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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I saw the further clarifications after writing my last note, so apologies are due.  However, the phrase still seems unusual.  Like Brian, I haven’t used it that often, and it’s definitely been a while. Fooling around with it just now, it says “Column Break” in an e-mail, and says nothing in Word.  Of course, I’m using 2010 here at the office, and that may be the difference.´

 

Ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 12:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

Announcing page breaks is not that unusual, but the phrase “vertical tab” must be new.  Tom, does it happen when your cursoring, or when you’re in say-all?

 

ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 5:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

Yes, I have, Brian;  and have punctuation set to “some”, as I always have done in the past.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 5:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

Tom,

         Have you checked punctuation settings?

         I imagine this gets announced when many others don't because it represents an intentional page break where one would not otherwise occur and its a way to let the listener know that you've jumped to the next page "early."
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Announcing page breaks is not that unusual, but the phrase “vertical tab” must be new.  Tom, does it happen when your cursoring, or when you’re in say-all?

 

ted

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 5:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

Yes, I have, Brian;  and have punctuation set to “some”, as I always have done in the past.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 5:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

Tom,

         Have you checked punctuation settings?

         I imagine this gets announced when many others don't because it represents an intentional page break where one would not otherwise occur and its a way to let the listener know that you've jumped to the next page "early."
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Jaws & iTunes

Dave...
 

Alan,
 
Yes that behavior of iTunes came with version 12. And it really p***es me off. It also affects how to select audio books. Same problem -- you get kicked off the list after several selections and have to tab back, and then slog your way through the first batch to get back to where you were.
 
Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 05:13 PM
Subject: Jaws & iTunes

Hello,

 

I am currently running Win 10, latest Jaws, and iTunes version 12.4.1

It has been a while since I played with apps etc. in iTunes That section used to be in a list format where one had the option to install, remove, or deleted the app. I do not see any way to delete an app from there now. I also don’t see a way to navigate all 41 apps I have. I go to the tree view, select apps, then tab to where they are. Seems like I can tab through a few then get tossed to another section of iTunes. When I look at my phone under iTunes, media, I see a mobile apps folder but all  my current apps are not listed. I know beginning in IOS 9, app thinning was introduced so transferring purchases in the iTunes program on my PC with iPhone plugged in synced almost instantly. Don’t think it is copying things over like before IOS 9.

So, how does one know what apps are backed up and how can one get rid of apps in history they no longer want, even if not installed on iPhone anymore.

 

Best,

Al


Re: Jaws & iTunes

Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
 

I also find it difficult to select tones to synk with my iPhone.  I don’t even see an option to delete duplicate.  It’s becoming more and more frustrating.
 

Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 8:13 PM
Subject: Jaws & iTunes
 

Hello,

 

I am currently running Win 10, latest Jaws, and iTunes version 12.4.1

It has been a while since I played with apps etc. in iTunes That section used to be in a list format where one had the option to install, remove, or deleted the app. I do not see any way to delete an app from there now. I also don’t see a way to navigate all 41 apps I have. I go to the tree view, select apps, then tab to where they are. Seems like I can tab through a few then get tossed to another section of iTunes. When I look at my phone under iTunes, media, I see a mobile apps folder but all  my current apps are not listed. I know beginning in IOS 9, app thinning was introduced so transferring purchases in the iTunes program on my PC with iPhone plugged in synced almost instantly. Don’t think it is copying things over like before IOS 9.

So, how does one know what apps are backed up and how can one get rid of apps in history they no longer want, even if not installed on iPhone anymore.

 

Best,

Al


Jaws & iTunes

Alan Robbins <alan1057@...>
 

Hello,

 

I am currently running Win 10, latest Jaws, and iTunes version 12.4.1

It has been a while since I played with apps etc. in iTunes That section used to be in a list format where one had the option to install, remove, or deleted the app. I do not see any way to delete an app from there now. I also don’t see a way to navigate all 41 apps I have. I go to the tree view, select apps, then tab to where they are. Seems like I can tab through a few then get tossed to another section of iTunes. When I look at my phone under iTunes, media, I see a mobile apps folder but all  my current apps are not listed. I know beginning in IOS 9, app thinning was introduced so transferring purchases in the iTunes program on my PC with iPhone plugged in synced almost instantly. Don’t think it is copying things over like before IOS 9.

