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Re: suggestions for a lenovo laptop please

Jason White
 

I'm very pleased so far with the Lenovo P50S laptop that I am using at work.
The full keyboard (including numeric key pad) allows you to use JAWS or
another screen reader in desktop keyboard layout, rather than in laptop
layout.

Performance is excellent, due in particular to the 500GB SSD which is used for
storage. From meory, there is also the option of an LTE modem for connecting
to mobile networks. You can choose the amount of memory installed and the CPU
when buying.

It has a touch screen, which JAWS supports (as do some other screen readers).
This can be useful if you want to know how applications are presented on
screen.

It supports Intel Management Engine firmware, which is meant to enable a
remote technical support person to access it securely over a network for
such purposes as installing the operating system, changing firmware
configuration settings, etc. I have not activated or tried to use this mode. I
strongly suspect that it would present access difficulties to technical
support people who are blind, but it may be partially accessible, since it
operates as a Web server (on a non-standard port).

This laptop can be purchased with a docking station, from which it obtains
power and through which it can connect to external devices (a keyboard, a
monitor and whatever else you wish to attach over USB). To use it as a laptop,
you simply press a button and slide it out of the docking station.

This laptop is heavy, so be warned, although it isn't as heavy as they used to
be in the 1990s. As a result of having a full keyboard, it's longer than most
laptops, while still fitting into my backpack. Your situation may be
different, of course.

If I were in the market for a laptop myself at the moment, I would strongly
consider buying one.


Re: Key Command for adding a row

Dale Alton <blinkydale@...>
 

In the cell in question I would do a "ctrl+1 and make sure when the
formatting comes up you are on number find time and press enter. HTH

Denver Dale

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 6:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Key Command for adding a row

hmmm, that was great information, thanks. now, how would you clear the
formatting of a cell from let say 24 hour clock data to 12 hour data? i
entered 7:00 in a cell without adding the PM to the data and now when i try
to enter 7:00 PM i get 1900 in the cell. thanks for any helpin advance.



Legend has it that on Thursday 5/26/2016 06:16 PM, Dale Alton said:
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Denver Dale

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cindy
Ray
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 1:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Key Command for adding a row

I am using MS Office 2013 and JAWS 17, along with Windows 10. I am
wondering how to add in a row in the spread sheet.
Thanks.
Cindy

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Re: Key Command for adding a row

ratshtron <northstar1950@...>
 

hmmm, that was great information, thanks. now, how would you clear the formatting of a cell from let say 24 hour clock data to 12 hour data? i entered 7:00 in a cell without adding the PM to the data and now when i try to enter 7:00 PM i get 1900 in the cell. thanks for any helpin advance.



Legend has it that on Thursday 5/26/2016 06:16 PM, Dale Alton said:
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Denver Dale

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 1:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Key Command for adding a row

I am using MS Office 2013 and JAWS 17, along with Windows 10. I am wondering how to add in a row in the spread sheet.
Thanks.
Cindy

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Re: Key Command for adding a row

Dale Alton <blinkydale@...>
 

Control+numpad +

 

Denver Dale

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 1:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Key Command for adding a row

 

I am using MS Office 2013 and JAWS 17, along with Windows 10. I am wondering how to add in a row in the spread sheet.

Thanks.

Cindy

 


Re: Key Command for adding a row

ratshtron <northstar1950@...>
 

hmmm, not sure of an actual key command, but press the applications key then down arrow to insert and press enter, then down arrow to entire row and press enter. an empty row will be inserted above the row you are currently on.


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Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

The best way to learn is to play with it. Go to Settings Center, speech and sounds Schemes. Open it. look at the default scheme and its description, then bring up the next one with the spacebar, and do the same thing. Perhaps you'll want to try a few of them to see what melts your butter. The good folk at FS have already told you more than I can in this short space, but it's a really powerful custom feature. If you use Word much, you'll notice a cool default scheme that loads when Word does--different voices for different functions.

Ted

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Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 1:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

Please tell me more about this. Thanks, Keith

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

JAWS, it's a setting.

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Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 1:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

How does one pick a sound scheme? Is this within End Note, or something one does within JAWS? Thanks, Keith

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 11:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

You can pick a sound scheme that shows highlighting, and several other characteristics. Go through them, and I'll bet you can find one to meet the need. I seem to recall that you can modify any of the schemes to better suit your purpose, if necessary.

