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Re: Notepad/Wordpad

Dave...
 

In your shared settings folder. Delete any file that has the name
notepad.xxx and wordpad.xxx. There may be more than one with different
extensions.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 05:37 AM
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad


What is the best way to delete/restore the original Notepad/Wordpad scripts?

I'm not sure what has happened; I didn't have this problem until a few
days ago, and I've had the computer for a couple of weeks.

On 9/6/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Cousin Kelty,

You'll need to find your graphics properties, usually from your desktop,
with nothing selected, and pressing your Applications key (or Shift+F10).
Look for anything in that menu like NVDIA, or some other graphics card you
have.

However, first have someone sighted look at your screen to make sure it's
actually not right-side-up.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad


How would I go about finding those key combinations? I don't think
that's what happened but it's worth checking.



On 9/5/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Cousin Kelty,

By any chance are you using a laptop? If so, there's a way using
combination

keystrokes to rotate the screen 90, 180, and 270 degrees with some
graphics

cards. If that has happened, some programs may just not work at all. Do
you

have someone sighted who can look at your screen?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 04:03 PM
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad


We'll have to see ... I haven't had much luck with them in the past.

On 9/5/16, Alan Robbins <alan1057@me.com> wrote:
I guess at this point a call to FS support may be your best bet

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kelby
carlson
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad

Nope; that didn't work either.

On 9/5/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Try maximizing the window to see if that is the issue.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 07:37 AM
Subject: Notepad/Wordpad


I am have Jaws issues in Notepad and Wordpad in Windows 10:

Notepad: I can read by paragraph, but when I try to down arrow through
a document JAWS just says "blank".

- Wordpad: It takes several times of the move paragraph command to
make JAWS move to the next paragraph.

I know this is a JAWS issue because I've tested it with NVDA and
gotten no problem.























How many times can I install my copy of jaws yet?

Delaunay Christophe
 

Hi all,

 

When I was using jaws 13 or earlier, this information was displayed in the “help/about” box of the jaws window.

 

Now, with my new jaws 17, I still can see the number of upgrades I am allowed to install but not the remaining number of machines on which I can install my copy of jaws. At installation time, I activated my copy with an ILM key.

 

Where should I look for, in order to get this information please?

 

Many thanks in advance. Have a nice day. ChD


Re: Notepad/Wordpad

kelby carlson
 

What is the best way to delete/restore the original Notepad/Wordpad scripts?

I'm not sure what has happened; I didn't have this problem until a few
days ago, and I've had the computer for a couple of weeks.

On 9/6/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Cousin Kelty,

You'll need to find your graphics properties, usually from your desktop,
with nothing selected, and pressing your Applications key (or Shift+F10).
Look for anything in that menu like NVDIA, or some other graphics card you
have.

However, first have someone sighted look at your screen to make sure it's
actually not right-side-up.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad


How would I go about finding those key combinations? I don't think
that's what happened but it's worth checking.



On 9/5/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Cousin Kelty,

By any chance are you using a laptop? If so, there's a way using
combination

keystrokes to rotate the screen 90, 180, and 270 degrees with some
graphics

cards. If that has happened, some programs may just not work at all. Do
you

have someone sighted who can look at your screen?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 04:03 PM
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad


We'll have to see ... I haven't had much luck with them in the past.

On 9/5/16, Alan Robbins <alan1057@me.com> wrote:
I guess at this point a call to FS support may be your best bet

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kelby
carlson
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad

Nope; that didn't work either.

On 9/5/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Try maximizing the window to see if that is the issue.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 07:37 AM
Subject: Notepad/Wordpad


I am have Jaws issues in Notepad and Wordpad in Windows 10:

Notepad: I can read by paragraph, but when I try to down arrow through
a document JAWS just says "blank".

- Wordpad: It takes several times of the move paragraph command to
make JAWS move to the next paragraph.

I know this is a JAWS issue because I've tested it with NVDA and
gotten no problem.























