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Re: Solution found to the new line announcement problem (was) Further to the virtical tab discussion

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Yall amaze me how you can find the ASCII needed. Is there a place in the computer that shows the ASCII characters? Just curious.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 12:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Solution found to the new line announcement problem (was) Further to the virtical tab discussion

Kimber,

Please do share if you reproduce them. I have never had JAWS announce "new line" with normally "flowed" text in MS-Word up through Word 2013. Of course, I've never heard JAWS announce a Vertical Tab, either, and have been working with JAWS for a long time now.

These behaviors seem recent, and appear to possibly be linked to changes in how Word is working and/or how JAWS is working with it.
--
Brian



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~ William James


Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Kimber Gardner
 

I would call FS support and ask them about it. If they first tell you no and you are stuck with it, nudge them a little. It's what I had to do with the guy I had on the phone today. But once he decided to put his mind to it he got me the right solution. I suspect there may be a way of doing it with speech and sound schemes.

Kimber

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On Jun 2, 2016, at 9:51 AM, Matthew Bullis <matthewbullisaz@gmail.com> wrote:

Are there similar instructions on how to get Jaws not to say cell cell cell every time it moves over a cell in a table?
Thanks,
Matthew



On Jun 2, 2016, at 5:08 AM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com> wrote:

I can happily report that these steps worked fabulously. I'm dancing
with joy over here. No more vertical tab announcement! Woow!

Thanks, Mike, for sharing these steps.

On 6/2/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@charter.net> wrote:
Hi All,

Here are steps from another list, & this dude that wrote the steps is 1 of
the smartest computer / Jaws users I've ever come across!

From: Brian Lee
Hello Tom,

The following steps should work:
1. Press JAWS key with D to bring up the dictionary manager.

2. Use CTRL with Shift and D to load the default dictionary manager.

3. Tab to the tree view and press E for English.

4. Expand the English option by using right arrow key.

5. Use down arrow key and find the appropriate synthesizer. You can
also press E for Eloquence, V for ?Vocalizer, V until you find Vocalizer
Expressive, etc.

6. Use right arrow to open the appropriate synthesizer item.

7. Press a backslash key until you find a backslash followed by 011.
JAWS should tell you that this equals Vertical Tab.

8. Tab to the Change button and press spacebar.

9. In the Actual Word field should be the \011. Tab to the
Replacement Word field and press spacebar one time.

10. Tab to OK and use spacebar.

11. Use CTRL with S to save changes.

12. Close the window using Alt with F4.

13. You might or might not need to restart JAWS.
The above worked for me using a Vocalizer Expressive profile.
Take care.
Brian Lee
brianllee@charter.net

Take care.
Mike
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary King
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"


Tom,
Can you place the PC cursor on the symbol that is indicated by JAWS as a
vertical tab? If so, place it there and bring up the JAWS Dictionary with
JAWS Key d. Then press Control Shift d if you want the replacement to be
in
all programs. Press Spacebar on the Add Button. The symbol should appear
in the Actual Word field. Then put a space in the Replacement Word field.
Press Enter, Control s to save and then exit the JAWS Dictionary.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"


Bill:

I tried this, but still no luck.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Putting 11 in the dictionary won't work. the way ASCII values are
expressed
is with the Shift plus the number six on the numbers row below the F keys
followed by the ASCII value which in this case is 11.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"


Ok, Bill.

I put 11 in the first Jaws dictionary field, followed by a space, but
still no luck.

It may be time to call FS on this issue.

I'm not sure iff I'll get to it tomorrow, but if I do, I'll keep
everyone posted.

Thanks all for your patience.

And, of course, I'll continue to take any and all suggestions.

Tom behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Hi, Tom. The character which is voicing as a vertical tab has an ASCII
value of eleven.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"


Carolyn:

Bill White set me straight regarding step 4 of your instructions.

I actually wrote the words vertical tab in the add edit field that
came up in the Jaws dictionary, and put a space in the replacement
field.

But, still no luck.

I think this is because the vertical tab is some sort of a computer
character.

