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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Kimber Gardner
I can happily report that these steps worked fabulously. I'm dancing
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with joy over here. No more vertical tab announcement! Woow! Thanks, Mike, for sharing these steps.
On 6/2/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@charter.net> wrote:
Hi All, --
Kimberly
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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Mike. The only thing I would add to this post is that if
the value beginning with the backslash is not in the default dictionary under
english, and under your particular synthesizer, you may need to press the Add
button, instead of the Change button, add the \011 value in the Real Word field,
then tab to the replacement field and type the space character as the
replacement word. The other steps are valid.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
Hi All,
Here are steps from another list, & this dude
that wrote the steps is 1 of the smartest computer / Jaws users I've ever come
across!
From: Brian Lee
Hello Tom, The following steps should work: 1. Press JAWS key with D to bring up the dictionary manager. 2. Use CTRL with Shift and D to load the default dictionary manager. 3. Tab to the tree view and press E for English. 4. Expand the English option by using right arrow key. 5. Use down arrow key and find the appropriate synthesizer. You can also press E for Eloquence, V for ?Vocalizer, V until you find Vocalizer Expressive, etc. 6. Use right arrow to open the appropriate synthesizer item. 7. Press a backslash key until you find a backslash followed by 011. JAWS should tell you that this equals Vertical Tab. 8. Tab to the Change button and press spacebar. 9. In the Actual Word field should be the \011. Tab to the Replacement Word field and press spacebar one time. 10. Tab to OK and use spacebar. 11. Use CTRL with S to save changes. 12. Close the window using Alt with F4. 13. You might or might not need to restart JAWS. The above worked for me using a Vocalizer Expressive profile. Take care. Brian Lee brianllee@... Take care. Mike FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software. Go Dodgers!
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From: Gary King
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" Can you place the PC cursor on the symbol that is indicated by JAWS as a vertical tab? If so, place it there and bring up the JAWS Dictionary with JAWS Key d. Then press Control Shift d if you want the replacement to be in all programs. Press Spacebar on the Add Button. The symbol should appear in the Actual Word field. Then put a space in the Replacement Word field. Press Enter, Control s to save and then exit the JAWS Dictionary. Gary King w4wkz@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:04 PM Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" > Bill: > > I tried this, but still no luck. > > Tom Behler > > > -----Original Message----- > From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill > White > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:41 PM > To: main@jfw.groups.io > Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" > > Putting 11 in the dictionary won't work. the way ASCII values are > expressed > is with the Shift plus the number six on the numbers row below the F keys > followed by the ASCII value which in this case is 11. > Bill White billwhite92701@... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...> > To: <main@jfw.groups.io> > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:22 PM > Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" > > >> Ok, Bill. >> >> I put 11 in the first Jaws dictionary field, followed by a space, but >> still no luck. >> >> It may be time to call FS on this issue. >> >> I'm not sure iff I'll get to it tomorrow, but if I do, I'll keep >> everyone posted. >> >> Thanks all for your patience. >> >> And, of course, I'll continue to take any and all suggestions. >> >> Tom behler >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill >> White >> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:17 PM >> To: main@jfw.groups.io >> Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" >> >> Hi, Tom. The character which is voicing as a vertical tab has an ASCII >> value of eleven. >> Bill White billwhite92701@... >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...> >> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:14 PM >> Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" >> >> >>> Carolyn: >>> >>> Bill White set me straight regarding step 4 of your instructions. >>> >>> I actually wrote the words vertical tab in the add edit field that >>> came up in the Jaws dictionary, and put a space in the replacement >>> field. >>> >>> But, still no luck. >>> >>> I think this is because the vertical tab is some sort of a computer >>> character. >>> >>> Thanks to Bill for the clarification. >>> >>> Tom Behler >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of >>> Carolyn Arnold >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 7:35 PM >>> To: main@jfw.groups.io >>> Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" >>> >>> Try: >>> >>> 1. Insert-F2 for JAWS Manager. >>> 2. D for dictionary. >>> 3. Control-Shift-D for default in all programs. >>> 4. Write vertical tab. >>> 5. Next tab hit a Spacebar. >>> 6. Alt-F4, save changes and exit. >>> >>> I don't know if that will work since this vertical tab statement from >>> JAWS might be from program or graphics as opposed to text, but it >>> wouldn't hurt to see if that gave you any relief. >>> Bye for now, >>> >>> Carolyn >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom >>> Behler >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 5:08 PM >>> To: main@jfw.groups.io >>> Subject: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" >>> >>> Hello, everyone. >>> >>> As you may recall, I'm working to get Office 365 up and running on a >>> fairly new Windows 7 laptop. I am using the latest build of Jaws 17. >>> >>> I have noticed that in many Outlook 2016 e-mails, and especially in >>> Microsoft Word documents, Jaws keeps saying "vertical tab", as I >>> navigate whatever it is I'm reading. >>> >>> I don't recall encountering this behavior in the previous versions of >>> Outlook and Word that I have used. >>> >>> How can I get Jaws to stop reading the vertical tabs, whatever they are? >>> >>> As I'm sure yu can imagine, this vertical tab designation is very >>> distracting. >>> >>> Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>> signature database 13582 (20160601) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature >> database 13582 (20160601) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 13582 (20160601) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 13582 (20160601) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > >
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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Martin Blackwell
All I can say to that is, Gosh, you may be as old as I am!
