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Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

sandy stegmayer <ssteg@...>
 

Brandon,

What is this and where does it come from?

Thanks,
Sandy


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From: "Brandon Keith Biggs" <brandonboy13@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 7:43 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Hello,
Have you tried using:
http://EmpowermentZone.com/p2tsetup.exe

Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
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From: Rick Miller
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

I have saved it to my Local Disc C drive in a folder I created which I
called Benefits.


Rick Miller


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From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi Rick,

Have you saved the handbook yet? If so, where (in your document folder? desktop?, etc). Let me know and I'll tell you how to get to it in Kurzweil. I just tried to write out directions for an example and I am afraid it might confuse you if you do not have the file in your documents folder. Once we get this figure this out, you will be able to get to and open any of your files in Kurzweil.
Sandy

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From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:41 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Sandy:

How do you open a document in the Kurzweil program? I have Kurzweil, but the only way I know how to open a file in the Kurzweil program is to open one of the Kurzweil files I have scanned and saved in that format. I have never opened another file in a different format using Kurzweil. How do you do that?

Rick Miller


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Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Rick,

I too have had this problem. What I do is first save the PDF to my computer and then close it. Next I open it on my computer and then I can save it as a text file by hitting alt-f and follow this with the letter v. Once I have it in text I can usually go through it without any problem. Another way to convert it is if you have Kurzweil, it will automatically convert it when you open the document in the program.

Sandy


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From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:35 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Adrian:

Often when I do a JAWS Find after I get to the page I want to go to, it doesn't find the text, I hear a beep, then afterwards JAWS won't work on the page at all. It is just as if the screen were frozen.


Rick Miller


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Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:29 PM
Subject: RE: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi, Rick.

After you click on the link, do you navigate down the page in search of that
text? I find such webpages operate inconsistently, but usually (not always)
the text I want appears further down. Sometimes a JAWS find for the heading
gets me there. Other times, it takes the down arrow key and navigation
commands such as p an n.

However, on one website I use frequently, the text doesn't appear at all to
JAWS, even though it's on the screen, and none of my PDF tactics works. I
hope that isn't the case for you in this instance.

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Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:49 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Reading a Book in PDF Format

This year, my employer, instead of sending out a print copy of its open
enrollment handbook with the summary of medical benefits for 2012, has made
its open enrollment handbook available only online, and I am having a
terrible time navigating it. Whenever I go to the link in the Table of
Contents for the page I want to read, I hit the Enter key and wait for the
page to load. But when it does, I always find myself still on the Table of
Contents page instead of on the page I really want to read. Am I doing
something wrong, or is the handbook in such a format that JAWS can't read
it?


Rick Miller

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Research It was a few questions:

Joni Colver <earlybird@...>
 

Speaking of Research It, I have had some success with several categories,
but no success with others. I have used the amazon, area code, weather, and
some of the news sites. I can't get any results with the wiktionary,
wikipedia or MLB choices. I am using JAWS 12. Any hints for more success?
Thanks.

Joni

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Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 11:56 PM
Subject: a few questions:


Hi blake One feature you will like in jaws is called research it. And if you
like sports it has a few neat gadgets for sports.

Kenny Peyatt


a few questions:

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

Hi blake One feature you will like in jaws is called research it. And if you
like sports it has a few neat gadgets for sports.

Kenny Peyatt

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Re: Pitch changes not holding in Eloquence.

ptusing <ptusing@...>
 

Hi,
Yes, thanks.
I am doing that.

Also I not only changed the P C cursor voice , buti changed the pitch (raising it)
for the "Menu" and for the "keyboard" cursors as thetech support peopletold me.

In Windows Explorer, I have many folders of information which read badly.

Using Access 32, the folders read much better.
Tell me. I changed 3 of the 4 cursors towhat I wanted and
I am stuck with the lousy JAWS-cursor sound
when I go through those folders in Explorer.

Also links on the web also
are read without the intonation or pitchI had hoped for.
This is why a global pitch option for Eloquence would be so helpful.

My hearing tends toward higher frequencies and that is common.

Access 32 had a global adjustment.
Windows 7 is not going to be a fun experience
without the right pitch in Eloquence.

I realize many like Eloquence. In X P, we had so many more optionsfor synthesizers.

Please do not bring up REal Speak; there reading speeds are not competitive in real world of work. The wordsandsounds mush together at 200 words per minute.

I needa global adjustment for Eloquence.

Many thanks!!!!

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From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 1:16 AM
Subject: Re: Pitch changes not holding in Eloquence.


Works fine for me, any version of JAWS.
Are you changing the pitch in the following way:

Insert+J
Options
Voices
Voice Adjustments
Then make sure you do a "Save As" so you keep your settings.

Otherwise the default will return.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 17:50
Subject: Pitch changes not holding in Eloquence.


Hi,



I have worked at this for hours.

Often the changes I make in Individual voices using Eloquence do not hold.

This is in various JAWS versions.



When I used Access 32, I could ajust the pitch and the changes would
stic

Because one could adjust the pitch globally!!





1. I changed the pitch for the PC voice option. .

Often

WhenI leftarrow, the pitch changes that I assigned for the P C voice
option do not hold.



2. When I read by whole word, the changes made for the PC

option never work.

I am stuck with the sound of the JAWS voice pitch.





3. When up arrowing the PC voice pitch changes I make often may or may
not hold.

I am stuck with the JAWS voice.



