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Re: Question about upgrading

 

Mario,

         The Anniversary Update will be detected, and an attempt to download it made, if Windows Update detects it has not been applied and one's individual machine happens to be in the current rollout group (and I have no idea how Microsoft works out its groupings, just that these major updates are not shot to every Windows 10 machine at one time, but occur in "chunks" of the Windows 10 embedded base).

         If you shut your machine down nightly it is entirely possible that you might not end up completing the process of downloading and installing since this particular update is quite substantial in size.  I do not recommend to my clients that they do shut their machines down on a daily basis, particularly if you have a conventional disc drive that isn't one that's designed to, essentially, turn itself off when it's not been accessed for a while.  The wear and tear on spinning a disc up to speed after being shut down is a lot worse over repeated cycles than just letting the thing keep on spinning.   You could also be in the same situation if you work at night and shut your machine down during the day.  Windows Update generally checks sometime shortly after a machine starts up if it's been off for any significant period of time to see if there are updates available, but once it finds them if you don't give it sufficient time to download and install these you can be in a perpetual, "I need this, I'm getting this, I stopped the process in the middle so I need to start over again" loop.   As a general rule I recommend leaving your computer on, period, but if you you see that Windows Update is pulling down a major update like the Anniversary Update in particular you should definitely let the computer run and do its thing.

          Other points:

  1. Jump Lists have not been eliminated and this can be confirmed in the Personalization settings where the toggle switch for "Show recently opened items in Jump Lists on Start or the Task Bar" still exists.
  2. I have no idea what the KBB number for the Anniversary Update is.  You can, however, tell if you have it by hitting the Windows Key, typing "winver", then hitting enter.  If the About Windows dialog that comes up tells you that you are running Version 1607 then you have already got the Anniversary Update.  If not then the most likely version you'd be running is 1511. 

--
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Re: Question about upgrading

Mario
 

Brian, what about those who shut off their computers at night? if they
did not get the anniversary update already, will they ever get it if
they just wait?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, Aug 30, 2016 10:15 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question about upgrading

Zachary Abernathy, in regard to the Windows 10 Anniversary Update,
wrote: "I was under the impression it was to be a structured rollout...??"

About which you are absolutely correct. This update has been much more
fraught with issues, though not for everyone, than had been anticipated.
I got it almost the moment it was available. How my machine came to be
one of "the chosen few" for first update I do not know. I have lost
jump lists in the start menu, but that's about it, and none of the
tweaks that have been issued since have restored them. Others have had
more significant difficulties while still others have had none.

The whole purpose of the system health telemetry is to alert Microsoft
to malfunctions occurring in the field that did not occur in their
testbed. When these occur in the quantity and with the frequency that
they have for the Anniversary Update this can and will change the
rollout schedule. It's quite clear now that the brakes have been put on
as far as continued rollout until the existing identified issues can be
resolved. This happened with one of the 2015 major updates as well, but
I can't recall which one at the moment.

No one is going to fail to get the Anniversary Update unless they have
their wireless internet connection identified as metered, which will
prevent the download of any Windows Updates. Microsoft will almost
certainly announce when it believes everyone should already have the
Anniversary Update installed when the end of the rollout period arrives.
I suspect that this will be months away just based on how the rollout
has already slowed to a crawl, or perhaps stopped for the moment.

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rearranging their prejudices./*

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Re: Question about upgrading

George Basioli <gbmagoo@...>
 

Jump lists were removed I think

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: August 30, 2016 07:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about upgrading

 

Zachary Abernathy, in regard to the Windows 10 Anniversary Update, wrote:  "I was under the impression it was to be a structured rollout...??"

About which you are absolutely correct.  This update has been much more fraught with issues, though not for everyone, than had been anticipated.  I got it almost the moment it was available.  How my machine came to be one of "the chosen few" for first update I do not know.  I have lost jump lists in the start menu, but that's about it, and none of the tweaks that have been issued since have restored them.  Others have had more significant difficulties while still others have had none.