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Martin, I know what it is, but it is so very seldom used (or even known about) that I'm really wondering if what is being announced as "vertical tab" is actually a vertical tab. I come from the days of computing when there were punch cards, 300 BAUD lines, tractor feed paper, and when carriage return was just that and a line feed character was necessary to bump the paper (or screen cursor) to the next line. The only use that I can conceivably find for vertical tab these days is if one is writing poetry where one wants line breaks but doesn't want the automatic paragraph break that comes from hitting return. Were I writing this way I'd find it much easier to set paragraph spacing such that there was "no space after paragraph" and actually have to hit Enter twice to create a blank line. I'd love to have an example of a file where "vertical tab" is being announced to see how it's laid out on the screen and whether the vertical tab is actually there or if that's being used to describe something else.
~ William James
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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Gary King
Tom,
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Can you place the PC cursor on the symbol that is indicated by JAWS as a vertical tab? If so, place it there and bring up the JAWS Dictionary with JAWS Key d. Then press Control Shift d if you want the replacement to be in all programs. Press Spacebar on the Add Button. The symbol should appear in the Actual Word field. Then put a space in the Replacement Word field. Press Enter, Control s to save and then exit the JAWS Dictionary. Gary King w4wkz@bellsouth.net
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From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:04 PM Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" Bill:
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Re: Pronunciation of Geometric Shapes in JAWS
Annabelle Susan Morison
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Is the circle with top right quadrant filled in what you would
consider a "quarter circle"? How would I put it? Would I say that JAWS should
say something like: "symbol145=U+25d4 11010101 upper right quarter
circle"?
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 8:05 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Pronunciation of Geometric Shapes in JAWS This may be a bit more accessible than the PDF file I posted earlier. It deals strictly with geometric shape characters in Unicode: http://www.unicode.org/charts/nameslist/n_25A0.html 25CB begins a chunk of Circle characters including the one with top right
quadrant filled in at 25D4
~ William James
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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Louise Johnson <herclouise@...>
Hi well I am using outlook 2013 and have this happen only in word. It isn’t happening in email so if this helps anyone please share the answer as I don’t like hearing it when putting together documentsLouise and princess Kiara
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: June 1, 2016 5:24 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Brian:
I can send you a sample file where the vertical tabs are being announced, if you’d like.
One thing I have just discovered is that vertical tabs do not appear to be announced in files that have been prepared with previous versions of word such as Word 2003, 2007, or 2010.
It seems to be most prevalent with files in Word 2016, or in e-mails in Outlook 2016 in Office 365.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Martin, I know what it is, but it is so very seldom used (or even known about) that I'm really wondering if what is being announced as "vertical tab" is actually a vertical tab. I come from the days of computing when there were punch cards, 300 BAUD lines, tractor feed paper, and when carriage return was just that and a line feed character was necessary to bump the paper (or screen cursor) to the next line. The only use that I can conceivably find for vertical tab these days is if one is writing poetry where one wants line breaks but doesn't want the automatic paragraph break that comes from hitting return. Were I writing this way I'd find it much easier to set paragraph spacing such that there was "no space after paragraph" and actually have to hit Enter twice to create a blank line. I'd love to have an example of a file where "vertical tab" is being announced to see how it's laid out on the screen and whether the vertical tab is actually there or if that's being used to describe something else.
