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Re: Firefox49

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Mario. This doesn't work for me. I must choose "Never Check For Updates before I see an Update button, plus I must uncheck the box which has the Mozilla Maintenance Service run in the background.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


in Firefox, press alt for the menu bar, then t for the tools menu, then
o for the options settings.
next press control+home to move to the top of the page and down arrow
until JAWS says list box and press the space bar.
down arrow to the advanced category and press the tab key twice.
right or left arrow to the update tab and press the tab key.
up or down arrow to choose Check for updates, but let me choose whether
to install them radio button checked
press control+w or alt+f4.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Sep 28, 2016 2:36 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox49

You don't have it set to Never Check For Updates on the Updates page of
Options, or it would have a Check For Updates button.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


Thanks, Bill, I did this and there is no update button, when I used
Convenient OCR on the About screen it came out a bit jumbled, but it
seemed to say somewhere that Firefox was up to date. However, when I use
Jaws Key+Control+V Jaws tells me my version is 47.0.1 and when I just
went to the Firefox download page and downloaded the installer it has a
file name of " Firefox Setup Stub 49.0.1".
Oh well, stranger things have happened and I'll just install that latest
version from the installer.

Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Hi, Sieghard. You don't need to go anywhere to force an update check.
Simply press ALT plus the letter H to reach the help menu. Following
this, press the letter A to reach the "About" dialog. Once this page
loads, if your updates are set to "Never Check for Updates", you will
see a Check for Updates button. It will already be focused on this
button. Just press the Space Bar to start a check for updates. Then you
will either get a notice that you can update, or you will hear silence.
If you hear silence, you already have the latest version of Firefox. If
you see an Update button, press the Space Bar again. Once the update has
downloaded, you will get a notice to restart Firefox. Press the Space
Bar again, and Firefox will reload with the latest updated version.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


I have had occasions when I opened Firefox and it told me it was doing
and update and would restart. Anyhow, if it can be set to manual, where
do I go to force a check for updates?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Firefox will only update itself if that option is checked, and if the
Firefox Maintenance Service is running in the background.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


I'm on version 47 something and I see now option to check for updates. I
thought Firefox is supposed to update itself, but when I open it and let it
sit there nothing happens.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason
White via Groups.io
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:
well, I can install an earlier version but it eventually would want to
upgrade to the current version.


And you would make your computer vulnerable to security issues fixed in
more
recent versions, too. For your own protection, just don't do that.










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Re: Start/Stop Narrator with a single key combination?

Tim Ford
 

The Windows key and u command takes you to the control panel ease of access center, but you then need to tab to the start narrator button, or press alt and the letter n and it will go to and start narrator. A bit cumbersome, hence my interest in a direct key combination, which apparently does not exist for us old Windows 7 folks.

Tim Ford

-----Original Message-----
From: Les Kriegler
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 3:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Start/Stop Narrator with a single key combination?

Hi Sieghard,

In Windows 7, Windows-U should also launch Narrator.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 3:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Start/Stop Narrator with a single key combination?

As far as I know this combination only works with Windows 10 Anniversary
Upgrade.

If you are running Windows 7 you can still get Narrator going, however, just
type Windows Key+R for the Run command and then type Narrator followed by
enter.





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Start/Stop Narrator with a single key combination?



HI All,



I heard recently that Windows Narrator can be started and stopped by the
combination of windows key and enter. Maybe I heard that wrong, because
that key combination instead selects whatever Desktop icon happens to have
focus. Does anyone know what key combination does this start/stop of
Narrator? I am running Windows 7.



Tim Ford


Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

Mario
 

the directions would be handy to have. I would like a copy too, unless
you decide to post it.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. [mailto:kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, Sep 28, 2016 6:06 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

Same here. Thanks. Keith



*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Drew Hunthausen
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 28, 2016 5:04 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view



I would love to get instructions on how to do this as it would really
help for groups like this!! please send instructions. thanks



*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *paul lemm
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:58 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view



Hi,



I use conversation view all the time in outlook 2010, I find it really
helpful especially as I belong to a few groups like this so it’s nice to
have all my emails grouped together



There are a few settings you need to tweak to get it to work exactly
how you want, currently mine is set up so in outlook for example
your message appears like below in outlook for me.



Conversation: jaws and conversation view , 5 items, 2 unread,



Then I just click right arrow to expand the conversation and use up and
down to scroll through the messages in this list . if that’s what
you’re trying to do let me know and I’ll send you instructions on how
to do this.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Mike Cormier
*Sent:* 28 September 2016 18:54
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view



Hi everyone,





Just wondering if anyone has had any luck at using JAWS with Outlook
using the conversation view.



