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Re: Outlook.com's new interface

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

There should be a button on the page which says use outlook.com mobile.

The URL is really long, and I don't even know if the address I'm getting is the link for only my hotmail account.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: Outlook.com's new interface


how do I get there? I usually just type hotmail.com into the browser.
so I guess it would be m.hotmail.com?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Tuesday, Aug 30, 2016 12:39 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook.com's new interface

Hi, Mario. I use the mobile version of outlook.com. It has a more
friendly interface.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 9:35 AM
Subject: Outlook.com's new interface


is there a setting to revert back to the way the interface used to be or
a setting to set the UI to be more screen reader friendly? I
occasionally login to my account if I need to make a change, but find
the new UI very confusing, and I'm annoyed MS keeps making changes that
impair users who rely on using a screen reader.

and the problem with JAWS not being able to review
Firefox 48's screens with the JAWS cursor is annoying.

any help would be appreciated in resolving these two issues.







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Re: Outlook.com's new interface

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

No, they wouldn't, but composing email is a lot simpler.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: Outlook.com's new interface


Yes, and if we were to get the mobile version, would all our contacts and other saved items be there?

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of George B
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 1:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook.com's new interface

What is the address for the mobile version please

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: August 30, 2016 09:40
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook.com's new interface

Hi, Mario. I use the mobile version of outlook.com. It has a more friendly interface.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 9:35 AM
Subject: Outlook.com's new interface


is there a setting to revert back to the way the interface used to be
or a setting to set the UI to be more screen reader friendly? I
occasionally login to my account if I need to make a change, but find
the new UI very confusing, and I'm annoyed MS keeps making changes
that impair users who rely on using a screen reader.

and the problem with JAWS not being able to review Firefox 48's
screens with the JAWS cursor is annoying.

any help would be appreciated in resolving these two issues.





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Re: Outlook.com's new interface

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

There should be a button on the page which says use outlook.com mobile.

The URL is really long, and I don't even know if the address I'm getting is the link for only my hotmail account.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: Outlook.com's new interface


how do I get there? I usually just type hotmail.com into the browser.
so I guess it would be m.hotmail.com?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Tuesday, Aug 30, 2016 12:39 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook.com's new interface

Hi, Mario. I use the mobile version of outlook.com. It has a more
friendly interface.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 9:35 AM
Subject: Outlook.com's new interface


is there a setting to revert back to the way the interface used to be or
a setting to set the UI to be more screen reader friendly? I
occasionally login to my account if I need to make a change, but find
the new UI very confusing, and I'm annoyed MS keeps making changes that
impair users who rely on using a screen reader.

and the problem with JAWS not being able to review
Firefox 48's screens with the JAWS cursor is annoying.

any help would be appreciated in resolving these two issues.







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signature database 14042 (20160830) __________

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http://www.eset.com







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Re: Google Chrome question

Maria Kristic
 

You have to TAB through the browser options, and hit ENTER to make your selection.

 

Regards,

Maria

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lauren Snyder
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 8:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Chrome question

 

Hi Brian:

 

I did as you suggested; however, when I pressed enter to find the list of available browsers, only Microsoft Edge is read by Jaws. I use the arrow keys in all directions and also even tried making Firefox the default by using the suggested keystrokes of alt+shift+d, but it does not seem to work.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thank you.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 10:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Chrome question

 

Lauren,

         I will presume you're working under Windows 10.  Although the principle of what follows applies to earlier versions of Windows the step-by-step instructions I will be giving do not.  It sounds like Google Chrome is currently set as your default web browser and you'd prefer that IE11 be your default web browser.  The following steps will allow you to set any installed web browser on your system as the one that will be used by default for click-through links.  I regret to say that this does not apply, at all, to Cortana if you're using the Personal Digital Assistant feature, as she's had a "forced marriage" to MS-Edge and Bing.

