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Re: Jaws & iTunes

Dave...
 


Yes, exactly the problem experienced with iTunes since version 12 rolled out. iTunes 12.4 recently rolled out, and I have not yet updated, since I prefer "the devil I know vs. the angel I don't". I just fear that Apple will throw even more roadblocks into iTunes with each revision.
 
I know that John Martyn is working hard to resolve issues with these changes, but not sure even he's had success. There is an update to BlindTunes, but I don't know if it will resolve the problems, since I haven't yet stepped into the abyss.
 
Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 04:21 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws & iTunes

Hi,
I am having the same problems when it comes to arrowing through the artists and album lists. The songs list does not have that problem. This helps me a lot. What I do is type some letters to go to the artist I want, and then I press the downarrow once or twice, and then press the up arrow once and I always find myself on the artist I want. If you do that in every list, it really helps. Just press the down arrow once and then press the up arrow once and that usually works. If that does not work, then try pressing the down arrow twice and the up arrow once. Take care.
 
 
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws & iTunes
 

I’m using Win7 Pro, latest version of JFW and latest version of iTunes!  I notice I’m having the same issue with itunes with regard to arrowing through songs, albums, etc.  Any suggestions?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 9:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws & iTunes

 

Alan,

 

Yes that behavior of iTunes came with version 12. And it really p***es me off. It also affects how to select audio books. Same problem -- you get kicked off the list after several selections and have to tab back, and then slog your way through the first batch to get back to where you were.

 

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----

From: Alan Robbins

Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 05:13 PM

Subject: Jaws & iTunes

 

Hello,

 

I am currently running Win 10, latest Jaws, and iTunes version 12.4.1

It has been a while since I played with apps etc. in iTunes That section used to be in a list format where one had the option to install, remove, or deleted the app. I do not see any way to delete an app from there now. I also don’t see a way to navigate all 41 apps I have. I go to the tree view, select apps, then tab to where they are. Seems like I can tab through a few then get tossed to another section of iTunes. When I look at my phone under iTunes, media, I see a mobile apps folder but all  my current apps are not listed. I know beginning in IOS 9, app thinning was introduced so transferring purchases in the iTunes program on my PC with iPhone plugged in synced almost instantly. Don’t think it is copying things over like before IOS 9.

So, how does one know what apps are backed up and how can one get rid of apps in history they no longer want, even if not installed on iPhone anymore.

 

Best,

Al


Re: Jaws & iTunes

David Moore
 

Hi,
I am having the same problems when it comes to arrowing through the artists and album lists. The songs list does not have that problem. This helps me a lot. What I do is type some letters to go to the artist I want, and then I press the downarrow once or twice, and then press the up arrow once and I always find myself on the artist I want. If you do that in every list, it really helps. Just press the down arrow once and then press the up arrow once and that usually works. If that does not work, then try pressing the down arrow twice and the up arrow once. Take care.
 
 

Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws & iTunes
 

I’m using Win7 Pro, latest version of JFW and latest version of iTunes!  I notice I’m having the same issue with itunes with regard to arrowing through songs, albums, etc.  Any suggestions?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 9:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws & iTunes

 

Alan,

 

Yes that behavior of iTunes came with version 12. And it really p***es me off. It also affects how to select audio books. Same problem -- you get kicked off the list after several selections and have to tab back, and then slog your way through the first batch to get back to where you were.

 

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----

From: Alan Robbins

Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 05:13 PM

Subject: Jaws & iTunes

 

Hello,

 

I am currently running Win 10, latest Jaws, and iTunes version 12.4.1

It has been a while since I played with apps etc. in iTunes That section used to be in a list format where one had the option to install, remove, or deleted the app. I do not see any way to delete an app from there now. I also don’t see a way to navigate all 41 apps I have. I go to the tree view, select apps, then tab to where they are. Seems like I can tab through a few then get tossed to another section of iTunes. When I look at my phone under iTunes, media, I see a mobile apps folder but all  my current apps are not listed. I know beginning in IOS 9, app thinning was introduced so transferring purchases in the iTunes program on my PC with iPhone plugged in synced almost instantly. Don’t think it is copying things over like before IOS 9.

