Date   

Re: which is better Thunderbird or outlook?

 

Mark,

           Another question I forgot to ask, and a good piece of information for recommenders to have, is, "What e-mail client or clients are you already familiar with and which did you like or dislike?"
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: which is better Thunderbird or outlook?

Tom Behler
 

Mark:

My experience with Thunderbird is rather limited, and comes from a work
situation in which I was involved in 2009 and 2010. At that time, I found
the menus, folders, and basic Thunderbird functions to be rather difficult
to carry out effectively with Jaws. Things certainly may have changed since
then, but suffice it to say, I was glad to get away from Thunderbird when
that work situation ended.

I have much more experience with Outlook, and have found it to be much more
compatible with the Windows operating system.

Just my opinion, for what it's worth.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark
Furness
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 9:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: which is better Thunderbird or outlook?

I will be using Windows if that makes a difference.
Thank you for your guidance
Mark F.


Re: which is better Thunderbird or outlook?

 

Mark,

           As far as I'm concerned, and having tutored both (and others) extensively, it's six of one and half a dozen of another.  Certain people find one or the other preferable but it's difficult to know which one unless you've tried both.  If cost is an object I'd either try Thunderbird or Windows Live Mail 2012 first, and I personally prefer the latter over the former.  Opera Mail was also very nice, and is free, but I cannot recall at the moment how accessible it is.

--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: which is better Thunderbird or outlook?

Feliciano G
 

I like the user interface better than Thunderbird Outlook seems more intuitive for me.

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On Jun 17, 2016, at 6:49 AM, Mark Furness <flintman57@gmail.com> wrote:

I will be using Windows if that makes a difference.
Thank you for your guidance
Mark F.



which is better Thunderbird or outlook?

Mark Furness
 

I will be using Windows if that makes a difference.
Thank you for your guidance
Mark F.


Re: Office 365 settings

Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...>
 

turn off live preview, turn off preview pain in outlook.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 5:14 PM
Subject: Office 365 settings


With Outlook in Office 365, what is the best way to set up reading email. Do I use the reading pane, or read mail in another window? Are there other settings that help Outlook work better with JAWS???

Thanks,




Office 365 settings

Ann Byrne
 

With Outlook in Office 365, what is the best way to set up reading email. Do I use the reading pane, or read mail in another window? Are there other settings that help Outlook work better with JAWS???

Thanks,


Re: Firefox Question

Tom Behler
 

Brian:

 

This file of instructions for fixing my Firefox problem is much easier to navigate than the one I was originally given, so thanks very much.

 

Thanks also to everyone else on the list for helping with my Firefox file access issue since the recent update to Firefox 47.

 

I think I have things working well enough on this computer, at least for now.

 

I have saved the MS word document that Brian sent, plus have added some additional clarifying instructions from other list members.

 

I appreciate everyone’s patience.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 7:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Question

 

Tom,

          Clearly, that page is not very well-written from an accessibility standpoint!!

          A lot of people are conflating the settings on the Options, General tab with regard to save behavior with the more complex Applications tab that allows much more fine grained treatment for downloaded or detached files by file type.

          Again, this forum/group does not allow attachments, so I am not directly posting the solution here.  However you can find it, with the attached step-by-step instructions as an MS-Word attachment, on the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users forum in the thread entitled, Firefox: Controlling Actions taken for Specific File Types by Firefox Itself

        I have previously asked the group owner to enable attachments here.  If others feel that this would be helpful then please do the same.  

--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Admin: List downtime midnight EST 6/18/2016

James Homuth
 

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Re: Force JAWS to use local Serial number instead of Network Serial Number

Brian Prewitt
 

Thank you, Aaron.  I looked on the laptop and the variable was not present at all.  I updated the JAWS authorization and now the single-user license is being used.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Page, Aaron
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Force JAWS to use local Serial number instead of Network Serial Number

 

Interesting. I am not aware of any other way to configure JAWS to use a network license besides via the environment variable. Are you sure you are looking at the system variables and not the user variables? The system variables are the second list in the dialog that appears. You also need to be logged in as an administrator.  

 

I also haven’t heard of changing the value to no-net, but I did find it mentioned in this software activation troubleshooting guide from FSActivate. It sounds like replacing the variable value with no-net will give you an error stating that there is an unknown server host.  Personally I would rather just change a character in the variable name. If you change the value then you need to be able to put it back when you want to reconnect to the license. If you just delete a character from the name, JAWS won’t recognize the variable and thehn all you have to do to put it back in order is to fix the variable name. Essentially you only have to replace a single character rather than an entire network path.  