4. There appears to be no global way to keep the same pitch using
Eloquenceas there is "under" GLOBAL, no pitch slider whatsoever!





5. I must go through hundreds of file or document names like very long
file names.

The correct pitch which I adopt for the PC voice fail every time.



Because reading file names and document names is vital, I need to
understand clearly acronyms or abbreviations such

As a shortened series or words in a document name. The document names read
perfectly using Access 32. a The PC voice is not available to me hence the
acronyms in document names can mush



Many people shorten words in naming documents which read perfectly using
Access 32.



This last issue is most bothersome s I rely on clear reading of document
names.

And need clear reading of numbers and specifications.



How can one get the PC voice pitch for use in the reading long file or
document names?





Thanks.

Need a solution.






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Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

sandy stegmayer <ssteg@...>
 

HiRick,

Okay. In Kurzweil do a cntrl-O
Now do a shft-tab and you should hear "the selected folder is general"
Hit the left arrow key untill you hear "c, contains folders"
Hit the right arrow once and you are now in a list of your c folders
Arrow down untill you find your benefits folder and then hit enter. Voila! Kurzweil should start converting your PDF file to a KES file
You can then save it in whatever format you like. I usually choose plain text .
If benefits is not in that list, it is a subfolder of one of the ones lissted. Mosst of mine are in the "users" folder. By arrowing around, you can find any file on your computer and open it in Kurzweil.
If this doesn't work for you, let me know.
Although Kurzweil does convert PDFs, I prefer to use the accessibility conversion program from Adobe because it seems to work faster than Kurzweil.
Good luck,
Sandy

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From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 7:38 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

I have saved it to my Local Disc C drive in a folder I created which I called Benefits.


Rick Miller


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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi Rick,

Have you saved the handbook yet? If so, where (in your document folder? desktop?, etc). Let me know and I'll tell you how to get to it in Kurzweil. I just tried to write out directions for an example and I am afraid it might confuse you if you do not have the file in your documents folder. Once we get this figure this out, you will be able to get to and open any of your files in Kurzweil.
Sandy

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From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:41 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Sandy:

How do you open a document in the Kurzweil program? I have Kurzweil, but the only way I know how to open a file in the Kurzweil program is to open one of the Kurzweil files I have scanned and saved in that format. I have never opened another file in a different format using Kurzweil. How do you do that?

Rick Miller


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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Rick,

I too have had this problem. What I do is first save the PDF to my computer and then close it. Next I open it on my computer and then I can save it as a text file by hitting alt-f and follow this with the letter v. Once I have it in text I can usually go through it without any problem. Another way to convert it is if you have Kurzweil, it will automatically convert it when you open the document in the program.

Sandy


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From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:35 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Adrian:

Often when I do a JAWS Find after I get to the page I want to go to, it doesn't find the text, I hear a beep, then afterwards JAWS won't work on the page at all. It is just as if the screen were frozen.


Rick Miller


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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:29 PM
Subject: RE: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi, Rick.

After you click on the link, do you navigate down the page in search of that
text? I find such webpages operate inconsistently, but usually (not always)
the text I want appears further down. Sometimes a JAWS find for the heading
gets me there. Other times, it takes the down arrow key and navigation
commands such as p an n.

However, on one website I use frequently, the text doesn't appear at all to
JAWS, even though it's on the screen, and none of my PDF tactics works. I
hope that isn't the case for you in this instance.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:49 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Reading a Book in PDF Format

This year, my employer, instead of sending out a print copy of its open
enrollment handbook with the summary of medical benefits for 2012, has made
its open enrollment handbook available only online, and I am having a
terrible time navigating it. Whenever I go to the link in the Table of
Contents for the page I want to read, I hit the Enter key and wait for the
page to load. But when it does, I always find myself still on the Table of
Contents page instead of on the page I really want to read. Am I doing
something wrong, or is the handbook in such a format that JAWS can't read
it?


Rick Miller

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Re: several questions

Blake <blake@...>
 

Thanks very much.

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Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: several questions


the first jaws has a thing in researcher that can help with the first. doing insert down arrow you can read the document. get the jaws beta 13 from freedom scientific. Also jaws 13 has basic training files that you can listen or read.

-----Original Message-----
From: Blake
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 6:27 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: several questions

Dear all,

I am currently using Window Eyes, and intend to switch to Jaws before the end of the year.

I was just wondering a few things that some people on this list may be able to assist me with.


1. How do I obtain a quote (in Australian dollars) to purchase the latest version?

2. How do I read from start to finish of a document/webpage?

3. What are some general keyboard shortcuts that it is handy to know about?

I am a first-time poster to this list, so if you could please indicate you have read it by ticking yes to the dialog box in this message, that would be simply fantastic!!

Cheers, Blake Ison, Sunshine coast, Queensland, Australia.
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Re: several questions

Blake <blake@...>
 

Thanks a lot for this, it is much appreciated.

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: several questions


Blake,

Welcome aboard.

1. How do I obtain a quote (in Australian dollars) to purchase the latest
version?

- Not sure in your region. There may be a dealer for Freedom Scientific, and
I recommend you work through them for your purchases, licenses, etc. If you
send a question to Freedom Scientific via support@freedomscientific.com you
should get an answer in a business day's time.

2. How do I read from start to finish of a document/webpage?

- JAWS uses the numpad keys a lot in its general reading commands. Also
alternate commands are used on a laptop. Reading a web page top-to-bottom
can actually occur automatically if you have JAWS set to its defaults. But
as another lister has said Insert with the numpad downarrow (2) is one way
to read the whole page.