So, how does one know what apps are backed up and how can one get rid of apps in history they no longer want, even if not installed on iPhone anymore.

 

Best,

Al


Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Tom Behler
 

Ted:

I have done this, and it worked!

In fact, I recently posted the step-by-step process I was given, for the
benefit of anyone else who is experiencing the issue.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 3:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Tom, if you want to silence the character altogether, you probably want to
highlight the vertical tab or return, load the dictionary, and leave the
alternate pronunciation field blank. I think we had a discussion on this
list about silencing the greater than sign, and I used a similar technique
to silence the : in my bible dictionary.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

OK, Doc Tom, here's what I suggested, that you use JAWS dictionary, by
typing in vertical tab in the place where the dictionary says add, then tab
once to put in the word that you want pronounced, where you spell it however
you can to make JAWS pronounce it the way you want it to, and hit Spacebar
there.

On my computer, I can hit Insert-D and I'm in the Dictionary, but on older
programs, and I can also do this, to use the dictionary, you hit Insert-F2.
You would be in JAWS Manager, so you type d to get into the dictionary.
Enter. It will ask you to hit Control-Shift-D, if you want your substitute
in all programs. If you want it only in the specific program you are using
for e-mail, do not hit the Control-Shift-D. When you Entered, you should be
at Add. So Add means add whatever word you want JAWS to pronounce in another
way. You type in the add place the correct word. Then you go to the next tab
and type what you want JAWS to say. For instance in mine, I changed per se,
because JAWS makes it sound like per see. So at that second tab I typed per
say, and it has a more acceptable pronunciation.

Please excuse me, if I told you stuff you already know or more than you ever
wanted to know about JAWS Dictionary. I use it a lot.


Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 8:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Carolyn:

Where would I find the alt vertical tab that you mention in step 4?

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 7:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Try:

1. Insert-F2 for JAWS Manager.
2. D for dictionary.
3. Control-Shift-D for default in all programs.
4. Write vertical tab.
5. Next tab hit a Spacebar.
6. Alt-F4, save changes and exit.

I don't know if that will work since this vertical tab statement from JAWS
might be from program or graphics as opposed to text, but it wouldn't hurt
to see if that gave you any relief.
Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 5:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Hello, everyone.

As you may recall, I'm working to get Office 365 up and running on a fairly
new Windows 7 laptop. I am using the latest build of Jaws 17.

I have noticed that in many Outlook 2016 e-mails, and especially in
Microsoft Word documents, Jaws keeps saying "vertical tab", as I navigate
whatever it is I'm reading.

I don't recall encountering this behavior in the previous versions of
Outlook and Word that I have used.

How can I get Jaws to stop reading the vertical tabs, whatever they are?

As I'm sure yu can imagine, this vertical tab designation is very
distracting.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


Re: Jaws & iTunes

Loreal Lavigna <Llavigna2@...>
 

I’m using Win7 Pro, latest version of JFW and latest version of iTunes!  I notice I’m having the same issue with itunes with regard to arrowing through songs, albums, etc.  Any suggestions?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 9:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws & iTunes

 

Alan,

 

Yes that behavior of iTunes came with version 12. And it really p***es me off. It also affects how to select audio books. Same problem -- you get kicked off the list after several selections and have to tab back, and then slog your way through the first batch to get back to where you were.

 

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 05:13 PM

Subject: Jaws & iTunes

 

Hello,

 

I am currently running Win 10, latest Jaws, and iTunes version 12.4.1

It has been a while since I played with apps etc. in iTunes That section used to be in a list format where one had the option to install, remove, or deleted the app. I do not see any way to delete an app from there now. I also don’t see a way to navigate all 41 apps I have. I go to the tree view, select apps, then tab to where they are. Seems like I can tab through a few then get tossed to another section of iTunes. When I look at my phone under iTunes, media, I see a mobile apps folder but all  my current apps are not listed. I know beginning in IOS 9, app thinning was introduced so transferring purchases in the iTunes program on my PC with iPhone plugged in synced almost instantly. Don’t think it is copying things over like before IOS 9.