 

Regards,

Aaron M. Page, B.S.

EIT Accessibility Specialist

Accessible Technology Services, University of Montana

Phone: (406) 243-2082

E-mail: aaron.page@...

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Prewitt
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Force JAWS to use local Serial number instead of Network Serial Number

 

I seem to remember Freedom Scientific mentioning this environment variable to me in the past.  However, I believe they said I could change the value to no-net?  I looked on my computer which is running Windows 10 with JAWS 17, and I cannot find this environment variable.  I am using the network license though.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Page, Aaron
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Force JAWS to use local Serial number instead of Network Serial Number

 

Hi Brian,

 

JAWS looks for a system environment variable for the network path where the JAWS network license is stored. This is the variable called “LSFORCEHOST” which you can view by going to Control Panel > System > Advanced System Properties > Environment Variables. It will be in the System variables list.   

 

If you remove or rename this variable, JAWS will automatically look for a local ILM instead of a network ILM. The problem is that in order to use the network ILM you must restore the variable and its correct value.

 

One solution would be to instruct the user how to go in and rename this variable. If you add or remove a single character from the variable name JAWS will not find the variable and will use the local ILM. When the user wants to use their own activation they can remove a character (such as the letter T from LSFORCEHOST) and then restart JAWS. When they want to use the network ILM they can restore the missing character and restart JAWS, which will then look for the network license. Here are the steps:

 

Remove network license:

1.       Open Control panel

2.       In the search field, type variable

3.       Select Edit the System Environment Variables

4.        Select the Environment Variables button

5.       In the system variables list, locate and select the variable named “LSFORCEHOST”

6.       Tab to and select the Edit button

7.       Remove the letter T from the end of the variable name. The result should be “LSFORCEHOS”

8.       Select the OK button to apply changes

9.       Select the OK button to close the environment variables window

10.   Select OK to close the System dialog

11.   Restart JAWS

 

Restore network license:

1.       Open Control panel

2.       In the search field, type variable

3.       Click Edit the System Environment Variables

4.        Click the Environment Variables button

5.       In the system variables list, locate and select the variable named “LSFORCEHOS”

6.       Tab to and select the Edit button

7.       Add the letter T to the end of the variable name. The result should be “LSFORCEHOST”

8.       Select the OK button to apply changes

9.       Select the OK button to close the environment variables window

10.   Select OK to close the System dialog

11.   Restart JAWS

 

If you really want to get creative, you could probably write a batch file that will do this from the command prompt. The SETX command with the /m switch will edit system environment variables. Just keep in mind that you must remove the variable or change its name in order for JAWS to not look for a network license. If you only change or remove the variable value JAWS will find a blank or invalid network path and won’t look for the local ILM.

 

It would be great if FS setup JAWS to look for a network license first, then fall back to a local ILM – or vice-versa.  

 

Regards,

Aaron M. Page, B.S.

EIT Accessibility Specialist

Accessible Technology Services, University of Montana

Phone: (406) 243-2082

E-mail: aaron.page@...

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Prewitt
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 7:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Force JAWS to use local Serial number instead of Network Serial Number

 

Hi List,

 

Does anyone know how I can force JAWS to use the single-user serial number on a laptop instead of the network serial number that we have?  JAWS goes into 40-minute mode when one of my users is off of our network.  Even though he has a single-user license installed on his machine.

 

Your help is greatly appreciated,

 

Brian


Re: Force JAWS to use local Serial number instead of Network Serial Number

Page, Aaron
 

Interesting. I am not aware of any other way to configure JAWS to use a network license besides via the environment variable. Are you sure you are looking at the system variables and not the user variables? The system variables are the second list in the dialog that appears. You also need to be logged in as an administrator.  

 

I also haven’t heard of changing the value to no-net, but I did find it mentioned in this software activation troubleshooting guide from FSActivate. It sounds like replacing the variable value with no-net will give you an error stating that there is an unknown server host.  Personally I would rather just change a character in the variable name. If you change the value then you need to be able to put it back when you want to reconnect to the license. If you just delete a character from the name, JAWS won’t recognize the variable and thehn all you have to do to put it back in order is to fix the variable name. Essentially you only have to replace a single character rather than an entire network path.  