The whole purpose of the system health telemetry is to alert Microsoft to malfunctions occurring in the field that did not occur in their testbed.  When these occur in the quantity and with the frequency that they have for the Anniversary Update this can and will change the rollout schedule.  It's quite clear now that the brakes have been put on as far as continued rollout until the existing identified issues can be resolved.  This happened with one of the 2015 major updates as well, but I can't recall which one at the moment.

No one is going to fail to get the Anniversary Update unless they have their wireless internet connection identified as metered, which will prevent the download of any Windows Updates.   Microsoft will almost certainly announce when it believes everyone should already have the Anniversary Update installed when the end of the rollout period arrives.  I suspect that this will be months away just based on how the rollout has already slowed to a crawl, or perhaps stopped for the moment.

--
Brian


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         ~ William James


Re: Question about upgrading

James Malone
 

Hi Brian, Did this upgrade end with the numbers 407?

James

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 7:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about upgrading

 

Zachary Abernathy, in regard to the Windows 10 Anniversary Update, wrote:  "I was under the impression it was to be a structured rollout...??"

About which you are absolutely correct.  This update has been much more fraught with issues, though not for everyone, than had been anticipated.  I got it almost the moment it was available.  How my machine came to be one of "the chosen few" for first update I do not know.  I have lost jump lists in the start menu, but that's about it, and none of the tweaks that have been issued since have restored them.  Others have had more significant difficulties while still others have had none.

The whole purpose of the system health telemetry is to alert Microsoft to malfunctions occurring in the field that did not occur in their testbed.  When these occur in the quantity and with the frequency that they have for the Anniversary Update this can and will change the rollout schedule.  It's quite clear now that the brakes have been put on as far as continued rollout until the existing identified issues can be resolved.  This happened with one of the 2015 major updates as well, but I can't recall which one at the moment.

No one is going to fail to get the Anniversary Update unless they have their wireless internet connection identified as metered, which will prevent the download of any Windows Updates.   Microsoft will almost certainly announce when it believes everyone should already have the Anniversary Update installed when the end of the rollout period arrives.  I suspect that this will be months away just based on how the rollout has already slowed to a crawl, or perhaps stopped for the moment.

--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Question about upgrading

 

Zachary Abernathy, in regard to the Windows 10 Anniversary Update, wrote:  "I was under the impression it was to be a structured rollout...??"

About which you are absolutely correct.  This update has been much more fraught with issues, though not for everyone, than had been anticipated.  I got it almost the moment it was available.  How my machine came to be one of "the chosen few" for first update I do not know.  I have lost jump lists in the start menu, but that's about it, and none of the tweaks that have been issued since have restored them.  Others have had more significant difficulties while still others have had none.

The whole purpose of the system health telemetry is to alert Microsoft to malfunctions occurring in the field that did not occur in their testbed.  When these occur in the quantity and with the frequency that they have for the Anniversary Update this can and will change the rollout schedule.  It's quite clear now that the brakes have been put on as far as continued rollout until the existing identified issues can be resolved.  This happened with one of the 2015 major updates as well, but I can't recall which one at the moment.

No one is going to fail to get the Anniversary Update unless they have their wireless internet connection identified as metered, which will prevent the download of any Windows Updates.   Microsoft will almost certainly announce when it believes everyone should already have the Anniversary Update installed when the end of the rollout period arrives.  I suspect that this will be months away just based on how the rollout has already slowed to a crawl, or perhaps stopped for the moment.

--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: FW: Can Alzheimer’s actually be REVERSED? (New data says yes…)

Gudrun Brunot
 

Peter, I really do hope the info can be somewhat helpful.

