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Re: what is application mode?

Page, Aaron
 

Hi Ann,

Application Mode is a mode that JAWS will enter when it begins to interact with a web application. Application Mode is designed to treat the web application as if it were a typical Windows-based program, and not as a web page. The advantage to this is that application-specific keyboard shortcuts will work without the need to use the JAWS pass-through, the disadvantage is that typical JAWS keyboard shortcuts (i.e. "H" for headings, "B" for buttons) will not work as these keystrokes are now being passed through JAWS to the application.

When using web applications that trigger JAWS' Application Mode, it is usually very helpful to learn keyboard shortcuts that are specific to the application in order to effectively navigate and use the application. You should also have some success (if the application is accessible) navigating the web application using tab and the arrow keys.

You can usually tell that you are entering an application as JAWS will announce "Application", and upon pressing Enter you should hear JAWS beep as if it just entered a form. The most frustrating thing about application mode (in my opinion) is the difficulty in getting back out of the application. I usually will press Insert+Z to set the Virtual PC Cursor to off, and then press Insert+Z again to turn the Virtual PC Cursor back on. After turning off and back on the Virtual PC Cursor you should again be able to use normal JAWS keyboard shortcuts. If anyone on-list knows a better way to exit applications mode, I would love to hear it.

You can practice using applications mode on this page: https://www.tinymce.com/. If you press "R" to move through the regions you will encounter the application region, at which point you can press Enter to enter applications mode and begin interacting with the application. This example is an HTML text editor called TinyMCE, which is a commonly used editor that uses an application region and is relatively accessible.

Hope this helps!

Regards,
Aaron M. Page, B.S.
EIT Accessibility Specialist
Accessible Technology Services, University of Montana
Phone: (406) 243-2082
E-mail: aaron.page@umontana.edu

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 6:52 AM
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Subject: what is application mode?

What is application mode, and how does it affect what I am doing?

Thanks,


Re: what is application mode?

larelishumate@...
 

I am, can you explain a little bit more about what you are talking about?
Laura



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On Jul 13, 2016, at 8:52 AM, "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

What is application mode, and how does it affect what I am doing?

Thanks,




Re: what is application mode?

Mario
 

Ann, I don't know what you mean by Application Mode", can you expand on what you're asking about?

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Subject: what is application mode?

What is application mode, and how does it affect what I am doing?

Thanks,


what is application mode?

Ann Byrne
 

What is application mode, and how does it affect what I am doing?

Thanks,


Re: Replacing older computer. What to do about installing JAWS?

larelishumate@...
 

I list, I heard a long time ago that you could only have licenses for three computers. Is this true? Because somebody had mentioned on this list that they use on it on five computers.
Laura



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On Jul 11, 2016, at 9:55 PM, "Mike B." <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Hi Keith,
 
From what Freedom Scientific has told me, you can have Jaws installed on several computers as long as they belong to you.  I have several versions of Jaws installed onto 5 different computers, & have never had a problem, except for running out of activation keys, which FS always reset my count.  So in short, don't worry about it, go ahead & install, & if you get a message stating you don't have any activation keys left call this number, explain the situation, & they'll be more than happy to reset your activation keys.  Call:  Activation: 1-727-803-8015.
Take care.
Mike
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Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: Replacing older computer. What to do about installing JAWS?

Keith,

         When I've needed to do this I've called Freedom Scientific Technical Support.  Typically I didn't even have to uninstall if I was willing to say (and I meant it) that the old machine was being completely retired and/or recycled.  You can, of course, uninstall.

         Typically, if they have this information from the user, they will reset your license to allow a replacement installation on the new hardware.

--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Replacing older computer. What to do about installing JAWS?

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Keith,
 
From what Freedom Scientific has told me, you can have Jaws installed on several computers as long as they belong to you.  I have several versions of Jaws installed onto 5 different computers, & have never had a problem, except for running out of activation keys, which FS always reset my count.  So in short, don't worry about it, go ahead & install, & if you get a message stating you don't have any activation keys left call this number, explain the situation, & they'll be more than happy to reset your activation keys.  Call:  Activation: 1-727-803-8015.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: Replacing older computer. What to do about installing JAWS?

