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Re: Muting a thread

 

Al,

        I participate virtually entirely via the web interface, but can explain the intention of the "Mute this thread" feature and what I think is happening because you're accessing it via a digest or individual message in e-mail.

        The "Mute this thread" option does precisely what it's name implies:  stops all further communication related to that thread, whether you use the individual message or digest option to get them.  Once you mute a thread it is as though it does not exist.

        For folks who have been on the JAWS list since before its transfer to Groups.io your posting privileges were ported over and e-mail posting works just fine.  However, when you want to mute a thread you are taken to a page in the web interface with two buttons, "Yes" and "No", with a question of the general format, "Are you sure you want to mute [insert thread name here] in the [insert group name here] group?"  This is a precaution so that you don't accidentally end up muting a thread you really didn't intend to mute.  You must, of course, be logged in to your groups.io account in order to have access to the muting option, so you must log in (and can choose the "Remember me" option if you so choose so that you'll be permanently remembered and logged in unless you intentionally log out or clear cookies from your web browser cache).

         Basically, if you want to make a given thread virtually disappear so that you never have to see it again you'd use "Mute this thread" to make that happen.

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Brian


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Turn Off Automatic Page Breaks in Microsoft Word

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

Hi, it's Annabelle.
Is there a way for me to turn off, or at least override automatic page breaks in Microsoft Word? In this document I have, there's an automatic page break to page 5, with no text on that line, then I inserted a manual page break, where it was supposed to be page 5, but Microsoft Word automatically put it as page 6. I have Microsoft Office Standard Edition 2003.


Muting a thread

Alan Robbins
 

I have never used the feature in IO groups of muting a thread one has no interest in. I see that when one clicks on it, one must provide a user name and password. I also see an option to “email me a link to log in.” For someone  who has utilized this feature could you explain a bit more?

 

Best,

Al


Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Tom Behler
 

Barbara:

 

The vertical bar announcements occur in documents that have been prepared in Microsoft Word 2016 and in Outlook 2016 e-mails.  I’m using Office 365 here.

 

It’s a problem for me because I work a lot with MS Word documents, and sometimes with more than one document at a time.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mcginnis, Barbara
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 11:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

I am assuming the vertical tab is on a web page or an e-mail.  When you are working with G-mail and reading line by line, you hear reply vertical bar, forward, vertical bar, print,  vertical bar.  It is actually a small bar that is no more than ¼ inches long running top to bottom.  I have never tried to stop JAWS from speaking the vertical bar because I don’t know if you can.

 

From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 8:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

Brian:

 

I can do this, but need to know where to send the files,  since I don’t think the list will accommoddate the attachments.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 8:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

Tom,

       If you've got an "old word" file where it's announced, and a "new word" file where it's announced, I'll happily have a look to see what's up.  If it's very easy for you to tell me the phrase that precedes "vertical tab" that would make things a bit faster for me, but it's not necessary.
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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

HAMILTON
 

Tom:

 

To get the “virticle tab” character, press shift+enter.  You will see that this takes your following text, or “cursor”, to the next line without the need to press enter again.  To be honest, I do not really know why some people like to use this; but, it may have to do with “visual presentation”.  If that’s the case, “who cares” if it’s there, as long as we don’t have to hear it!

 

Once you have gotten into the “dictionairy” (ins/JAWS+dj), be sure to press shift+ctrol+ d for the default dictionairy if you wish to “never” hear this character in any applications.  You can place “shift-enter” into the first “dictionairy entry field”; then, tab to the “replacement word” field and press spacebar followed by the enter key.  When prompted to add another entry, press ctrl+s, to save, and alt+ctrl to close the dictionairy and return to where you were.

 

There are other ways to do this, e.g. “customizing” your JAWS punctuation settings by changing which punctuations are spoken under the headings of “none”, “some”, “most” and “all”.  I am sure that someone with more expertise than I have could tell you exactly how to do this.  However, if you go into your JAWS settings and find “punctuations” and look around a bit, you may find that getting to do what you want to do is fairly intuitive after all.

 

Good luck.