So, how does one know what apps are backed up and how can one get rid of apps in history they no longer want, even if not installed on iPhone anymore.

 

Best,

Al


start menu on Window 10

Ngoc Ly <lyvanngoc@...>
 

hi all,

I am using JAWS Version 17.0.2007.400. Yesterday I upgraded Window 10. I read Window 10 basic with JAWS at:

http://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/2015-10-28_windows10-basics/02_Windows10Basics.htm

But I’ve got a problem in practicing start menu. JAWS said nothing when I navigated in start menu except Cortana and start. How do I fix the problem?

Notice: I follow the instruction from title: the new start menu.

Thank you very much

 
Ngoc Ly
Lyvanngoc@...


Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Tom, if you want to silence the character altogether, you probably want to highlight the vertical tab or return, load the dictionary, and leave the alternate pronunciation field blank. I think we had a discussion on this list about silencing the greater than sign, and I used a similar technique to silence the : in my bible dictionary.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

OK, Doc Tom, here's what I suggested, that you use JAWS dictionary, by typing in vertical tab in the place where the dictionary says add, then tab once to put in the word that you want pronounced, where you spell it however you can to make JAWS pronounce it the way you want it to, and hit Spacebar there.

On my computer, I can hit Insert-D and I'm in the Dictionary, but on older programs, and I can also do this, to use the dictionary, you hit Insert-F2. You would be in JAWS Manager, so you type d to get into the dictionary. Enter. It will ask you to hit Control-Shift-D, if you want your substitute in all programs. If you want it only in the specific program you are using for e-mail, do not hit the Control-Shift-D. When you Entered, you should be at Add. So Add means add whatever word you want JAWS to pronounce in another way. You type in the add place the correct word. Then you go to the next tab and type what you want JAWS to say. For instance in mine, I changed per se, because JAWS makes it sound like per see. So at that second tab I typed per say, and it has a more acceptable pronunciation.

Please excuse me, if I told you stuff you already know or more than you ever wanted to know about JAWS Dictionary. I use it a lot.


Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 8:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Carolyn:

Where would I find the alt vertical tab that you mention in step 4?

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 7:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Try:

1. Insert-F2 for JAWS Manager.
2. D for dictionary.
3. Control-Shift-D for default in all programs.
4. Write vertical tab.
5. Next tab hit a Spacebar.
6. Alt-F4, save changes and exit.

I don't know if that will work since this vertical tab statement from JAWS might be from program or graphics as opposed to text, but it wouldn't hurt to see if that gave you any relief.
Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 5:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Hello, everyone.

As you may recall, I'm working to get Office 365 up and running on a fairly new Windows 7 laptop. I am using the latest build of Jaws 17.

I have noticed that in many Outlook 2016 e-mails, and especially in Microsoft Word documents, Jaws keeps saying "vertical tab", as I navigate whatever it is I'm reading.

I don't recall encountering this behavior in the previous versions of Outlook and Word that I have used.

How can I get Jaws to stop reading the vertical tabs, whatever they are?

As I'm sure yu can imagine, this vertical tab designation is very distracting.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I saw the further clarifications after writing my last note, so apologies are due.  However, the phrase still seems unusual.  Like Brian, I haven’t used it that often, and it’s definitely been a while. Fooling around with it just now, it says “Column Break” in an e-mail, and says nothing in Word.  Of course, I’m using 2010 here at the office, and that may be the difference.´

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

Announcing page breaks is not that unusual, but the phrase “vertical tab” must be new.  Tom, does it happen when your cursoring, or when you’re in say-all?

 

ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 5:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

Yes, I have, Brian;  and have punctuation set to “some”, as I always have done in the past.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 5:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

Tom,

         Have you checked punctuation settings?

         I imagine this gets announced when many others don't because it represents an intentional page break where one would not otherwise occur and its a way to let the listener know that you've jumped to the next page "early."
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Announcing page breaks is not that unusual, but the phrase “vertical tab” must be new.  Tom, does it happen when your cursoring, or when you’re in say-all?

 

ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 5:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

Yes, I have, Brian;  and have punctuation set to “some”, as I always have done in the past.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 5:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

Tom,

         Have you checked punctuation settings?