Ted

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

The only difficulty I have had is that when you select the citation type (and you have to use the JAWS curser to do this), the program highlights the fields that you need to fill in. JAWS doesn't seem to let you know what fields are highlighted, but I am familiar enough with the different citation or document types that I just know what to fill in. If I encounter one I don't know, I just look it up.

This is my experience, but someone else may have found a way around this and around having to activate the JAWS curser to select a citation type.

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Sent: May 26, 2016 12:01 PM
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Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

Cynthia Bruce <cynthia.bruce@bellaliant.net> wrote:
Hi Jason,
I have been using Endnote and find that for the most part it works well.

Thanks - that's appreciated.


Re: Key Command for adding a row

Cindy Ray <cindyray@...>
 

Thanks. This did work.

Cindy

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 2:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Key Command for adding a row

 

Hi Cindy, I believe you can still do this by navigating to the spot where you want to insert the row, and then using your applications key to pull up the menu with the insert option.  Then, you can use the arrow keys to find the entire row radio button.  Hope this works for you!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 2:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Key Command for adding a row

 

I am using MS Office 2013 and JAWS 17, along with Windows 10. I am wondering how to add in a row in the spread sheet.

Thanks.

Cindy

 


Re: Key Command for adding a row

"Kevin Hourigan " <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Alt H, I, R.

Cheers Kevin.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
Sent: May 26, 2016 12:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Key Command for adding a row

 

Hi Cindy, I believe you can still do this by navigating to the spot where you want to insert the row, and then using your applications key to pull up the menu with the insert option.  Then, you can use the arrow keys to find the entire row radio button.  Hope this works for you!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 2:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Key Command for adding a row

 

I am using MS Office 2013 and JAWS 17, along with Windows 10. I am wondering how to add in a row in the spread sheet.

Thanks.

Cindy

 


Re: Key Command for adding a row

Michael Mote
 

Hi Cindy, I believe you can still do this by navigating to the spot where you want to insert the row, and then using your applications key to pull up the menu with the insert option.  Then, you can use the arrow keys to find the entire row radio button.  Hope this works for you!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 2:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Key Command for adding a row

 

I am using MS Office 2013 and JAWS 17, along with Windows 10. I am wondering how to add in a row in the spread sheet.

Thanks.

Cindy

 


Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

Mcginnis, Barbara
 

Why would you want a sound scheme on a citation or bibliography entry?

-----Original Message-----
From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. [mailto:kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu]
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 1:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

Please tell me more about this. Thanks, Keith

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

JAWS, it's a setting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 1:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

How does one pick a sound scheme? Is this within End Note, or something one does within JAWS? Thanks, Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 11:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

You can pick a sound scheme that shows highlighting, and several other characteristics. Go through them, and I'll bet you can find one to meet the need. I seem to recall that you can modify any of the schemes to better suit your purpose, if necessary.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

The only difficulty I have had is that when you select the citation type (and you have to use the JAWS curser to do this), the program highlights the fields that you need to fill in. JAWS doesn't seem to let you know what fields are highlighted, but I am familiar enough with the different citation or document types that I just know what to fill in. If I encounter one I don't know, I just look it up.

This is my experience, but someone else may have found a way around this and around having to activate the JAWS curser to select a citation type.

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Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

Cynthia Bruce <cynthia.bruce@bellaliant.net> wrote:
Hi Jason,
I have been using Endnote and find that for the most part it works well.

Thanks - that's appreciated.























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Key Command for adding a row

Cindy Ray <cindyray@...>
 

I am using MS Office 2013 and JAWS 17, along with Windows 10. I am wondering how to add in a row in the spread sheet.

Thanks.

Cindy

 


Re: suggestions for a Lenovo laptop please

Jeanette McAllister PhD
 

I have a Lenovo ThinkPad and it works beautifully with JAWS. Below is some information I found on Quora that may help you with your decision.

Performance

It is hard to sum up performance because both the Ideapad and Thinkpad brands cover numerous products with various different performance goals. However, there are a few things of note which are exclusive to one brand or the other.

So far the Ideapad S series remains the only way to purchase a Lenovo netbook. Lenovo did recently release the Thinkpad X100e, which is of netbook size, but its price and performance is a little greater than most netbooks and its battery life isn't much to talk about.

The Thinkpad W series remains a strong choice for those who are looking for an extremely powerful desktop replacement which will be used for demanding tasks like video editing and 3D rendering. The Thinkpad X series is also in something of a league of its own, with the exception of the X100e. The X200 and X300 products are very thin, very light, yet still quite powerful systems designed for people who are on the road a great deal.