To set your default web browser:

  1. Hit the Windows Key and immediately type "Default Web Browser".  This will get you the "Choose a default web browser" system setting as the first and only returned item.  Hit Enter.
  2. You will now be in System Settings and be placed directly on the web browser button, which will announce whatever web browser happens to be your current default, and at the moment it sounds like yours will announce "Google Chrome"
  3. Activate the button and you will get a context menu that allows you to select any of the web browsers that came pre-installed with Windows 10, and this includes Internet Explorer, or any that you've installed such as Google Chrome or Firefox.  Once you've gained focus on your desired web browser hit Enter to assign it as the default.

After having done the above when you "click through" on a link it should open in Internet Explorer until or unless you change your default browser to something else or a Windows Update changes it for you (which can happen, and usually reverts it to MS-Edge, but doesn't happen often).
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Which version of office is best with Jaws?

Maria Kristic
 

As I said, the desktop versions of Office programs you get with an Office
365 subscription are the same ones you would get with the Office Pro
standalone suite. RE the Office online Web interface component of the Office
365 subscription, I have not used it recently, but when I did a few months
back for some basic task that I can't remember now, I could certainly use
it. I know Microsoft are working on improvements to Office Online as has
been mentioned on this thread. Here's a Freedom Scientific webinar about
Office Online from November of last year:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/WebinarDe
tail/F0117 I have so far used only the Word app on iOS for some rudimentary
document creation (the most advanced thing I did was use the auto-numbering
feature, though VoiceOver did not read the automatic number insertions), and
I was able to create my short document and save it to OneDrive. OneDrive is
accessed on Windows from Windows Explorer, and the OneDrive app works fine
on iOS.

Regards,
Maria

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John J.
Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 7:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Which version of office is best with Jaws?

Hi: A couple months ago I posted a question about office 365 being
accessible with jaws and was told it is not. Has that changed?
Thanks.


Re: Google Chrome question

Lauren Snyder
 

Hi Brian:

 

I did as you suggested; however, when I pressed enter to find the list of available browsers, only Microsoft Edge is read by Jaws. I use the arrow keys in all directions and also even tried making Firefox the default by using the suggested keystrokes of alt+shift+d, but it does not seem to work.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thank you.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 10:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Chrome question

 

Lauren,

         I will presume you're working under Windows 10.  Although the principle of what follows applies to earlier versions of Windows the step-by-step instructions I will be giving do not.  It sounds like Google Chrome is currently set as your default web browser and you'd prefer that IE11 be your default web browser.  The following steps will allow you to set any installed web browser on your system as the one that will be used by default for click-through links.  I regret to say that this does not apply, at all, to Cortana if you're using the Personal Digital Assistant feature, as she's had a "forced marriage" to MS-Edge and Bing.

To set your default web browser:

  1. Hit the Windows Key and immediately type "Default Web Browser".  This will get you the "Choose a default web browser" system setting as the first and only returned item.  Hit Enter.
  2. You will now be in System Settings and be placed directly on the web browser button, which will announce whatever web browser happens to be your current default, and at the moment it sounds like yours will announce "Google Chrome"
  3. Activate the button and you will get a context menu that allows you to select any of the web browsers that came pre-installed with Windows 10, and this includes Internet Explorer, or any that you've installed such as Google Chrome or Firefox.  Once you've gained focus on your desired web browser hit Enter to assign it as the default.

After having done the above when you "click through" on a link it should open in Internet Explorer until or unless you change your default browser to something else or a Windows Update changes it for you (which can happen, and usually reverts it to MS-Edge, but doesn't happen often).
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Question about upgrading

Maria Campbell
 

I believe that is what I did as well.


Maria Campbell
lucky1@gmail.com

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, hunanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 8/30/2016 5:12 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:
You can always download the anaversary update by clicking the learn more link in the windows update earea of the settings app. That is what I did and It went smoothly. That is if you don’t want to wait for your machine to do it for you.