Re: Does outlook.com (the successor to hotmail) work with Jaws 14?

david
 

Hello;
I believe you will need to delete your account,
And re-do the account with these settings,


Incoming Server

* Server address: imap-mail.outlook.com

* Port number: 993

* Encryption method: SSL

Outgoing Server:

* smtp-mail.outlook.com
* port 587
* SSL/TLS should be checked

Hope this helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ryan Coverdell
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 9:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Does outlook.com (the successor to hotmail) work with Jaws 14?

Jfw 14 and windows 7. I cannot use hotmail. When opening outlook.com I am always signed in. The messages occur but I can’t click on them at all. The sign out link works fine but there’s something in the configuration of the individual links themselves that doesn’t work. I use gmail for most things but I don’t want to just forget my hotmail. What I want is a possible suggestion or list of suggestions to get the page to read.

Is it possible to get windows live mail to work with outlook.com? That may be better than using webmail.

As I do not subscribe to list mailings I’m asking that whoever replies to this do so off list please.

Regards,

Ryan Coverdell


Re: Reading by Paragraph in Wordpad

Ann Byrne
 

What is the font and font size??

At 08:45 PM 9/6/2016, you wrote:
I did not dothis; this is a brand new PC with a completely new install of JAWS.

On 9/6/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Cousin Kelty,

If FS didn't suggest this, then you might want to delete all your script
files for notepad and wordpad, and then let JAWS recreate them
for you. That

might fix the problem. If you merged or copied your scripts from an earlier

version, this type of problem can occur.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 03:05 PM
Subject: Re: Reading by Paragraph in Wordpad


Yes, that was the first hting I checked and they are both on.

On 9/6/16, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
Hi, Kelby. Have you checked your "format" settings in both Wordpad and
Notepad to make sure wordwrap is turned on. Otherwise, you may miss
entire
paragraphs due to long lines.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 12:03 AM
Subject: Reading by Paragraph in Wordpad


When I try to scroll by paragraphs in Wordpad, I have to push
control-down arrow twice to move to the next paragraph; when I do it
once it merely repeats the paragraph I am currently on. JAWS 17,
Windows 10. Anyone know what the deal is?






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Re: Reading by Paragraph in Wordpad

kelby carlson
 

I did not dothis; this is a brand new PC with a completely new install of JAWS.

On 9/6/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Cousin Kelty,

If FS didn't suggest this, then you might want to delete all your script
files for notepad and wordpad, and then let JAWS recreate them for you. That

might fix the problem. If you merged or copied your scripts from an earlier

version, this type of problem can occur.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 03:05 PM
Subject: Re: Reading by Paragraph in Wordpad


Yes, that was the first hting I checked and they are both on.

On 9/6/16, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
Hi, Kelby. Have you checked your "format" settings in both Wordpad and
Notepad to make sure wordwrap is turned on. Otherwise, you may miss
entire
paragraphs due to long lines.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 12:03 AM
Subject: Reading by Paragraph in Wordpad


When I try to scroll by paragraphs in Wordpad, I have to push
control-down arrow twice to move to the next paragraph; when I do it
once it merely repeats the paragraph I am currently on. JAWS 17,
Windows 10. Anyone know what the deal is?






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signature database 14080 (20160906) __________

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Does outlook.com (the successor to hotmail) work with Jaws 14?

Ryan Coverdell
 

Jfw 14 and windows 7. I cannot use hotmail. When opening outlook.com I am always signed in. The messages occur but I can’t click on them at all. The sign out link works fine but there’s something in the configuration of the individual links themselves that doesn’t work. I use gmail for most things but I don’t want to just forget my hotmail. What I want is a possible suggestion or list of suggestions to get the page to read.
 
Is it possible to get windows live mail to work with outlook.com? That may be better than using webmail.
 
As I do not subscribe to list mailings I’m asking that whoever replies to this do so off list please.
 