I am trying to compare it with the native iOS 10 app where IOS will
advise how many emails are in the conversation and then will only stay
within the borders of that conversation.



Seems like when I turn this option on in Outlook, it does seem to advise
me that there is more than one email, but not a total number is spoken.
When I open this conversation and arrow down, then it just moves right
out of this list and JAWS does not give me any indication that this was
done.



Any help or input on this subject would be appreciated. I looked around
the web on this but did not find any info at all.



Mike


Re: New member

Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

Hi, this is a group for discussing jaws. So any questions related to that screen reader a lot be asked here. And welcome

On Sep 28, 2016, at 4:43 PM, Naima Leigh <nleigh2016@...> wrote:

Hi I’m new and need help learning the ropes of this group.
 
Naima


Re: Start/Stop Narrator with a single key combination?

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Hi Sieghard,

In Windows 7, Windows-U should also launch Narrator.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 3:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Start/Stop Narrator with a single key combination?

As far as I know this combination only works with Windows 10 Anniversary
Upgrade.

If you are running Windows 7 you can still get Narrator going, however, just
type Windows Key+R for the Run command and then type Narrator followed by
enter.





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Start/Stop Narrator with a single key combination?



HI All,



I heard recently that Windows Narrator can be started and stopped by the
combination of windows key and enter. Maybe I heard that wrong, because
that key combination instead selects whatever Desktop icon happens to have
focus. Does anyone know what key combination does this start/stop of
Narrator? I am running Windows 7.



Tim Ford


New member

Naima Leigh <nleigh2016@...>
 

Hi I’m new and need help learning the ropes of this group.

 

Naima


Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

Same here. Thanks. Keith

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Drew Hunthausen
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 5:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

 

I would love to get instructions on how to do this as it would really help for groups like this!! please send instructions. thanks

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of paul lemm
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

 

Hi,

 

I use conversation view all the time in outlook 2010, I find it really helpful especially as I belong to a few groups like this so it’s nice to have all my emails grouped together

 

There are a few settings you need to tweak to get it to work exactly how  you want, currently  mine is set up  so in outlook  for example your message appears like below in outlook for me.

 

Conversation: jaws and conversation view , 5 items, 2 unread,

 

Then I just click right arrow to expand the conversation  and use up and down to scroll through the messages in this list .  if that’s what you’re trying to do let me know and I’ll send you instructions  on how to do this.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Cormier
Sent: 28 September 2016 18:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

 

Hi everyone,

 

 

Just wondering if anyone has had any luck at using JAWS with Outlook using the conversation view.

 

I am trying to compare it with the native iOS 10 app where IOS will advise how many emails are in the conversation and then will only stay within the borders of that conversation.

 

Seems like when I turn this option on in Outlook, it does seem to advise me that there is more than one email, but not a total number is spoken.  When I open this conversation and arrow down, then it just moves right out of this list and JAWS does not give me any indication that this was done.

 

Any help or input on this subject would be appreciated.  I looked around the web on this but did not find any info at all.

 

Mike

 


Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

Drew Hunthausen
 

I would love to get instructions on how to do this as it would really help for groups like this!! please send instructions. thanks

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of paul lemm
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

 

Hi,

 

I use conversation view all the time in outlook 2010, I find it really helpful especially as I belong to a few groups like this so it’s nice to have all my emails grouped together

 

There are a few settings you need to tweak to get it to work exactly how  you want, currently  mine is set up  so in outlook  for example your message appears like below in outlook for me.

 

Conversation: jaws and conversation view , 5 items, 2 unread,

 

Then I just click right arrow to expand the conversation  and use up and down to scroll through the messages in this list .  if that’s what you’re trying to do let me know and I’ll send you instructions  on how to do this.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Cormier
Sent: 28 September 2016 18:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

 

Hi everyone,

 

 

Just wondering if anyone has had any luck at using JAWS with Outlook using the conversation view.

 

I am trying to compare it with the native iOS 10 app where IOS will advise how many emails are in the conversation and then will only stay within the borders of that conversation.

 

Seems like when I turn this option on in Outlook, it does seem to advise me that there is more than one email, but not a total number is spoken.  When I open this conversation and arrow down, then it just moves right out of this list and JAWS does not give me any indication that this was done.

 

Any help or input on this subject would be appreciated.  I looked around the web on this but did not find any info at all.

 

Mike

 


Re: Start/Stop Narrator with a single key combination?

Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

On Sep 28, 2016, at 2:47 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

As far as I know this combination only works with Windows 10 Anniversary Upgrade.
If you are running Windows 7 you can still get Narrator going, however, just type Windows Key+R for the Run command and then type Narrator followed by enter.
 