 

Jim H

 

 

 


Re: Solution found to the new line announcement problem (was) Further to the virtical tab discussion

Kimber Gardner
 

Brian,

Unless you have certain nondisplay characters turned on within Word
(like paragraph marks), you probably won't experience the newline
problem.

When writing and proofing documents, I often need to know where such
marks occur which is why I have them turned on to begin with. I think
this why my issue is somewhat rare.

Kimber

On 6/2/16, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com> wrote:
I called FS with my new line announcement dilemma. At first the guy
said, "nothing you can do. you are stuck with it."

But then he gave it a little thought and came up with a solution using
speech and sound schemes. Since the problem is present only in word,
we modified the word classic scheme to silence the speak new line
announcement, replacing the text with a space. It works beautifully
and if I can reproduce the steps, I will be happy to share them if
anyone is interested.

Kimber

On 6/2/16, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
Hi, Kimber. Try entering these two entries into the dictionary. \013 and
\010. These are for the linefeed and carriage return respectively, and
these

are the ASCII symbols which signal a new line.

I hope this helps you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimber Gardner" <kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 5:26 AM
Subject: Further to the virtical tab discussion


Hi All,

The vertical tab announcements are now gone thanks to the excellent
instructions previously posted. But now I would like to rid myself of
the "new line" announcement at the termination of every single line
that doesn't terminate with a paragraph symbol.

Before someone suggests that I turn off announcement of symbols, I am
a writer and I need to hear where certain symbols occur like the
paragraph symbol so turning everything off isn't a good option.

I tried using the same steps that worked for the vertical tab problem,
substituting a \n which is the ascii symbol for new line, but it
didn't work.

Does anyone have any other suggestions?

Thanks,
Kimber

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Re: Solution found to the new line announcement problem (was) Further to the virtical tab discussion

 

Kimber,

          Please do share if you reproduce them.  I have never had JAWS announce "new line" with normally "flowed" text in MS-Word up through Word 2013.  Of course, I've never heard JAWS announce a Vertical Tab, either, and have been working with JAWS for a long time now.

          These behaviors seem recent, and appear to possibly be linked to changes in how Word is working and/or how JAWS is working with it.
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Re: Further to the virtical tab discussion

 

Kimber,

          Give "Next Line," U+0085 a try.  Since typing an Enter gives a paragraph mark I can't figure out what you would be getting a "new line" from, since the text in Word just flows to the next line and there is no character that I know of inserted to cause that behavior.
--
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         ~ William James


Solution found to the new line announcement problem (was) Further to the virtical tab discussion

Kimber Gardner
 

I called FS with my new line announcement dilemma. At first the guy
said, "nothing you can do. you are stuck with it."

But then he gave it a little thought and came up with a solution using
speech and sound schemes. Since the problem is present only in word,
we modified the word classic scheme to silence the speak new line
announcement, replacing the text with a space. It works beautifully
and if I can reproduce the steps, I will be happy to share them if
anyone is interested.

Kimber

On 6/2/16, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
Hi, Kimber. Try entering these two entries into the dictionary. \013 and
\010. These are for the linefeed and carriage return respectively, and these

are the ASCII symbols which signal a new line.

I hope this helps you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimber Gardner" <kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 5:26 AM
Subject: Further to the virtical tab discussion


Hi All,

The vertical tab announcements are now gone thanks to the excellent
instructions previously posted. But now I would like to rid myself of
the "new line" announcement at the termination of every single line
that doesn't terminate with a paragraph symbol.

Before someone suggests that I turn off announcement of symbols, I am
a writer and I need to hear where certain symbols occur like the
paragraph symbol so turning everything off isn't a good option.

I tried using the same steps that worked for the vertical tab problem,
substituting a \n which is the ascii symbol for new line, but it
didn't work.

Does anyone have any other suggestions?

Thanks,
Kimber

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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Mcginnis, Barbara
 

I wish I could write code but if you ask me how to fry an egg, I forget to get the frying pan out of the cabinet when I write the instructions.  I am sure you know what I mean.

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 12:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 08:57 am, Mcginnis, Barbara wrote, in part:  "you hear reply vertical bar, forward, vertical bar, print,  vertical bar."