 

Regards,

Aaron M. Page, B.S.

EIT Accessibility Specialist

Accessible Technology Services, University of Montana

Phone: (406) 243-2082

E-mail: aaron.page@...

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Prewitt
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Force JAWS to use local Serial number instead of Network Serial Number

 

I seem to remember Freedom Scientific mentioning this environment variable to me in the past.  However, I believe they said I could change the value to no-net?  I looked on my computer which is running Windows 10 with JAWS 17, and I cannot find this environment variable.  I am using the network license though.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Page, Aaron
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Force JAWS to use local Serial number instead of Network Serial Number

 

Hi Brian,

 

JAWS looks for a system environment variable for the network path where the JAWS network license is stored. This is the variable called “LSFORCEHOST” which you can view by going to Control Panel > System > Advanced System Properties > Environment Variables. It will be in the System variables list.   

 

If you remove or rename this variable, JAWS will automatically look for a local ILM instead of a network ILM. The problem is that in order to use the network ILM you must restore the variable and its correct value.

 

One solution would be to instruct the user how to go in and rename this variable. If you add or remove a single character from the variable name JAWS will not find the variable and will use the local ILM. When the user wants to use their own activation they can remove a character (such as the letter T from LSFORCEHOST) and then restart JAWS. When they want to use the network ILM they can restore the missing character and restart JAWS, which will then look for the network license. Here are the steps:

 

Remove network license:

1.       Open Control panel

2.       In the search field, type variable

3.       Select Edit the System Environment Variables

4.        Select the Environment Variables button

5.       In the system variables list, locate and select the variable named “LSFORCEHOST”

6.       Tab to and select the Edit button

7.       Remove the letter T from the end of the variable name. The result should be “LSFORCEHOS”

8.       Select the OK button to apply changes

9.       Select the OK button to close the environment variables window

10.   Select OK to close the System dialog

11.   Restart JAWS

 

Restore network license:

1.       Open Control panel

2.       In the search field, type variable

3.       Click Edit the System Environment Variables

4.        Click the Environment Variables button

5.       In the system variables list, locate and select the variable named “LSFORCEHOS”

6.       Tab to and select the Edit button

7.       Add the letter T to the end of the variable name. The result should be “LSFORCEHOST”

8.       Select the OK button to apply changes

9.       Select the OK button to close the environment variables window

10.   Select OK to close the System dialog

11.   Restart JAWS

 

If you really want to get creative, you could probably write a batch file that will do this from the command prompt. The SETX command with the /m switch will edit system environment variables. Just keep in mind that you must remove the variable or change its name in order for JAWS to not look for a network license. If you only change or remove the variable value JAWS will find a blank or invalid network path and won’t look for the local ILM.

 

It would be great if FS setup JAWS to look for a network license first, then fall back to a local ILM – or vice-versa.  

 

Regards,

Aaron M. Page, B.S.

EIT Accessibility Specialist

Accessible Technology Services, University of Montana

Phone: (406) 243-2082

E-mail: aaron.page@...

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Prewitt
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 7:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Force JAWS to use local Serial number instead of Network Serial Number

 

Hi List,

 

Does anyone know how I can force JAWS to use the single-user serial number on a laptop instead of the network serial number that we have?  JAWS goes into 40-minute mode when one of my users is off of our network.  Even though he has a single-user license installed on his machine.

 

Your help is greatly appreciated,

 

Brian


Re: Force JAWS to use local Serial number instead of Network Serial Number

Brian Prewitt
 

I seem to remember Freedom Scientific mentioning this environment variable to me in the past.  However, I believe they said I could change the value to no-net?  I looked on my computer which is running Windows 10 with JAWS 17, and I cannot find this environment variable.  I am using the network license though.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Page, Aaron
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Force JAWS to use local Serial number instead of Network Serial Number

 

Hi Brian,

 

JAWS looks for a system environment variable for the network path where the JAWS network license is stored. This is the variable called “LSFORCEHOST” which you can view by going to Control Panel > System > Advanced System Properties > Environment Variables. It will be in the System variables list.   

 

If you remove or rename this variable, JAWS will automatically look for a local ILM instead of a network ILM. The problem is that in order to use the network ILM you must restore the variable and its correct value.