         I imagine this gets announced when many others don't because it represents an intentional page break where one would not otherwise occur and its a way to let the listener know that you've jumped to the next page "early."
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Jaws & iTunes

Dave...
 

Alan,
 
Yes that behavior of iTunes came with version 12. And it really p***es me off. It also affects how to select audio books. Same problem -- you get kicked off the list after several selections and have to tab back, and then slog your way through the first batch to get back to where you were.
 
Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 05:13 PM
Subject: Jaws & iTunes

Hello,

 

I am currently running Win 10, latest Jaws, and iTunes version 12.4.1

It has been a while since I played with apps etc. in iTunes That section used to be in a list format where one had the option to install, remove, or deleted the app. I do not see any way to delete an app from there now. I also don’t see a way to navigate all 41 apps I have. I go to the tree view, select apps, then tab to where they are. Seems like I can tab through a few then get tossed to another section of iTunes. When I look at my phone under iTunes, media, I see a mobile apps folder but all  my current apps are not listed. I know beginning in IOS 9, app thinning was introduced so transferring purchases in the iTunes program on my PC with iPhone plugged in synced almost instantly. Don’t think it is copying things over like before IOS 9.

So, how does one know what apps are backed up and how can one get rid of apps in history they no longer want, even if not installed on iPhone anymore.

 

Best,

Al


Re: Jaws & iTunes

Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
 

I also find it difficult to select tones to synk with my iPhone.  I don’t even see an option to delete duplicate.  It’s becoming more and more frustrating.
 

Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 8:13 PM
Subject: Jaws & iTunes
 

Hello,

 

I am currently running Win 10, latest Jaws, and iTunes version 12.4.1

It has been a while since I played with apps etc. in iTunes That section used to be in a list format where one had the option to install, remove, or deleted the app. I do not see any way to delete an app from there now. I also don’t see a way to navigate all 41 apps I have. I go to the tree view, select apps, then tab to where they are. Seems like I can tab through a few then get tossed to another section of iTunes. When I look at my phone under iTunes, media, I see a mobile apps folder but all  my current apps are not listed. I know beginning in IOS 9, app thinning was introduced so transferring purchases in the iTunes program on my PC with iPhone plugged in synced almost instantly. Don’t think it is copying things over like before IOS 9.

So, how does one know what apps are backed up and how can one get rid of apps in history they no longer want, even if not installed on iPhone anymore.

 

Best,

Al


Jaws & iTunes

Alan Robbins <alan1057@...>
 

Hello,

 

I am currently running Win 10, latest Jaws, and iTunes version 12.4.1

It has been a while since I played with apps etc. in iTunes That section used to be in a list format where one had the option to install, remove, or deleted the app. I do not see any way to delete an app from there now. I also don’t see a way to navigate all 41 apps I have. I go to the tree view, select apps, then tab to where they are. Seems like I can tab through a few then get tossed to another section of iTunes. When I look at my phone under iTunes, media, I see a mobile apps folder but all  my current apps are not listed. I know beginning in IOS 9, app thinning was introduced so transferring purchases in the iTunes program on my PC with iPhone plugged in synced almost instantly. Don’t think it is copying things over like before IOS 9.

So, how does one know what apps are backed up and how can one get rid of apps in history they no longer want, even if not installed on iPhone anymore.

 

Best,

Al


Re: Excel Quick Access Tool Bar

"Kevin Hourigan " <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Hello Dale and Chris,

My window is maximised; Alt plus numbers on the numbers row works, and pressing alt, and shift tab on home gets me there, so it is functional, but now, just curious.

Thank you,

Kevin.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dale Alton
Sent: June 4, 2016 3:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel Quick Access Tool Bar

 

Did it possibly get moved to below?

 

Denver Dale

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 3:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Excel Quick Access Tool Bar

 

Hello All,

I am using Windows 10, Jaws 17, and Excel 2016.

Pressing Alt to go to home in the ribbon, and up arrowing to the quick access tool bar, has stopped working. All I get when I press the up arrow, is the Windows gong, denoting I am going nowhere. I checked the FS webinar on the quick access tool bar, and that is the only process for accessing it they offered that I could find.

Any suggestions, please?