Thanks to Bill for the clarification.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 7:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Try:

1. Insert-F2 for JAWS Manager.
2. D for dictionary.
3. Control-Shift-D for default in all programs.
4. Write vertical tab.
5. Next tab hit a Spacebar.
6. Alt-F4, save changes and exit.

I don't know if that will work since this vertical tab statement from
JAWS might be from program or graphics as opposed to text, but it
wouldn't hurt to see if that gave you any relief.
Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom
Behler
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 5:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Hello, everyone.

As you may recall, I'm working to get Office 365 up and running on a
fairly new Windows 7 laptop. I am using the latest build of Jaws 17.

I have noticed that in many Outlook 2016 e-mails, and especially in
Microsoft Word documents, Jaws keeps saying "vertical tab", as I
navigate whatever it is I'm reading.

I don't recall encountering this behavior in the previous versions of
Outlook and Word that I have used.

How can I get Jaws to stop reading the vertical tabs, whatever they
are?

As I'm sure yu can imagine, this vertical tab designation is very
distracting.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
















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Re: Windows Explorer

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

To Stop Windows Explorer From Saying: Not Responding:

 

While in Windows Explorer, go to Tools and then folder options.

Next, move to the view tab, and then the tree-view, and uncheck the

following:

show preview handlers in preview payne.

----- Original Message -----
From: Cathy
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 2:53 PM
Subject: Windows Explorer

Hello,

 

Has anyone experienced freezing when trying to use windows explorer? I am not sure if it is a JAWS-related issue or not.

 

I am using JAWS 17, Windows 2007, MS Office 2013 and Sharepoint and networked.

 

Thanks,

Cathy

  

 

 

 



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Re: Which youtube to mp3 converters do you recommend as safe and accessible?

Mario
 

Kieth, if you want something accessible, simple and quick:

With Pontes Media Downloader you can download and convert media from popular media websites such as Youtube, DailyMotion, etc. The program is a gui interface that puts together two command line tools: Youtube-dl for downloading media and FFmpeg for converting media.
The simple intuitive interface enables the user to easily download and convert media from the Internet. You simply copy the URL of the page containing the video and press the Download button from Pontes Media Downloader. Also, this program is virus free and does not install any kind of toolbars or addons in your computer.
Pontes Media Downloader was programmed in C# by Nelu Cîmpean (Campus).

http://www.pontes.ro/en/scripts/

I have used it with youtube and haven't tried it with anything else,
you can select audio and video formats if they are available after PMD connects with youtube.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Subject: Which youtube to mp3 converters do you recommend as safe and accessible?
Date: Thursday, Jun 2, 2016 3:47:55 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io

Hi,



Which youtube to mp3 converters do you recommend as safe and accessible?



Thanks, Keith


Windows Explorer

 

Hello,

 

Has anyone experienced freezing when trying to use windows explorer? I am not sure if it is a JAWS-related issue or not.

 

I am using JAWS 17, Windows 2007, MS Office 2013 and Sharepoint and networked.

 

Thanks,

Cathy

  

 

 

 


Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Thanks. Good to know that.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 11:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Incidentally, Carolyn, if you're using a desktop computer with the
keyboard in Desktop Layout, Insert 6, 7, 8, 9, and 0 are JAWS commands.
Insert plus 6 gives you the Settings Center, Insert plus 7 gives you
Window Classes, Insert plus 8 gives you the Keyboard Manager, Insert plus
9 gives you Frame Viewer, and Insert plus 0 gives you Script Manager.

These commands won't do anything wrong, they just open up tools in JAWS.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"


You're right, Shift-6 is the caret, not the and.


Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 9:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Hi, Carol. I don't know how to get it to work. It might not work in a
dictionary entry, but the ASCII value is 11, and it is preceded by the
caret, which is the Shift key plus the number six, followed in this
case
by
11
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"


So how do you use ASCII 11 to solve the problem, please? I tried the
dictionary trick, but the trick did not work.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 9:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Hi, Tom. The character which is voicing as a vertical tab has an ASCII
value of eleven.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"


Carolyn:

Bill White set me straight regarding step 4 of your instructions.

I actually wrote the words vertical tab in the add edit field that
came up in the Jaws dictionary, and put a space in the replacement
field.