Kenny Peyatt jr.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Zachary Abernathy
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 4:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about upgrading


Thank you. This explains why I have not gotten the update on my personal computer, yet I have it on 2 others.

Regards,


Ps. So this "telemetry" you speak of...does the data collected have an immediate or real time effect on the rollout schedule?

Regards,



"If I fall short of my goals in life, I guarantee it won't be because of my lack of Vision."



On Aug 30, 2016, at 07:15, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:

Zachary Abernathy, in regard to the Windows 10 Anniversary Update, wrote: "I was under the impression it was to be a structured rollout...??"

About which you are absolutely correct. This update has been much more fraught with issues, though not for everyone, than had been anticipated. I got it almost the moment it was available. How my machine came to be one of "the chosen few" for first update I do not know. I have lost jump lists in the start menu, but that's about it, and none of the tweaks that have been issued since have restored them. Others have had more significant difficulties while still others have had none.

The whole purpose of the system health telemetry is to alert Microsoft to malfunctions occurring in the field that did not occur in their testbed. When these occur in the quantity and with the frequency that they have for the Anniversary Update this can and will change the rollout schedule. It's quite clear now that the brakes have been put on as far as continued rollout until the existing identified issues can be resolved. This happened with one of the 2015 major updates as well, but I can't recall which one at the moment.

No one is going to fail to get the Anniversary Update unless they have their wireless internet connection identified as metered, which will prevent the download of any Windows Updates. Microsoft will almost certainly announce when it believes everyone should already have the Anniversary Update installed when the end of the rollout period arrives. I suspect that this will be months away just based on how the rollout has already slowed to a crawl, or perhaps stopped for the moment.


Re: Question about upgrading

Zachary Abernathy <zabernathy@...>
 

Very true.
Regards,


"If I fall short of my goals in life, I guarantee it won't be because of my lack of Vision."


On Aug 30, 2016, at 13:37, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Zachary,

             I think that presuming realtime changes in rollout scheduling secondary to telemetry data or, possibly, the lack thereof, is a bit too optimistic.  I do know that it's aggregated and those aggregate results are closely monitored by humans who can raise the red flag to stop something dead in its tracks mighty quickly.

             Last year I had downloaded and burned one of the Win10 ISOs mere hours before it was pulled due to error reporting from the system health feature where you can exercise some degree of control over how extensive that data is under the Privacy Settings, Feedback & diagnostics pane.   It's taking longer for Microsoft to roll out the Anniversary Update than any of the prior ones I can think of, by a long shot, and that speaks volumes as far as I'm concerned.  Much better late than on time and disastrous.  
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Question about upgrading

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

You can always download the anaversary update by clicking the learn more link in the windows update earea of the settings app. That is what I did and It went smoothly. That is if you don’t want to wait for your machine to do it for you.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Zachary Abernathy
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 4:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about upgrading

 

Thank you. This explains why I have not gotten the update on my personal computer, yet I have it on 2 others.

Regards,

 

Ps. So this "telemetry" you speak of...does the data collected have an immediate or real time effect on the rollout schedule?

Regards,



"If I fall short of my goals in life, I guarantee it won't be because of my lack of Vision."

 


On Aug 30, 2016, at 07:15, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Zachary Abernathy, in regard to the Windows 10 Anniversary Update, wrote:  "I was under the impression it was to be a structured rollout...??"

About which you are absolutely correct.  This update has been much more fraught with issues, though not for everyone, than had been anticipated.  I got it almost the moment it was available.  How my machine came to be one of "the chosen few" for first update I do not know.  I have lost jump lists in the start menu, but that's about it, and none of the tweaks that have been issued since have restored them.  Others have had more significant difficulties while still others have had none.

The whole purpose of the system health telemetry is to alert Microsoft to malfunctions occurring in the field that did not occur in their testbed.  When these occur in the quantity and with the frequency that they have for the Anniversary Update this can and will change the rollout schedule.  It's quite clear now that the brakes have been put on as far as continued rollout until the existing identified issues can be resolved.  This happened with one of the 2015 major updates as well, but I can't recall which one at the moment.