- Also in web pages there are several single-letter commands that jump you
to links, tables, lists, headings, non-links, etc. Very efficient way to get
to the important parts of a web page. JAWS also has a feature that allows it
to automatically revert to edit mode when you land on a form field.

3. What are some general keyboard shortcuts that it is handy to know about?

- That's a hard question. Reading the current line is Insert+uparrow.
Reading the previous word or punctuation is Insert+leftarrow. Reading down a
page line-by-line is just the downarrow. Again the Insert+xxx are on the
numpad. but just reading line-by-line could be either the numpad downarrow
or the cursor downarrow. Again the numpad is used a lot but there are also
alternates on a laptop keyboard. Best suggestion is that you download the
current JAWS 12 demo file from the web site. I know that someone said to
download the latest JAWS 13 beta, but that will convert to a released
product soon and then will revert to the same demo mode. For just starting,
there's no point in overloading you with beta issues.

- You didn't tell us what operating system you're using. I'm presuming
Windows but which? Running XP Pro or Windows 7 Pro/Enterprise/Ultimate all
require JAWS Professional, which is more expensive. You need to decide that
before you jump in.

- The web site is www.freedomscientific.com and to get to the JAWS demo
click on "blindness products" "downloads" "JAWS" and then you should be on
the page with the JAWS 12 free demo download. The demo will run 40 minutes
and then you need to reboot to do some more. A bit irritating, but gives you
an idea.

I am a first-time poster to this list, so if you could please indicate you
have read it by ticking yes to the dialog box in this message, that would be
simply fantastic!!

D- don't know about a dialog box, so you will have to accept my word of
honor that I read your message.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 04:27
Subject: several questions


Dear all,

I am currently using Window Eyes, and intend to switch to Jaws before the
end of the year.

I was just wondering a few things that some people on this list may be able
to assist me with.


1. How do I obtain a quote (in Australian dollars) to purchase the latest
version?

2. How do I read from start to finish of a document/webpage?

3. What are some general keyboard shortcuts that it is handy to know about?

I am a first-time poster to this list, so if you could please indicate you
have read it by ticking yes to the dialog box in this message, that would be
simply fantastic!!

Cheers, Blake Ison, Sunshine coast, Queensland, Australia.
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Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonboy13@...>
 

Hello,
Have you tried using:
http://EmpowermentZone.com/p2tsetup.exe

Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Miller
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

I have saved it to my Local Disc C drive in a folder I created which I
called Benefits.


Rick Miller


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From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi Rick,

Have you saved the handbook yet? If so, where (in your document folder? desktop?, etc). Let me know and I'll tell you how to get to it in Kurzweil. I just tried to write out directions for an example and I am afraid it might confuse you if you do not have the file in your documents folder. Once we get this figure this out, you will be able to get to and open any of your files in Kurzweil.
Sandy

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From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:41 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Sandy:

How do you open a document in the Kurzweil program? I have Kurzweil, but the only way I know how to open a file in the Kurzweil program is to open one of the Kurzweil files I have scanned and saved in that format. I have never opened another file in a different format using Kurzweil. How do you do that?

Rick Miller


----- Original Message -----
From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Rick,

I too have had this problem. What I do is first save the PDF to my computer and then close it. Next I open it on my computer and then I can save it as a text file by hitting alt-f and follow this with the letter v. Once I have it in text I can usually go through it without any problem. Another way to convert it is if you have Kurzweil, it will automatically convert it when you open the document in the program.

Sandy


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:35 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Adrian:

Often when I do a JAWS Find after I get to the page I want to go to, it doesn't find the text, I hear a beep, then afterwards JAWS won't work on the page at all. It is just as if the screen were frozen.


Rick Miller


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:29 PM
Subject: RE: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi, Rick.

After you click on the link, do you navigate down the page in search of that
text? I find such webpages operate inconsistently, but usually (not always)
the text I want appears further down. Sometimes a JAWS find for the heading
gets me there. Other times, it takes the down arrow key and navigation
commands such as p an n.

However, on one website I use frequently, the text doesn't appear at all to
JAWS, even though it's on the screen, and none of my PDF tactics works. I
hope that isn't the case for you in this instance.

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On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:49 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Reading a Book in PDF Format

This year, my employer, instead of sending out a print copy of its open
enrollment handbook with the summary of medical benefits for 2012, has made
its open enrollment handbook available only online, and I am having a
terrible time navigating it. Whenever I go to the link in the Table of
Contents for the page I want to read, I hit the Enter key and wait for the
page to load. But when it does, I always find myself still on the Table of
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something wrong, or is the handbook in such a format that JAWS can't read
it?


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Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Rick Miller
 

I have saved it to my Local Disc C drive in a folder I created which I called Benefits.


Rick Miller

----- Original Message -----
From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi Rick,

Have you saved the handbook yet? If so, where (in your document folder? desktop?, etc). Let me know and I'll tell you how to get to it in Kurzweil. I just tried to write out directions for an example and I am afraid it might confuse you if you do not have the file in your documents folder. Once we get this figure this out, you will be able to get to and open any of your files in Kurzweil.
Sandy

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:41 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Sandy:

How do you open a document in the Kurzweil program? I have Kurzweil, but the only way I know how to open a file in the Kurzweil program is to open one of the Kurzweil files I have scanned and saved in that format. I have never opened another file in a different format using Kurzweil. How do you do that?