But, still no luck.

I think this is because the vertical tab is some sort of a computer
character.

Thanks to Bill for the clarification.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 7:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Try:

1. Insert-F2 for JAWS Manager.
2. D for dictionary.
3. Control-Shift-D for default in all programs.
4. Write vertical tab.
5. Next tab hit a Spacebar.
6. Alt-F4, save changes and exit.

I don't know if that will work since this vertical tab statement from
JAWS might be from program or graphics as opposed to text, but it
wouldn't hurt to see if that gave you any relief.
Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom
Behler
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 5:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Hello, everyone.

As you may recall, I'm working to get Office 365 up and running on a
fairly new Windows 7 laptop. I am using the latest build of Jaws 17.

I have noticed that in many Outlook 2016 e-mails, and especially in
Microsoft Word documents, Jaws keeps saying "vertical tab", as I
navigate whatever it is I'm reading.

I don't recall encountering this behavior in the previous versions
of Outlook and Word that I have used.

How can I get Jaws to stop reading the vertical tabs, whatever they
are?

As I'm sure yu can imagine, this vertical tab designation is very
distracting.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
















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Re: Which youtube to mp3 converters do you recommend as safe and accessible?

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, again, Keith. I got carried away with telling about the conversion tool, and forgot to give the link. It is below.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Which youtube to mp3 converters do you recommend as safe and accessible?

Hi,

 

Which youtube to mp3 converters do you recommend as safe and accessible?

 

Thanks, Keith



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Re: Which youtube to mp3 converters do you recommend as safe and accessible?

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Keith. I use Convert2mp3. The link is below. The reason I like this one is that it gives you a choice of what format your YouTube video, or other video will be converted to. It also gives you a choice of having tags in your file, or no tags except the comment field where it says that it was converted by Convert2mp3. But if you use WinAmp, or if you know how to navigate your file properties, you can remove that comment.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 12:47 PM
Subject: Which youtube to mp3 converters do you recommend as safe and accessible?

Hi,

 

Which youtube to mp3 converters do you recommend as safe and accessible?

 

Thanks, Keith



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Re: Which youtube to mp3 converters do you recommend as safe and accessible?

paul lemm
 

Hi,

 

I use an online converter called clip converter which seems to work welll and is accessible. The link is below

 

http://www.clipconverter.cc/

 

 

paul

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: 02 June 2016 20:48
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Which youtube to mp3 converters do you recommend as safe and accessible?

 

Hi,

 

Which youtube to mp3 converters do you recommend as safe and accessible?

 

Thanks, Keith


Which youtube to mp3 converters do you recommend as safe and accessible?

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

Hi,

 

Which youtube to mp3 converters do you recommend as safe and accessible?

 

Thanks, Keith


Vertical Tab Announcement Problem Solved

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

After two calls to Freedom Scientific, I am happy to report that my vertical
tab announcement problem with Microsoft Word and Outlook 2016 documents has
been solved.

Basically, following Brian Lee's steps with regard to the Dictionary Manager
turned out to be the solution.

This was, in fact, the solution that Freedom Scientific Tech Support
ultimately suggested.

I believe the steps were posted earlier on this list.

I did have to modify step 7, though. At least on my computer, I got to the
011 character by arrowing down after I opened the eloquence synthsizer,
which is the one I used. Other than this, the steps worked flawlessly.

Needless to say, I have saved these steps for future reference.

Incidentally, the FS Tech support person I last spoke with indicated that
this is a problem that has been found with Office 2013 and later, and Fs is
aware of the issue.

Thanks to all for your patience with this thread.

I'm hoping that more people than just me ultimately benefitted from it.

I don't usually bring up issues like this unless I'm really stumped, and
this one was a real puzzszler for me.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

"Kevin Hourigan " <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Do not forget if you remove Jaw’s announcement of the vertical tab via the dictionary as shown in this thread, you will be unaware of the visual difference; if that matters.

Cheers Kevin.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of HAMILTON
Sent: June 2, 2016 10:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

Tom:

 

To get the “virticle tab” character, press shift+enter.  You will see that this takes your following text, or “cursor”, to the next line without the need to press enter again.  To be honest, I do not really know why some people like to use this; but, it may have to do with “visual presentation”.  If that’s the case, “who cares” if it’s there, as long as we don’t have to hear it!