Keith,

         When I've needed to do this I've called Freedom Scientific Technical Support.  Typically I didn't even have to uninstall if I was willing to say (and I meant it) that the old machine was being completely retired and/or recycled.  You can, of course, uninstall.

         Typically, if they have this information from the user, they will reset your license to allow a replacement installation on the new hardware.

--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Replacing older computer. What to do about installing JAWS?

 

Keith,

         When I've needed to do this I've called Freedom Scientific Technical Support.  Typically I didn't even have to uninstall if I was willing to say (and I meant it) that the old machine was being completely retired and/or recycled.  You can, of course, uninstall.

         Typically, if they have this information from the user, they will reset your license to allow a replacement installation on the new hardware.

--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Replacing older computer. What to do about installing JAWS?

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

HI,

 

I’m replacing an older computer, a laptop.

 

Is there a process I should follow that will permit me to install JAWS on the new machine? I have JAWS also installed on my desktop, and I understand installation is only permitted on 2 computers.

 

I’m aware with other programs, that one must deactivate or uninstall the program on the older computer to allow installation on its replacement.

 

I’ll appreciate any guidance.

 

Keith


Re: More complicated search and replace situations

Gudrun Brunot
 

Excellent, Brian. I've actually read about search and replace and special characters, but I wasn't sure I understood it right. Your explanation makes it crystal clear.



Gudrun

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 3:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More complicated search and replace situations

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 10:17 am, Gudrun Brunot wrote: "what I want to do is: search for right brace followed by any letter followed by colon followed by end quote followed by any letter followed by right brace."

Gudrun,

The search string you're looking for is: \{*:"*\}

Just to explain, since the curly brace is actually a character used as part of wildcard strings for other purposes, if you want to use one as a literal to search for you must prefix it with a backslash, which is referred to escaping the character. This is true for the other special characters, e.g., the question mark, which is normally used to denote any single character, but if you want to search for the question mark character you must escape it. If you look at the page I posted the link to previously the various special characters that are employed as part of wildcard strings, rather than being taken literally unless escaped, are shown and discussed at length.

So in the above search string, it searches for literal left curly brace followed by any number of random characters, with those random characters then followed by a colon and a double quotation mark, then followed by any number of characters terminated by a literal right curly brace.

You can use whatever you'd like as your replace string. I often use some really odd character, like the tilde, just because those are much easier to find afterward than, say space, and easier to replace with whatever you'd like. Of course, I only do this if there is some question as to what might get replaced. If you're positive that the format you specified is only going to match what you think it should then replace it with whatever makes sense to you.

--

Brian



A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

~ William James


Re: More complicated search and replace situations

 

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 10:17 am, Gudrun Brunot wrote:  "what I want to do is: search for right brace followed by any letter followed by colon followed by end quote followed by any letter followed by right brace."

Gudrun,

The search string you're looking for is:   \{*:"*\}

Just to explain, since the curly brace is actually a character used as part of wildcard strings for other purposes, if you want to use one as a literal to search for you must prefix it with a backslash, which is referred to escaping the character.  This is true for the other special characters, e.g., the question mark, which is normally used to denote any single character, but if you want to search for the question mark character you must escape it.  If you look at the page I posted the link to previously the various special characters that are employed as part of wildcard strings, rather than being taken literally unless escaped, are shown and discussed at length.

So in the above search string, it searches for literal left curly brace followed by any number of random characters, with those random characters then followed by a colon and a double quotation mark, then followed by any number of characters terminated by a literal right curly brace.

You can use whatever you'd like as your replace string.  I often use some really odd character, like the tilde, just because those are much easier to find afterward than, say space, and easier to replace with whatever you'd like.  Of course, I only do this if there is some question as to what might get replaced.  If you're positive that the format you specified is only going to match what you think it should then replace it with whatever makes sense to you.

-- 

Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Microsoft word 2007, and replacing tabs with a space.

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

That makes sense. Thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gudrun Brunot
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft word 2007, and replacing tabs with a space.

Carolyn: the reason you'd replace tab with space is that, in some instances, words would be strung together. So, the next thing to do to tighten things up, is to replace space space with space. This way, the few instances of two spaces inside a sentence would be fixed.