~ William James
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Re: Pronunciation of Geometric Shapes in JAWS
This may be a bit more accessible than the PDF file I posted earlier. It deals strictly with geometric shape characters in Unicode: http://www.unicode.org/charts/nameslist/n_25A0.html 25CB begins a chunk of Circle characters including the one with top right quadrant filled in at 25D4
~ William James
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Re: Pronunciation of Geometric Shapes in JAWS
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Annabelle. I brought up a Wikipedia article about Unicode
and geometric shapes. There is a table, but nowhere in that table is there a
representation of the quarter circle. I have seen this in the past as well, but
can't find one right now to check its character value.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Bill, See if you can merge forces with Annabelle Susan Morrison in her thread, Pronunciation of Geometric Shapes in JAWS. Even though Vertical Tab (VT) is not a geometric shape it has a Unicode hex value of U+000B and decimal value for ASCII of 11. If you can set one Unicode character to be consistently pronounced (or not pronounced, as the case may be) regardless of context you can do it for another. She may be able to help you to get JAWS to stop saying anything at all when it encounters a Vertical Tab. This goes into areas of JAWS that I have no real familiarity with.
~ William James
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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Tom Behler
Bill:
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I tried this, but still no luck. Tom Behler
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:41 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" Putting 11 in the dictionary won't work. the way ASCII values are expressed is with the Shift plus the number six on the numbers row below the F keys followed by the ASCII value which in this case is 11. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:22 PM Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" Ok, Bill. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 13582 (20160601) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
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Re: Pronunciation of Geometric Shapes in JAWS
Anabelle, I can't really answer your question. An unselected radio button visually looks like an empty circle. There is no portion of it that is filled in. A selected radio button looks like a fully filled in circle. When you start getting into the JAWS Virtual cursor as opposed to the system cursor things get really complicated since JAWS essentially changes two dimensions, horizontal and vertical, into a long single dimension or chain as best I can understand it. The way it does that mapping is not always intuitively equivalent to how a sighted person processes a layout that is supposed to use visual cueing to suggest what order it should be traversed in.
~ William James
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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Carol. I don't know how to get it to work. It might not work in a dictionary entry, but the ASCII value is 11, and it is preceded by the caret, which is the Shift key plus the number six, followed in this case by 11
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From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:32 PM Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" So how do you use ASCII 11 to solve the problem, please? I tried the __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 13582 (20160601) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Putting 11 in the dictionary won't work. the way ASCII values are expressed is with the Shift plus the number six on the numbers row below the F keys followed by the ASCII value which in this case is 11.
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Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:22 PM Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" Ok, Bill. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 13582 (20160601) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
So how do you use ASCII 11 to solve the problem, please? I tried the
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dictionary trick, but the trick did not work. Bye for now, Carolyn
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 9:17 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" Hi, Tom. The character which is voicing as a vertical tab has an ASCII value of eleven. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:14 PM Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" Carolyn:field. are?