Warmly,



Gudrun

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Subject: Re: FW: Can Alzheimer’s actually be REVERSED? (New data says yes…)

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Re: FW: Can Alzheimer’s actually be REVERSED? (New data says yes…)

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Re: Question about upgrading

Zachary Abernathy <zabernathy@...>
 

I was under the impression it was to be a structured rollout...??
Regards,

Ps. HI JIM!!!!
You can't get rid of me sir!!!


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On Aug 29, 2016, at 19:01, Mark <facebookmark@candleshoreblog.com> wrote:

Hello Jim,

At one time, the Freedom Scientific display driver was an issue during the
upgrade process.

However, this issue has been resolved. Just make certain that you have the
absolute latest version of Jaws 17, before you begin the upgrade process.

All things being equal, you may use the method you listed in your original
post to update to the Anniversary version of Windows 10 without fear of
encountering any problems from the Freedom Scientific display driver.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

Mark

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim
Portillo
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 1:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question about upgrading

Hello,

I would like to upgrade to the Windows 10 anniversary edition. I’m
currently using the latest version of JAWS 17 and last year’s Windows 10.
I thought I read somewhere that there was something wrong with downloading
the anniversary edition update because it didn’t like the accessibility
drivers. Is this correct?
So, what is the best way to upgrade?
So far, I’ve gone to Settings, and then to “Check for update.” It tells me
that my system is up to date, but I guess that’s from the current Windows 10
and not the newer one.
I know I can tab to “Learn More” and download it that way, but is this the
way that people advise against?
If this has already been discussed, then someone can write me off list with
specific instructions.
Thanks much as always.

Jim







Re: Question about upgrading

 

I posted this on this group and on the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users group on August 22nd.  For those worrying about not having the Anniversary Update yet, count yourselves lucky and read the post at this link: https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/message/8615

The best things, like upgrades with all the kinks worked out, come to those who wait.
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Re: Google Chrome question

 

Lauren,

         I will presume you're working under Windows 10.  Although the principle of what follows applies to earlier versions of Windows the step-by-step instructions I will be giving do not.  It sounds like Google Chrome is currently set as your default web browser and you'd prefer that IE11 be your default web browser.  The following steps will allow you to set any installed web browser on your system as the one that will be used by default for click-through links.  I regret to say that this does not apply, at all, to Cortana if you're using the Personal Digital Assistant feature, as she's had a "forced marriage" to MS-Edge and Bing.

To set your default web browser:

  1. Hit the Windows Key and immediately type "Default Web Browser".  This will get you the "Choose a default web browser" system setting as the first and only returned item.  Hit Enter.
  2. You will now be in System Settings and be placed directly on the web browser button, which will announce whatever web browser happens to be your current default, and at the moment it sounds like yours will announce "Google Chrome"
  3. Activate the button and you will get a context menu that allows you to select any of the web browsers that came pre-installed with Windows 10, and this includes Internet Explorer, or any that you've installed such as Google Chrome or Firefox.  Once you've gained focus on your desired web browser hit Enter to assign it as the default.

After having done the above when you "click through" on a link it should open in Internet Explorer until or unless you change your default browser to something else or a Windows Update changes it for you (which can happen, and usually reverts it to MS-Edge, but doesn't happen often).
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Question about upgrading

Mark
 

Hello Jim,

At one time, the Freedom Scientific display driver was an issue during the
upgrade process.

However, this issue has been resolved. Just make certain that you have the
absolute latest version of Jaws 17, before you begin the upgrade process.

All things being equal, you may use the method you listed in your original
post to update to the Anniversary version of Windows 10 without fear of
encountering any problems from the Freedom Scientific display driver.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

Mark

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim
Portillo
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 1:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question about upgrading

Hello,

I would like to upgrade to the Windows 10 anniversary edition.  I’m
currently using the latest version of JAWS 17 and last year’s Windows 10.
I thought I read somewhere that there was something wrong with downloading
the anniversary edition update because it didn’t like the accessibility
drivers.  Is this correct?
So, what is the best way to upgrade? 
So far, I’ve gone to Settings, and then to “Check for update.”  It tells me
that my system is up to date, but I guess that’s from the current Windows 10
and not the newer one.
I know I can tab to “Learn More” and download it that way, but is this the
way that people advise against?
If this has already been discussed, then someone can write me off list with
specific instructions.
Thanks much as always.