Regards,
 
Ryan Coverdell


Re: Reading by Paragraph in Wordpad

Dave...
 

Cousin Kelty,

If FS didn't suggest this, then you might want to delete all your script
files for notepad and wordpad, and then let JAWS recreate them for you. That
might fix the problem. If you merged or copied your scripts from an earlier
version, this type of problem can occur.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 03:05 PM
Subject: Re: Reading by Paragraph in Wordpad


Yes, that was the first hting I checked and they are both on.

On 9/6/16, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
Hi, Kelby. Have you checked your "format" settings in both Wordpad and
Notepad to make sure wordwrap is turned on. Otherwise, you may miss entire
paragraphs due to long lines.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 12:03 AM
Subject: Reading by Paragraph in Wordpad


When I try to scroll by paragraphs in Wordpad, I have to push
control-down arrow twice to move to the next paragraph; when I do it
once it merely repeats the paragraph I am currently on. JAWS 17,
Windows 10. Anyone know what the deal is?






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Re: Notepad/Wordpad

Dave...
 

Cousin Kelty,

You'll need to find your graphics properties, usually from your desktop,
with nothing selected, and pressing your Applications key (or Shift+F10).
Look for anything in that menu like NVDIA, or some other graphics card you
have.

However, first have someone sighted look at your screen to make sure it's
actually not right-side-up.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad


How would I go about finding those key combinations? I don't think
that's what happened but it's worth checking.



On 9/5/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Cousin Kelty,

By any chance are you using a laptop? If so, there's a way using
combination

keystrokes to rotate the screen 90, 180, and 270 degrees with some
graphics

cards. If that has happened, some programs may just not work at all. Do
you

have someone sighted who can look at your screen?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 04:03 PM
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad


We'll have to see ... I haven't had much luck with them in the past.

On 9/5/16, Alan Robbins <alan1057@me.com> wrote:
I guess at this point a call to FS support may be your best bet

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kelby
carlson
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad

Nope; that didn't work either.

On 9/5/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Try maximizing the window to see if that is the issue.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 07:37 AM
Subject: Notepad/Wordpad


I am have Jaws issues in Notepad and Wordpad in Windows 10:

Notepad: I can read by paragraph, but when I try to down arrow through
a document JAWS just says "blank".

- Wordpad: It takes several times of the move paragraph command to
make JAWS move to the next paragraph.

I know this is a JAWS issue because I've tested it with NVDA and
gotten no problem.


















Re: Reading by Paragraph in Wordpad

kelby carlson
 

Yes, that was the first hting I checked and they are both on.

On 9/6/16, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
Hi, Kelby. Have you checked your "format" settings in both Wordpad and
Notepad to make sure wordwrap is turned on. Otherwise, you may miss entire
paragraphs due to long lines.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 12:03 AM
Subject: Reading by Paragraph in Wordpad


When I try to scroll by paragraphs in Wordpad, I have to push
control-down arrow twice to move to the next paragraph; when I do it
once it merely repeats the paragraph I am currently on. JAWS 17,
Windows 10. Anyone know what the deal is?






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Re: Reading by Paragraph in Wordpad

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Kelby. Have you checked your "format" settings in both Wordpad and Notepad to make sure wordwrap is turned on. Otherwise, you may miss entire paragraphs due to long lines.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 12:03 AM
Subject: Reading by Paragraph in Wordpad


When I try to scroll by paragraphs in Wordpad, I have to push
control-down arrow twice to move to the next paragraph; when I do it
once it merely repeats the paragraph I am currently on. JAWS 17,
Windows 10. Anyone know what the deal is?





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Re: Notepad/Wordpad

kelby carlson
 

Contacted FS; they couldn't figure out the problem.