 
From: main@jfw.groups.io[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Start/Stop Narrator with a single key combination?
 
HI All,
 
I heard recently that Windows Narrator can be started and stopped by the combination of windows key and enter.  Maybe I heard that wrong, because that key combination instead selects whatever Desktop icon happens to have focus.  Does anyone know what key combination does this start/stop of Narrator?  I am running Windows 7.
 
Tim Ford
 



Re: Firefox49

Mario
 

in Firefox, press alt for the menu bar, then t for the tools menu, then
o for the options settings.
next press control+home to move to the top of the page and down arrow
until JAWS says list box and press the space bar.
down arrow to the advanced category and press the tab key twice.
right or left arrow to the update tab and press the tab key.
up or down arrow to choose Check for updates, but let me choose whether
to install them radio button checked
press control+w or alt+f4.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Sep 28, 2016 2:36 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox49

You don't have it set to Never Check For Updates on the Updates page of
Options, or it would have a Check For Updates button.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


Thanks, Bill, I did this and there is no update button, when I used
Convenient OCR on the About screen it came out a bit jumbled, but it
seemed to say somewhere that Firefox was up to date. However, when I use
Jaws Key+Control+V Jaws tells me my version is 47.0.1 and when I just
went to the Firefox download page and downloaded the installer it has a
file name of " Firefox Setup Stub 49.0.1".
Oh well, stranger things have happened and I'll just install that latest
version from the installer.

Regards,
Sieghard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Hi, Sieghard. You don't need to go anywhere to force an update check.
Simply press ALT plus the letter H to reach the help menu. Following
this, press the letter A to reach the "About" dialog. Once this page
loads, if your updates are set to "Never Check for Updates", you will
see a Check for Updates button. It will already be focused on this
button. Just press the Space Bar to start a check for updates. Then you
will either get a notice that you can update, or you will hear silence.
If you hear silence, you already have the latest version of Firefox. If
you see an Update button, press the Space Bar again. Once the update has
downloaded, you will get a notice to restart Firefox. Press the Space
Bar again, and Firefox will reload with the latest updated version.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


I have had occasions when I opened Firefox and it told me it was doing
and update and would restart. Anyhow, if it can be set to manual, where
do I go to force a check for updates?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Firefox will only update itself if that option is checked, and if the
Firefox Maintenance Service is running in the background.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox49


I'm on version 47 something and I see now option to check for updates. I
thought Firefox is supposed to update itself, but when I open it and let it
sit there nothing happens.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason
White via Groups.io
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox49

Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:
well, I can install an earlier version but it eventually would want to
upgrade to the current version.


And you would make your computer vulnerable to security issues fixed in
more
recent versions, too. For your own protection, just don't do that.










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Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

That is the way it works for me too with the JAWS-Windows
F4, it goes off and comnes back. I believe that Freedom
Scientific, or whatever it is called now, receives a message
that it happened.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 3:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to
use your computer?

Jaws Key+Windows+F4 will dump Jaws and restart it. It is
meant as a last resort when Jaws hangs or crashes in which
case this key combination usually brings it back.





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to
use your computer?



You can skip the Yes question by using Jaws+Windows+F4.
Jaws will shut down immediately.



Tony





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to
use your computer?



Unloading Jaws does not require you to set up a shortcut
key, Jaws Key+F4 will do this, it is a built-in shortcut key
and if you press it Jaws will say the following:



Unloading JAWS

Quit JAWS dialog

Are you sure you want to quit JAWS? Press Enter to quit now,
or Escape to cancel.

OK



At this point focus is on the OK button, so just press enter
and Jaws will go away, if you don't want it to do this press
Escape.

As for bringing Jaws back as other pointed out you'll have
to add a shortcut key combination like Control+Shift+J to
the Jaws shortcut on the desktop.

As long as the Jaws shortcut is on your desktop you can also
press Windows+M a couple of times to make sure all Windows
are minimized and you are on the desktop, then type "J" and
as long as Jaws is the only shortcut that starts with J
focus will now be on Jaws and pressing enter will start it.

A final method is to use Windows+R to bring up the Run
dialogue, type "Jaws" followed by your version and press
enter. For example, if you have Jaws 17 then type "Jaws17"
without space and press enter.





Regards,

Sieghard



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to
use your computer?



That's what I thought. So how can I set up my computer, via
short cut keystrokes, to completely shut off JAWS, and still
easily bring it back up once said sightling is finished?



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to
use your computer?



Hi, Mike. If you shut off only the voicing of JAWS, it will
still interfere with typing text into form fields. Sighted
users won't be able to type into edit fields without
activating them in JAWS, unless JAWS is completely unloaded.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
<mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike Ulrich <mailto:mulrich@centurylink.net>

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 8:08 AM

Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings
want to use your computer?