Jim


Google Chrome question

Lauren Snyder
 

For some reason, in my Outlook 2010, when I press enter on a link, it opens up in Google Chrome. I am trying to install my Office 365 and Jaws says to click on set up file at the bottom of the Chrome browser. How do I find this? I don’t find it in the usual way of arrowing up and down? How do I also change it so a link opens up in IE for instance instead of Chrome, which I do not know very well?


Re: Which version of office is best with Jaws?

John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
 

Hi: A couple months ago I posted a question about office 365 being
accessible with jaws and was told it is not. Has that changed?
Thanks.


Re: Which version of office is best with Jawss?

Jason White
 

Maria Kristic <maria.kristic@gmail.com> wrote:
Hmmm, I suppose that's a possibility as with any mainstream software, but it
hasn't happened in the year or so that I've had Office 365.
In addition, Microsoft have been issuing blog posts recently about the
accessibility improvements they have been making to both Microsoft Windows and
Microsoft Office.


Re: i tunes

André van Deventer <andredbsa@...>
 

Itunes seems to be a nightmare whatever you do.

 

Even purchasing the blindtunes scripts gives you rather minimal control over the program.  The only thing I use it for is to transfer audio and other books to voicedream.  Even that is  an extremely cumbersome process.  It seems to be a kind of hit and miss thing selecting the application onto which you want to transfer your content!

 

Regards

 

André

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of stintonjoe@...
Sent: 29 August 2016 02:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: i tunes

 

hi all

 

i have jaws 17 and  am trying to get it to  work with I tunes, now as far as I can tell jaws will read every thing in I tunes  apart from where my albums are stored, there jaws will read nothing at all, I got to where jaws says album table and curser around but  nothing is spoken.

I have updated I tunes but still nothing.

 

so if any one as any ideas I would be grateful thanks in advance Joe

 




Question about upgrading

Jim Portillo
 

Hello,

 

I would like to upgrade to the Windows 10 anniversary edition.  I’m currently using the latest version of JAWS 17 and last year’s Windows 10.

I thought I read somewhere that there was something wrong with downloading the anniversary edition update because it didn’t like the accessibility drivers.  Is this correct?

So, what is the best way to upgrade? 

So far, I’ve gone to Settings, and then to “Check for update.”  It tells me that my system is up to date, but I guess that’s from the current Windows 10 and not the newer one.

I know I can tab to “Learn More” and download it that way, but is this the way that people advise against?

If this has already been discussed, then someone can write me off list with specific instructions.

Thanks much as always.

 

Jim

 

 


posting on YouTube

Sandra Streeter
 

Hi, all,
 
I just got done watching a couple videos about The Carpenters, and wanted to make comments, but haven’t figured out how, with JAWS. Any direction, appreciated!
Sandra
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
The Little Prince



Re: copy screen short cut please remind me

 

Just for clarification, hitting the Print Screen key will capture your entire physical screen for pasting into any image editor.  Hitting ALT+Print Screen will capture only the active window, so if you have an error dialog that has focus when you hit ALT+Print Screen it is only that dialog box [the active window] that is captured.

There are times when one is preferable to the other depending on what you're trying to capture and share.
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: copy screen short cut please remind me

kory anderson
 

pressing the print screen key should work.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Furness
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 3:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: copy screen short cut please remind me

Running jaws 17 and windows 10
A window pops up and I wish to copy it and sEnd it to receive some help fixing the problem.


copy screen short cut please remind me

Mark Furness
 

Running jaws 17 and windows 10
A window pops up and I wish to copy it and sEnd it to receive some help fixing the problem.