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Re: Jaws 16 and PDF unreadable document

Andrew J. LaPointe
 

    Hi, I use Robobraille.org all the time to convert empty documents from pdf and other hard to read docs.  You can send an email to convert@... and attach the pdf or whatever you have to the email and in the subject line, state what you want to have the conversion to be such as txt or doc.  Hope this helps.
I have pdf sent to me often and when I run it with the adobe program, it comes back as empty doc.  I send it to robobraille and 90% of the time, it get it back within 5 minutes.  Andy and Shubert
 

From: Bill White
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 16 and PDF unreadable document
 
Hi, Renette. If you can use your Internet Browser to go to
 
 
You can use this free service to convert any unreadable pdf to another readable format. Just upload your file of under 64 megabytes, follow the steps listed on the website, and robobraille will email you back the converted document within 30 minutes.
 
I hope this helps you.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 5:08 AM
Subject: Jaws 16 and PDF unreadable document
 

Hi All

My microwave broke; I purchased a new one; downloaded the manual which is a PDF from the Defy website.

Jaws only reads funny things that obviously make no sense.

How does one convert/change such a PDF to a one that Jaws can access with ease as is the case with many other PDF documents?

Thanks.

Renette



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Re: my name doesn't appear in posting

James Homuth
 

I can't reproduce this. Your name shows up as it should.

James,
List Admin

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: July-10-16 11:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: my name doesn't appear in posting

for some time, whenever I post/reply to this list, the post I recieve has
main@jfw.groups.io instead of my name. this also happens with another list I
subscribe to, obviously respective to the address to which the post goes to.
why does this occur?

however, I am subscribed to another list where my name shows up when I
recieve the post.


my name doesn't appear in posting

Mario
 

for some time, whenever I post/reply to this list, the post I recieve has main@jfw.groups.io instead of my name. this also happens with another list I subscribe to, obviously respective to the address to which the post goes to. why does this occur?

however, I am subscribed to another list where my name shows up when I recieve the post.


Re: What is script utility mode"?

Mario
 

"The JAWS® screen reader provides you with a powerful utility to quickly analyze an unknown application. This feature is called the Script Utility Mode.
When the Script Utility Mode is activated, the keyboard is placed in a shifted state. This utility gives you access to system level window information that you can use when scripting an unknown application. You can determine parent-child relationships, windows identifiers, and retrieve information about Microsoft® Active Accessibility® (MSAA®) objects."

-------- Original Message --------
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Sunday, Jul 10, 2016 9:39 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What is script utility mode"?

Pressing insert+Windows+JAWSCursor puts you into script utility mode.
When I move the arrow keys, it just says 'more characters, some
characters", "Most Characters", ... and doesn't seem to do anything.
What is it's purpose in life and how does a person make use of it.

I am trying to find a way to automatically RE-INITIALIZE THE SCRIPTS FOR
Eudora after I delete an item from a mailbox (listview). Currently JAWS
17 reads the graphics till I delete an item, and then it stops. So I
press insert+control+escape to re-initialize the scripts and it reads
graphics till I delete something else. Would scripts utility mode give
me a way to tell JAWS to continue reading the graphics even after I
delete an item from the mailbox????

Thanks


Re: Jaws 16 and PDF unreadable document

renette bloem
 

Thanks!!  Have already been to the site and have book marked it for future use.

Renette

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 10 July 2016 04:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 16 and PDF unreadable document

 

Hi again Renette. One other thing which I neglected to specify in my last email is that when you use

 

 

In one of the steps, one of the choices will be "Convert to accessible format". It is best to use this choice. It will not affect any of your other choices as to the type of document you will receive back in email.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 5:08 AM

Subject: Jaws 16 and PDF unreadable document

 

Hi All

My microwave broke; I purchased a new one; downloaded the manual which is a PDF from the Defy website.

Jaws only reads funny things that obviously make no sense.

How does one convert/change such a PDF to a one that Jaws can access with ease as is the case with many other PDF documents?

Thanks.

Renette



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The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

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Re: Jaws 16 and PDF unreadable document

renette bloem
 

It does!