On 9/6/16, Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@kutakrock.com> wrote:
On a Lenovo, control + alt + the arrow keys will rotate the screen.
Those, by the way, are also JAWS commands to read cells in a table. So, be
sure to press the pass-through key first (JAWS Key +3).
By the way, I don't think display orientation is your problem. I have
accidentally flipped my screen a number of times, and JAWS doesn't care.
In fact, I sometimes do this for fun, i.e., flip the screen to get people's
reaction. I just tell them, as a joke, that it is part of the firm's data
security policy so that people wondering the halls cannot see confidential
information on my computer screen. <SMILE>


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kelby
carlson
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad

How would I go about finding those key combinations? I don't think that's
what happened but it's worth checking.



On 9/5/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Cousin Kelty,

By any chance are you using a laptop? If so, there's a way using
combination

keystrokes to rotate the screen 90, 180, and 270 degrees with some
graphics

cards. If that has happened, some programs may just not work at all.
Do you

have someone sighted who can look at your screen?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 04:03 PM
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad


We'll have to see ... I haven't had much luck with them in the past.

On 9/5/16, Alan Robbins <alan1057@me.com> wrote:
I guess at this point a call to FS support may be your best bet

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
kelby carlson
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad

Nope; that didn't work either.

On 9/5/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Try maximizing the window to see if that is the issue.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 07:37 AM
Subject: Notepad/Wordpad


I am have Jaws issues in Notepad and Wordpad in Windows 10:

Notepad: I can read by paragraph, but when I try to down arrow
through a document JAWS just says "blank".

- Wordpad: It takes several times of the move paragraph command to
make JAWS move to the next paragraph.

I know this is a JAWS issue because I've tested it with NVDA and
gotten no problem.




















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Re: Notepad/Wordpad

Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

On a Lenovo, control + alt + the arrow keys will rotate the screen.
Those, by the way, are also JAWS commands to read cells in a table. So, be sure to press the pass-through key first (JAWS Key +3).
By the way, I don't think display orientation is your problem. I have accidentally flipped my screen a number of times, and JAWS doesn't care.
In fact, I sometimes do this for fun, i.e., flip the screen to get people's reaction. I just tell them, as a joke, that it is part of the firm's data security policy so that people wondering the halls cannot see confidential information on my computer screen. <SMILE>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kelby carlson
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad

How would I go about finding those key combinations? I don't think that's what happened but it's worth checking.



On 9/5/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Cousin Kelty,

By any chance are you using a laptop? If so, there's a way using
combination

keystrokes to rotate the screen 90, 180, and 270 degrees with some
graphics

cards. If that has happened, some programs may just not work at all.
Do you

have someone sighted who can look at your screen?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 04:03 PM
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad


We'll have to see ... I haven't had much luck with them in the past.

On 9/5/16, Alan Robbins <alan1057@me.com> wrote:
I guess at this point a call to FS support may be your best bet

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
kelby carlson
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad

Nope; that didn't work either.

On 9/5/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Try maximizing the window to see if that is the issue.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 07:37 AM
Subject: Notepad/Wordpad


I am have Jaws issues in Notepad and Wordpad in Windows 10:

Notepad: I can read by paragraph, but when I try to down arrow
through a document JAWS just says "blank".

- Wordpad: It takes several times of the move paragraph command to
make JAWS move to the next paragraph.

I know this is a JAWS issue because I've tested it with NVDA and
gotten no problem.




















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Re: Notepad/Wordpad

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

The key combination to set the screen for portrait view, right-side-up is as follows:

alt + control + insert + up arrow.


Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad


How would I go about finding those key combinations? I don't think
that's what happened but it's worth checking.



On 9/5/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Cousin Kelty,

By any chance are you using a laptop? If so, there's a way using combination

keystrokes to rotate the screen 90, 180, and 270 degrees with some graphics

cards. If that has happened, some programs may just not work at all. Do you

have someone sighted who can look at your screen?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 04:03 PM
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad


We'll have to see ... I haven't had much luck with them in the past.

On 9/5/16, Alan Robbins <alan1057@me.com> wrote:
I guess at this point a call to FS support may be your best bet

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kelby
carlson
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad

Nope; that didn't work either.

