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Things that make you go hmm

Maria Campbell
 

JAWS and WindowEyes under the same umbrella?



--

Maria Campbell
lucky1@gmail.com

Rather than build a wall to keep others out, we must build a chain that links us together.


Re: JAWS and HDMI Question

Maria Campbell
 

I have so many fancy audio settings on my laptop, and I don't know what most of them do.  It could be simply a matter of changing a setting, but I couldn't begin to suggest anything.  Good luck.


Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Rather than build a wall to keep others out, we must build a chain that links us together.
On 6/14/2016 10:24 AM, Cathy wrote:

Hello,

 

I am trying to have projection and audio output to projection screen and sound system using an HDMI cable with my laptop. The issue I am having is that when the HDMI cable is connected, the audio does not work. It looks like JAWS (v 17) is moving around the screen yet no sound.

The HDMI cable was tested with another laptop that has JAWS 14 version and the audio worked.

 

Any suggestion are appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Cathy

 



Re: JAWS and HDMI Question

 

Cathy,

            I'd give Freedom Scientific Technical Support a call on 727-803-8600 weekdays between 8:30 AM and 7:00 PM EST, or send an email to support@... that gives precisely the same information you gave here.  If this is time critical I'd go the phone call method.

            Everything you describe suggests to me that this is likely a JAWS bug.  It may not be, but I'd run down that possibility first.

--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


JAWS and HDMI Question

 

Hello,

 

I am trying to have projection and audio output to projection screen and sound system using an HDMI cable with my laptop. The issue I am having is that when the HDMI cable is connected, the audio does not work. It looks like JAWS (v 17) is moving around the screen yet no sound.

The HDMI cable was tested with another laptop that has JAWS 14 version and the audio worked.

 

Any suggestion are appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Cathy

 


Re: Windows 10 Start Menu no longer recognized by the latest JAWS 17 update.

Gene Stevens
 

To uninstall jaws click on the .EXE command for your version of Jaws where ever it is located from when you downloaded it to do the initial install. After doing a bit of setup Jaws will offer you the choice to repair/modify/uninstall Jaws. Choose the uninstall option and follow the prompts.
 

Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:55 AM
Subject: Windows 10 Start Menu no longer recognized by the latest JAWS 17 update.
 
Thanks for all of your suggestions. I still have not fixed the problem that JAWS will not announce the Start Menu items. I know that the menu is opened and I know how to navigate through it.

All I can do is a repair. I have not found a way to completely uninstall JAWS 17.

I just sent this issue to Tech Support. The automatic response is now from something called VFO.

My last attempt was to reinstall using the latest j17.0.211enu-x64.exe. It started out with the JAWS setup but then I was given 2 options: modify or repair.

So now I have done the repair in two ways and the Start Menu, once opened, JAWS still does not recognize.

I can still right click the Start Menu button and arrow up and down with JAWS announcing most of the menu items. I can also use the file explorer to quickly access the most recently used items.

Now to wait for a response from the VFO tech support. Thanks again for all of your response.

Peter T.


Re: No success! to repair JAWS

Gene Stevens
 

In earlier versions of Windows 10 this was an occasional problem that I've seen. The issue wasn't with Jaws but with Windows. Try doing a refresh of the OS.

This will mean reinstalling everything of an applications nature but may well fix your problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Webster
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 1:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: No success! to repair JAWS

On 6/13/16, Alan Robbins <alan1057@me.com> wrote:
I would try calling freedom scientific

On Jun 13, 2016, at 08:34, Peter Tesar <ptesar@ca.inter.net> wrote:

The repair does not fix the problem. The WINDOWS key does not open the
Start Menu.

I ran the latest JAWS version in the run box:

c:\j17.0.2211enu-x64.exe /type repair

After the clicks, JAWS wanted to restart. That repair process seemed to
work but I still cannot open the Start Menu using the WINDOWS key.

I can still close all, using WINDOWS+d, an then tab to the Start button
and use the applications key. Most of the Start Menu items are in the
list.

My next step will be to uninstall JAWS 17 and reinstall it.