No one is going to fail to get the Anniversary Update unless they have their wireless internet connection identified as metered, which will prevent the download of any Windows Updates.   Microsoft will almost certainly announce when it believes everyone should already have the Anniversary Update installed when the end of the rollout period arrives.  I suspect that this will be months away just based on how the rollout has already slowed to a crawl, or perhaps stopped for the moment.

--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Question about upgrading

 

Zachary,

             I think that presuming realtime changes in rollout scheduling secondary to telemetry data or, possibly, the lack thereof, is a bit too optimistic.  I do know that it's aggregated and those aggregate results are closely monitored by humans who can raise the red flag to stop something dead in its tracks mighty quickly.

             Last year I had downloaded and burned one of the Win10 ISOs mere hours before it was pulled due to error reporting from the system health feature where you can exercise some degree of control over how extensive that data is under the Privacy Settings, Feedback & diagnostics pane.   It's taking longer for Microsoft to roll out the Anniversary Update than any of the prior ones I can think of, by a long shot, and that speaks volumes as far as I'm concerned.  Much better late than on time and disastrous.  
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Question about upgrading

Zachary Abernathy <zabernathy@...>
 

Thank you. This explains why I have not gotten the update on my personal computer, yet I have it on 2 others.
Regards,

Ps. So this "telemetry" you speak of...does the data collected have an immediate or real time effect on the rollout schedule?
Regards,


"If I fall short of my goals in life, I guarantee it won't be because of my lack of Vision."


On Aug 30, 2016, at 07:15, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Zachary Abernathy, in regard to the Windows 10 Anniversary Update, wrote:  "I was under the impression it was to be a structured rollout...??"

About which you are absolutely correct.  This update has been much more fraught with issues, though not for everyone, than had been anticipated.  I got it almost the moment it was available.  How my machine came to be one of "the chosen few" for first update I do not know.  I have lost jump lists in the start menu, but that's about it, and none of the tweaks that have been issued since have restored them.  Others have had more significant difficulties while still others have had none.

The whole purpose of the system health telemetry is to alert Microsoft to malfunctions occurring in the field that did not occur in their testbed.  When these occur in the quantity and with the frequency that they have for the Anniversary Update this can and will change the rollout schedule.  It's quite clear now that the brakes have been put on as far as continued rollout until the existing identified issues can be resolved.  This happened with one of the 2015 major updates as well, but I can't recall which one at the moment.

No one is going to fail to get the Anniversary Update unless they have their wireless internet connection identified as metered, which will prevent the download of any Windows Updates.   Microsoft will almost certainly announce when it believes everyone should already have the Anniversary Update installed when the end of the rollout period arrives.  I suspect that this will be months away just based on how the rollout has already slowed to a crawl, or perhaps stopped for the moment.

--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Question about upgrading

Mario
 

OK. thanks.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, Aug 30, 2016 2:12 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question about upgrading

Mario,

It can't hurt. Simply invoke Windows Update in the manner
appropriate to the version of Windows you're running. Going to Control
Panel will get you to where you can invoke Windows Update no matter what
version of Windows you're running.
--
*/Brian/*


/*A great many people think they are thinking when they are */*/merely
rearranging their prejudices./*

* ~ William James*


Re: Question about upgrading

 

Mario,

             I retract that statement about Control Panel, at least for Windows 10 after the Anniversary Update, as it's not in Control Panel on my 64-bit Win10 Home machine when I look now.

             Under Windows 10 just go to Settings and choose the "Updates & Security" settings and you immediately land on the Windows Update pane and have a "Check for updates" button on that pane.

--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Outlook.com's new interface

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Yes, and if we were to get the mobile version, would all our contacts and other saved items be there?