Rick Miller


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From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Rick,

I too have had this problem. What I do is first save the PDF to my computer and then close it. Next I open it on my computer and then I can save it as a text file by hitting alt-f and follow this with the letter v. Once I have it in text I can usually go through it without any problem. Another way to convert it is if you have Kurzweil, it will automatically convert it when you open the document in the program.

Sandy


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:35 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Adrian:

Often when I do a JAWS Find after I get to the page I want to go to, it doesn't find the text, I hear a beep, then afterwards JAWS won't work on the page at all. It is just as if the screen were frozen.


Rick Miller


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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:29 PM
Subject: RE: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi, Rick.

After you click on the link, do you navigate down the page in search of that
text? I find such webpages operate inconsistently, but usually (not always)
the text I want appears further down. Sometimes a JAWS find for the heading
gets me there. Other times, it takes the down arrow key and navigation
commands such as p an n.

However, on one website I use frequently, the text doesn't appear at all to
JAWS, even though it's on the screen, and none of my PDF tactics works. I
hope that isn't the case for you in this instance.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:49 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Reading a Book in PDF Format

This year, my employer, instead of sending out a print copy of its open
enrollment handbook with the summary of medical benefits for 2012, has made
its open enrollment handbook available only online, and I am having a
terrible time navigating it. Whenever I go to the link in the Table of
Contents for the page I want to read, I hit the Enter key and wait for the
page to load. But when it does, I always find myself still on the Table of
Contents page instead of on the page I really want to read. Am I doing
something wrong, or is the handbook in such a format that JAWS can't read
it?


Rick Miller

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live messinger 15

Graham Smith <g.smith577@...>
 

Hi

I am using live messsinger 15 with a lot of success. However, I am having one very bad difficulty being that I cannot seem to add new contacts.

The problem seems to be adding people with earlier versions of messinger. I was able to add a contact that was using the same version, we did this by both simply just adding each other, all worked fine, there was no invitation or acceptance boxes involved.

I have tried to add another contact using an earlier version and I have this problem: they are showing in my off line list although they are online, they can send me a message and I receive it in the normal way, however when I try to reply I am told that the following messages could not be delivered.

I am aware of the show as off line options and think this is all good my end.

Can anyone shed any light on this please?

Regards

Graham


Re: several questions

Dave...
 

Blake,

Welcome aboard.

1. How do I obtain a quote (in Australian dollars) to purchase the latest
version?

- Not sure in your region. There may be a dealer for Freedom Scientific, and
I recommend you work through them for your purchases, licenses, etc. If you
send a question to Freedom Scientific via support@freedomscientific.com you
should get an answer in a business day's time.

2. How do I read from start to finish of a document/webpage?

- JAWS uses the numpad keys a lot in its general reading commands. Also
alternate commands are used on a laptop. Reading a web page top-to-bottom
can actually occur automatically if you have JAWS set to its defaults. But
as another lister has said Insert with the numpad downarrow (2) is one way
to read the whole page.

- Also in web pages there are several single-letter commands that jump you
to links, tables, lists, headings, non-links, etc. Very efficient way to get
to the important parts of a web page. JAWS also has a feature that allows it
to automatically revert to edit mode when you land on a form field.

3. What are some general keyboard shortcuts that it is handy to know about?

- That's a hard question. Reading the current line is Insert+uparrow.
Reading the previous word or punctuation is Insert+leftarrow. Reading down a
page line-by-line is just the downarrow. Again the Insert+xxx are on the
numpad. but just reading line-by-line could be either the numpad downarrow
or the cursor downarrow. Again the numpad is used a lot but there are also
alternates on a laptop keyboard. Best suggestion is that you download the
current JAWS 12 demo file from the web site. I know that someone said to
download the latest JAWS 13 beta, but that will convert to a released
product soon and then will revert to the same demo mode. For just starting,
there's no point in overloading you with beta issues.

- You didn't tell us what operating system you're using. I'm presuming
Windows but which? Running XP Pro or Windows 7 Pro/Enterprise/Ultimate all
require JAWS Professional, which is more expensive. You need to decide that
before you jump in.

- The web site is www.freedomscientific.com and to get to the JAWS demo
click on "blindness products" "downloads" "JAWS" and then you should be on
the page with the JAWS 12 free demo download. The demo will run 40 minutes
and then you need to reboot to do some more. A bit irritating, but gives you
an idea.

I am a first-time poster to this list, so if you could please indicate you
have read it by ticking yes to the dialog box in this message, that would be
simply fantastic!!

D- don't know about a dialog box, so you will have to accept my word of
honor that I read your message.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Blake" <blake@sailport.com.au>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 04:27
Subject: several questions


Dear all,

I am currently using Window Eyes, and intend to switch to Jaws before the
end of the year.

I was just wondering a few things that some people on this list may be able
to assist me with.


1. How do I obtain a quote (in Australian dollars) to purchase the latest
version?

2. How do I read from start to finish of a document/webpage?

3. What are some general keyboard shortcuts that it is handy to know about?

I am a first-time poster to this list, so if you could please indicate you
have read it by ticking yes to the dialog box in this message, that would be
simply fantastic!!