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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
I tried it too, and still an e-mail said Vertical Tab. It is annoying. I
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hope 18 gets it better. Bye for now, Carolyn
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 9:15 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" Carolyn: Bill White set me straight regarding step 4 of your instructions. I actually wrote the words vertical tab in the add edit field that came up in the Jaws dictionary, and put a space in the replacement field. But, still no luck. I think this is because the vertical tab is some sort of a computer character. Thanks to Bill for the clarification. Tom Behler -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 7:35 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" Try: 1. Insert-F2 for JAWS Manager. 2. D for dictionary. 3. Control-Shift-D for default in all programs. 4. Write vertical tab. 5. Next tab hit a Spacebar. 6. Alt-F4, save changes and exit. I don't know if that will work since this vertical tab statement from JAWS might be from program or graphics as opposed to text, but it wouldn't hurt to see if that gave you any relief. Bye for now, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 5:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" Hello, everyone. As you may recall, I'm working to get Office 365 up and running on a fairly new Windows 7 laptop. I am using the latest build of Jaws 17. I have noticed that in many Outlook 2016 e-mails, and especially in Microsoft Word documents, Jaws keeps saying "vertical tab", as I navigate whatever it is I'm reading. I don't recall encountering this behavior in the previous versions of Outlook and Word that I have used. How can I get Jaws to stop reading the vertical tabs, whatever they are? As I'm sure yu can imagine, this vertical tab designation is very distracting. Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
OK, Doc Tom, here's what I suggested, that you use JAWS dictionary, by
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typing in vertical tab in the place where the dictionary says add, then tab once to put in the word that you want pronounced, where you spell it however you can to make JAWS pronounce it the way you want it to, and hit Spacebar there. On my computer, I can hit Insert-D and I'm in the Dictionary, but on older programs, and I can also do this, to use the dictionary, you hit Insert-F2. You would be in JAWS Manager, so you type d to get into the dictionary. Enter. It will ask you to hit Control-Shift-D, if you want your substitute in all programs. If you want it only in the specific program you are using for e-mail, do not hit the Control-Shift-D. When you Entered, you should be at Add. So Add means add whatever word you want JAWS to pronounce in another way. You type in the add place the correct word. Then you go to the next tab and type what you want JAWS to say. For instance in mine, I changed per se, because JAWS makes it sound like per see. So at that second tab I typed per say, and it has a more acceptable pronunciation. Please excuse me, if I told you stuff you already know or more than you ever wanted to know about JAWS Dictionary. I use it a lot. Bye for now, Carolyn
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 8:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" Carolyn: Where would I find the alt vertical tab that you mention in step 4? Tom Behler -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 7:35 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" Try: 1. Insert-F2 for JAWS Manager. 2. D for dictionary. 3. Control-Shift-D for default in all programs. 4. Write vertical tab. 5. Next tab hit a Spacebar. 6. Alt-F4, save changes and exit. I don't know if that will work since this vertical tab statement from JAWS might be from program or graphics as opposed to text, but it wouldn't hurt to see if that gave you any relief. Bye for now, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 5:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" Hello, everyone. As you may recall, I'm working to get Office 365 up and running on a fairly new Windows 7 laptop. I am using the latest build of Jaws 17. I have noticed that in many Outlook 2016 e-mails, and especially in Microsoft Word documents, Jaws keeps saying "vertical tab", as I navigate whatever it is I'm reading. I don't recall encountering this behavior in the previous versions of Outlook and Word that I have used. How can I get Jaws to stop reading the vertical tabs, whatever they are? As I'm sure yu can imagine, this vertical tab designation is very distracting. Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Tom Behler
Ok, Bill.
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I put 11 in the first Jaws dictionary field, followed by a space, but still no luck. It may be time to call FS on this issue. I'm not sure iff I'll get to it tomorrow, but if I do, I'll keep everyone posted. Thanks all for your patience. And, of course, I'll continue to take any and all suggestions. Tom behler
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:17 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" Hi, Tom. The character which is voicing as a vertical tab has an ASCII value of eleven. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:14 PM Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" Carolyn: __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 13582 (20160601) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Tom. The character which is voicing as a vertical tab has an ASCII value of eleven.
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Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:14 PM Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" Carolyn: __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 13582 (20160601) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
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Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Tom Behler
Carolyn:
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Bill White set me straight regarding step 4 of your instructions. I actually wrote the words vertical tab in the add edit field that came up in the Jaws dictionary, and put a space in the replacement field. But, still no luck. I think this is because the vertical tab is some sort of a computer character. Thanks to Bill for the clarification. Tom Behler
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 7:35 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" Try: 1. Insert-F2 for JAWS Manager. 2. D for dictionary. 3. Control-Shift-D for default in all programs. 4. Write vertical tab. 5. Next tab hit a Spacebar. 6. Alt-F4, save changes and exit. I don't know if that will work since this vertical tab statement from JAWS might be from program or graphics as opposed to text, but it wouldn't hurt to see if that gave you any relief. Bye for now, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 5:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab" Hello, everyone. As you may recall, I'm working to get Office 365 up and running on a fairly new Windows 7 laptop. I am using the latest build of Jaws 17. I have noticed that in many Outlook 2016 e-mails, and especially in Microsoft Word documents, Jaws keeps saying "vertical tab", as I navigate whatever it is I'm reading. I don't recall encountering this behavior in the previous versions of Outlook and Word that I have used. How can I get Jaws to stop reading the vertical tabs, whatever they are? As I'm sure yu can imagine, this vertical tab designation is very distracting. Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
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