Peter T


On 2016-06-13 8:03 AM, Ann Byrne wrote:
1. Copy the executable to your hard drive.
2. Open the run dialog (windows+r)
3. Paste the executable file from your hard drive into the run dialog.
It should say something like quote c:\jaws17.0.221.enu.bla.bla.bla.exe
quote.
4. Delete the quotes.
5. Following .exe leave a space, then type /type repair.
6. Press enter and you should be good to go.

Good luck!
HI. As far as the new update for windows 10 goes jaws will recognize
the start menu. everything is in columns now. Once you hit your
windows key it will land you in the search box. the column that will
open up is your apps column. Once that opens up you just tab around
and you'll find the different columsn. so for example you'll find
your life at a glance column and your navigation menu wich is a
toggle. that opens up your menu to go to your file explorer and your
settings and your power. so you just tab around to get to the
different columns. Hope that helps. thanks.


Windows 10 Start Menu no longer recognized by the latest JAWS 17 update.

Peter Tesar
 

Thanks for all of your suggestions. I still have not fixed the problem that JAWS will not announce the Start Menu items. I know that the menu is opened and I know how to navigate through it.

All I can do is a repair. I have not found a way to completely uninstall JAWS 17.

I just sent this issue to Tech Support. The automatic response is now from something called VFO.

My last attempt was to reinstall using the latest j17.0.211enu-x64.exe. It started out with the JAWS setup but then I was given 2 options: modify or repair.

So now I have done the repair in two ways and the Start Menu, once opened, JAWS still does not recognize.

I can still right click the Start Menu button and arrow up and down with JAWS announcing most of the menu items. I can also use the file explorer to quickly access the most recently used items.

Now to wait for a response from the VFO tech support. Thanks again for all of your response.

Peter T.


Re: Insert a Heading Word 2016

Artur Räpp
 

Hi,

 

You don’t need to select a line in Microsoft Word before applying heading style. Heading is always applied to whole paragraph because headings are paragraph level formating. Tested with word 2007-2016.

You can’t make half of a line heading 1 and leave the other half of the line in normal style. Selecting a line is a bit dangerous because you can accidentaly select  some part from next line too and then Microsoft Word applies heading style to both paragraphs.

 

Artur

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Insert a Heading Word 2016

 

Hi, again, Elise. When making different heading levels, don't forget to select the line of text first with SHIFT plus DOWN ARROW before performing the ALT plus CONTROL 1 etc.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:41 AM

Subject: Insert a Heading Word 2016

 

Sorry, guys.

I do not use this shortcut key much, but I have to start.  I forgot the shortcut key in Word 2016 to add headings to my paper so I can navigate easier.  Thanks.

Elise



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Re: No success! to repair JAWS

David Webster
 

On 6/13/16, Alan Robbins <alan1057@me.com> wrote:
I would try calling freedom scientific

On Jun 13, 2016, at 08:34, Peter Tesar <ptesar@ca.inter.net> wrote:

The repair does not fix the problem. The WINDOWS key does not open the
Start Menu.

I ran the latest JAWS version in the run box:

c:\j17.0.2211enu-x64.exe /type repair

After the clicks, JAWS wanted to restart. That repair process seemed to
work but I still cannot open the Start Menu using the WINDOWS key.

I can still close all, using WINDOWS+d, an then tab to the Start button
and use the applications key. Most of the Start Menu items are in the
list.

My next step will be to uninstall JAWS 17 and reinstall it.

Peter T


On 2016-06-13 8:03 AM, Ann Byrne wrote:
1. Copy the executable to your hard drive.
2. Open the run dialog (windows+r)
3. Paste the executable file from your hard drive into the run dialog.
It should say something like quote c:\jaws17.0.221.enu.bla.bla.bla.exe
quote.
4. Delete the quotes.
5. Following .exe leave a space, then type /type repair.
6. Press enter and you should be good to go.

Good luck!
HI. As far as the new update for windows 10 goes jaws will recognize
the start menu. everything is in columns now. Once you hit your
windows key it will land you in the search box. the column that will
open up is your apps column. Once that opens up you just tab around
and you'll find the different columsn. so for example you'll find
your life at a glance column and your navigation menu wich is a
toggle. that opens up your menu to go to your file explorer and your
settings and your power. so you just tab around to get to the
different columns. Hope that helps. thanks.


Re: Windows 10 Start Menu no longer recognized by the latest JAWS 17 update.