Cheers, Blake Ison, Sunshine coast, Queensland, Australia.
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Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

sandy stegmayer <ssteg@...>
 

Hi Rick,

Have you saved the handbook yet? If so, where (in your document folder? desktop?, etc). Let me know and I'll tell you how to get to it in Kurzweil. I just tried to write out directions for an example and I am afraid it might confuse you if you do not have the file in your documents folder. Once we get this figure this out, you will be able to get to and open any of your files in Kurzweil.
Sandy

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From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 5:41 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Sandy:

How do you open a document in the Kurzweil program? I have Kurzweil, but the only way I know how to open a file in the Kurzweil program is to open one of the Kurzweil files I have scanned and saved in that format. I have never opened another file in a different format using Kurzweil. How do you do that?

Rick Miller


----- Original Message -----
From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Rick,

I too have had this problem. What I do is first save the PDF to my computer and then close it. Next I open it on my computer and then I can save it as a text file by hitting alt-f and follow this with the letter v. Once I have it in text I can usually go through it without any problem. Another way to convert it is if you have Kurzweil, it will automatically convert it when you open the document in the program.

Sandy


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:35 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Adrian:

Often when I do a JAWS Find after I get to the page I want to go to, it doesn't find the text, I hear a beep, then afterwards JAWS won't work on the page at all. It is just as if the screen were frozen.


Rick Miller


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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:29 PM
Subject: RE: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi, Rick.

After you click on the link, do you navigate down the page in search of that
text? I find such webpages operate inconsistently, but usually (not always)
the text I want appears further down. Sometimes a JAWS find for the heading
gets me there. Other times, it takes the down arrow key and navigation
commands such as p an n.

However, on one website I use frequently, the text doesn't appear at all to
JAWS, even though it's on the screen, and none of my PDF tactics works. I
hope that isn't the case for you in this instance.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:49 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Reading a Book in PDF Format

This year, my employer, instead of sending out a print copy of its open
enrollment handbook with the summary of medical benefits for 2012, has made
its open enrollment handbook available only online, and I am having a
terrible time navigating it. Whenever I go to the link in the Table of
Contents for the page I want to read, I hit the Enter key and wait for the
page to load. But when it does, I always find myself still on the Table of
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something wrong, or is the handbook in such a format that JAWS can't read
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Re: several questions

Holger Fiallo <holgerfiallo@...>
 

the first jaws has a thing in researcher that can help with the first. doing insert down arrow you can read the document. get the jaws beta 13 from freedom scientific. Also jaws 13 has basic training files that you can listen or read.

-----Original Message-----
From: Blake
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 6:27 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: several questions

Dear all,

I am currently using Window Eyes, and intend to switch to Jaws before the end of the year.

I was just wondering a few things that some people on this list may be able to assist me with.


1. How do I obtain a quote (in Australian dollars) to purchase the latest version?

2. How do I read from start to finish of a document/webpage?

3. What are some general keyboard shortcuts that it is handy to know about?

I am a first-time poster to this list, so if you could please indicate you have read it by ticking yes to the dialog box in this message, that would be simply fantastic!!

Cheers, Blake Ison, Sunshine coast, Queensland, Australia.
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several questions

Blake <blake@...>
 

Dear all,

I am currently using Window Eyes, and intend to switch to Jaws before the end of the year.

I was just wondering a few things that some people on this list may be able to assist me with.


1. How do I obtain a quote (in Australian dollars) to purchase the latest version?

2. How do I read from start to finish of a document/webpage?

3. What are some general keyboard shortcuts that it is handy to know about?

I am a first-time poster to this list, so if you could please indicate you have read it by ticking yes to the dialog box in this message, that would be simply fantastic!!

Cheers, Blake Ison, Sunshine coast, Queensland, Australia.
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Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Rick Miller
 

Sandy:

How do you open a document in the Kurzweil program? I have Kurzweil, but the only way I know how to open a file in the Kurzweil program is to open one of the Kurzweil files I have scanned and saved in that format. I have never opened another file in a different format using Kurzweil. How do you do that?

Rick Miller

----- Original Message -----
From: "sandy stegmayer" <ssteg@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Rick,

I too have had this problem. What I do is first save the PDF to my computer and then close it. Next I open it on my computer and then I can save it as a text file by hitting alt-f and follow this with the letter v. Once I have it in text I can usually go through it without any problem. Another way to convert it is if you have Kurzweil, it will automatically convert it when you open the document in the program.

Sandy


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rick Miller" <mil9@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:35 AM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Reading a Book in PDF Format

Adrian:

Often when I do a JAWS Find after I get to the page I want to go to, it doesn't find the text, I hear a beep, then afterwards JAWS won't work on the page at all. It is just as if the screen were frozen.


Rick Miller


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:29 PM
Subject: RE: Reading a Book in PDF Format


Hi, Rick.

After you click on the link, do you navigate down the page in search of that
text? I find such webpages operate inconsistently, but usually (not always)
the text I want appears further down. Sometimes a JAWS find for the heading
gets me there. Other times, it takes the down arrow key and navigation
commands such as p an n.