So, how does one know what apps are backed up and how can one get rid of apps in history they no longer want, even if not installed on iPhone anymore.

 

Best,

Al


Re: Excel Quick Access Tool Bar

"Kevin Hourigan " <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Hello Dale and Chris,

My window is maximised; Alt plus numbers on the numbers row works, and pressing alt, and shift tab on home gets me there, so it is functional, but now, just curious.

Thank you,

Kevin.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dale Alton
Sent: June 4, 2016 3:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel Quick Access Tool Bar

 

Did it possibly get moved to below?

 

Denver Dale

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 3:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Excel Quick Access Tool Bar

 

Hello All,

I am using Windows 10, Jaws 17, and Excel 2016.

Pressing Alt to go to home in the ribbon, and up arrowing to the quick access tool bar, has stopped working. All I get when I press the up arrow, is the Windows gong, denoting I am going nowhere. I checked the FS webinar on the quick access tool bar, and that is the only process for accessing it they offered that I could find.

Any suggestions, please?

Thank you in advance.

Cheers Kevin.


Re: Excel Quick Access Tool Bar

Ann Byrne
 

Can you find it with the JAWS cursor? if not, it may be hidden. Also, after pressing alt, try shift-tab.

Good luck.!

At 04:43 PM 6/4/2016, you wrote:
Hello All,
I am using Windows 10, Jaws 17, and Excel 2016.
Pressing Alt to go to home in the ribbon, and up arrowing to the quick access tool bar, has stopped working. All I get when I press the up arrow, is the Windows gong, denoting I am going nowhere. I checked the FS webinar on the quick access tool bar, and that is the only process for accessing it they offered that I could find.
Any suggestions, please?
Thank you in advance.
Cheers Kevin.


Re: Excel Quick Access Tool Bar

Dale Alton <blinkydale@...>
 

Did it possibly get moved to below?

 

Denver Dale

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 3:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Excel Quick Access Tool Bar

 

Hello All,

I am using Windows 10, Jaws 17, and Excel 2016.

Pressing Alt to go to home in the ribbon, and up arrowing to the quick access tool bar, has stopped working. All I get when I press the up arrow, is the Windows gong, denoting I am going nowhere. I checked the FS webinar on the quick access tool bar, and that is the only process for accessing it they offered that I could find.

Any suggestions, please?

Thank you in advance.

Cheers Kevin.


Re: Excel Quick Access Tool Bar

Chris Chaffin
 


I am assuming that you have already checked this, but is the window maximized?
Sorry, but I do not know any other way of accessing that toolbar.

Chris


On Jun 4, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...> wrote:

Hello All,

I am using Windows 10, Jaws 17, and Excel 2016.

Pressing Alt to go to home in the ribbon, and up arrowing to the quick access tool bar, has stopped working. All I get when I press the up arrow, is the Windows gong, denoting I am going nowhere. I checked the FS webinar on the quick access tool bar, and that is the only process for accessing it they offered that I could find.

Any suggestions, please?

Thank you in advance.

Cheers Kevin.


Excel Quick Access Tool Bar

"Kevin Hourigan " <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Hello All,

I am using Windows 10, Jaws 17, and Excel 2016.

Pressing Alt to go to home in the ribbon, and up arrowing to the quick access tool bar, has stopped working. All I get when I press the up arrow, is the Windows gong, denoting I am going nowhere. I checked the FS webinar on the quick access tool bar, and that is the only process for accessing it they offered that I could find.

Any suggestions, please?

Thank you in advance.

Cheers Kevin.


Re: JAWS Portable - Can such a creature be created?

Mike and Jenna <schwaltze@...>
 

Hi,

 

The answer to that is yes and know as far as I still remember you still need cirtain conponents installed on the work computer.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2016 3:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS Portable - Can such a creature be created?

 

I have a client who has been using JAWS for quite a while now and has been on version 17 since at least last fall.  He is about to begin an internship and it remains uncertain whether he will be able to connect his personal computer to the organization's network (we're hoping so, but).

I know that NVDA supports making a portable version that you can place on a USB drive or SD card, carry with, and use as a freestanding program on other machines without installing it.  I have never explored whether JAWS supports such an arrangement.  Does anyone know if it does?