 

Once you have gotten into the “dictionairy” (ins/JAWS+dj), be sure to press shift+ctrol+ d for the default dictionairy if you wish to “never” hear this character in any applications.  You can place “shift-enter” into the first “dictionairy entry field”; then, tab to the “replacement word” field and press spacebar followed by the enter key.  When prompted to add another entry, press ctrl+s, to save, and alt+ctrl to close the dictionairy and return to where you were.

 

There are other ways to do this, e.g. “customizing” your JAWS punctuation settings by changing which punctuations are spoken under the headings of “none”, “some”, “most” and “all”.  I am sure that someone with more expertise than I have could tell you exactly how to do this.  However, if you go into your JAWS settings and find “punctuations” and look around a bit, you may find that getting to do what you want to do is fairly intuitive after all.

 

Good luck.

 

Jim H

 

 

 


Re: Turn Off Automatic Page Breaks in Microsoft Word

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Annabelle. This is what I found on the web regarding Microsoft Word 2003 and turning off page breaks.
 
SUMMARY
When the Background Repagination option is turned on, Word paginates the document when the program is idle. This allows the page numbers on the status bar
to remain current. Word will insert dotted lines to represent page breaks.
 
In some cases, the Background Repagination option can slow other operations. If this is a problem, you need to turn off Background Repagination.
 
MORE INFORMATION
The Background Repagination option is not available (you cannot turn it off) when you are in print preview, page layout, or online layout views or when
you print the document.
 
When you are in normal, outline, or master document views, you can turn Background Repagination on or off in Word by doing the following:
list of 5 items
1. On the View menu, click Normal.
2. On the Tools menu, click Options (Windows) or Preferences (Word 98 Macintosh Edition).
3. Select the General tab.
4. Select or clear the Background Repagination check box.
5. Click OK.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 10:39 AM
Subject: Turn Off Automatic Page Breaks in Microsoft Word

Hi, it's Annabelle.
Is there a way for me to turn off, or at least override automatic page breaks in Microsoft Word? In this document I have, there's an automatic page break to page 5, with no text on that line, then I inserted a manual page break, where it was supposed to be page 5, but Microsoft Word automatically put it as page 6. I have Microsoft Office Standard Edition 2003.


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Re: Turn Off Automatic Page Breaks in Microsoft Word

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

That's what I usually do.



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 10:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Turn Off Automatic Page Breaks in Microsoft Word

Try putting your manual break at the end of the last line on the previous page.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 12:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Turn Off Automatic Page Breaks in Microsoft Word

 

Hi, it's Annabelle.

Is there a way for me to turn off, or at least override automatic page breaks in Microsoft Word? In this document I have, there's an automatic page break to page 5, with no text on that line, then I inserted a manual page break, where it was supposed to be page 5, but Microsoft Word automatically put it as page 6. I have Microsoft Office Standard Edition 2003.


Re: Solution found to the new line announcement problem (was) Further to the virtical tab discussion

 

Kimber,

            I understand what you're saying, and what you're doing, what I don't understand is what JAWS is doing and why.  Even with all hidden text formatting shown, there is no "new line" in flowed text when it wraps to a new line in a word document.  Generally the last character on each line where the next line flows is the space that separates the last word on the line above from the one that starts the next visible line.  There is no logical reason for JAWS to announce New Line at all and it had not been doing so in any of the JAWS releases I've worked with, starting at either 11 or 13, if memory serves.  The last several years I've had clients primarily with 15 or 16 with some upgrading to 17 recently.

           Since the whole point of how a word processor works is to flow text and so that new lines aren't actually accomplished by a character insertion it seems utterly bizarre that JAWS is announcing this.  Since there is no real new line character, and the introduction of just a character or more could potentially cause a whole document to be "reflowed" this seems particularly bad behavior.  Paragraph markers, though, are generated by hitting the Enter key and exist as entities so it makes sense for those to be announced when you're using the visible formatting setting.