Yes, the vertical bar, often referred to as a pipe as well if you're around programmers, is a single character that's generally located just above your Enter key on the keyboard and produced by hitting the Shift key plus what would normally be a backslash if not "shifted."  If you ever hear someone refer to pipe when reading something as literally as possible they're referring to that vertical bar.

This is very commonly used as a "chunk separator" in a single line of text. 
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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 08:57 am, Mcginnis, Barbara wrote, in part:  "you hear reply vertical bar, forward, vertical bar, print,  vertical bar."

Yes, the vertical bar, often referred to as a pipe as well if you're around programmers, is a single character that's generally located just above your Enter key on the keyboard and produced by hitting the Shift key plus what would normally be a backslash if not "shifted."  If you ever hear someone refer to pipe when reading something as literally as possible they're referring to that vertical bar.

This is very commonly used as a "chunk separator" in a single line of text. 
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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Mcginnis, Barbara
 

I am assuming the vertical tab is on a web page or an e-mail.  When you are working with G-mail and reading line by line, you hear reply vertical bar, forward, vertical bar, print,  vertical bar.  It is actually a small bar that is no more than ¼ inches long running top to bottom.  I have never tried to stop JAWS from speaking the vertical bar because I don’t know if you can.

 

From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 8:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

Brian:

 

I can do this, but need to know where to send the files,  since I don’t think the list will accommoddate the attachments.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 8:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

Tom,

       If you've got an "old word" file where it's announced, and a "new word" file where it's announced, I'll happily have a look to see what's up.  If it's very easy for you to tell me the phrase that precedes "vertical tab" that would make things a bit faster for me, but it's not necessary.
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Re: Further to the virtical tab discussion

Kimber Gardner
 

Thanks Bill. Neither of those entries got rid of new line for me. I
think I'll give FS a call.

On 6/2/16, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
Hi, Kimber. Try entering these two entries into the dictionary. \013 and
\010. These are for the linefeed and carriage return respectively, and these

are the ASCII symbols which signal a new line.

I hope this helps you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimber Gardner" <kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 5:26 AM
Subject: Further to the virtical tab discussion


Hi All,

The vertical tab announcements are now gone thanks to the excellent
instructions previously posted. But now I would like to rid myself of
the "new line" announcement at the termination of every single line
that doesn't terminate with a paragraph symbol.

Before someone suggests that I turn off announcement of symbols, I am
a writer and I need to hear where certain symbols occur like the
paragraph symbol so turning everything off isn't a good option.

I tried using the same steps that worked for the vertical tab problem,
substituting a \n which is the ascii symbol for new line, but it
didn't work.

Does anyone have any other suggestions?

Thanks,
Kimber

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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Incidentally, Carolyn, if you're using a desktop computer with the keyboard in Desktop Layout, Insert 6, 7, 8, 9, and 0 are JAWS commands. Insert plus 6 gives you the Settings Center, Insert plus 7 gives you Window Classes, Insert plus 8 gives you the Keyboard Manager, Insert plus 9 gives you Frame Viewer, and Insert plus 0 gives you Script Manager.

These commands won't do anything wrong, they just open up tools in JAWS.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"


You're right, Shift-6 is the caret, not the and.


Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 9:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Hi, Carol. I don't know how to get it to work. It might not work in a
dictionary entry, but the ASCII value is 11, and it is preceded by the
caret, which is the Shift key plus the number six, followed in this case
by
11
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"


So how do you use ASCII 11 to solve the problem, please? I tried the
dictionary trick, but the trick did not work.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 9:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Hi, Tom. The character which is voicing as a vertical tab has an ASCII
value of eleven.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"


Carolyn:

Bill White set me straight regarding step 4 of your instructions.

I actually wrote the words vertical tab in the add edit field that
came up in the Jaws dictionary, and put a space in the replacement
field.

But, still no luck.

I think this is because the vertical tab is some sort of a computer
character.

Thanks to Bill for the clarification.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 7:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Try:

1. Insert-F2 for JAWS Manager.
2. D for dictionary.
3. Control-Shift-D for default in all programs.
4. Write vertical tab.
5. Next tab hit a Spacebar.
6. Alt-F4, save changes and exit.