I managed with ABBY Fine Reader this time, but will keep that option for future use.

Thanks!

Renette

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 10 July 2016 04:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 16 and PDF unreadable document

 

Hi, Renette. If you can use your Internet Browser to go to

 

 

You can use this free service to convert any unreadable pdf to another readable format. Just upload your file of under 64 megabytes, follow the steps listed on the website, and robobraille will email you back the converted document within 30 minutes.

 

I hope this helps you.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 5:08 AM

Subject: Jaws 16 and PDF unreadable document

 

Hi All

My microwave broke; I purchased a new one; downloaded the manual which is a PDF from the Defy website.

Jaws only reads funny things that obviously make no sense.

How does one convert/change such a PDF to a one that Jaws can access with ease as is the case with many other PDF documents?

Thanks.

Renette



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The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

http://www.eset.com



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Re: Jaws 16 and PDF unreadable document

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi again Renette. One other thing which I neglected to specify in my last email is that when you use
 
 
In one of the steps, one of the choices will be "Convert to accessible format". It is best to use this choice. It will not affect any of your other choices as to the type of document you will receive back in email.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 5:08 AM
Subject: Jaws 16 and PDF unreadable document

Hi All

My microwave broke; I purchased a new one; downloaded the manual which is a PDF from the Defy website.

Jaws only reads funny things that obviously make no sense.

How does one convert/change such a PDF to a one that Jaws can access with ease as is the case with many other PDF documents?

Thanks.

Renette



__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 13780 (20160710) __________

The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

http://www.eset.com


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Re: Jaws 16 and PDF unreadable document

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Renette. If you can use your Internet Browser to go to
 
 
You can use this free service to convert any unreadable pdf to another readable format. Just upload your file of under 64 megabytes, follow the steps listed on the website, and robobraille will email you back the converted document within 30 minutes.
 
I hope this helps you.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 5:08 AM
Subject: Jaws 16 and PDF unreadable document

Hi All

My microwave broke; I purchased a new one; downloaded the manual which is a PDF from the Defy website.

Jaws only reads funny things that obviously make no sense.

How does one convert/change such a PDF to a one that Jaws can access with ease as is the case with many other PDF documents?

Thanks.

Renette



__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 13780 (20160710) __________

The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

http://www.eset.com


__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 13780 (20160710) __________

The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

http://www.eset.com


Re: Jaws 16 and PDF unreadable document

 

I never using JAWS OCR reader, I'm using quite better things...

2016-07-10 16:53 GMT+03:00, renette bloem <renette@adept.co.za>:

No, will see how this works. Is quite a long document.

Thanks.

Renette



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Chaffin
Sent: 10 July 2016 02:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 16 and PDF unreadable document





Have you tried the PDF OCR feature in Jaws? While in the PDF file hit,
Insert plus Space Bar, after the sound hit letter O for OCR, and D for
document.

This will OCR the entire file and put the results in a separate window.



Now a lot of manuals are very graphical. For example, when giving you the
steps on how to preform a particular task, it will just give you a picture
of a button instead of putting the actual name of the button. So your
results will unfortunately just depend on how graphical your manual is.



Hope this helps,



Chris




On Jul 10, 2016, at 8:08 AM, renette bloem <renette@adept.co.za> wrote:

Hi All

My microwave broke; I purchased a new one; downloaded the manual which is a
PDF from the Defy website.

Jaws only reads funny things that obviously make no sense.

How does one convert/change such a PDF to a one that Jaws can access with
ease as is the case with many other PDF documents?

Thanks.

Renette




Re: Jaws 16 and PDF unreadable document

renette bloem
 

No, will see how this works.  Is quite a long document.

Thanks.

Renette

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin
Sent: 10 July 2016 02:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 16 and PDF unreadable document

 

 

Have you tried the PDF OCR feature in Jaws?  While in the PDF file hit, Insert plus Space Bar, after the sound hit letter O for OCR, and D for document.

This will OCR the entire file and put the results in a separate window.