Thank you in advance.

Cheers Kevin.


Re: Excel Quick Access Tool Bar

Ann Byrne
 

Can you find it with the JAWS cursor? if not, it may be hidden. Also, after pressing alt, try shift-tab.

Good luck.!

At 04:43 PM 6/4/2016, you wrote:
Hello All,
I am using Windows 10, Jaws 17, and Excel 2016.
Pressing Alt to go to home in the ribbon, and up arrowing to the quick access tool bar, has stopped working. All I get when I press the up arrow, is the Windows gong, denoting I am going nowhere. I checked the FS webinar on the quick access tool bar, and that is the only process for accessing it they offered that I could find.
Any suggestions, please?
Thank you in advance.
Cheers Kevin.


Re: Excel Quick Access Tool Bar

Dale Alton <blinkydale@...>
 

Did it possibly get moved to below?

 

Denver Dale

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 3:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Excel Quick Access Tool Bar

 

Hello All,

I am using Windows 10, Jaws 17, and Excel 2016.

Pressing Alt to go to home in the ribbon, and up arrowing to the quick access tool bar, has stopped working. All I get when I press the up arrow, is the Windows gong, denoting I am going nowhere. I checked the FS webinar on the quick access tool bar, and that is the only process for accessing it they offered that I could find.

Any suggestions, please?

Thank you in advance.

Cheers Kevin.


Re: Excel Quick Access Tool Bar

Chris Chaffin
 


I am assuming that you have already checked this, but is the window maximized?
Sorry, but I do not know any other way of accessing that toolbar.

Chris


On Jun 4, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...> wrote:

Hello All,

I am using Windows 10, Jaws 17, and Excel 2016.

Pressing Alt to go to home in the ribbon, and up arrowing to the quick access tool bar, has stopped working. All I get when I press the up arrow, is the Windows gong, denoting I am going nowhere. I checked the FS webinar on the quick access tool bar, and that is the only process for accessing it they offered that I could find.

Any suggestions, please?

Thank you in advance.

Cheers Kevin.


Excel Quick Access Tool Bar

"Kevin Hourigan " <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Hello All,

I am using Windows 10, Jaws 17, and Excel 2016.

Pressing Alt to go to home in the ribbon, and up arrowing to the quick access tool bar, has stopped working. All I get when I press the up arrow, is the Windows gong, denoting I am going nowhere. I checked the FS webinar on the quick access tool bar, and that is the only process for accessing it they offered that I could find.

Any suggestions, please?

Thank you in advance.

Cheers Kevin.


Re: JAWS Portable - Can such a creature be created?

Mike and Jenna <schwaltze@...>
 

Hi,

 

The answer to that is yes and know as far as I still remember you still need cirtain conponents installed on the work computer.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2016 3:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS Portable - Can such a creature be created?

 

I have a client who has been using JAWS for quite a while now and has been on version 17 since at least last fall.  He is about to begin an internship and it remains uncertain whether he will be able to connect his personal computer to the organization's network (we're hoping so, but).

I know that NVDA supports making a portable version that you can place on a USB drive or SD card, carry with, and use as a freestanding program on other machines without installing it.  I have never explored whether JAWS supports such an arrangement.  Does anyone know if it does?

--
Brian

A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

"Kevin Hourigan " <kevinthourigan@...>
 

I think someone said the vertical tab is when one moves down a line by pressing shift enter, and arrives with less spacing than when pressing just enter.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: June 2, 2016 8:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

1 other note:

 

Vertical Tab, is what's trying to be muted, not vertical bar or vertical line.  Vertical Tab isn't a punctuation mark, it's got some other designation that I don't recall at the moment.

Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B.

Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 8:35 PM

Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

Hi Hamilton,

 

A correction to your steps:

When making changes in the customize punctuation list, if you do not
want Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the
" all " selection.  You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down
through.  They are none, some, most, & all.  In these selections they work
backwards than what you would think.  For example;  If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading.  On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

In short, these settings tell Jaws what to, Ignore, & not what to recognize.

 

Take care.
Mike
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: HAMILTON

Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 7:34 PM

Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

HI ALL:

 

Let’s try this again.