 

One solution would be to instruct the user how to go in and rename this variable. If you add or remove a single character from the variable name JAWS will not find the variable and will use the local ILM. When the user wants to use their own activation they can remove a character (such as the letter T from LSFORCEHOST) and then restart JAWS. When they want to use the network ILM they can restore the missing character and restart JAWS, which will then look for the network license. Here are the steps:

 

Remove network license:

1.       Open Control panel

2.       In the search field, type variable

3.       Select Edit the System Environment Variables

4.        Select the Environment Variables button

5.       In the system variables list, locate and select the variable named “LSFORCEHOST”

6.       Tab to and select the Edit button

7.       Remove the letter T from the end of the variable name. The result should be “LSFORCEHOS”

8.       Select the OK button to apply changes

9.       Select the OK button to close the environment variables window

10.   Select OK to close the System dialog

11.   Restart JAWS

 

Restore network license:

1.       Open Control panel

2.       In the search field, type variable

3.       Click Edit the System Environment Variables

4.        Click the Environment Variables button

5.       In the system variables list, locate and select the variable named “LSFORCEHOS”

6.       Tab to and select the Edit button

7.       Add the letter T to the end of the variable name. The result should be “LSFORCEHOST”

8.       Select the OK button to apply changes

9.       Select the OK button to close the environment variables window

10.   Select OK to close the System dialog

11.   Restart JAWS

 

If you really want to get creative, you could probably write a batch file that will do this from the command prompt. The SETX command with the /m switch will edit system environment variables. Just keep in mind that you must remove the variable or change its name in order for JAWS to not look for a network license. If you only change or remove the variable value JAWS will find a blank or invalid network path and won’t look for the local ILM.

 

It would be great if FS setup JAWS to look for a network license first, then fall back to a local ILM – or vice-versa.  

 

Regards,

Aaron M. Page, B.S.

EIT Accessibility Specialist

Accessible Technology Services, University of Montana

Phone: (406) 243-2082

E-mail: aaron.page@...

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Prewitt
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 7:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Force JAWS to use local Serial number instead of Network Serial Number

 

Hi List,

 

Does anyone know how I can force JAWS to use the single-user serial number on a laptop instead of the network serial number that we have?  JAWS goes into 40-minute mode when one of my users is off of our network.  Even though he has a single-user license installed on his machine.

 

Your help is greatly appreciated,

 

Brian


Re: Force JAWS to use local Serial number instead of Network Serial Number

Page, Aaron
 

Hi Brian,

 

JAWS looks for a system environment variable for the network path where the JAWS network license is stored. This is the variable called “LSFORCEHOST” which you can view by going to Control Panel > System > Advanced System Properties > Environment Variables. It will be in the System variables list.   

 

If you remove or rename this variable, JAWS will automatically look for a local ILM instead of a network ILM. The problem is that in order to use the network ILM you must restore the variable and its correct value.

 

One solution would be to instruct the user how to go in and rename this variable. If you add or remove a single character from the variable name JAWS will not find the variable and will use the local ILM. When the user wants to use their own activation they can remove a character (such as the letter T from LSFORCEHOST) and then restart JAWS. When they want to use the network ILM they can restore the missing character and restart JAWS, which will then look for the network license. Here are the steps:

 

Remove network license:

1.       Open Control panel

2.       In the search field, type variable

3.       Select Edit the System Environment Variables

4.        Select the Environment Variables button

5.       In the system variables list, locate and select the variable named “LSFORCEHOST”

6.       Tab to and select the Edit button

7.       Remove the letter T from the end of the variable name. The result should be “LSFORCEHOS”

8.       Select the OK button to apply changes

9.       Select the OK button to close the environment variables window

10.   Select OK to close the System dialog

11.   Restart JAWS

 

Restore network license:

1.       Open Control panel

2.       In the search field, type variable

3.       Click Edit the System Environment Variables

4.        Click the Environment Variables button

5.       In the system variables list, locate and select the variable named “LSFORCEHOS”

6.       Tab to and select the Edit button

7.       Add the letter T to the end of the variable name. The result should be “LSFORCEHOST”

8.       Select the OK button to apply changes

9.       Select the OK button to close the environment variables window

10.   Select OK to close the System dialog

11.   Restart JAWS

 

If you really want to get creative, you could probably write a batch file that will do this from the command prompt. The SETX command with the /m switch will edit system environment variables. Just keep in mind that you must remove the variable or change its name in order for JAWS to not look for a network license. If you only change or remove the variable value JAWS will find a blank or invalid network path and won’t look for the local ILM.