However, on one website I use frequently, the text doesn't appear at all to
JAWS, even though it's on the screen, and none of my PDF tactics works. I
hope that isn't the case for you in this instance.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:49 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Reading a Book in PDF Format

This year, my employer, instead of sending out a print copy of its open
enrollment handbook with the summary of medical benefits for 2012, has made
its open enrollment handbook available only online, and I am having a
terrible time navigating it. Whenever I go to the link in the Table of
Contents for the page I want to read, I hit the Enter key and wait for the
page to load. But when it does, I always find myself still on the Table of
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something wrong, or is the handbook in such a format that JAWS can't read
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Rick Miller

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Re: What to do about XP machines

Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@...>
 

As I said win7 might be around for a while like xp and vista is still
around today or microsoft might change their mind basically forcing
those updating to get windows 8. I don't think microsoft will make the
same mistake with win8 as they did with vista, it caused them to much
damage in fact that's why a lot of people is still on xp because
there's this stigma about newer windows versions and that was created
by vista.

On 10/22/11, Dave Scrimenti <dscrimenti@comcast.net> wrote:
I know they don't care about us, but there may be some legal accessibility
requirements for certain government contracts that they do care about. Also,
if the corporate world rejects 8 like it did Vista, Microsoft will have to
keep 7 around longer than they want.
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines


I don't have any details but I know it won't work with jaws as it
currently is maybe not even with jaws 13 and not at all with older
jaws like previous windows versions did with old and new jaws. There's
something some mirroring thing used in windows which is assential for
jaws to work and microsoft didn't use this mirroring thing in windows
8 and apparently jaws rely on it quite a lot. As far as I've heard it
will take a total redesign of jaws to make it work with win8. I know
that the free screen reader NVDA is already very accessible with win8,
they are already doing beta testing and adapting it and there's only
some stuff that's not working think the other day they said it's about
90% accessible. As for getting hold of win7 when 8 is out, yes if
microsoft continues as it does at the moment it won't be a problem As
for you saying we'll get it if windows 8 is not accessible, just
remember we are nothing to microsoft, they'll make no exceptions to a
bunch of blind users which makes out 0.000000001% of their user base
they can do without our money and won't give a damm about us not
beeing able to use windows 8.

On 10/21/11, Dave Scrimenti <dscrimenti@comcast.net> wrote:
I'm hoping Windows 8 will be accessible when it's finally officially
released. I don't know. Have you heard anything one way or the other? I
don't think we'll have too much trouble getting Win 7, especially if
there's
no good access for 8.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy529@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines


Ok I get what you guys are saying why fix something if it aint broken
and if it works for you I guess I'm just somewhat of a tech junky I
like the latest and the gratest if it works for me of caurse. I wasn't
implying that win7 would be the last accessible windows I only ment
that win8 won't be accessible imidietly and microsoft may stop people
from buying win7 once 8 is out and if you have a problem then, or have
to upgrade from xp then you're basically screwed. It is unlikely that
microsoft will stop you from buying 7 once 8 is out but you never
know, a lot of companies stop you from buying older versions of
software once the newer versions gets released, they force people to
buy the latest versions. Microsoft didn't do this in the past, we can
still go out and buy xp, vista or even win 98 if you can find it but
you never know they might change their tune.

On 10/21/11, Dave Scrimenti <dscrimenti@comcast.net> wrote:
I agree Ted. And as someone who uses Total Recorder daily to record TV
shows
etc, I'm much better off with XP than with 7. Besides, Nickus actually
makes
good arguments against his own position. He admits that 8 will be out
soon.
So why get 7? I could be wrong, but I assume 7 won't be the last
accessible
Windows version. He also says: "one of these days new programs will
start
having problems running on xp systems". That's true, but it's not
happening yet with anything I'm running. So why anticipate it? And
some
programs, such as the one I mentioned, Total Recorder, run better
under
XP. To me, the only reasons to upgrade are if you're running something
that doesn't work well on XP, or buying a new computer, because Unless
you

build it yourself, it will come with an OS, and that will be 7.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines


I don't feel a burning need to explain my buying decisions, but I guess
I figure if it's not broken don't fix it. I don't usually do what the
industry tells me, but rather what works. It has nothing to do with
7,
which I would probably enjoy, from all I've read; it has everything to
do with losing a convenient configuration to a total reformat. I
think
Tech Republic had a piece a while back on an upgrade scheme involving
a
dual boot arrangement. Once there, after making sure everything
works,
simply remove the old OS. If HP offered an OEM version, I might
consider that, but there's no such animal.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

I personally don't know why people is still clinging to xp. I never
had problems with windows 7 and have been using it since its beta days
and it's really not such a big learning curve. If I were you guys
rather upgrade to windows 7 now before 8 comes out because right now
not even jaws 13 will work with windows 8 not even mentioning older
jaws versions and once windows 8 is out it might be difficult to get
hold of a copy of 7. I look at it this way, the world is moving on, so
should I. Adapt or die if technology moves on we as disabled people
can't stay behind. Plus, one of these days new programs will start
having problems running on xp systems, the developers won't put in
effort to make it work on a old windows version, if it works cool but
if not they won't brake their backs in trying to make it work.

On 10/19/11, Lisle, Ted <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> wrote:
After reading the list of fixes, I've decided to take the plunge
again,
but I'm not going to go to the trouble until the product release. I
was
wondering if service packs might make a difference. I don't remember
what I have at home; it's 2 here. As I recall the differences
between
2
and 3 were supposed to be insignificant, and good luck finding a
service
pack for XP now.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:46 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

I have used JAWS 11, 12 and 13 on a Windows XP pro machine with
Office
2007.
I haven't really had any problems especially since I got my newer
machine.
I did have the problem with Excel 2007, but I was able to fix that.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Any of you guys using Office 2007 or later with XP Pro? Please
contact
me off list.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert Westfall
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Same here Jaws 12 latest build on an xp pro sp3 machine. All working
just
fine.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Running JFW12 on an XP/SP3 machine with no difficulties.
Pat ByrneAt 11:38 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:
Ok, Steve. ... Thanks for the response.