Ann Byrne
 

You are not losing your mind. I have seen this. When it happened to me I rebooted and JAWS read the menu correctly.

At 08:32 PM 6/12/2016, you wrote:
Hello,
I am a PrivateBeta tester and localizer of the JAWS for Windows screen
reading software, and had a chance to test build 17.0.2211 before it
released out to customers. I have never seen this kind of a serious
issue. There is a small issue with this build and the Windows 10
calculator, which makes the scripts introduced a while back not to
load correctly in this build, but not for the start menu. Not only me,
but others also did not report this problem.

Best,

Adi.

On 6/13/16, Peter Tesar <ptesar@ca.inter.net> wrote:
Hello,

Has anyone else experienced this?
I noticed it a few days ago after updating to the latest JAWS 17.

When I press the Windows key, all I hear is: "cortana".
JAWS no longer announces the items as I arrow up or down. This is what
happened with JAWS 16 and the new Windows 10.

If I kill JAWS and start NVDA, then I can hear the Start Menu items.

The Windows key still works together with the other keys:
WINDOWS+e for File Explorer and
WINDOWS+ i for the setting.

I'm just curious if anyone else has noticed this problem.

Peter T.

--
Regards,

Adi Kushnir.


Re: Windows 10 Start Menu no longer recognized by the latest JAWS 17 update.

Shane clark
 

Hello,

A few days ago, I had a similar experience with Jaws not starting up for me out of the blue. Through a lot of great people here on the list, including Bill, suggested contacting Microsoft Disability Desk, of which I did, and found out that a Jaws repair didn’t solve my issue. We had to do an uninstall/reinstall of Jaws, which helped. So this may be what needs to be done here.  Not sure, but it may help.

Shane.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adi Kushnir
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 12:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 Start Menu no longer recognized by the latest JAWS 17 update.

 

Also, you can just try running your latest JAWS installer, if you don’t have the latest installer for the latest build, go ahead and grab it from the FS website. This would also allow you to select repair as an option.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 5:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 Start Menu no longer recognized by the latest JAWS 17 update.

 

Hi,

Try:

Open Run dialog and type:

Jaws17 /repair

Also, a member of the Win10 group suggests completely removing and reinstalling JAWS 17, and other members cannot reproduce this issue.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 Start Menu no longer recognized by the latest JAWS 17 update.

 

Hello Joseph,

I want to try a repair but I don't know if there is a specific executable to use.

I tried to run the following but WINDOWS says that it cannot be found:

c:\program files\freedom scientific\jaws\17.0\jfw.exe /type repair

I assume that I should run the executable: jfw.exe
Is that correct?

Peter T

On 2016-06-12 9:33 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi Peter,

I cannot reproduce this (forward your query to Win10 list to see if any experts there can also help you).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows 10 Start Menu no longer recognized by the latest JAWS 17 update.

 

Hello,

Has anyone else experienced this?
I noticed it a few days ago after updating to the latest JAWS 17.

When I press the Windows key, all I hear is: "cortana".
JAWS no longer announces the items as I arrow up or down. This is what happened with JAWS 16 and the new Windows 10.

If I kill JAWS and start NVDA, then I can hear the Start Menu items.

The Windows key still works together with the other keys:
  WINDOWS+e for File Explorer and
  WINDOWS+ i for the setting.

I'm just curious if anyone else has noticed this problem.

Peter T.

 


want text document explaining thunderbird

Mark Furness
 

I repeat, it must be a document not a mp3.
I am more then willing to purchase. Brain injurey forces me to use text.


Re: Is there a merge utility in jfw 17?

Maria Campbell
 

There is not.


Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Rather than build a wall to keep others out, we must build a chain that links us together.
On 6/12/2016 9:17 AM, marvin kotler wrote:

Good morning list.  Is there a merge utility in jfw17? Also, in the to field, keep getting something that says picture one.  At the moment, using jfw17 and windows vista.  Any help with these issues would be appreciated.
Marv


Re: Windows 10 Start Menu no longer recognized by the latest JAWS 17 update.

 

Also, you can just try running your latest JAWS installer, if you don’t have the latest installer for the latest build, go ahead and grab it from the FS website. This would also allow you to select repair as an option.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 5:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 Start Menu no longer recognized by the latest JAWS 17 update.