On 9/5/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Try maximizing the window to see if that is the issue.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 07:37 AM
Subject: Notepad/Wordpad


I am have Jaws issues in Notepad and Wordpad in Windows 10:

Notepad: I can read by paragraph, but when I try to down arrow through
a document JAWS just says "blank".

- Wordpad: It takes several times of the move paragraph command to
make JAWS move to the next paragraph.

I know this is a JAWS issue because I've tested it with NVDA and
gotten no problem.





















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Re: Notepad/Wordpad

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

If you search under the search box at the start window for graphics properties, you can enter that settings view, and find normal, and press Enter. That should put the screen right. It's not the graphics settings under JAWS. This is in the Windows settings.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad


How would I go about finding those key combinations? I don't think
that's what happened but it's worth checking.



On 9/5/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Cousin Kelty,

By any chance are you using a laptop? If so, there's a way using combination

keystrokes to rotate the screen 90, 180, and 270 degrees with some graphics

cards. If that has happened, some programs may just not work at all. Do you

have someone sighted who can look at your screen?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 04:03 PM
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad


We'll have to see ... I haven't had much luck with them in the past.

On 9/5/16, Alan Robbins <alan1057@me.com> wrote:
I guess at this point a call to FS support may be your best bet

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kelby
carlson
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad

Nope; that didn't work either.

On 9/5/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Try maximizing the window to see if that is the issue.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 07:37 AM
Subject: Notepad/Wordpad


I am have Jaws issues in Notepad and Wordpad in Windows 10:

Notepad: I can read by paragraph, but when I try to down arrow through
a document JAWS just says "blank".

- Wordpad: It takes several times of the move paragraph command to
make JAWS move to the next paragraph.

I know this is a JAWS issue because I've tested it with NVDA and
gotten no problem.





















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Re: Notepad/Wordpad

kelby carlson
 

How would I go about finding those key combinations? I don't think
that's what happened but it's worth checking.

On 9/5/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Cousin Kelty,

By any chance are you using a laptop? If so, there's a way using combination

keystrokes to rotate the screen 90, 180, and 270 degrees with some graphics

cards. If that has happened, some programs may just not work at all. Do you

have someone sighted who can look at your screen?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 04:03 PM
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad


We'll have to see ... I haven't had much luck with them in the past.

On 9/5/16, Alan Robbins <alan1057@me.com> wrote:
I guess at this point a call to FS support may be your best bet

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kelby
carlson
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad

Nope; that didn't work either.

On 9/5/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Try maximizing the window to see if that is the issue.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 07:37 AM
Subject: Notepad/Wordpad


I am have Jaws issues in Notepad and Wordpad in Windows 10:

Notepad: I can read by paragraph, but when I try to down arrow through
a document JAWS just says "blank".

- Wordpad: It takes several times of the move paragraph command to
make JAWS move to the next paragraph.

I know this is a JAWS issue because I've tested it with NVDA and
gotten no problem.


















Re: Notepad/Wordpad

Dave...
 

Cousin Kelty,

By any chance are you using a laptop? If so, there's a way using combination
keystrokes to rotate the screen 90, 180, and 270 degrees with some graphics
cards. If that has happened, some programs may just not work at all. Do you
have someone sighted who can look at your screen?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 04:03 PM
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad


We'll have to see ... I haven't had much luck with them in the past.

On 9/5/16, Alan Robbins <alan1057@me.com> wrote:
I guess at this point a call to FS support may be your best bet

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kelby
carlson
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad

Nope; that didn't work either.

On 9/5/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Try maximizing the window to see if that is the issue.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 07:37 AM
Subject: Notepad/Wordpad


I am have Jaws issues in Notepad and Wordpad in Windows 10:

Notepad: I can read by paragraph, but when I try to down arrow through
a document JAWS just says "blank".

- Wordpad: It takes several times of the move paragraph command to
make JAWS move to the next paragraph.