Thanks! Do you think if I go that route and shut off
just the voicing, it won't interfere with a sightling's
normal navigation of whatever program they're working with?
As in maneuvering the mouse ETC?



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings
want to use your computer?



Hello Michael,


If all you want to do is silence JAWS, you can do
this without killing JAWS.

You will have to use the layered command.


Use the numpad insert key, this is the JAWS modifier
key.

JAWS plus space bar, then press "s" to toggle the
synthesizer on or off.

Peter T

On 2016-09-28 7:35 AM, Delaunay Christophe wrote:

Hi Michael,



First, check whether the Jaws shortcut you
should have on your desktop has a shortcut key or not. In
order to do so, select it and press <alt+enter> to display
its properties.



Then, tab twice. You should hear "Shortcut
key (hotkey):" and something more. If this additional
information is simply <none>, type a key on your keyboard,
(the letter j for instance). Then, tab away from this item,
and shift+tab back to it. You should now hear "Shortcut key
(hotkey): ctrl+alt+j". "j" could be replaced with the letter
you typed.



If it's ok, tab until the Ok button and
press <enter>.



In order to check if it works, try pressing
it. Jaws cannot be launched twice but it should inform you
about such an attempt, for instance, by placing you into the
Jaws window or opening the Jaws context menu, (depends on
whether you choose to minimize jaws in the taskbar on in the
notification area).



Now, if it works, you can confidently type
<jawskey+f4> in order to shut jaws down. After your sighted
friend gives you back your computer, simply type the hotkey
you previously defined and jaws should restart soon.



HTH, Have a nice day. ChD



From: main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: How to shut off JAWS when
sightlings want to use your computer?



So every now and then one of my sighted
friends comes over and wants to check something out on the
internet. But she's always complaining about my eloquence's
voice program running with JAWS.

So what's the fastest and best way to shut
JAWS down, and the fastest and best way to bring it back up,
after she's done?



I know way back when, on a different
computer, I had someone put on some short cut keys to
disable JAWS, once disabled you could just hit those short
cut keys again, and JAWS would come back up.



So how do I go about setting this up again
on my current laptop?

Although, it's kind of funny listening to a
sightling freak out; when having to listen to eloquence
going a thousand miles an hour while working on your
computer!



Michael D. Ulrich

Just an ordinary average blind guy!

"Providing Insight for Blindness"

Florida Council of the Blind

Fundraising Committee Member

Home Phone: 239-540-7431

Cell phone: 239-565-5845

Email: mulrich@centurylink.net
<mailto:mulrich@centurylink.net>







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Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

Tony
 

All at once, unfortunately.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Elaine Young
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

This is good info- I assume I hit the three keys one at time, sure can't reach them all at once with only two hands! Right?

 

Elaine

 

On 9/28/2016 3:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Jaws Key+Windows+F4 will dump Jaws and restart it. It is meant as a last resort when Jaws hangs or crashes in which case this key combination usually brings it back.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

You can skip the Yes question by using Jaws+Windows+F4.  Jaws will shut down immediately.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

Unloading Jaws does not require you to set up a shortcut key, Jaws Key+F4 will do this, it is a built-in shortcut key and if you press it Jaws will say the following:

 

Unloading JAWS

Quit JAWS dialog

Are you sure you want to quit JAWS? Press Enter to quit now, or Escape to cancel.

OK

 

At this point focus is on the OK button, so just press enter and Jaws will go away, if you don't want it to do this press Escape.

As for bringing Jaws back as other pointed out you'll have to add a shortcut key combination like Control+Shift+J to the Jaws shortcut on the desktop.

As long as the Jaws shortcut is on your desktop you can also press Windows+M a couple of times to make sure all Windows are minimized and you are on the desktop, then type "J" and as long as Jaws is the only shortcut that starts with J focus will now be on Jaws and pressing enter will start it.

A final method is to use Windows+R to bring up the Run dialogue, type "Jaws" followed by your version and press enter. For example, if you have Jaws 17 then type "Jaws17" without space and press enter.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

That’s what I thought. So how can I set up my computer, via short cut keystrokes, to completely shut off JAWS, and still easily bring it back up once said sightling is finished?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

Hi, Mike. If you shut off only the voicing of JAWS, it will still interfere with typing text into form fields. Sighted users won't be able to type into edit fields without activating them in JAWS, unless JAWS is completely unloaded.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 8:08 AM

Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

Thanks! Do you think if I go that route and shut off just the voicing, it won’t interfere with a sightling’s normal navigation of whatever program they’re working with? As in maneuvering the mouse ETC?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

Hello Michael,


If all you want to do is silence JAWS, you can do this without killing JAWS.