Contro-h, replace caret t with space, alt-a for replace all.



Gudrun

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 12:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft word 2007, and replacing tabs with a space.

I just need to ask why one would replace a tab with a space. I haven't kept up with the thread, but it keeps appearing, so I'm wondering what is the reason, and if it is a good one, if someone would repeat what has to be done to accomplish the task. Thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 10:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft word 2007, and replacing tabs with a space.

Bill,

I don't know why that click-through link would be considered too long, as that's what the tinyurl version gets replaced with. Interesting.

I can access that page whether or not I'm logged in to a Microsoft Account. I've never known of a Microsoft support page that doesn't allow open access.
--
Brian



A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

~ William James


Re: Microsoft word 2007, and replacing tabs with a space.

Gudrun Brunot
 

Carolyn: the reason you'd replace tab with space is that, in some instances, words would be strung together. So, the next thing to do to tighten things up, is to replace space space with space. This way, the few instances of two spaces inside a sentence would be fixed.

Contro-h, replace caret t with space, alt-a for replace all.



Gudrun

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 12:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft word 2007, and replacing tabs with a space.

I just need to ask why one would replace a tab with a space. I haven't kept up with the thread, but it keeps appearing, so I'm wondering what is the reason, and if it is a good one, if someone would repeat what has to be done to accomplish the task. Thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 10:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft word 2007, and replacing tabs with a space.

Bill,

I don't know why that click-through link would be considered too long, as that's what the tinyurl version gets replaced with. Interesting.

I can access that page whether or not I'm logged in to a Microsoft Account. I've never known of a Microsoft support page that doesn't allow open access.
--
Brian



A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

~ William James


Re: Microsoft word 2007, and replacing tabs with a space.

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I just need to ask why one would replace a tab with a space. I haven't kept up with the thread, but it keeps appearing, so I'm wondering what is the reason, and if it is a good one, if someone would repeat what has to be done to accomplish the task. Thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 10:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft word 2007, and replacing tabs with a space.

Bill,

I don't know why that click-through link would be considered too long, as that's what the tinyurl version gets replaced with. Interesting.

I can access that page whether or not I'm logged in to a Microsoft Account. I've never known of a Microsoft support page that doesn't allow open access.
--
Brian



A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

~ William James


Re: Navigating tabs in a web page

Page, Aaron
 

Hi Lex,

 

The navigation quick-key that should set JAWS focus on the tabs is “C”. Once you have set JAWS focus on the tabs, if you press spacebar or enter you should hear a beep, after which you can move between tabs via the arrow keys. You can then choose a tab by pressing spacebar or Enter. Press Esc to get JAWS out of the tab selection.  

 

While this is not always the case, many times with tabs JAWS will announce the tab title followed by “Use JAWS key plus Alt plus M to move to controlled element”. If JAWS announces this after the tab title, then you can press Insert+Ctrl+M (Desktop) or Caps Lock+Alt+M (Laptop) to set focus on the tab content panel.

 

Hope this helps!

 

Regards,

Aaron M. Page, B.S.

EIT Accessibility Specialist

Accessible Technology Services, University of Montana

Phone: (406) 243-2082

E-mail: aaron.page@...

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lex Semenenko
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 7:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Navigating tabs in a web page

 

Hi everyone, 

Could someone tell me what keystrokes I should use to navigates tabs on a web page? I'm talking about tabs within a web page, not separate web pages opened in different tabs. These tabs usually appear in the middle of web pages. 

Currently, I know how to read tab titles, but I can't figure out a way how to go from one tab to its associated content area. Also, once I'm done reading a tab's content, I want to go back to tab titles, switch to another tab, and then to read that second tab content. 

I am a web developer and now I help to build websites that are fully accessible to screen reader users.

Thank you so much,

Lex


Navigating tabs in a web page

 

Hi everyone, 

Could someone tell me what keystrokes I should use to navigates tabs on a web page? I'm talking about tabs within a web page, not separate web pages opened in different tabs. These tabs usually appear in the middle of web pages. 