--
Brian

A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

"Kevin Hourigan " <kevinthourigan@...>
 

I think someone said the vertical tab is when one moves down a line by pressing shift enter, and arrives with less spacing than when pressing just enter.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: June 2, 2016 8:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

1 other note:

 

Vertical Tab, is what's trying to be muted, not vertical bar or vertical line.  Vertical Tab isn't a punctuation mark, it's got some other designation that I don't recall at the moment.

Take care.
Mike
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike B.

Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 8:35 PM

Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

Hi Hamilton,

 

A correction to your steps:

When making changes in the customize punctuation list, if you do not
want Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the
" all " selection.  You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down
through.  They are none, some, most, & all.  In these selections they work
backwards than what you would think.  For example;  If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading.  On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

In short, these settings tell Jaws what to, Ignore, & not what to recognize.

 

Take care.
Mike
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: HAMILTON

Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 7:34 PM

Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

HI ALL:

 

Let’s try this again.

 

In a previous message on this subject, I made reference to “customizing” JAWS punctuation settings, and hoped that someone with more expertise could take this to a solution for getting rid of these vertical lines.  Since no-one did, I took it upon myself to find the solution.  Keep in mind that I am using the most updated version of JAWS 17, with OFFICE 2013 on a Windows 8.1, 64-bit system.  And, by the way, I have heard the virtical lines in OUTLOOK messages, PDF files, the internet and some WORD files.

 

Anyway, here goes:

 

Go to JAWS by “alt-tabbing” until you hear “JAWS.

Press the alt key for the menu.

Right arrow once to “Utilities”.

Down arrow 5 times to “settings center” and press enter.

Down arrow to “punctuation”.

Right arrow to open “Punctuations”.

Down arrow once to “customize punctuations ...”.

Press spacebar, not the enter key, to open this item

 

At this point, you should find yourself at the top of a 190 item list of punctuations.  For each punctuation mark, it will say: “none”, “some”, “most”, or “all”.  This means that that punctuation mark will be read “none” of the time”, “some” of the time, and so on.

 

If you want to change what is specified for a specific punctuation, tab once, and it will say “none checked”, “some checked”, “most”, or “all”.  To change when that punctuation is spoken, use the up/down arrows to select the setting that you want.  If you want something to be spoken only when you are proof reading, for example, set the item to “all”.  If you never want to hear that punctuation, set it to “none”.

 

Now, “vertical line” is item 176 on this list of 190 punctuations.  So:

 

Press “end” to get to the bottom of the list.

Up arrow to “vertical line”.

Tab once to the list of: “none”, “some”, and so on.

Then use up or down arrow to select when you want it to be spoken.  If you never want to hear it, select “none”.  If you want to hear it if you are doing something like “proof reading”, select “all”. 

 

After you have made your selections, including any other changes you might want to make to this list, tab over to OK and press enter.

You will find yourself back on the “customizing punctuations ...” item in the list of JAWS settings.  Then, tab to “apply” and press enter.  Then, tab to “OK” and press enter again.  This should take you out of the “settings center”.

Then, alt-tab to the item/file that you were working on prior to this exercise.

 

Now, I am not certain of this; but, you may have to close, and restart JAWS after making punctuation changes.

 

The bottom line on this topic is that trying to use the “dictionary” to stop hearing vertical lines is likely doomed to failure.  Whereas, the above method should work without fail.

 

Jim H

 

 

 


Re: Which youtube to mp3 converters do you recommend as safe and accessible?

David Moore
 

Hi,
This is the website that I use. Make sure that you arrow down until you hear English. Usually when the site comes up, it is in German. Take care.
 
 

From: Bill White
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: Which youtube to mp3 converters do you recommend as safe and accessible?
 
Hi, again, Keith. I got carried away with telling about the conversion tool, and forgot to give the link. It is below.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 12:47 PM
Subject: Which youtube to mp3 converters do you recommend as safe and accessible?
 

Hi,

 

Which youtube to mp3 converters do you recommend as safe and accessible?

 

Thanks, Keith



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Re: Punctuation, Differences Between Jaws Quick Settings & Settings Center Customize Punctuation Settings

Gudrun Brunot
 

Superbly and succinctly explained. Thank you.



Gudrun

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 1:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Punctuation, Differences Between Jaws Quick Settings & Settings
Center Customize Punctuation Settings

This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in
Jaws quick settings, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the Settings
Center default all applications
/ configuration manager. They work backwards from one another.