You will have to use the layered command.


Use the numpad insert key, this is the JAWS modifier key.

  JAWS plus space bar, then press "s" to toggle the synthesizer on or off.

Peter T

On 2016-09-28 7:35 AM, Delaunay Christophe wrote:

Hi Michael,

 

First, check whether the Jaws shortcut you should have on your desktop has a shortcut key or not. In order to do so, select it and press <alt+enter> to display its properties.

 

Then, tab twice. You should hear “Shortcut key (hotkey):” and something more. If this additional information is simply <none>, type a key on your keyboard, (the letter j for instance). Then, tab away from this item, and shift+tab back to it. You should now hear “Shortcut key (hotkey): ctrl+alt+j”. “j” could be replaced with the letter you typed.

 

If it’s ok, tab until the Ok button and press <enter>.

 

In order to check if it works, try pressing it. Jaws cannot be launched twice but it should inform you about such an attempt, for instance, by placing you into the Jaws window or opening the Jaws context menu, (depends on whether you choose to minimize jaws in the taskbar on in the notification area).

 

Now, if it works, you can confidently type <jawskey+f4> in order to shut jaws down. After your sighted friend gives you back your computer, simply type the hotkey you previously defined and jaws should restart soon.

 

HTH, Have a nice day. ChD

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

So every now and then one of my sighted friends comes over and wants to check something out on the internet. But she’s always complaining about my eloquence’s voice program running with JAWS.

So what’s the fastest and best way to shut JAWS down, and the fastest and best way to bring it back up, after she’s done?

 

I know way back when, on a different computer, I had someone put on some  short cut keys to disable JAWS, once disabled you could just hit those short cut keys again, and JAWS would come back up.

 

So how do I go about setting this up again on my current laptop?

Although, it’s kind of funny listening to a sightling freak out; when having to listen to eloquence going a thousand miles an hour while working on your computer!

 

Michael D. Ulrich

Just an ordinary average blind guy!

“Providing Insight for Blindness”

Florida Council of the Blind

Fundraising Committee Member

Home Phone: 239-540-7431

Cell phone: 239-565-5845

Email: mulrich@...

 

 



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Re: Start/Stop Narrator with a single key combination?

Hank & Patty <hank1patty@...>
 

 
Hello,
 
I use Windows 8.1 & I just tried it turning narrator on & off with the Windows key & the Enter key & yes, this key combination works on Windows 8.1.
 
 
 
 
All the best,
 
Hank
 
 

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Start/Stop Narrator with a single key combination?
 

As far as I know this combination only works with Windows 10 Anniversary Upgrade.

If you are running Windows 7 you can still get Narrator going, however, just type Windows Key+R for the Run command and then type Narrator followed by enter.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Start/Stop Narrator with a single key combination?

 

HI All,

 

I heard recently that Windows Narrator can be started and stopped by the combination of windows key and enter.  Maybe I heard that wrong, because that key combination instead selects whatever Desktop icon happens to have focus.  Does anyone know what key combination does this start/stop of Narrator?  I am running Windows 7.

 

Tim Ford

 


Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

Elaine Young <hidden_spring@...>
 

This is good info- I assume I hit the three keys one at time, sure can't reach them all at once with only two hands! Right?


Elaine


On 9/28/2016 3:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Jaws Key+Windows+F4 will dump Jaws and restart it. It is meant as a last resort when Jaws hangs or crashes in which case this key combination usually brings it back.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

You can skip the Yes question by using Jaws+Windows+F4.  Jaws will shut down immediately.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

Unloading Jaws does not require you to set up a shortcut key, Jaws Key+F4 will do this, it is a built-in shortcut key and if you press it Jaws will say the following:

 

Unloading JAWS

Quit JAWS dialog

Are you sure you want to quit JAWS? Press Enter to quit now, or Escape to cancel.

OK

 

At this point focus is on the OK button, so just press enter and Jaws will go away, if you don't want it to do this press Escape.

As for bringing Jaws back as other pointed out you'll have to add a shortcut key combination like Control+Shift+J to the Jaws shortcut on the desktop.

As long as the Jaws shortcut is on your desktop you can also press Windows+M a couple of times to make sure all Windows are minimized and you are on the desktop, then type "J" and as long as Jaws is the only shortcut that starts with J focus will now be on Jaws and pressing enter will start it.