           Another poster is getting ready to rattle the cage of Freedom Scientific Technical Support on this, since the behavior is very recently introduced and multiple people are having it occur that don't want and never wanted for it to occur.

--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Re: Solution found to the new line announcement problem (was) Further to the virtical tab discussion

Mario
 

glad you got it resolved. please share them. it would be handy info to have.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Kimber Gardner
Subject: Solution found to the new line announcement problem (was) Further to the virtical tab discussion
Date: Thursday, Jun 2, 2016 12:17:42 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io

I called FS with my new line announcement dilemma. At first the guy
said, "nothing you can do. you are stuck with it."

But then he gave it a little thought and came up with a solution using
speech and sound schemes. Since the problem is present only in word,
we modified the word classic scheme to silence the speak new line
announcement, replacing the text with a space. It works beautifully
and if I can reproduce the steps, I will be happy to share them if
anyone is interested.

Kimber

On 6/2/16, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
Hi, Kimber. Try entering these two entries into the dictionary. \013 and
\010. These are for the linefeed and carriage return respectively, and these

are the ASCII symbols which signal a new line.

I hope this helps you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimber Gardner" <kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 5:26 AM
Subject: Further to the virtical tab discussion


Hi All,

The vertical tab announcements are now gone thanks to the excellent
instructions previously posted. But now I would like to rid myself of
the "new line" announcement at the termination of every single line
that doesn't terminate with a paragraph symbol.

Before someone suggests that I turn off announcement of symbols, I am
a writer and I need to hear where certain symbols occur like the
paragraph symbol so turning everything off isn't a good option.

I tried using the same steps that worked for the vertical tab problem,
substituting a \n which is the ascii symbol for new line, but it
didn't work.

Does anyone have any other suggestions?

Thanks,
Kimber

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Re: Turn Off Automatic Page Breaks in Microsoft Word

Tony
 

Try putting your manual break at the end of the last line on the previous page.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 12:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Turn Off Automatic Page Breaks in Microsoft Word

 

Hi, it's Annabelle.

Is there a way for me to turn off, or at least override automatic page breaks in Microsoft Word? In this document I have, there's an automatic page break to page 5, with no text on that line, then I inserted a manual page break, where it was supposed to be page 5, but Microsoft Word automatically put it as page 6. I have Microsoft Office Standard Edition 2003.


Re: Muting a thread

 

Al,

        I participate virtually entirely via the web interface, but can explain the intention of the "Mute this thread" feature and what I think is happening because you're accessing it via a digest or individual message in e-mail.

        The "Mute this thread" option does precisely what it's name implies:  stops all further communication related to that thread, whether you use the individual message or digest option to get them.  Once you mute a thread it is as though it does not exist.

        For folks who have been on the JAWS list since before its transfer to Groups.io your posting privileges were ported over and e-mail posting works just fine.  However, when you want to mute a thread you are taken to a page in the web interface with two buttons, "Yes" and "No", with a question of the general format, "Are you sure you want to mute [insert thread name here] in the [insert group name here] group?"  This is a precaution so that you don't accidentally end up muting a thread you really didn't intend to mute.  You must, of course, be logged in to your groups.io account in order to have access to the muting option, so you must log in (and can choose the "Remember me" option if you so choose so that you'll be permanently remembered and logged in unless you intentionally log out or clear cookies from your web browser cache).

         Basically, if you want to make a given thread virtually disappear so that you never have to see it again you'd use "Mute this thread" to make that happen.

--
Brian


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James


Turn Off Automatic Page Breaks in Microsoft Word

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

Hi, it's Annabelle.
Is there a way for me to turn off, or at least override automatic page breaks in Microsoft Word? In this document I have, there's an automatic page break to page 5, with no text on that line, then I inserted a manual page break, where it was supposed to be page 5, but Microsoft Word automatically put it as page 6. I have Microsoft Office Standard Edition 2003.


Muting a thread

Alan Robbins
 

I have never used the feature in IO groups of muting a thread one has no interest in. I see that when one clicks on it, one must provide a user name and password. I also see an option to “email me a link to log in.” For someone  who has utilized this feature could you explain a bit more?

 

Best,

Al