 

It would be great if FS setup JAWS to look for a network license first, then fall back to a local ILM – or vice-versa.  

 

Regards,

Aaron M. Page, B.S.

EIT Accessibility Specialist

Accessible Technology Services, University of Montana

Phone: (406) 243-2082

E-mail: aaron.page@...

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Prewitt
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 7:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Force JAWS to use local Serial number instead of Network Serial Number

 

Hi List,

 

Does anyone know how I can force JAWS to use the single-user serial number on a laptop instead of the network serial number that we have?  JAWS goes into 40-minute mode when one of my users is off of our network.  Even though he has a single-user license installed on his machine.

 

Your help is greatly appreciated,

 

Brian


Re: Firefox Question

Mario
 

all this information from Brian, Tom, Bill and everybody is great. different points of view and explanations is very helpful.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Thursday, Jun 16, 2016 12:20:03 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Question

Also, Tom, regarding Adobe Acrobat Reader, it may not show up as one of
the selections until you click the "Use Other selection in the
Applications tab of Firefox.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
<mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@gmail.com>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2016 8:34 PM
*Subject:* Re: Firefox Question

Brian:



What confuses me, I guess, is that I have Adobe Acrobat PDF Reader
on this computer, and this no longer happens.



I would think that if Adobe Acrobat reader is on my computer, what
you describe should happen.



Not trying to be difficult here; just trying to figure out what
might be going on.



Tom Behler





*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Brian Vogel
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2016 10:57 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Firefox Question



Tom,

You will only be asked about opening the file if there is
some program or plug-in on your system dedicated to that file type.

I just changed my setting to "Always ask" for PDF files and
I now get a dialog box that asks if I want to open the file with PDF
XChange Viewer (default) or to choose another from a dropdown [this
is a single radio button with a dropdown associated] or to save the
file [which is a second radio button in the dialog]. There is also
a checkbox for "Do this automatically from now on" if you want to
make the choice you made with the radio button your default action.
--
*/Brian/*


*/A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely
rearranging their prejudices./*

* ~ William James*



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Re: Force JAWS to use local Serial number instead of Network Serial Number

James Homuth
 

The install process is different for a single license user versus a network license user. If it's booting him into 40 minute mode, then what's likely happened is he's not actually using the single license. That's probably going to require an uninstall and reinstall.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Prewitt
Sent: June-16-16 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Force JAWS to use local Serial number instead of Network Serial Number

Hi List,

 

Does anyone know how I can force JAWS to use the single-user serial number on a laptop instead of the network serial number that we have?  JAWS goes into 40-minute mode when one of my users is off of our network.  Even though he has a single-user license installed on his machine.

 

Your help is greatly appreciated,

 

Brian


Force JAWS to use local Serial number instead of Network Serial Number

Brian Prewitt
 

Hi List,

 

Does anyone know how I can force JAWS to use the single-user serial number on a laptop instead of the network serial number that we have?  JAWS goes into 40-minute mode when one of my users is off of our network.  Even though he has a single-user license installed on his machine.

 

Your help is greatly appreciated,

 

Brian


Re: Firefox Question

Mario
 

yes it does give you the option to open the file if you have the "always ask" option set for the application events.
there are about 19 events. I have all of them set to always ask except for the following:
mailto Use Thunderbird (default)
Podcast Preview in Firefox
Video Podcast Preview in Firefox
Web Feed Preview in Firefox
, in that Firefox will prompt what you want to do when FF encounters that event. for example, when you want to send a request for assistance to customer service, and the website uses the default client on your PC, mailto Use Thunderbird (default) is instructing FF to use Thunderbird to compose and send the email. for the other events, when FF encounters a zip file, FF will prompt you what to do because the setting for that event is to "always ask".

hope this helps.

------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016 10:35:36 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Question

Mario:

See my most recent list post.

And, I do have a question:

Do these options allow for simply opening a file if I do not wish to save it?

I couldn't find that option when I checked earlier.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 8:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Question

Brian, I hope you don't mind, but...

Tom, in addition to your and Brian's directions:
1, press the alt for the menubar, t for tools, o for options.