A final method is to use Windows+R to bring up the Run dialogue, type "Jaws" followed by your version and press enter. For example, if you have Jaws 17 then type "Jaws17" without space and press enter.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

That’s what I thought. So how can I set up my computer, via short cut keystrokes, to completely shut off JAWS, and still easily bring it back up once said sightling is finished?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

Hi, Mike. If you shut off only the voicing of JAWS, it will still interfere with typing text into form fields. Sighted users won't be able to type into edit fields without activating them in JAWS, unless JAWS is completely unloaded.

Bill White billwhite92701@...

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike Ulrich

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 8:08 AM

Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

Thanks! Do you think if I go that route and shut off just the voicing, it won’t interfere with a sightling’s normal navigation of whatever program they’re working with? As in maneuvering the mouse ETC?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

Hello Michael,


If all you want to do is silence JAWS, you can do this without killing JAWS.

You will have to use the layered command.


Use the numpad insert key, this is the JAWS modifier key.

  JAWS plus space bar, then press "s" to toggle the synthesizer on or off.

Peter T

On 2016-09-28 7:35 AM, Delaunay Christophe wrote:

Hi Michael,

 

First, check whether the Jaws shortcut you should have on your desktop has a shortcut key or not. In order to do so, select it and press <alt+enter> to display its properties.

 

Then, tab twice. You should hear “Shortcut key (hotkey):” and something more. If this additional information is simply <none>, type a key on your keyboard, (the letter j for instance). Then, tab away from this item, and shift+tab back to it. You should now hear “Shortcut key (hotkey): ctrl+alt+j”. “j” could be replaced with the letter you typed.

 

If it’s ok, tab until the Ok button and press <enter>.

 

In order to check if it works, try pressing it. Jaws cannot be launched twice but it should inform you about such an attempt, for instance, by placing you into the Jaws window or opening the Jaws context menu, (depends on whether you choose to minimize jaws in the taskbar on in the notification area).

 

Now, if it works, you can confidently type <jawskey+f4> in order to shut jaws down. After your sighted friend gives you back your computer, simply type the hotkey you previously defined and jaws should restart soon.

 

HTH, Have a nice day. ChD

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

So every now and then one of my sighted friends comes over and wants to check something out on the internet. But she’s always complaining about my eloquence’s voice program running with JAWS.

So what’s the fastest and best way to shut JAWS down, and the fastest and best way to bring it back up, after she’s done?

 

I know way back when, on a different computer, I had someone put on some  short cut keys to disable JAWS, once disabled you could just hit those short cut keys again, and JAWS would come back up.

 

So how do I go about setting this up again on my current laptop?

Although, it’s kind of funny listening to a sightling freak out; when having to listen to eloquence going a thousand miles an hour while working on your computer!

 

Michael D. Ulrich

Just an ordinary average blind guy!

“Providing Insight for Blindness”

Florida Council of the Blind

Fundraising Committee Member

Home Phone: 239-540-7431

Cell phone: 239-565-5845

Email: mulrich@...

 

 



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Re: Start/Stop Narrator with a single key combination?

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

As far as I know this combination only works with Windows 10 Anniversary Upgrade.

If you are running Windows 7 you can still get Narrator going, however, just type Windows Key+R for the Run command and then type Narrator followed by enter.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Start/Stop Narrator with a single key combination?

 

HI All,

 

I heard recently that Windows Narrator can be started and stopped by the combination of windows key and enter.  Maybe I heard that wrong, because that key combination instead selects whatever Desktop icon happens to have focus.  Does anyone know what key combination does this start/stop of Narrator?  I am running Windows 7.

 

Tim Ford

 


Re: Start/Stop Narrator with a single key combination?

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

Hi Tim,

 

I’m not entirely sure, but I believe the keystroke you mentioned became effective in Windows 8.

 

Keith

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Start/Stop Narrator with a single key combination?

 

HI All,

 

I heard recently that Windows Narrator can be started and stopped by the combination of windows key and enter.  Maybe I heard that wrong, because that key combination instead selects whatever Desktop icon happens to have focus.  Does anyone know what key combination does this start/stop of Narrator?  I am running Windows 7.

 

Tim Ford

 


Start/Stop Narrator with a single key combination?

Tim Ford
 

HI All,
 
I heard recently that Windows Narrator can be started and stopped by the combination of windows key and enter.  Maybe I heard that wrong, because that key combination instead selects whatever Desktop icon happens to have focus.  Does anyone know what key combination does this start/stop of Narrator?  I am running Windows 7.
 
Tim Ford
 


Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

My properties did not indicate that I had a hot key to start
JAWS, but Control-Alt-J does it.


Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to
use your computer?

Unloading Jaws does not require you to set up a shortcut
key, Jaws Key+F4 will do this, it is a built-in shortcut key
and if you press it Jaws will say the following:



Unloading JAWS

Quit JAWS dialog

Are you sure you want to quit JAWS? Press Enter to quit now,
or Escape to cancel.