 

Hi,

Try:

Open Run dialog and type:

Jaws17 /repair

Also, a member of the Win10 group suggests completely removing and reinstalling JAWS 17, and other members cannot reproduce this issue.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 Start Menu no longer recognized by the latest JAWS 17 update.

 

Hello Joseph,

I want to try a repair but I don't know if there is a specific executable to use.

I tried to run the following but WINDOWS says that it cannot be found:

c:\program files\freedom scientific\jaws\17.0\jfw.exe /type repair

I assume that I should run the executable: jfw.exe
Is that correct?

Peter T

On 2016-06-12 9:33 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi Peter,

I cannot reproduce this (forward your query to Win10 list to see if any experts there can also help you).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows 10 Start Menu no longer recognized by the latest JAWS 17 update.

 

Hello,

Has anyone else experienced this?
I noticed it a few days ago after updating to the latest JAWS 17.

When I press the Windows key, all I hear is: "cortana".
JAWS no longer announces the items as I arrow up or down. This is what happened with JAWS 16 and the new Windows 10.

If I kill JAWS and start NVDA, then I can hear the Start Menu items.

The Windows key still works together with the other keys:
  WINDOWS+e for File Explorer and
  WINDOWS+ i for the setting.

I'm just curious if anyone else has noticed this problem.

Peter T.

 


Re: Windows 10 Start Menu no longer recognized by the latest JAWS 17 update.

 

Hello,
I am a PrivateBeta tester and localizer of the JAWS for Windows screen
reading software, and had a chance to test build 17.0.2211 before it
released out to customers. I have never seen this kind of a serious
issue. There is a small issue with this build and the Windows 10
calculator, which makes the scripts introduced a while back not to
load correctly in this build, but not for the start menu. Not only me,
but others also did not report this problem.

Best,

Adi.

On 6/13/16, Peter Tesar <ptesar@ca.inter.net> wrote:
Hello,

Has anyone else experienced this?
I noticed it a few days ago after updating to the latest JAWS 17.

When I press the Windows key, all I hear is: "cortana".
JAWS no longer announces the items as I arrow up or down. This is what
happened with JAWS 16 and the new Windows 10.

If I kill JAWS and start NVDA, then I can hear the Start Menu items.

The Windows key still works together with the other keys:
WINDOWS+e for File Explorer and
WINDOWS+ i for the setting.

I'm just curious if anyone else has noticed this problem.

Peter T.
--
Regards,

Adi Kushnir.


Is there a merge utility in jfw 17?

marvin kotler
 

Good morning list.  Is there a merge utility in jfw17? Also, in the to field, keep getting something that says picture one.  At the moment, using jfw17 and windows vista.  Any help with these issues would be appreciated.
Marv


Re: PC wireless adapter recommendation

Alan Robbins
 

Dave,

 

Is your trendnet adapter USB 2 or 3? Also was it plug & play or did you need to install drivers? Lastly, are you running Windows 10?

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 11:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: PC wireless adapter recommendation

 

Alan,

 

I use a Trendnet Wi-Fi device that plugs into my USB port. Works just fine.

 

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 07:00 AM

Subject: Re: PC wireless adapter recommendation

 

Thank you for the suggestion, however, I will be using this and various locations that all have different routers so don't think I can buy a specific one


On Jun 13, 2016, at 09:50, Feliciano G <theblindman12v@...> wrote:

Hi, 

I do not have any suggestions as to a specific model, but I do recommend that you purchase a USB wireless adapter of the same brand of your router to prevent network problems.

 

Regards,Feliciano For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v 


On Jun 13, 2016, at 6:14 AM, Alan Robbins <alan1057@...> wrote:

Hello,

In the near future I will need to use my desktop PC in a location away from my hard wired home network. There is WI-FI available but my PC does not have a wireless card in it.

I have researched them somewhat and I see mixed reviews with folks using Windows 10. Here is what I have and want.

I have a Win 64 bit PC with 8 MB ram, windows 10, and most recent version of JAWS. I’m looking for a USB 3.0 wireless WI-FI adapter, preferably plug & play with minimal configuration. Wondering if anyone on the list is using something like this and could offer some comments and recommendations? All suggestions appreciated.

Best,

Al


Re: PC wireless adapter recommendation

Dave...
 