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of George B
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 1:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook.com's new interface

What is the address for the mobile version please

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: August 30, 2016 09:40
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook.com's new interface

Hi, Mario. I use the mobile version of outlook.com. It has a more friendly interface.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 9:35 AM
Subject: Outlook.com's new interface


is there a setting to revert back to the way the interface used to be
or a setting to set the UI to be more screen reader friendly? I
occasionally login to my account if I need to make a change, but find
the new UI very confusing, and I'm annoyed MS keeps making changes
that impair users who rely on using a screen reader.

and the problem with JAWS not being able to review Firefox 48's
screens with the JAWS cursor is annoying.

any help would be appreciated in resolving these two issues.





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Re: Question about upgrading

 

Mario,

             It can't hurt.  Simply invoke Windows Update in the manner appropriate to the version of Windows you're running.  Going to Control Panel will get you to where you can invoke Windows Update no matter what version of Windows you're running.
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Question about upgrading

Teddybear
 

When jaws 18 beta will out?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Portillo
Sent: Tuesday, 30 August, 2016 4:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question about upgrading

 

Hello,

 

I would like to upgrade to the Windows 10 anniversary edition.  I’m currently using the latest version of JAWS 17 and last year’s Windows 10.

I thought I read somewhere that there was something wrong with downloading the anniversary edition update because it didn’t like the accessibility drivers.  Is this correct?

So, what is the best way to upgrade? 

So far, I’ve gone to Settings, and then to “Check for update.”  It tells me that my system is up to date, but I guess that’s from the current Windows 10 and not the newer one.

I know I can tab to “Learn More” and download it that way, but is this the way that people advise against?

If this has already been discussed, then someone can write me off list with specific instructions.

Thanks much as always.

 

Jim

 

 


Re: Outlook.com's new interface

Mario
 

how do I get there? I usually just type hotmail.com into the browser.
so I guess it would be m.hotmail.com?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Tuesday, Aug 30, 2016 12:39 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook.com's new interface

Hi, Mario. I use the mobile version of outlook.com. It has a more
friendly interface.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 9:35 AM
Subject: Outlook.com's new interface


is there a setting to revert back to the way the interface used to be or
a setting to set the UI to be more screen reader friendly? I
occasionally login to my account if I need to make a change, but find
the new UI very confusing, and I'm annoyed MS keeps making changes that
impair users who rely on using a screen reader.

and the problem with JAWS not being able to review
Firefox 48's screens with the JAWS cursor is annoying.

any help would be appreciated in resolving these two issues.







__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
signature database 14042 (20160830) __________

The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

http://www.eset.com







.


Re: Outlook.com's new interface

George Basioli <gbmagoo@...>
 

What is the address for the mobile version please

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: August 30, 2016 09:40
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook.com's new interface

Hi, Mario. I use the mobile version of outlook.com. It has a more friendly interface.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 9:35 AM
Subject: Outlook.com's new interface


is there a setting to revert back to the way the interface used to be
or a setting to set the UI to be more screen reader friendly? I
occasionally login to my account if I need to make a change, but find
the new UI very confusing, and I'm annoyed MS keeps making changes
that impair users who rely on using a screen reader.

and the problem with JAWS not being able to review Firefox 48's
screens with the JAWS cursor is annoying.

any help would be appreciated in resolving these two issues.





__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 14042 (20160830) __________

The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

http://www.eset.com


Re: Question about upgrading

Maria Campbell
 

I, for one, don't leave my laptop on all the time, I think, for obvious reasons. Additionally, I need to manually do updates, because I have different data caps during the day versus during the night at my winter home.


Maria Campbell
lucky1@gmail.com

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On 8/30/2016 12:47 PM, Mario wrote:
so, would it be advisable to occasionally check if there are updates?
I also need to know how because I'm not sure if I noted how to check.
it's probably simple but I still want to make a note on how to do it.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, Aug 30, 2016 12:34 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question about upgrading

Mario,

The Anniversary Update will be detected, and an attempt to
download it made, if Windows Update detects it has not been applied and
one's individual machine happens to be in the current rollout group (and
I have no idea how Microsoft works out its groupings, just that these
major updates are not shot to every Windows 10 machine at one time, but
occur in "chunks" of the Windows 10 embedded base).