I don't know if that will work since this vertical tab statement from
JAWS might be from program or graphics as opposed to text, but it
wouldn't hurt to see if that gave you any relief.
Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom
Behler
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 5:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Hello, everyone.

As you may recall, I'm working to get Office 365 up and running on a
fairly new Windows 7 laptop. I am using the latest build of Jaws 17.

I have noticed that in many Outlook 2016 e-mails, and especially in
Microsoft Word documents, Jaws keeps saying "vertical tab", as I
navigate whatever it is I'm reading.

I don't recall encountering this behavior in the previous versions
of Outlook and Word that I have used.

How can I get Jaws to stop reading the vertical tabs, whatever they
are?

As I'm sure yu can imagine, this vertical tab designation is very
distracting.

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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Carolyn. We have since determined that Shift plus 6 will not work. Nevertheless, Shift plus 6 should be the caret. Shift plus 7 is the and sign.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"


When I pressed Shift-6, I got the & sign. I thought about trying
Insert-6, but was afraid I might end up doing something that ought not to
be done. Thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 9:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Putting 11 in the dictionary won't work. the way ASCII values are
expressed is with the Shift plus the number six on the numbers row below
the F keys followed by the ASCII value which in this case is 11.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"


Ok, Bill.

I put 11 in the first Jaws dictionary field, followed by a space, but
still no luck.

It may be time to call FS on this issue.

I'm not sure iff I'll get to it tomorrow, but if I do, I'll keep
everyone posted.

Thanks all for your patience.

And, of course, I'll continue to take any and all suggestions.

Tom behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Hi, Tom. The character which is voicing as a vertical tab has an ASCII
value of eleven.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"


Carolyn:

Bill White set me straight regarding step 4 of your instructions.

I actually wrote the words vertical tab in the add edit field that
came up in the Jaws dictionary, and put a space in the replacement
field.

But, still no luck.

I think this is because the vertical tab is some sort of a computer
character.

Thanks to Bill for the clarification.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 7:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Try:

1. Insert-F2 for JAWS Manager.
2. D for dictionary.
3. Control-Shift-D for default in all programs.
4. Write vertical tab.
5. Next tab hit a Spacebar.
6. Alt-F4, save changes and exit.

I don't know if that will work since this vertical tab statement from
JAWS might be from program or graphics as opposed to text, but it
wouldn't hurt to see if that gave you any relief.
Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom
Behler
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 5:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Hello, everyone.

As you may recall, I'm working to get Office 365 up and running on a
fairly new Windows 7 laptop. I am using the latest build of Jaws 17.

I have noticed that in many Outlook 2016 e-mails, and especially in
Microsoft Word documents, Jaws keeps saying "vertical tab", as I
navigate whatever it is I'm reading.

I don't recall encountering this behavior in the previous versions of
Outlook and Word that I have used.

How can I get Jaws to stop reading the vertical tabs, whatever they
are?

As I'm sure yu can imagine, this vertical tab designation is very
distracting.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
















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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

You're right, Shift-6 is the caret, not the and.


Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 9:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Hi, Carol. I don't know how to get it to work. It might not work in a
dictionary entry, but the ASCII value is 11, and it is preceded by the
caret, which is the Shift key plus the number six, followed in this case
by
11
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"


So how do you use ASCII 11 to solve the problem, please? I tried the
dictionary trick, but the trick did not work.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 9:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Hi, Tom. The character which is voicing as a vertical tab has an ASCII
value of eleven.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"


Carolyn:

Bill White set me straight regarding step 4 of your instructions.

I actually wrote the words vertical tab in the add edit field that
came up in the Jaws dictionary, and put a space in the replacement
field.

But, still no luck.

I think this is because the vertical tab is some sort of a computer
character.

Thanks to Bill for the clarification.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 7:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Try:

1. Insert-F2 for JAWS Manager.
2. D for dictionary.
3. Control-Shift-D for default in all programs.
4. Write vertical tab.
5. Next tab hit a Spacebar.
6. Alt-F4, save changes and exit.

I don't know if that will work since this vertical tab statement from
JAWS might be from program or graphics as opposed to text, but it
wouldn't hurt to see if that gave you any relief.
Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom
Behler
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 5:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Hello, everyone.