OK



At this point focus is on the OK button, so just press enter
and Jaws will go away, if you don't want it to do this press
Escape.

As for bringing Jaws back as other pointed out you'll have
to add a shortcut key combination like Control+Shift+J to
the Jaws shortcut on the desktop.

As long as the Jaws shortcut is on your desktop you can also
press Windows+M a couple of times to make sure all Windows
are minimized and you are on the desktop, then type "J" and
as long as Jaws is the only shortcut that starts with J
focus will now be on Jaws and pressing enter will start it.

A final method is to use Windows+R to bring up the Run
dialogue, type "Jaws" followed by your version and press
enter. For example, if you have Jaws 17 then type "Jaws17"
without space and press enter.





Regards,

Sieghard



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to
use your computer?



That's what I thought. So how can I set up my computer, via
short cut keystrokes, to completely shut off JAWS, and still
easily bring it back up once said sightling is finished?



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to
use your computer?



Hi, Mike. If you shut off only the voicing of JAWS, it will
still interfere with typing text into form fields. Sighted
users won't be able to type into edit fields without
activating them in JAWS, unless JAWS is completely unloaded.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
<mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike Ulrich <mailto:mulrich@centurylink.net>

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 8:08 AM

Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings
want to use your computer?



Thanks! Do you think if I go that route and shut off
just the voicing, it won't interfere with a sightling's
normal navigation of whatever program they're working with?
As in maneuvering the mouse ETC?



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings
want to use your computer?



Hello Michael,


If all you want to do is silence JAWS, you can do
this without killing JAWS.

You will have to use the layered command.


Use the numpad insert key, this is the JAWS modifier
key.

JAWS plus space bar, then press "s" to toggle the
synthesizer on or off.

Peter T

On 2016-09-28 7:35 AM, Delaunay Christophe wrote:

Hi Michael,



First, check whether the Jaws shortcut you
should have on your desktop has a shortcut key or not. In
order to do so, select it and press <alt+enter> to display
its properties.



Then, tab twice. You should hear "Shortcut
key (hotkey):" and something more. If this additional
information is simply <none>, type a key on your keyboard,
(the letter j for instance). Then, tab away from this item,
and shift+tab back to it. You should now hear "Shortcut key
(hotkey): ctrl+alt+j". "j" could be replaced with the letter
you typed.



If it's ok, tab until the Ok button and
press <enter>.



In order to check if it works, try pressing
it. Jaws cannot be launched twice but it should inform you
about such an attempt, for instance, by placing you into the
Jaws window or opening the Jaws context menu, (depends on
whether you choose to minimize jaws in the taskbar on in the
notification area).



Now, if it works, you can confidently type
<jawskey+f4> in order to shut jaws down. After your sighted
friend gives you back your computer, simply type the hotkey
you previously defined and jaws should restart soon.



HTH, Have a nice day. ChD



From: main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: How to shut off JAWS when
sightlings want to use your computer?



So every now and then one of my sighted
friends comes over and wants to check something out on the
internet. But she's always complaining about my eloquence's
voice program running with JAWS.

So what's the fastest and best way to shut
JAWS down, and the fastest and best way to bring it back up,
after she's done?



I know way back when, on a different
computer, I had someone put on some short cut keys to
disable JAWS, once disabled you could just hit those short
cut keys again, and JAWS would come back up.



So how do I go about setting this up again
on my current laptop?

Although, it's kind of funny listening to a
sightling freak out; when having to listen to eloquence
going a thousand miles an hour while working on your
computer!



Michael D. Ulrich

Just an ordinary average blind guy!

"Providing Insight for Blindness"

Florida Council of the Blind

Fundraising Committee Member

Home Phone: 239-540-7431

Cell phone: 239-565-5845

Email: mulrich@centurylink.net
<mailto:mulrich@centurylink.net>







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Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Jaws Key+Windows+F4 will dump Jaws and restart it. It is meant as a last resort when Jaws hangs or crashes in which case this key combination usually brings it back.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

You can skip the Yes question by using Jaws+Windows+F4.  Jaws will shut down immediately.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

Unloading Jaws does not require you to set up a shortcut key, Jaws Key+F4 will do this, it is a built-in shortcut key and if you press it Jaws will say the following:

 

Unloading JAWS

Quit JAWS dialog

Are you sure you want to quit JAWS? Press Enter to quit now, or Escape to cancel.

OK

 

At this point focus is on the OK button, so just press enter and Jaws will go away, if you don't want it to do this press Escape.