I'm going to play it cool for a while here and see what other
feedback
I
get.

Actually, I think my time and energy this week will be spent getting
Jaws 12 up and running on the new Windows 7 laptop the University
will be giving me, so the XP thing can wait for a bit.

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <k8sp@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines


Tom,

While several people have reported issues, I've not had any and I
am running XP here with Jaws 12 Pro.

Steve,
Lansing, MI

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler"
<tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: What to do about XP machines


Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I
still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS
11,
even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches
us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still
an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at
home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they
are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which
seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with
my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7
laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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Re: What to do about XP machines

Dave Scrimenti <dscrimenti@...>
 

I know they don't care about us, but there may be some legal accessibility requirements for certain government contracts that they do care about. Also, if the corporate world rejects 8 like it did Vista, Microsoft will have to keep 7 around longer than they want.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy529@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines


I don't have any details but I know it won't work with jaws as it
currently is maybe not even with jaws 13 and not at all with older
jaws like previous windows versions did with old and new jaws. There's
something some mirroring thing used in windows which is assential for
jaws to work and microsoft didn't use this mirroring thing in windows
8 and apparently jaws rely on it quite a lot. As far as I've heard it
will take a total redesign of jaws to make it work with win8. I know
that the free screen reader NVDA is already very accessible with win8,
they are already doing beta testing and adapting it and there's only
some stuff that's not working think the other day they said it's about
90% accessible. As for getting hold of win7 when 8 is out, yes if
microsoft continues as it does at the moment it won't be a problem As
for you saying we'll get it if windows 8 is not accessible, just
remember we are nothing to microsoft, they'll make no exceptions to a
bunch of blind users which makes out 0.000000001% of their user base
they can do without our money and won't give a damm about us not
beeing able to use windows 8.

On 10/21/11, Dave Scrimenti <dscrimenti@comcast.net> wrote:
I'm hoping Windows 8 will be accessible when it's finally officially
released. I don't know. Have you heard anything one way or the other? I
don't think we'll have too much trouble getting Win 7, especially if there's
no good access for 8.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy529@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines


Ok I get what you guys are saying why fix something if it aint broken
and if it works for you I guess I'm just somewhat of a tech junky I
like the latest and the gratest if it works for me of caurse. I wasn't
implying that win7 would be the last accessible windows I only ment
that win8 won't be accessible imidietly and microsoft may stop people
from buying win7 once 8 is out and if you have a problem then, or have
to upgrade from xp then you're basically screwed. It is unlikely that
microsoft will stop you from buying 7 once 8 is out but you never
know, a lot of companies stop you from buying older versions of
software once the newer versions gets released, they force people to
buy the latest versions. Microsoft didn't do this in the past, we can
still go out and buy xp, vista or even win 98 if you can find it but
you never know they might change their tune.

On 10/21/11, Dave Scrimenti <dscrimenti@comcast.net> wrote:
I agree Ted. And as someone who uses Total Recorder daily to record TV
shows
etc, I'm much better off with XP than with 7. Besides, Nickus actually
makes
good arguments against his own position. He admits that 8 will be out
soon.
So why get 7? I could be wrong, but I assume 7 won't be the last
accessible
Windows version. He also says: "one of these days new programs will start
having problems running on xp systems". That's true, but it's not
happening yet with anything I'm running. So why anticipate it? And some
programs, such as the one I mentioned, Total Recorder, run better under
XP. To me, the only reasons to upgrade are if you're running something
that doesn't work well on XP, or buying a new computer, because Unless
you

build it yourself, it will come with an OS, and that will be 7.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines


I don't feel a burning need to explain my buying decisions, but I guess
I figure if it's not broken don't fix it. I don't usually do what the
industry tells me, but rather what works. It has nothing to do with 7,
which I would probably enjoy, from all I've read; it has everything to
do with losing a convenient configuration to a total reformat. I think
Tech Republic had a piece a while back on an upgrade scheme involving a
dual boot arrangement. Once there, after making sure everything works,
simply remove the old OS. If HP offered an OEM version, I might
consider that, but there's no such animal.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

I personally don't know why people is still clinging to xp. I never
had problems with windows 7 and have been using it since its beta days
and it's really not such a big learning curve. If I were you guys
rather upgrade to windows 7 now before 8 comes out because right now
not even jaws 13 will work with windows 8 not even mentioning older
jaws versions and once windows 8 is out it might be difficult to get
hold of a copy of 7. I look at it this way, the world is moving on, so
should I. Adapt or die if technology moves on we as disabled people
can't stay behind. Plus, one of these days new programs will start
having problems running on xp systems, the developers won't put in
effort to make it work on a old windows version, if it works cool but
if not they won't brake their backs in trying to make it work.