As you may recall, I'm working to get Office 365 up and running on a
fairly new Windows 7 laptop. I am using the latest build of Jaws 17.

I have noticed that in many Outlook 2016 e-mails, and especially in
Microsoft Word documents, Jaws keeps saying "vertical tab", as I
navigate whatever it is I'm reading.

I don't recall encountering this behavior in the previous versions
of Outlook and Word that I have used.

How can I get Jaws to stop reading the vertical tabs, whatever they
are?

As I'm sure yu can imagine, this vertical tab designation is very
distracting.

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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

When I pressed Shift-6, I got the & sign. I thought about trying
Insert-6, but was afraid I might end up doing something that ought not to
be done. Thanks.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 9:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Putting 11 in the dictionary won't work. the way ASCII values are
expressed is with the Shift plus the number six on the numbers row below
the F keys followed by the ASCII value which in this case is 11.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"


Ok, Bill.

I put 11 in the first Jaws dictionary field, followed by a space, but
still no luck.

It may be time to call FS on this issue.

I'm not sure iff I'll get to it tomorrow, but if I do, I'll keep
everyone posted.

Thanks all for your patience.

And, of course, I'll continue to take any and all suggestions.

Tom behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Hi, Tom. The character which is voicing as a vertical tab has an ASCII
value of eleven.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"


Carolyn:

Bill White set me straight regarding step 4 of your instructions.

I actually wrote the words vertical tab in the add edit field that
came up in the Jaws dictionary, and put a space in the replacement
field.

But, still no luck.

I think this is because the vertical tab is some sort of a computer
character.

Thanks to Bill for the clarification.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 7:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Try:

1. Insert-F2 for JAWS Manager.
2. D for dictionary.
3. Control-Shift-D for default in all programs.
4. Write vertical tab.
5. Next tab hit a Spacebar.
6. Alt-F4, save changes and exit.

I don't know if that will work since this vertical tab statement from
JAWS might be from program or graphics as opposed to text, but it
wouldn't hurt to see if that gave you any relief.
Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom
Behler
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 5:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Hello, everyone.

As you may recall, I'm working to get Office 365 up and running on a
fairly new Windows 7 laptop. I am using the latest build of Jaws 17.

I have noticed that in many Outlook 2016 e-mails, and especially in
Microsoft Word documents, Jaws keeps saying "vertical tab", as I
navigate whatever it is I'm reading.

I don't recall encountering this behavior in the previous versions of
Outlook and Word that I have used.

How can I get Jaws to stop reading the vertical tabs, whatever they
are?

As I'm sure yu can imagine, this vertical tab designation is very
distracting.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
















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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Matthew Bullis
 

Are there similar instructions on how to get Jaws not to say cell cell cell every time it moves over a cell in a table?
Thanks,
Matthew

On Jun 2, 2016, at 5:08 AM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com> wrote:

I can happily report that these steps worked fabulously. I'm dancing
with joy over here. No more vertical tab announcement! Woow!

Thanks, Mike, for sharing these steps.

On 6/2/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@charter.net> wrote:
Hi All,

Here are steps from another list, & this dude that wrote the steps is 1 of
the smartest computer / Jaws users I've ever come across!

From: Brian Lee
Hello Tom,

The following steps should work:
1. Press JAWS key with D to bring up the dictionary manager.

2. Use CTRL with Shift and D to load the default dictionary manager.

3. Tab to the tree view and press E for English.

4. Expand the English option by using right arrow key.

5. Use down arrow key and find the appropriate synthesizer. You can
also press E for Eloquence, V for ?Vocalizer, V until you find Vocalizer
Expressive, etc.

