progress at the moment from my perspective.

--
Brian

A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James

I still prefer RSD Emily, but that has significant problems under jaws
18, particularly involving left quote (U+201c), right quote (U+201d)
and apostrophe (U+2019 IIRC) characters.

On 10/31/16, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. <kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu> wrote:

Hi,

I know there's a lot of subjectivity in voice preferences, but I'm curious
if any can describe general aspects of how the new Vocalizer voices are
different from the ones previously available.

Thanks in advance, Keith

I still prefer RSD Emily, but that has significant problems under jaws
18, particularly involving left quote (U+201c), right quote (U+201d)
and apostrophe (U+2019 IIRC) characters.

On 10/31/16, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. <kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu> wrote:

Hi,

I know there's a lot of subjectivity in voice preferences, but I'm curious
if any can describe general aspects of how the new Vocalizer voices are
different from the ones previously available.

Thanks in advance, Keith

Hi,

I know there's a lot of subjectivity in voice preferences, but I'm curious
if any can describe general aspects of how the new Vocalizer voices are
different from the ones previously available.

Thanks in advance, Keith

Like a lot of new medications that come out - actually, they're me toos.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber
Gardner
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: V 18 disapointment

Same here, though it feels like something of a racket given the poor quality
of some releases that seem like no more than bug fixes dressed up as new
versions.

On 10/31/16, Marianne Denning <marianne@denningweb.com> wrote:

The problem is that if you don’t upgrade and keep purchasing the SMA
for your JAWS you will pay an outrageous price to upgrade in the
future. I have always purchased the SMAs and kept my JAWS current. I
will probably wait for
1 release to come out before I upgrade but I will definitely upgrade.



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
stintonjoe@btinternet.com
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 12:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: V 18 disapointment



well i have only just brought jaws 17, so i wont be upgrading !!!





From: Drew Hunthausen <mailto:dhunthausen@gmail.com>

Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 3:23 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: V 18 disapointment



I just got the official e-mail announcing Jaws 18. Disappointed!
Doesn’t sound like there is anything improved or new that I will use.
Won’t upgrade anytime soon!

--
Kimberly

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 31 October 2016 14:04
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I am not a robot check boxes on websites

Oops, missed the comment about the confirmation page.  I, however, am not having any problem with it in MS-Edge with JAWS 17.  It reads the "I am not a robot" checkbox unchecked and I can check/uncheck that checkbox with spacebar.
--
Brian

A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James

The problem is that if you don’t upgrade and keep purchasing the SMA
for your JAWS you will pay an outrageous price to upgrade in the
future. I have always purchased the SMAs and kept my JAWS current. I
will probably wait for
1 release to come out before I upgrade but I will definitely upgrade.



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
stintonjoe@btinternet.com
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 12:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: V 18 disapointment



well i have only just brought jaws 17, so i wont be upgrading !!!





From: Drew Hunthausen <mailto:dhunthausen@gmail.com>

Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 3:23 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: V 18 disapointment



I just got the official e-mail announcing Jaws 18. Disappointed!
Doesn’t sound like there is anything improved or new that I will use.
Won’t upgrade anytime soon!

I would concur with this. I never had to submit one bug report

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 11:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Vocalizer voices for JAWS 18

Just my opinion, but I find Jaws 18 runs perfectly stabil and well and it did so even during the beta cycle.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Melissa Stott
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 10:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Vocalizer voices for JAWS 18

You may want to contact freedom scientific about this issue. This is exactly why I will not install until I receive the desk. I like to wait for a few more updates.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 29, 2016, at 11:55 AM, Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi!

And I have the following problem: I've installed the compact package for german language but I'm sure it could happen with whatever package. The program gave me an announcement for successful installation but I can't find the synthesizer although I've restarted jaws after the installation. What can I to do? Thanks in advance.

Georgi


На 29.10.2016 г. в 04:04 ч., Jason White via Groups.io написа:

brian albriton <cocanut50@ca.rr.com> wrote:

As to why the high quality voices you downloaded didn't show up, I
don't know. Perhaps someone else can give you a pointer.

Have a look under Programs and Features, and check the list of
installed programs. Each high-quality voice should be shown as
installed (they're under Vocalizer Expressive in the list of
installed programs). I haven't installed the compact voices, so I don't know how they're listed.

If voices don't appear under Programs and Features, then they
haven't been installed properly and I would suggest running the MSI
installation package again.

I have to agree. I usually wait unless there is some new feature I really need. I just upgraded to JAWS version 17. Unfortunately, we moved to Office 2013 from Office 2010. That was definitely a step backwards. What a kluge. So, my unhappiness with JAWS 17 may stem, in part, from the miserable coding in Office 2013.
The only thing I see in JAWS 17 is that it messed up keyboard manager, made it nearly impossible to move settings and custom scripts without a ton of tedious work, and added some feature pertaining to the structure of Webpages -- a feature I have totally shut down.
JAWS promises to bring back and rename the old merge utility.
That's good, but isn't it really a bug fix? I may try JAWS 18, but just to see if it fixed the track change problems, as promised.
If it did not, I'm definitely waiting



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 10:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: V 18 disapointment

Same here, though it feels like something of a racket given the poor quality of some releases that seem like no more than bug fixes dressed up as new versions.

On 10/31/16, Marianne Denning <marianne@denningweb.com> wrote:

The problem is that if you don’t upgrade and keep purchasing the SMA
for your JAWS you will pay an outrageous price to upgrade in the
future. I have always purchased the SMAs and kept my JAWS current. I
will probably wait for
1 release to come out before I upgrade but I will definitely upgrade.



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
stintonjoe@btinternet.com
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 12:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: V 18 disapointment



well i have only just brought jaws 17, so i wont be upgrading !!!





From: Drew Hunthausen <mailto:dhunthausen@gmail.com>

Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 3:23 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: V 18 disapointment



I just got the official e-mail announcing Jaws 18. Disappointed!
Doesn’t sound like there is anything improved or new that I will use.
Won’t upgrade anytime soon!

--
Kimberly




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