Alan,
 
I use a Trendnet Wi-Fi device that plugs into my USB port. Works just fine.
 
Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 07:00 AM
Subject: Re: PC wireless adapter recommendation

Thank you for the suggestion, however, I will be using this and various locations that all have different routers so don't think I can buy a specific one

On Jun 13, 2016, at 09:50, Feliciano G <theblindman12v@...> wrote:

Hi, 
I do not have any suggestions as to a specific model, but I do recommend that you purchase a USB wireless adapter of the same brand of your router to prevent network problems.

Regards,Feliciano For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v 

On Jun 13, 2016, at 6:14 AM, Alan Robbins <alan1057@...> wrote:

Hello,

In the near future I will need to use my desktop PC in a location away from my hard wired home network. There is WI-FI available but my PC does not have a wireless card in it.

I have researched them somewhat and I see mixed reviews with folks using Windows 10. Here is what I have and want.

I have a Win 64 bit PC with 8 MB ram, windows 10, and most recent version of JAWS. I’m looking for a USB 3.0 wireless WI-FI adapter, preferably plug & play with minimal configuration. Wondering if anyone on the list is using something like this and could offer some comments and recommendations? All suggestions appreciated.

Best,

Al


Re: PC wireless adapter recommendation

Alan Robbins
 

Marie,
Thank you. However, in some of the reviews I have read on various adapters, folks say they were working fine with her Windows 7 configuration but once they upgraded to windows 10 some of the folks reported issues. So, what I'm looking for, is folks that have actually using these wireless adapters on a Windows 10 machine. Again, thanks

On Jun 13, 2016, at 10:02, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@...> wrote:

I'm using a Zonet adapter on my w7 machine that works even better than the wireless card on my w10 machine. 


Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Rather than build a wall to keep others out, we must build a chain that links us together.
On 6/13/2016 10:00 AM, Alan Robbins wrote:
Thank you for the suggestion, however, I will be using this and various locations that all have different routers so don't think I can buy a specific one

On Jun 13, 2016, at 09:50, Feliciano G <theblindman12v@...> wrote:

Hi, 
I do not have any suggestions as to a specific model, but I do recommend that you purchase a USB wireless adapter of the same brand of your router to prevent network problems.

Regards,Feliciano For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v 

On Jun 13, 2016, at 6:14 AM, Alan Robbins <alan1057@...> wrote:

Hello,

 

In the near future I will need to use my desktop PC in a location away from my hard wired home network. There is WI-FI available but my PC does not have a wireless card in it.

I have researched them somewhat and I see mixed reviews with folks using Windows 10. Here is what I have and want.

I have a Win 64 bit PC with 8 MB ram, windows 10, and most recent version of JAWS. I’m looking for a USB 3.0 wireless WI-FI adapter, preferably plug & play with minimal configuration. Wondering if anyone on the list is using something like this and could offer some comments and recommendations? All suggestions appreciated.

 

Best,

Al

 



Re: PC wireless adapter recommendation

Maria Campbell
 

I'm using a Zonet adapter on my w7 machine that works even better than the wireless card on my w10 machine. 


Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

Rather than build a wall to keep others out, we must build a chain that links us together.
On 6/13/2016 10:00 AM, Alan Robbins wrote:

Thank you for the suggestion, however, I will be using this and various locations that all have different routers so don't think I can buy a specific one

On Jun 13, 2016, at 09:50, Feliciano G <theblindman12v@...> wrote:

Hi, 
I do not have any suggestions as to a specific model, but I do recommend that you purchase a USB wireless adapter of the same brand of your router to prevent network problems.

Regards,Feliciano For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v 

On Jun 13, 2016, at 6:14 AM, Alan Robbins <alan1057@...> wrote:

Hello,

 

In the near future I will need to use my desktop PC in a location away from my hard wired home network. There is WI-FI available but my PC does not have a wireless card in it.

I have researched them somewhat and I see mixed reviews with folks using Windows 10. Here is what I have and want.

I have a Win 64 bit PC with 8 MB ram, windows 10, and most recent version of JAWS. I’m looking for a USB 3.0 wireless WI-FI adapter, preferably plug & play with minimal configuration. Wondering if anyone on the list is using something like this and could offer some comments and recommendations? All suggestions appreciated.

 

Best,

Al