 

Now a lot of manuals are very graphical.  For example, when giving you the steps on how to preform a particular task, it will just give you a picture of a button instead of putting the actual name of the button.  So your results will unfortunately just depend on how graphical your manual is.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Chris

 


On Jul 10, 2016, at 8:08 AM, renette bloem <renette@...> wrote:

Hi All

My microwave broke; I purchased a new one; downloaded the manual which is a PDF from the Defy website.

Jaws only reads funny things that obviously make no sense.

How does one convert/change such a PDF to a one that Jaws can access with ease as is the case with many other PDF documents?

Thanks.

Renette


Re: Jaws 16 and PDF unreadable document

renette bloem
 

Have done exactly that!
Thanks! A bit to long to OCR with Jaws - maybe.
Renette

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paulius
Sent: 10 July 2016 02:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 16 and PDF unreadable document

Or you can just convert that into simple txt document using AbbyFineReader.
Sincerely,
Paulius Leveris

2016-07-10 15:28 GMT+03:00, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102468@gmail.com>:

Have you tried the PDF OCR feature in Jaws? While in the PDF file
hit, Insert plus Space Bar, after the sound hit letter O for OCR, and
D for document.
This will OCR the entire file and put the results in a separate window.

Now a lot of manuals are very graphical. For example, when giving you
the steps on how to preform a particular task, it will just give you a
picture of a button instead of putting the actual name of the button.
So your results will unfortunately just depend on how graphical your manual is.

Hope this helps,

Chris


On Jul 10, 2016, at 8:08 AM, renette bloem <renette@adept.co.za> wrote:

Hi All
My microwave broke; I purchased a new one; downloaded the manual
which is a PDF from the Defy website.
Jaws only reads funny things that obviously make no sense.
How does one convert/change such a PDF to a one that Jaws can access
with ease as is the case with many other PDF documents?
Thanks.
Renette


What is script utility mode"?

Ann Byrne
 

Pressing insert+Windows+JAWSCursor puts you into script utility mode. When I move the arrow keys, it just says 'more characters, some characters", "Most Characters", ... and doesn't seem to do anything. What is it's purpose in life and how does a person make use of it.

I am trying to find a way to automatically RE-INITIALIZE THE SCRIPTS FOR Eudora after I delete an item from a mailbox (listview). Currently JAWS 17 reads the graphics till I delete an item, and then it stops. So I press insert+control+escape to re-initialize the scripts and it reads graphics till I delete something else. Would scripts utility mode give me a way to tell JAWS to continue reading the graphics even after I delete an item from the mailbox????

Thanks


Re: now, for an unrelated question

 

I'm using AdwCleaner, for me it's very fast and good anti-virus
scanner! All is done soon and fine! If you'd like to try it:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5mcclgawh54ohpe/adwcleaner_5.201.exe?dl=1
Thanks!
Sincerely,
Paulius Leveris

2016-07-10 14:50 GMT+03:00, R&J <ronjacq@epbfi.com>:

I use Avast and have used Malwarebytes Anti-Malware for several years.  It
is reasonably accessible, meaning you have to use the JAWS cursor to access
some functions on its menu.  The tray icon, invoked with "Insert + F11"
brings up an accessible menu from which you can check boxes to turn
functions on and off.

Ron K


Re: now, for an unrelated question

Sandra Streeter
 

So, Ron, are you using the free MB? At one time, before I had Avast, a sighted friend had installed it, but of course didn’t know about its accessibility features—and I had no experience with the system tray or the JAWS cursor, so I wasn’t much better! If possible, I’d like to go with it again, IF that’s the version your speaking of.
 
 
 
Sandra
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
The Little Prince


Re: Jaws 16 and PDF unreadable document

 

Or you can just convert that into simple txt document using AbbyFineReader.
Sincerely,
Paulius Leveris

2016-07-10 15:28 GMT+03:00, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102468@gmail.com>:


Have you tried the PDF OCR feature in Jaws? While in the PDF file hit,
Insert plus Space Bar, after the sound hit letter O for OCR, and D for
document.
This will OCR the entire file and put the results in a separate window.

Now a lot of manuals are very graphical. For example, when giving you the
steps on how to preform a particular task, it will just give you a picture
of a button instead of putting the actual name of the button. So your
results will unfortunately just depend on how graphical your manual is.