2. for JAWS, press insert+z and tab once. you should be able to down arrow to applications.

3. press tab 3 times. now you should be able to arrow thru a list of items that describe file types or events.

4. after focused on an event/file type,
press tab once. now you can arrow to specify what action you want Firefox to do when handling that file type. see step4 you provided.

5. don't forget to return JAWS to virtual PC cursor mode with an
insert+z. then press control+w to close FF's options.

note, there is no ok or close button to press. any changes are automatically saved when the session is closed.

also note NVDA will correctly adjust it's interaction with the list boxes listed here, so insert+z only applies to JAWS.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Jun 15, 2016 5:29:15 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Question

Brian:



Below are the instructions I found for changing Firefox download actions.



So far, as I indicated in my last list post, I have been able to change
the option to ask me where I want to save the downloaded file. I’m
hoping this will give me the option to open the file as well.



I don’t completely understand, and am having trouble getting to the
other options they suggest in these instructions, so if there is
something else you think might help, please let me know.



Here are the instructions:



Changing download actions



list of 5 items

1.

Click the menu button

New Fx Menu

and choose Options.



2. Select the Applications panel.

3. The Applications panel will display. Select the type of file for
which you want to change the default action.

Multiple entries for the same

file format or extension?

Some file types can include more than one Internet Media type.

4. The Action column will give you a drop-down menu, with options on
action to take, whenever you click that type of file.

definition list of 1 items nesting level 1

incontent pref 38

list end nesting level 1

list of 3 items nesting level 1

◦ Always ask: will prompt you to select what action you want Firefox to
take when you click on that type of file. This can be useful if Firefox
is automatically

saving a file type or is always opening it with a certain program and
you want to be asked what to do.

◦ Save File: will always save the file to your computer using the

Downloads window,

whenever you click that type of file.

◦ Open the file with an application or plugin of your choosing.

list end nesting level 1

5. Close the about:preferences page. Any changes you've made will
automatically be saved.

list end



Thanks!



Tom Behler





*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Brian Vogel
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2016 4:26 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Firefox Question



Tom,

What you are describing is the default behavior for
downloading files or attachments and it appears that your custom
settings were overwritten during this update. See this Firefox Support
Page
<https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/change-firefox-behavior-when-open-file>

for
information about how to change the behavior back to opening downloaded
files in the browser itself. It the page turns out to be poorly written
from an accessibility standpoint I will be glad to help you further.


Re: Firefox Question

Tom Behler
 

Ok, Brian.

 

Will see what I can do here.

 

One thing I’m going to check is whether I also get this behavior on my main Windows 7 laptop after updating to Firefox 47.

 

That computer is currently undergoing some maintenance and updating at my University’s I T department, and I should get it back later this week.

 

Right now, I’m on my backup Windows 7 desktop, which ultimately is going to be less critical to me once I get the newer laptop totally up and running.

 

Thanks for your help with this!

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 11:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Question

 

Tom,

             I'd try doing an install-over install of Adobe Reader and see if that fixes the problem.  Also, check in Windows itself to see if Adobe Reader is assigned as the default program for PDF files.

             The only reason I can think of for Firefox not seeing Adobe Reader is that the plug-in and program information got wiped, too, as part of the process that changed what had been the behavior you were seeing in the past.
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Firefox Question

Sharon
 

Thank you so very much!
Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 8:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Question

Sharon, you can use alt D in either Firefox or IE to go to a new web page. Ctrl T will allow you to open a web page in a new window and ctrl tab will allo you to go between the open web pages. Ctrl D will mark a web page as a favorite like alt A does in IE. Alt B is how I go to a favorite web page in Fire Fox. As with most things, there are several commands that will perform the same task.

On 6/15/16, Sharon <mt281820@comcast.net> wrote:
How do you even go to an internet address in Firefox? Having used IE,
I do not know where to start. I only want to read web pages and save a
few pages using Firefox but the keystroke combinations in the keyboard
shortcut lists seem confusing to me, like window, tab, file. Can
someone give me the basics? How do I open a web address like in IE I
use control o. and How do I save a file. In IE it's lalt-f a.

Thanks.

Sharon



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom
Behler
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 10:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Question



This should be good enough for me, Bill.



I just like to be able to control what happens with downloaded files,
rather than having them automatically go into my downloads folder,
where I then have to search for them.