When setting punctuation in Jaws quick settings, this controls the amount of

punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize. The default setting is most. To
hear less
punctuation spoken you would select some or none.

When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells
Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore. If you do not want
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the
" all " selection. You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down
through. They are none, some, most, & all. In these selections they work
backwards than what you would think. For example; If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading. On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

Summary: In short the Jaws quick settings tells Jaws what punctuation to
recognize / speak, & in the Settings Center default all applications /
Customize Punctuation settings, tells Jaws what punctuation to ignore / not
speak. Hence, they work backwards from each other.

Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2
punctuation setting options.

Take care.
Mike
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software. Go Dodgers!


Re: Vertical Tab symbol being spoken.

Tom Behler
 

Tim:

 

The only major modification I would make to these instructions is in step 7.

 

In my case, looking for the backslash as instructed didn’t work.

 

Here are my modified steps:

 

1.       Press JAWS key with D to bring up the dictionary manager.

 

2.       Use CTRL with Shift and D to load the default dictionary manager.

 

3.       Tab to the tree view and press E for English.

 

4.       Expand the English option by using right arrow key.

 

5.       Use down arrow key and find the appropriate synthesizer.  You can

also press E for Eloquence, V for ?Vocalizer, V until you find Vocalizer Expressive, etc.

 

 

6.       Use right arrow to open the appropriate synthesizer item.

 

7.       Down arrow until you find a 011 listing.

JAWS should tell you that this equals Vertical Tab. 

 

8.       Tab to the Change button and press spacebar.

 

9.       In the Actual Word field should be the \011.  Tab to the

Replacement Word field and press spacebar one time. 

 

10.   Tab to OK and use spacebar.

 

11.   Use CTRL with S to save changes.

 

12.   Close the window using Alt with F4.

 

13.   You might or might not need to restart JAWS.

 

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 4:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Vertical Tab symbol being spoken.

 

Hi Tim,

 

Here are the basic notes:

From: Brian Lee

Hello Tom,

The following steps should work:
1.       Press JAWS key with D to bring up the dictionary manager.

2.       Use CTRL with Shift and D to load the default dictionary manager.

3.       Tab to the tree view and press E for English.

4.       Expand the English option by using right arrow key.

5.       Use down arrow key and find the appropriate synthesizer.  You can
also press E for Eloquence, V for ?Vocalizer, V until you find Vocalizer
Expressive, etc.

6.       Use right arrow to open the appropriate synthesizer item.

7.       Press a backslash key until you find a backslash followed by 011.
JAWS should tell you that this equals Vertical Tab. 

8.       Tab to the Change button and press spacebar.

9.       In the Actual Word field should be the \011.  Tab to the
Replacement Word field and press spacebar one time. 

10.   Tab to OK and use spacebar.

11.   Use CTRL with S to save changes.

12.   Close the window using Alt with F4.

13.   You might or might not need to restart JAWS.
The above worked for me using a Vocalizer Expressive profile.  
Take care.
Brian Lee
brianllee@...


From: Brian Lee
I also noticed a \011 entry after the list of languages.  Without opening
English and Eloquence check after "Russian" in the list of languages.  I
switched to Eloquence and changed that entry and it worked.  Hope you get it
working.
Take care.   
Brian Lee
brianllee@...

From: Bill White
Hi, Mike. The only thing I would add to this post is that if the value beginning with the backslash is not in the default dictionary under english, and under your particular synthesizer, you may need to press the Add button, instead of the Change button, add the \011 value in the Real Word field, then tab to the replacement field and type the space character as the replacement word. The other steps are valid.
Bill White billwhite92701@...

Take care.
Mike
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Tim Ford

Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 12:38 PM

Subject: Vertical Tab symbol being spoken.

 

HI All,

 

I know a lot of notes were exchanged recently on this list regarding JAWS speaking the vertical tab symbol under certain circumstances.  I was not noticing the problem, and did not read any of those emails.  But, a friend just asked me what to do to solve the problem.

 

Would someone on this list be so kind as to give me a brief description of the symptoms and the solution?  I would greatly appreciate the accommodation.

 

Sincerely,

Tim Ford

 


Re: Vertical Tab symbol being spoken.

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Tim,
 
Here are the basic notes:
From: Brian Lee
Hello Tom,

The following steps should work:
1.       Press JAWS key with D to bring up the dictionary manager.