Hope this helps,

Chris


On Jul 10, 2016, at 8:08 AM, renette bloem <renette@adept.co.za> wrote:

Hi All
My microwave broke; I purchased a new one; downloaded the manual which is
a PDF from the Defy website.
Jaws only reads funny things that obviously make no sense.
How does one convert/change such a PDF to a one that Jaws can access with
ease as is the case with many other PDF documents?
Thanks.
Renette


Re: Jaws 16 and PDF unreadable document

Chris Chaffin
 


Have you tried the PDF OCR feature in Jaws?  While in the PDF file hit, Insert plus Space Bar, after the sound hit letter O for OCR, and D for document.
This will OCR the entire file and put the results in a separate window.

Now a lot of manuals are very graphical.  For example, when giving you the steps on how to preform a particular task, it will just give you a picture of a button instead of putting the actual name of the button.  So your results will unfortunately just depend on how graphical your manual is.

Hope this helps,

Chris


On Jul 10, 2016, at 8:08 AM, renette bloem <renette@...> wrote:

Hi All

My microwave broke; I purchased a new one; downloaded the manual which is a PDF from the Defy website.

Jaws only reads funny things that obviously make no sense.

How does one convert/change such a PDF to a one that Jaws can access with ease as is the case with many other PDF documents?

Thanks.

Renette


Jaws 16 and PDF unreadable document

renette bloem
 

Hi All

My microwave broke; I purchased a new one; downloaded the manual which is a PDF from the Defy website.

Jaws only reads funny things that obviously make no sense.

How does one convert/change such a PDF to a one that Jaws can access with ease as is the case with many other PDF documents?

Thanks.

Renette


Re: now, for an unrelated question

R&J
 

I use Avast and have used Malwarebytes Anti-Malware for several years.  It is reasonably accessible, meaning you have to use the JAWS cursor to access some functions on its menu.  The tray icon, invoked with "Insert + F11" brings up an accessible menu from which you can check boxes to turn functions on and off.


Ron K


Re: now, for an unrelated question

"Kevin Hourigan " <kevinthourigan@...>
 

I have heard that multiple malware programs may conflict with each other, but that is beyond my expertise.

Cheers Kevin.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: July 8, 2016 9:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: now, for an unrelated question

 

Thanks to the person who instructed me on how to delete the OB icon from my start-up menu. I haven’t yet had the chance to learn whether that worked—but will find out tomorrow when I turn on my computer.

 

Now, to an unrelated question. I’m looking for a free anti-malware program that is accessible to JAWS, to work in conjunction with Avast. Any recommendations? I am totally blind, so obviously can’t access anything visually, and have very limited sighted support, so whatever can be used most independently would be appreciated. Thanks!

 

 

 

Sandra
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
The Little Prince

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: now, for an unrelated question

Mario
 

Sandra, you really shouldn't use 2 or more antivirus programs because they will conflict with each other, on the other hand, having 1 or more antimalware program such as for spyware and other nasties shouldn't create a problem (MalwareBytes Antimalware, and others). however, the more anti malware programs you use increase the chances that critical files may be misidentified as malware and quaranteened, thus slowing down the time it takes for the operating system to boot your computer and for programs to properly work.
be aware that most antivirus programs/suites, these days, generally include their own mechanisms for handling other types of malware and employ other types of protection.

------- Original Message --------
From: Sandra Streeter [mailto:sandrastreeter381@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, Jul 9, 2016 12:10:48 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: now, for an unrelated question

Thanks to the person who instructed me on how to delete the OB icon from
my start-up menu. I haven’t yet had the chance to learn whether that
worked—but will find out tomorrow when I turn on my computer.

Now, to an unrelated question. I’m looking for a free anti-malware
program that is accessible to JAWS, to work in conjunction with Avast.
Any recommendations? I am totally blind, so obviously can’t access
anything visually, and have very limited sighted support, so whatever
can be used most independently would be appreciated. Thanks!



Sandra
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential
is invisible to the eye." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
The Little Prince

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