6. Use right arrow to open the appropriate synthesizer item.

7. Press a backslash key until you find a backslash followed by 011.
JAWS should tell you that this equals Vertical Tab.

8. Tab to the Change button and press spacebar.

9. In the Actual Word field should be the \011. Tab to the
Replacement Word field and press spacebar one time.

10. Tab to OK and use spacebar.

11. Use CTRL with S to save changes.

12. Close the window using Alt with F4.

13. You might or might not need to restart JAWS.
The above worked for me using a Vocalizer Expressive profile.
Take care.
Brian Lee
brianllee@charter.net

Take care.
Mike
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software. Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary King
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"


Tom,
Can you place the PC cursor on the symbol that is indicated by JAWS as a
vertical tab? If so, place it there and bring up the JAWS Dictionary with
JAWS Key d. Then press Control Shift d if you want the replacement to be
in
all programs. Press Spacebar on the Add Button. The symbol should appear
in the Actual Word field. Then put a space in the Replacement Word field.
Press Enter, Control s to save and then exit the JAWS Dictionary.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"


Bill:

I tried this, but still no luck.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Putting 11 in the dictionary won't work. the way ASCII values are
expressed
is with the Shift plus the number six on the numbers row below the F keys
followed by the ASCII value which in this case is 11.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"


Ok, Bill.

I put 11 in the first Jaws dictionary field, followed by a space, but
still no luck.

It may be time to call FS on this issue.

I'm not sure iff I'll get to it tomorrow, but if I do, I'll keep
everyone posted.

Thanks all for your patience.

And, of course, I'll continue to take any and all suggestions.

Tom behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Hi, Tom. The character which is voicing as a vertical tab has an ASCII
value of eleven.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"


Carolyn:

Bill White set me straight regarding step 4 of your instructions.

I actually wrote the words vertical tab in the add edit field that
came up in the Jaws dictionary, and put a space in the replacement
field.

But, still no luck.

I think this is because the vertical tab is some sort of a computer
character.

Thanks to Bill for the clarification.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 7:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Try:

1. Insert-F2 for JAWS Manager.
2. D for dictionary.
3. Control-Shift-D for default in all programs.
4. Write vertical tab.
5. Next tab hit a Spacebar.
6. Alt-F4, save changes and exit.

I don't know if that will work since this vertical tab statement from
JAWS might be from program or graphics as opposed to text, but it
wouldn't hurt to see if that gave you any relief.
Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom
Behler
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 5:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Hello, everyone.

As you may recall, I'm working to get Office 365 up and running on a
fairly new Windows 7 laptop. I am using the latest build of Jaws 17.

I have noticed that in many Outlook 2016 e-mails, and especially in
Microsoft Word documents, Jaws keeps saying "vertical tab", as I
navigate whatever it is I'm reading.

I don't recall encountering this behavior in the previous versions of
Outlook and Word that I have used.

How can I get Jaws to stop reading the vertical tabs, whatever they
are?

As I'm sure yu can imagine, this vertical tab designation is very
distracting.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
















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Re: Further to the virtical tab discussion

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Kimber. Try entering these two entries into the dictionary. \013 and \010. These are for the linefeed and carriage return respectively, and these are the ASCII symbols which signal a new line.

I hope this helps you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimber Gardner" <kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 5:26 AM
Subject: Further to the virtical tab discussion


Hi All,

The vertical tab announcements are now gone thanks to the excellent
instructions previously posted. But now I would like to rid myself of
the "new line" announcement at the termination of every single line
that doesn't terminate with a paragraph symbol.

Before someone suggests that I turn off announcement of symbols, I am
a writer and I need to hear where certain symbols occur like the
paragraph symbol so turning everything off isn't a good option.

I tried using the same steps that worked for the vertical tab problem,
substituting a \n which is the ascii symbol for new line, but it
didn't work.

Does anyone have any other suggestions?

Thanks,
Kimber

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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

Tom Behler
 

I have these steps from the other list, and will try them.

 

Hopefully, others will benefit from them if they do indeed work for this issue.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 12:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

Hi All,

 

Here are steps from another list, & this dude that wrote the steps is 1 of the smartest computer / Jaws users I've ever come across!

 

From: Brian Lee

Hello Tom,

The following steps should work:
1.       Press JAWS key with D to bring up the dictionary manager.

2.       Use CTRL with Shift and D to load the default dictionary manager.

3.       Tab to the tree view and press E for English.

4.       Expand the English option by using right arrow key.

5.       Use down arrow key and find the appropriate synthesizer.  You can
also press E for Eloquence, V for ?Vocalizer, V until you find Vocalizer
Expressive, etc.