Currently, I know how to read tab titles, but I can't figure out a way how to go from one tab to its associated content area. Also, once I'm done reading a tab's content, I want to go back to tab titles, switch to another tab, and then to read that second tab content. 

I am a web developer and now I help to build websites that are fully accessible to screen reader users.

Thank you so much,

Lex


Re: More complicated search and replace situations

 

Gudrun,

              I have seen this post and unless someone else jumps in first, I'll supply you with the syntax for the situations you describe later.  I've got other stuff I must attend to at the moment.  Rattle my cage by e-mail if I don't pop up again here this evening.


--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


More complicated search and replace situations

Gudrun Brunot
 

Hi gang: Hope Brian or some other tex processing titan out there can enlighten me. Sometimes, I get hold of some text material that contains stuff I just don’t want. Examples include some books I get from the Swedish answer to Project Gutenberg. Some of the books are scans, and, once I put them onto my BrailleNote, I see test strings like {Author:”Jansson}

 

So, what I want to do is: search for right brace followed by any letter followed by colon followed by end quote followed by any letter followed by right brace. And replace with nothing or a space. Often, I use a space as replacement string to avoid words being glued together. It is then easy to search for space space and replace with space.

 

What would be the proper syntax for any letter? Similarly, on rare occasions, for indicating any number?

 

Another situation: I get song lyrics from one of the instructors who teaches Irish songs at the music camp we go to every summer, Rob and I. It is a godsend that he does it, but it requires some reformating, so I can emboss the lyrics in braille and follow along. Most of that, I can accomplish farily effecintley by first replacing all occurrences of two returns with tso asterisks, all single returns with space, all double spaces with space until I get 0 results. At times, I have to use ^k (end of line), if ^p doesn’t work. In rare occasions, neither works, and I have to go to each end of line and take out what JAWS called space, but which acts as a carriage return. Then, things are more time-consuming if we’re dealing with a mighty, narrative ballad. Any idea what that character is?

 

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Re: Microsoft word 2007, and replacing tabs with a space.

Mario
 

I didn't have to login. the article showed up just fine once I surfed to the URL.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Monday, Jul 11, 2016 10:11 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Microsoft word 2007, and replacing tabs with a space.

I'm not sure why I needed a microsoft login, but I just used my hotmail
account as my login.

As far as the link goes, when I tried to put it into an email, it took
up more than one line.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
<mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>

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*Sent:* Monday, July 11, 2016 7:04 AM
*Subject:* Re: Microsoft word 2007, and replacing tabs with a space.

Bill,

I don't know why that click-through link would be
considered too long, as that's what the tinyurl version gets
replaced with. Interesting.

I can access that page whether or not I'm logged in to a
Microsoft Account. I've never known of a Microsoft support page
that doesn't allow open access.
--
*/Brian/*


/*A great many people think they are thinking when they are
*/*/merely rearranging their prejudices./*

* ~ William James*



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Re: Microsoft word 2007, and replacing tabs with a space.

 

Bill White wrote:  "As far as the link goes, when I tried to put it into an email, it took up more than one line."

Oh, that happens frequently.  Most e-mail interfaces these days are no longer disturbed by that.  So long as the line wrap occurs as a result of "long link" they still see the link as an uninterrupted string and linkify it correctly.  I do hate the appearance, though, which is one of the reasons is like to use text click-through for links rather than "naked" ones.  It also makes it clearer, at least to me, what the nature of the link target is for the reader.

But, in the end, I think anyone who wants to find that support page and the relevant content that's there can definitely do so at this point!!  The assistance is appreciated.

--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Microsoft word 2007, and replacing tabs with a space.

Mario
 

Brian's link works fine for me.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, Jul 11, 2016 10:04 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Microsoft word 2007, and replacing tabs with a space.

Bill,

I don't know why that click-through link would be considered
too long, as that's what the tinyurl version gets replaced with.
Interesting.

I can access that page whether or not I'm logged in to a
Microsoft Account. I've never known of a Microsoft support page that
doesn't allow open access.
--
*/Brian/*


/*A great many people think they are thinking when they are */*/merely
rearranging their prejudices./*

* ~ William James*