If you shut your machine down nightly it is entirely possible
that you might not end up completing the process of downloading and
installing since this particular update is quite substantial in size. I
do not recommend to my clients that they do shut their machines down on
a daily basis, particularly if you have a conventional disc drive that
isn't one that's designed to, essentially, turn itself off when it's not
been accessed for a while. The wear and tear on spinning a disc up to
speed after being shut down is a lot worse over repeated cycles than
just letting the thing keep on spinning. You could also be in the same
situation if you work at night and shut your machine down during the
day. Windows Update generally checks sometime shortly after a machine
starts up if it's been off for any significant period of time to see if
there are updates available, but once it finds them if you don't give it
sufficient time to download and install these you can be in a perpetual,
"I need this, I'm getting this, I stopped the process in the middle so I
need to start over again" loop. As a general rule I recommend leaving
your computer on, period, but if you you see that Windows Update is
pulling down a major update like the Anniversary Update in particular
you should definitely let the computer run and do its thing.

Other points:

1. Jump Lists have not been eliminated and this can be confirmed in the
Personalization settings where the toggle switch for "Show recently
opened items in Jump Lists on Start or the Task Bar" still exists.
2. I have no idea what the KBB number for the Anniversary Update is.
You can, however, tell if you have it by hitting the Windows Key,
typing "winver", then hitting enter. If the About Windows dialog
that comes up tells you that you are running Version 1607 then you
have already got the Anniversary Update. If not then the most
likely version you'd be running is 1511.


Re: Question about upgrading

Mario
 

so, would it be advisable to occasionally check if there are updates?
I also need to know how because I'm not sure if I noted how to check.
it's probably simple but I still want to make a note on how to do it.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, Aug 30, 2016 12:34 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question about upgrading

Mario,

The Anniversary Update will be detected, and an attempt to
download it made, if Windows Update detects it has not been applied and
one's individual machine happens to be in the current rollout group (and
I have no idea how Microsoft works out its groupings, just that these
major updates are not shot to every Windows 10 machine at one time, but
occur in "chunks" of the Windows 10 embedded base).

If you shut your machine down nightly it is entirely possible
that you might not end up completing the process of downloading and
installing since this particular update is quite substantial in size. I
do not recommend to my clients that they do shut their machines down on
a daily basis, particularly if you have a conventional disc drive that
isn't one that's designed to, essentially, turn itself off when it's not
been accessed for a while. The wear and tear on spinning a disc up to
speed after being shut down is a lot worse over repeated cycles than
just letting the thing keep on spinning. You could also be in the same
situation if you work at night and shut your machine down during the
day. Windows Update generally checks sometime shortly after a machine
starts up if it's been off for any significant period of time to see if
there are updates available, but once it finds them if you don't give it
sufficient time to download and install these you can be in a perpetual,
"I need this, I'm getting this, I stopped the process in the middle so I
need to start over again" loop. As a general rule I recommend leaving
your computer on, period, but if you you see that Windows Update is
pulling down a major update like the Anniversary Update in particular
you should definitely let the computer run and do its thing.

Other points:

1. Jump Lists have not been eliminated and this can be confirmed in the
Personalization settings where the toggle switch for "Show recently
opened items in Jump Lists on Start or the Task Bar" still exists.
2. I have no idea what the KBB number for the Anniversary Update is.
You can, however, tell if you have it by hitting the Windows Key,
typing "winver", then hitting enter. If the About Windows dialog
that comes up tells you that you are running Version 1607 then you
have already got the Anniversary Update. If not then the most
likely version you'd be running is 1511.

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*/Brian/*


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