On 10/19/11, Lisle, Ted <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> wrote:
After reading the list of fixes, I've decided to take the plunge
again,
but I'm not going to go to the trouble until the product release. I
was
wondering if service packs might make a difference. I don't remember
what I have at home; it's 2 here. As I recall the differences between
2
and 3 were supposed to be insignificant, and good luck finding a
service
pack for XP now.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:46 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

I have used JAWS 11, 12 and 13 on a Windows XP pro machine with Office
2007.
I haven't really had any problems especially since I got my newer
machine.
I did have the problem with Excel 2007, but I was able to fix that.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Any of you guys using Office 2007 or later with XP Pro? Please
contact
me off list.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert Westfall
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: What to do about XP machines

Same here Jaws 12 latest build on an xp pro sp3 machine. All working
just
fine.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines

Running JFW12 on an XP/SP3 machine with no difficulties.
Pat ByrneAt 11:38 AM 8/21/2011, you wrote:
Ok, Steve. ... Thanks for the response.

I'm going to play it cool for a while here and see what other feedback
I
get.

Actually, I think my time and energy this week will be spent getting
Jaws 12 up and running on the new Windows 7 laptop the University
will be giving me, so the XP thing can wait for a bit.

Tom in Michigan


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <k8sp@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: What to do about XP machines


Tom,

While several people have reported issues, I've not had any and I
am running XP here with Jaws 12 Pro.

Steve,
Lansing, MI

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: What to do about XP machines


Hello, everyone.

In a recent post, I believe Adrian said the following:

"Many listers have reported flaws in JAWS 12,
possibly because it is more directed to Windows 7 than XP. ... I
still use XP Pro,
and the warnings on this list have convinced me to stay with JAWS
11,
even
though my SMA entitles me to JAWS 12."

The timing for this comment couldn't have been better in my case.

Although this is likely to change soon as my University switches
us all completely over to Windows 7, my desktop at work is still
an XP machine, and still has Jaws 11. The back-up PC I have at
home is an XP machine, and that too has Jaws 11.

So, is the collective wisdom of the group to keep things as they
are now on the XP machines, rather than installing Jaws 12 which
seems to be geared more to Windows 7?

If this is true, you guys have just saved me some head-aches with
my remaining XP computers, and I thank you sincerely for that.

I'll save my headaches for installing Jaws 12 on the new Windows 7
laptop the University will give me this week. (smile)

Tom in Michigan


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Re: Jaws in a call center environment

dave grossoehme
 

First of all you need to take each company in to account as to what applications they are using. When you have answered this question take the next step and see what will be needed to make Jaws work with these applications.
Your Friend Dave


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Brent Harding" <brent@hostany.net>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 3:50 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Jaws in a call center environment

Hi there. I've been thinking about getting into this line of work as well. I graduated a couple certificates in medical transcribing, but the market really fell out of that because of voice recognition, computers in the doctor's office, etc. I figured that working in a call center type of environment would be a good switch. I'm working with VR in Wisconsin and a job development person, but them and I are all stumped on the issues of Jaws customization, adaptations, etc. There sems to be little info on the net regarding what it takes to have blind people work in this type of environment. We have at least 1 or 2 distributers of Jaws, but nto sure if they do customization work like this. Where should I point the people I'm working with to hpefully make them better able to help me?

Thanks.

----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws in a call center environment


I work in such a setting. We have my phone and computer audio connected through a device. I have been helped trememndously by our in-house tech staff in consultation with the local JAWS distributor to have JAWS workable with or on-line data base. It's taken a lot of customizing, despite the software producer's insistance that the program is JAWs-Ffriendly.

Good luck.

Rob Hill CIRSt--Original Message-----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 8:02 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Jaws in a call center environment

Never tried working from home, although we floated the idea a while
back. The hang up was not JFW, but the soft phone arrangement. I
needed some sort of one-touch option for answering. By the time one
switched to the appropriate app, and fumbled for the JAWS cursor, that
call would be gone to voice mail. We never got the problem resolved, so
here I remain with my huge VOIP telephone with the easily accessible
buttons. This was to have been a contingency plan for bad weather, as I
work 50 miles from home.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mote
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:49 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws in a call center environment

Ted, thanks for responding. I'd be interested to know how well JFW
works in
a work from home virtual call center environment. I've seen jobs
available
with Alpine Access. I tried working with Cloud 10, and that didn't work
well at all. If you'd be so kind, I'd like to know first how to find
jobs
with companies that have software that works with jaws, and how JFW
works in
these situations.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 12:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Jaws in a call center environment

You'd better know it. I've been a Medicaid customer service rep and
trouble shooter since 1994, and a JAWS user since April, 1997. I'd be
glad to talk with you off list at either this address or
Tlisle@juno.com.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mote
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 5:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Subject: Jaws in a call center environment

Hi folks! I wanted to ask if anyone has ever used jaws in a call center
work environment. I may be taking a job soon that requires me to work
in a virtual call center. I'm really interested to see how jaws reacts.
Anyone ever had experience with this before?
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Re: What to do about XP machines

Marsha <marcatony@...>
 

HI
Since XP has been around for a while, how do we know that Windows 7 won't
be around after Windows 8 is released. Sounds like hype for selling new
products.

Marsha


Re: access with jaws

Ann Byrne
 

See the link below. One great things is that Thunder can run from a flash drive without adding *anything to the computer.
http://www.screenreader.net/

At 03:09 PM 10/21/2011, you wrote:
The other one mentioned here won't; got a URL?

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 7:13 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: access with jaws

Interestingly, the free thunder screen reader will read the text in
an Access field.
At 04:53 PM 10/20/2011, you wrote:
If you doubt whether Access is supported, check out the key strokes
for it under JAWS help. Most of them say "not available with access
2007". and of course that means 2007 and higher.


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