2.       Use CTRL with Shift and D to load the default dictionary manager.

3.       Tab to the tree view and press E for English.

4.       Expand the English option by using right arrow key.

5.       Use down arrow key and find the appropriate synthesizer.  You can
also press E for Eloquence, V for ?Vocalizer, V until you find Vocalizer
Expressive, etc.

6.       Use right arrow to open the appropriate synthesizer item.

7.       Press a backslash key until you find a backslash followed by 011.
JAWS should tell you that this equals Vertical Tab. 

8.       Tab to the Change button and press spacebar.

9.       In the Actual Word field should be the \011.  Tab to the
Replacement Word field and press spacebar one time. 

10.   Tab to OK and use spacebar.

11.   Use CTRL with S to save changes.

12.   Close the window using Alt with F4.

13.   You might or might not need to restart JAWS.
The above worked for me using a Vocalizer Expressive profile.  
Take care.
Brian Lee
brianllee@...

From: Brian Lee
I also noticed a \011 entry after the list of languages.  Without opening
English and Eloquence check after "Russian" in the list of languages.  I
switched to Eloquence and changed that entry and it worked.  Hope you get it
working.
Take care.   
Brian Lee
brianllee@...
From: Bill White
Hi, Mike. The only thing I would add to this post is that if the value beginning with the backslash is not in the default dictionary under english, and under your particular synthesizer, you may need to press the Add button, instead of the Change button, add the \011 value in the Real Word field, then tab to the replacement field and type the space character as the replacement word. The other steps are valid.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
Take care.
Mike
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Ford
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 12:38 PM
Subject: Vertical Tab symbol being spoken.

HI All,
 
I know a lot of notes were exchanged recently on this list regarding JAWS speaking the vertical tab symbol under certain circumstances.  I was not noticing the problem, and did not read any of those emails.  But, a friend just asked me what to do to solve the problem.
 
Would someone on this list be so kind as to give me a brief description of the symptoms and the solution?  I would greatly appreciate the accommodation.
 
Sincerely,
Tim Ford
 


Punctuation, Differences Between Jaws Quick Settings & Settings Center Customize Punctuation Settings

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in Jaws quick settings, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the Settings Center default all applications 
/ configuration manager.  They work backwards from one another.

When setting punctuation in Jaws quick settings, this controls the amount of
punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize.  The default setting is most.  To hear less
punctuation spoken you would select some or none.

When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore.  If you do not want
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the
" all " selection.  You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down
through.  They are none, some, most, & all.  In these selections they work
backwards than what you would think.  For example;  If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading.  On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

Summary:  In short the Jaws quick settings tells Jaws what punctuation to recognize / speak, & in the Settings Center default all applications / Customize Punctuation settings, tells Jaws what punctuation to ignore / not speak.  Hence, they work backwards from each other.
 
Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2
punctuation setting options.
Take care.
Mike
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software.  Go Dodgers!


Re: JAWS Portable - Can such a creature be created?

 

Michael,

             My sincere thanks.

              Sadly, I think that "Plan F" is what I often find myself in, if you get my drift!
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Vertical Tab symbol being spoken.

 

Tim,

             There were several separate threads that were related to this over the last several days.  The first and primary one entitled, 

 , and the others, 




That should give you and your friend all the necessary information and anyone, whether a groups.io member or not, can click through to view these threads on the website.

--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: JAWS Portable - Can such a creature be created?

Michael Mote
 

I feel your pain.  Good luck!  Keep us posted on what you’re dealing with.  I’m sure one of us can help with a good solution, or maybe a plan F!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 2:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Portable - Can such a creature be created?

 

Michael,

          Thanks very much for this info.

          I doubt very much it will be useful in my specific circumstance since I doubt that any VPNs exist (or will exist) for this organization.  It's a tiny church-related charity that's almost exclusively staffed by volunteers and there's no IT department to speak of.  I exist "between a rock and a hard place" because I contract with the Virginia Department for the Blind and Visually-Impaired as a tutor and tech support person.  We never know what the various sites our clients may hook up with may be like and I have no wherewithal to do anything specific on either side.  I get listened to, a lot, which is great but in the end I'm a glorified go-between and if either side decides they don't or can't go a certain way then I'm stuck coming up with plans B, C, D, and sometimes E.

          It's still great to know for future reference.
--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

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