Tom Behler





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 7:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Question



What it will do is say, "What should Firefox do with this file. There
will be two "radio" buttons. If you arrow up and down, one will say
open file, the other will say save file.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@gmail.com>

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 2:24 PM

Subject: Re: Firefox Question



Bill:



I just did this, so the next time I get an e-mail with a link to a
file, I'll see whether it askes me to save or download the file.



At least I should have more control this way.



Thanks much.



Tom Behler





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 5:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Question



Hi, Tom. In the Firefox General Options, there is a couple of check
boxes which say either, Save Files To Downloads, or if you arrow down,
Ask Me Where To Save Files.



If the choice is on Ask Me Where To Save Files, it not only asks you
where to save the file, it also allows you to open the file instead of save it.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@gmail.com>

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 12:32 PM

Subject: Firefox Question



Hello, everyone.



I have a question about something I have noticed since the last
firefox update to Firefox 47.0.



It used to be that when I clicked on a link to a file that was
included in an e-mail, Firefox would go directly to the involved file,
and I could read the contents of the file right there in the Firefox browser.



Now, whenever I click on such a file, the file automatically gets
placed in the downloads folder on my computer.



The confusing thing is that this happens without any indication from Jaws.



My sighted wife tells me that there is a blue downloads arrow at the
top of the screen that you can click on to open the file. But, of
course, I don't have a clue about that arrow, and how it can be accessed.



I have noticed the same pattern if I manually copy and paste the link
to the involved file into the Firefox Browser.



I'm curious if anyone else has seen this new behavior, and if there
are any settings I can change to get things back to the way they used to be.



Thanks as always!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan







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Re: Firefox Question

Marianne Denning
 

Sharon, you can use alt D in either Firefox or IE to go to a new web
page. Ctrl T will allow you to open a web page in a new window and
ctrl tab will allo you to go between the open web pages. Ctrl D will
mark a web page as a favorite like alt A does in IE. Alt B is how I
go to a favorite web page in Fire Fox. As with most things, there are
several commands that will perform the same task.

On 6/15/16, Sharon <mt281820@comcast.net> wrote:
How do you even go to an internet address in Firefox? Having used IE, I do
not know where to start. I only want to read web pages and save a few pages
using Firefox but the keystroke combinations in the keyboard shortcut lists
seem confusing to me, like window, tab, file. Can someone give me the
basics? How do I open a web address like in IE I use control o. and How do
I
save a file. In IE it's lalt-f a.

Thanks.

Sharon



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom
Behler
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 10:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Question



This should be good enough for me, Bill.



I just like to be able to control what happens with downloaded files,
rather
than having them automatically go into my downloads folder, where I then
have to search for them.



Tom Behler





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 7:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Question



What it will do is say, "What should Firefox do with this file. There will
be two "radio" buttons. If you arrow up and down, one will say open file,
the other will say save file.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@gmail.com>

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 2:24 PM

Subject: Re: Firefox Question



Bill:



I just did this, so the next time I get an e-mail with a link to a file,
I'll see whether it askes me to save or download the file.



At least I should have more control this way.



Thanks much.



Tom Behler





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 5:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Question



Hi, Tom. In the Firefox General Options, there is a couple of check boxes
which say either, Save Files To Downloads, or if you arrow down, Ask Me
Where To Save Files.



If the choice is on Ask Me Where To Save Files, it not only asks you where
to save the file, it also allows you to open the file instead of save it.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@gmail.com>

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 12:32 PM

Subject: Firefox Question



Hello, everyone.



I have a question about something I have noticed since the last firefox
update to Firefox 47.0.



It used to be that when I clicked on a link to a file that was included in
an e-mail, Firefox would go directly to the involved file, and I could read
the contents of the file right there in the Firefox browser.



Now, whenever I click on such a file, the file automatically gets placed in
the downloads folder on my computer.



The confusing thing is that this happens without any indication from Jaws.



My sighted wife tells me that there is a blue downloads arrow at the top of
the screen that you can click on to open the file. But, of course, I don't
have a clue about that arrow, and how it can be accessed.



I have noticed the same pattern if I manually copy and paste the link to
the
involved file into the Firefox Browser.



I'm curious if anyone else has seen this new behavior, and if there are any
settings I can change to get things back to the way they used to be.



Thanks as always!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan







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--
Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053