 

In a previous message on this subject, I made reference to “customizing” JAWS punctuation settings, and hoped that someone with more expertise could take this to a solution for getting rid of these vertical lines.  Since no-one did, I took it upon myself to find the solution.  Keep in mind that I am using the most updated version of JAWS 17, with OFFICE 2013 on a Windows 8.1, 64-bit system.  And, by the way, I have heard the virtical lines in OUTLOOK messages, PDF files, the internet and some WORD files.

 

Anyway, here goes:

 

Go to JAWS by “alt-tabbing” until you hear “JAWS.

Press the alt key for the menu.

Right arrow once to “Utilities”.

Down arrow 5 times to “settings center” and press enter.

Down arrow to “punctuation”.

Right arrow to open “Punctuations”.

Down arrow once to “customize punctuations ...”.

Press spacebar, not the enter key, to open this item

 

At this point, you should find yourself at the top of a 190 item list of punctuations.  For each punctuation mark, it will say: “none”, “some”, “most”, or “all”.  This means that that punctuation mark will be read “none” of the time”, “some” of the time, and so on.

 

If you want to change what is specified for a specific punctuation, tab once, and it will say “none checked”, “some checked”, “most”, or “all”.  To change when that punctuation is spoken, use the up/down arrows to select the setting that you want.  If you want something to be spoken only when you are proof reading, for example, set the item to “all”.  If you never want to hear that punctuation, set it to “none”.

 

Now, “vertical line” is item 176 on this list of 190 punctuations.  So:

 

Press “end” to get to the bottom of the list.

Up arrow to “vertical line”.

Tab once to the list of: “none”, “some”, and so on.

Then use up or down arrow to select when you want it to be spoken.  If you never want to hear it, select “none”.  If you want to hear it if you are doing something like “proof reading”, select “all”. 

 

After you have made your selections, including any other changes you might want to make to this list, tab over to OK and press enter.

You will find yourself back on the “customizing punctuations ...” item in the list of JAWS settings.  Then, tab to “apply” and press enter.  Then, tab to “OK” and press enter again.  This should take you out of the “settings center”.

Then, alt-tab to the item/file that you were working on prior to this exercise.

 

Now, I am not certain of this; but, you may have to close, and restart JAWS after making punctuation changes.

 

The bottom line on this topic is that trying to use the “dictionary” to stop hearing vertical lines is likely doomed to failure.  Whereas, the above method should work without fail.

 

Jim H

 

 

 


Re: Which youtube to mp3 converters do you recommend as safe and accessible?

David Moore
 

Hi,
This is the website that I use. Make sure that you arrow down until you hear English. Usually when the site comes up, it is in German. Take care.
 
 

From: Bill White
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: Which youtube to mp3 converters do you recommend as safe and accessible?
 
Hi, again, Keith. I got carried away with telling about the conversion tool, and forgot to give the link. It is below.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 12:47 PM
Subject: Which youtube to mp3 converters do you recommend as safe and accessible?
 

Hi,

 

Which youtube to mp3 converters do you recommend as safe and accessible?

 

Thanks, Keith



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Re: Punctuation, Differences Between Jaws Quick Settings & Settings Center Customize Punctuation Settings

Gudrun Brunot
 

Superbly and succinctly explained. Thank you.



Gudrun

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 1:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Punctuation, Differences Between Jaws Quick Settings & Settings
Center Customize Punctuation Settings

This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in
Jaws quick settings, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the Settings
Center default all applications
/ configuration manager. They work backwards from one another.

When setting punctuation in Jaws quick settings, this controls the amount of

punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize. The default setting is most. To
hear less
punctuation spoken you would select some or none.

When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells
Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore. If you do not want
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the
" all " selection. You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down
through. They are none, some, most, & all. In these selections they work
backwards than what you would think. For example; If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading. On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

Summary: In short the Jaws quick settings tells Jaws what punctuation to
recognize / speak, & in the Settings Center default all applications /
Customize Punctuation settings, tells Jaws what punctuation to ignore / not
speak. Hence, they work backwards from each other.

Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2
punctuation setting options.

Take care.
Mike
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software. Go Dodgers!