6.       Use right arrow to open the appropriate synthesizer item.

7.       Press a backslash key until you find a backslash followed by 011.
JAWS should tell you that this equals Vertical Tab. 

8.       Tab to the Change button and press spacebar.

9.       In the Actual Word field should be the \011.  Tab to the
Replacement Word field and press spacebar one time. 

10.   Tab to OK and use spacebar.

11.   Use CTRL with S to save changes.

12.   Close the window using Alt with F4.

13.   You might or might not need to restart JAWS.
The above worked for me using a Vocalizer Expressive profile.  
Take care.
Brian Lee
brianllee@...

Take care.
Mike
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Gary King

Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 8:58 PM

Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"

 

Tom,
Can you place the PC cursor on the symbol that is indicated by JAWS as a
vertical tab?  If so, place it there and bring up the JAWS Dictionary with
JAWS Key d.  Then press Control Shift d if you want the replacement to be in
all programs.  Press Spacebar on the Add Button.  The symbol should appear
in the Actual Word field.  Then put a space in the Replacement Word field.
Press Enter, Control s to save and then exit the JAWS Dictionary.

Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"


> Bill:
>
> I tried this, but still no luck.
>
> Tom Behler
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
> White
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:41 PM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
>
> Putting 11 in the dictionary won't work. the way ASCII values are
> expressed
> is with the Shift plus the number six on the numbers row below the F keys
> followed by the ASCII value which in this case is 11.
> Bill White billwhite92701@...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
> To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:22 PM
> Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
>
>
>> Ok, Bill.
>>
>> I put 11 in the first Jaws dictionary field, followed by a space, but
>> still no luck.
>>
>> It may be time to call FS on this issue.
>>
>> I'm  not sure iff I'll get to it tomorrow, but if I do,  I'll keep
>> everyone posted.
>>
>> Thanks all for your patience.
>>
>> And, of course, I'll continue to take any and all suggestions.
>>
>> Tom behler
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
>> White
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:17 PM
>> To: main@jfw.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
>>
>> Hi, Tom. The character which is voicing as a vertical tab has an ASCII
>> value of eleven.
>> Bill White billwhite92701@...
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...>
>> To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
>>
>>
>>> Carolyn:
>>>
>>> Bill White set me straight regarding step 4 of your instructions.
>>>
>>> I actually wrote the words vertical tab in the add edit field that
>>> came up in the Jaws dictionary, and put a space in the replacement
>>> field.
>>>
>>> But,  still no luck.
>>>
>>> I think this is because the vertical tab is some sort of a computer
>>> character.
>>>
>>> Thanks to Bill for the clarification.
>>>
>>> Tom Behler
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> Carolyn Arnold
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 7:35 PM
>>> To: main@jfw.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
>>>
>>> Try:
>>>
>>> 1. Insert-F2 for JAWS Manager.
>>> 2. D for dictionary.
>>> 3. Control-Shift-D for default in all programs.
>>> 4. Write vertical tab.
>>> 5. Next tab hit a Spacebar.
>>> 6. Alt-F4, save changes and exit.
>>>
>>> I don't know if that will work since this vertical tab statement from
>>> JAWS might be from program or graphics as opposed to text, but it
>>> wouldn't hurt to see if that gave you any relief.
>>> Bye for now,
>>>
>>> Carolyn
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom
>>> Behler
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 5:08 PM
>>> To: main@jfw.groups.io
>>> Subject: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
>>>
>>> Hello, everyone.
>>>
>>> As you may recall, I'm working to get Office 365 up and running on a
>>> fairly new Windows 7 laptop.  I am using the latest build of Jaws 17.
>>>
>>> I have noticed that in many Outlook 2016 e-mails, and especially in
>>> Microsoft Word documents, Jaws keeps saying "vertical tab", as I
>>> navigate whatever it is I'm reading.
>>>
>>> I don't recall encountering  this behavior in the previous versions of
>>> Outlook and Word that I have used.
>>>
>>> How can I get Jaws to stop reading the vertical tabs, whatever they are?
>>>
>>> As I'm sure yu can imagine, this vertical tab designation is very
>>> distracting.
>>>
>>> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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