As for bringing Jaws back as other pointed out you'll have to add a shortcut key combination like Control+Shift+J to the Jaws shortcut on the desktop.

As long as the Jaws shortcut is on your desktop you can also press Windows+M a couple of times to make sure all Windows are minimized and you are on the desktop, then type "J" and as long as Jaws is the only shortcut that starts with J focus will now be on Jaws and pressing enter will start it.

A final method is to use Windows+R to bring up the Run dialogue, type "Jaws" followed by your version and press enter. For example, if you have Jaws 17 then type "Jaws17" without space and press enter.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

That’s what I thought. So how can I set up my computer, via short cut keystrokes, to completely shut off JAWS, and still easily bring it back up once said sightling is finished?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

Hi, Mike. If you shut off only the voicing of JAWS, it will still interfere with typing text into form fields. Sighted users won't be able to type into edit fields without activating them in JAWS, unless JAWS is completely unloaded.

Bill White billwhite92701@...

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike Ulrich

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 8:08 AM

Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

Thanks! Do you think if I go that route and shut off just the voicing, it won’t interfere with a sightling’s normal navigation of whatever program they’re working with? As in maneuvering the mouse ETC?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

Hello Michael,


If all you want to do is silence JAWS, you can do this without killing JAWS.

You will have to use the layered command.


Use the numpad insert key, this is the JAWS modifier key.

  JAWS plus space bar, then press "s" to toggle the synthesizer on or off.

Peter T

On 2016-09-28 7:35 AM, Delaunay Christophe wrote:

Hi Michael,

 

First, check whether the Jaws shortcut you should have on your desktop has a shortcut key or not. In order to do so, select it and press <alt+enter> to display its properties.

 

Then, tab twice. You should hear “Shortcut key (hotkey):” and something more. If this additional information is simply <none>, type a key on your keyboard, (the letter j for instance). Then, tab away from this item, and shift+tab back to it. You should now hear “Shortcut key (hotkey): ctrl+alt+j”. “j” could be replaced with the letter you typed.

 

If it’s ok, tab until the Ok button and press <enter>.

 

In order to check if it works, try pressing it. Jaws cannot be launched twice but it should inform you about such an attempt, for instance, by placing you into the Jaws window or opening the Jaws context menu, (depends on whether you choose to minimize jaws in the taskbar on in the notification area).

 

Now, if it works, you can confidently type <jawskey+f4> in order to shut jaws down. After your sighted friend gives you back your computer, simply type the hotkey you previously defined and jaws should restart soon.

 

HTH, Have a nice day. ChD

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to shut off JAWS when sightlings want to use your computer?

 

So every now and then one of my sighted friends comes over and wants to check something out on the internet. But she’s always complaining about my eloquence’s voice program running with JAWS.

So what’s the fastest and best way to shut JAWS down, and the fastest and best way to bring it back up, after she’s done?

 

I know way back when, on a different computer, I had someone put on some  short cut keys to disable JAWS, once disabled you could just hit those short cut keys again, and JAWS would come back up.

 

So how do I go about setting this up again on my current laptop?

Although, it’s kind of funny listening to a sightling freak out; when having to listen to eloquence going a thousand miles an hour while working on your computer!

 

Michael D. Ulrich

Just an ordinary average blind guy!

“Providing Insight for Blindness”

Florida Council of the Blind

Fundraising Committee Member

Home Phone: 239-540-7431

Cell phone: 239-565-5845

Email: mulrich@...

 

 



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Re: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

paul lemm
 

Hi,

 

I use conversation view all the time in outlook 2010, I find it really helpful especially as I belong to a few groups like this so it’s nice to have all my emails grouped together

 

There are a few settings you need to tweak to get it to work exactly how  you want, currently  mine is set up  so in outlook  for example your message appears like below in outlook for me.

 

Conversation: jaws and conversation view , 5 items, 2 unread,

 

Then I just click right arrow to expand the conversation  and use up and down to scroll through the messages in this list .  if that’s what you’re trying to do let me know and I’ll send you instructions  on how to do this.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Cormier
Sent: 28 September 2016 18:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Outlook2010 -conversation view

 

Hi everyone,

 

 

Just wondering if anyone has had any luck at using JAWS with Outlook using the conversation view.

 

I am trying to compare it with the native iOS 10 app where IOS will advise how many emails are in the conversation and then will only stay within the borders of that conversation.

 

Seems like when I turn this option on in Outlook, it does seem to advise me that there is more than one email, but not a total number is spoken.  When I open this conversation and arrow down, then it just moves right out of this list and JAWS does not give me any indication that this was done.

 

Any help or input on this subject would be appreciated.  I looked around the web on this but did not find any info at all.

 

Mike