I know this is a JAWS issue because I've tested it with NVDA and
gotten no problem.













Re: Jaws and Anti-Virus

Sharon
 

I know that Norton was a pain in the butt especially with System Access, and
that it someone seems to get into all kinds of programs, and I ended up
getting rid of it which also was not particularly easy as I remember but
that was awhile ago.
Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ekstrand,
Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 2:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and Anti-Virus

Along these lines, does anyone know if there are any conflicts with Symantec
Antivirus and JAWS? It seems that I remember issues with this, but that was
several years ago and I don't know if this is still the case.

Thanks,
Pam


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Sharon
[mt281820@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 2:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and Anti-Virus

I’m using windows 7 with it. I just cannot figure out how to do anything
with it.
What are the rest of you using?
Sharon


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of André van
Deventer
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and Anti-Virus

If you value your life stay away from avast!! And you’ll have a devil of a
time uninstalling it if you have it on your computer!!



From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of marvin kotler
Sent: 05 September 2016 04:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Jaws and Anti-Virus

Good morning list; first Sharon, avast does not work with jaws because of
some sort of conflict. Running jaws 17 and windows ten. Rumor has it that
microsoft security essentials works fairly well with jaws. So, I would
uninstall avast before it screws up jaws or some other thing. I hope this
helps. On 09/05/16 Sharon wrote;


From: Sharon<mailto:mt281820@comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 7:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Jaws and Anti-Virus

What are people using with Windows 7? Is any antivirus program at all
accessible with Jaws or any screen program for that matter?
I got rid of AVG because it was not playing nicely with System Access.
Now I have Avast installed, but cannot seem to choose any actions like fix
automatically. It does not seem to be at all accessible. Thoughts?

Sharon


Re: A Question About Selecting/Using A Different Voice for Narrator via the Freedom Scientific TTS Download Site in Windows 10, Anniversary Edition

Mark
 

Hello Paul,

On the contrary, you have been most enlightening on this issue and I
appreciate your help.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of paul lemm
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 2:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A Question About Selecting/Using A Different Voice for Narrator
via the Freedom Scientific TTS Download Site in Windows 10, Anniversary
Edition

Hi Mark,

The more I think about this, the more I think I might be wrong,, although my
jaws voices work using the method I mentioned, this might be because I'm
using the jaws voices that you used to get on the real speak CD with Jaws,
which they don't do anymore, these were definitely all 32bit which is how I
can get them to work through the 32bit speech properties window. I'm
actually not so sure if the freedom scientific voices from their website
are 64bit or 32bit now I think about it, in fact I think the issue might be
more that the voices from the freedom scientific website have been blocked
so they can only be used by Jaws. since their free to download from their
site , if they worked with everything everyone would download them rather
than going out and buying new voices, so I guess it makes sense that they
would only work with jaws. Sorry that I haven't been much more help with
this.


Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: 05 September 2016 22:09
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A Question About Selecting/Using A Different Voice for Narrator
via the Freedom Scientific TTS Download Site in Windows 10, Anniversary
Edition

This is great info, Paul.

Thank you.

Any idea why the Narrator settings state that one can install additional TTS
voices?

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of paul lemm
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 12:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A Question About Selecting/Using A Different Voice for Narrator
via the Freedom Scientific TTS Download Site in Windows 10, Anniversary
Edition

hi Mark,

so I think from windows vista and onwards if you go to control panel and
adjust the text to speech properties it only updates the speech properties
for 64bit speech. You can get windows to use the 32bit speech properties
instead of the 64bit speech properties by adjusting the 32bit speech
properties, however you can only access this through the run command. So
bring up the run window (by pressing windows key and typing run then
pressing enter) then type the following leaving out the quotation marks at
the start and end "C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Speech\SpeechUX\sapi.cpl"

and then press enter. This brings up the 32bit speech properties window, If
you wanted Tom to be your default voice for games or other screen readers
like NVDA and other applications select Tom from the list of available
32-bit Sapi voices, and press enter on the Apply button. At this point the
system default voice is then set to whatever you just selected. The only
issue with this is narrator being a 64bit program if you use narrator at
any point it automatically changes the settings back to the 64bit voices
which won't be the jaws ones.

hope the above all makes sense, I think I've made that sound a lot more
complex than it actually is lol

Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: 05 September 2016 19:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A Question About Selecting/Using A Different Voice for Narrator
via the Freedom Scientific TTS Download Site in Windows 10, Anniversary
Edition

Hello Paul,

Actually, I want the Jaws voices for Narrator but I would love to know how
to set them as the Windows default voices, as well.

So, if you can provide the steps, it would be greatly appreciated.

The thing is, in the Narrator settings dialog box, it states that one can
download other voices to use with Narrator. Hmm.

Hopefully, someone will have the answer to this.

Again, thank you for providing the steps for setting up the Jaws voices as
the Windows default voice.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of paul lemm
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 10:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: A Question About Selecting/Using A Different Voice for Narrator
via the Freedom Scientific TTS Download Site in Windows 10, Anniversary
Edition

Hi,

Someone might tell me I'm completely wrong , but I think the issue is that
narrator uses 64bit voices , but the freedom scientific ones are 32bit. Now
this might sound like a stupid question given the subject of this thread,
but do you actually want the freedom scientific voices for narrator, or is
it just for other things like audio games or different screen readers that
you want to use the jaws voices for? I don't know a solution for narrator ,
but I do knnow how to set the jaws voices as the default windows voices so
they are used for things that output sappie like audio games etc., but like
I said this unfortunately won't help with narrator.

Kind regards

Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: 05 September 2016 07:23
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: A Question About Selecting/Using A Different Voice for Narator via
the Freedom Scientific TTS Download Site in Windows 10, Anniversary Edition

Hello Everyone,

I could have sworn that I read somewhere, either on this list or on the web,
that it is possible to use any of the Jaws TTS engines with Narator.

In fact, now that I think about it, the people at the Microsoft acessability
line told me this, a while ago.

However, I just downloaded and installed a Vocalizer Expressive TTS engine
from Freedom Scientific and when I open the Voices drop-down list in
Narator, it is not listed as one of my options.

Did I download the wrong TTS engine?

All comments greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.

Mark


Re: Notepad/Wordpad

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I forgot to say, that I have JAWS 17 (latest).

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kelby carlson
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 7:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad

Well, I know it is a JAWS issue since I've tested it with NVDA and it doesn't do this.

I would use Wordpad, but as I said I can't easily move paragraph y paragraph.

On 9/5/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I use windows 10 with JAWS 17, and I have no problems reading
documents in Word Pad and Note Pad at all. I wonder what is going on
here, that you are just hearing blank. I Copy and paste emails into
word pad all the time and read them. Now, you might try to do this.
You can set word pad as the default to read .RTF, .TXT, .DOX Word 2007
or above, and even Doc, the Word

2003 .Doc format. You can do this in the default program setting. Word
pad works with .TXT format, so you do not have to use Notepad.
Take care,
David Moore


-----Original Message-----
From: kelby carlson
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 7:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad

We'll have to see ... I haven't had much luck with them in the past.

On 9/5/16, Alan Robbins <alan1057@me.com> wrote:
I guess at this point a call to FS support may be your best bet

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
kelby carlson
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Notepad/Wordpad

Nope; that didn't work either.

On 9/5/16, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Try maximizing the window to see if that is the issue.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 07:37 AM
Subject: Notepad/Wordpad


I am have Jaws issues in Notepad and Wordpad in Windows 10:

Notepad: I can read by paragraph, but when I try to down arrow
through a document JAWS just says "blank".

- Wordpad: It takes several times of the move paragraph command to
make JAWS move to the next paragraph.

I know this is a JAWS issue because I've tested it with NVDA and
gotten no problem.