Features

While many people besides businesses buy Thinkpads, their design remains one oriented toward professionals who need a sturdy notebook with superior functionality. As a result, the Thinkpad line has certain trademark features. All Thinkpads are known for their keyboards which provide excellent feedback and rarely suffer from the flex issues found with some other notebooks. Thinkpads are also known for the trackpoint, a small red dot in the middle of the keyboard w

which operates the mouse cursor. Thinkpads have a reputation for durability and features to that end. Depending on the Thinkpad you're looking at you might find a spill-resistant keyboard, active hard drive protection, or a metal roll cage.

The Ideapad line goes entirely in the other direction. Ideapads lack the durability features and have slightly less impressive keyboards, but they do have features which consumers love. Every product line in the Ideapad brand has a model which includes a dedicated GPU, making Ideapad products much better as multimedia computers. This is reinforced by glossy screens which are better for movies and better speakers, particularly in the Y series Ideapad, which can be purchased with a Dolby branded speaker system.

Style

While not everyone will admit it, looks are important when buying any item and particularly when buying a laptop. After all, you'll be looking at this thing every single day for the next few years, so it would be best if it didn't hurt your eyes.

The Thinkpad is full of simple matte black designs and has been forever. Even dinosaurs used the same black slabs on business trips. That isn't to say that Thinkpad products are ugly, however. Their simple design is attractive to people who are turned off by the recent assault of neon-colored products with lid patterns and other such nonsense. The only exception is the recent ThinkPad Edge .

The Ideapad line, on the other hand, embraces said nonsense. The Ideapad products are colorful, shiny, and attractive. Both the U and Y series Ideapad notebooks come in various colors and some include other style enhancements like textured lids.

VERDICT

In this brief comparison, my verdict is easy to make: the Ideapad is the Lenovo for the masses. If you want a laptop which will serve as your primary system but you're not going to be using it in board meetings, an Ideapad is a good fit. If you're a businessperson, or if you're simply interested in a product which values high durability and build quality over everything else, the Thinkpad is more appealing.

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Furness
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 2:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: suggestions for a lenovo laptop please

I am now looking at lenovo brand for a laptop.
Does anyone have a good suggestion on which model?
What would you say the difference is between the Lenovo thinkpad VS ideapad?

Thank you for all information.
Purchasing a new laptop is not easy. Especially since I want to be sure it will work well with Jaws!
Mark F


Re: suggestions for a lenovo laptop please

Kimber Gardner
 

I've had several Lenovos over the years and all have worked well with Jaws.

Kimber

On 5/26/16, Mark Furness <flintman57@gmail.com> wrote:
I am now looking at lenovo brand for a laptop.
Does anyone have a good suggestion on which model?
What would you say the difference is between the Lenovo thinkpad VS
ideapad?

Thank you for all information.
Purchasing a new laptop is not easy. Especially since I want to be sure it
will work well with Jaws!
Mark F


--
Kimberly


suggestions for a lenovo laptop please

Mark Furness
 

I am now looking at lenovo brand for a laptop.
Does anyone have a good suggestion on which model?
What would you say the difference is between the Lenovo thinkpad VS ideapad?

Thank you for all information.
Purchasing a new laptop is not easy. Especially since I want to be sure it will work well with Jaws!
Mark F


Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

Please tell me more about this. Thanks, Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

JAWS, it's a setting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 1:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

How does one pick a sound scheme? Is this within End Note, or something one does within JAWS? Thanks, Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 11:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

You can pick a sound scheme that shows highlighting, and several other characteristics. Go through them, and I'll bet you can find one to meet the need. I seem to recall that you can modify any of the schemes to better suit your purpose, if necessary.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

The only difficulty I have had is that when you select the citation type (and you have to use the JAWS curser to do this), the program highlights the fields that you need to fill in. JAWS doesn't seem to let you know what fields are highlighted, but I am familiar enough with the different citation or document types that I just know what to fill in. If I encounter one I don't know, I just look it up.

This is my experience, but someone else may have found a way around this and around having to activate the JAWS curser to select a citation type.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.io
Sent: May 26, 2016 12:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

Cynthia Bruce <cynthia.bruce@bellaliant.net> wrote:
Hi Jason,
I have been using Endnote and find that for the most part it works well.

Thanks - that's appreciated.


Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

JAWS, it's a setting.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 1:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

How does one pick a sound scheme? Is this within End Note, or something one does within JAWS? Thanks, Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 11:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

You can pick a sound scheme that shows highlighting, and several other characteristics. Go through them, and I'll bet you can find one to meet the need. I seem to recall that you can modify any of the schemes to better suit your purpose, if necessary.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

The only difficulty I have had is that when you select the citation type (and you have to use the JAWS curser to do this), the program highlights the fields that you need to fill in. JAWS doesn't seem to let you know what fields are highlighted, but I am familiar enough with the different citation or document types that I just know what to fill in. If I encounter one I don't know, I just look it up.

This is my experience, but someone else may have found a way around this and around having to activate the JAWS curser to select a citation type.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.io
Sent: May 26, 2016 12:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

Cynthia Bruce <cynthia.bruce@bellaliant.net> wrote:
Hi Jason,
I have been using Endnote and find that for the most part it works well.

Thanks - that's appreciated.


Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

How does one pick a sound scheme? Is this within End Note, or something one does within JAWS? Thanks, Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 11:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

You can pick a sound scheme that shows highlighting, and several other characteristics. Go through them, and I'll bet you can find one to meet the need. I seem to recall that you can modify any of the schemes to better suit your purpose, if necessary.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

The only difficulty I have had is that when you select the citation type (and you have to use the JAWS curser to do this), the program highlights the fields that you need to fill in. JAWS doesn't seem to let you know what fields are highlighted, but I am familiar enough with the different citation or document types that I just know what to fill in. If I encounter one I don't know, I just look it up.

This is my experience, but someone else may have found a way around this and around having to activate the JAWS curser to select a citation type.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.io
Sent: May 26, 2016 12:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

Cynthia Bruce <cynthia.bruce@bellaliant.net> wrote:
Hi Jason,
I have been using Endnote and find that for the most part it works well.

Thanks - that's appreciated.


Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

You can pick a sound scheme that shows highlighting, and several other characteristics. Go through them, and I'll bet you can find one to meet the need. I seem to recall that you can modify any of the schemes to better suit your purpose, if necessary.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

The only difficulty I have had is that when you select the citation type (and you have to use the JAWS curser to do this), the program highlights the fields that you need to fill in. JAWS doesn't seem to let you know what fields are highlighted, but I am familiar enough with the different citation or document types that I just know what to fill in. If I encounter one I don't know, I just look it up.

This is my experience, but someone else may have found a way around this and around having to activate the JAWS curser to select a citation type.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.io
Sent: May 26, 2016 12:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

Cynthia Bruce <cynthia.bruce@bellaliant.net> wrote:
Hi Jason,
I have been using Endnote and find that for the most part it works well.

Thanks - that's appreciated.


Re: Accessibility of "Amazon Music Desktop App for PC"

HAMILTON
 

Kevin:

That was a good, concise summary of what the AODA legislation is "supposed to
do". However, the reality has fallen far short of those objectives, by
several years! In fact, the AODA Alliance has been lobbying continuously, for
years now, for the Provincial Government to "finally" get this legislation on
track for "full accessibility for Ontario by the year 2025"! Even the
Government "does not follow" some of the provisions of the AODA legislation!
For instance, it continues to sign contracts that, in some ways, contribute to
the production of "more barriers to accessibility" for persons with
disabilities.

And in other ways, it seems that this Government has only "partially" enforced
the provisions of this legislation, despite leaving several million dollars
earmarked for enforcement not being spent! This has left many employers with
the impression that there is "no rush" to meet the AODA legislation's mandated
requirements! So, intentions are wonderful! But, "actions taken on those
intentions" are far more important! Unfortunately, it seems that "inertia"
has set in with the current Ontario Government. Typical ...

As users of adaptive technology, we should be assisting the AODA Alliance with
its lobbying efforts, specifically regarding the issue of website
accessibility! If we don't speak up for ourselves, who will?

Jim H

P.S.: I realize that this does not fall within the usual scope of this
listserv; but, felt that some clarification would be useful, given your below
summary of this legislation.

1a. Re: Accessibility of "Amazon Music Desktop App for PC"
From: Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@gmail.com >
Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 08:33:53 PDT

Hello,

I copied and pasted some of the more pertinent points of the Accessibility for
Ontarians With Disabilities Act below. It is my understanding that the
Canadian federal government and the government of British Columbia are
currently drafting similar legislation.

There are also varying levels of this type of legislation being created around
the globe.

The point being that JAWS/screen reader users now have, (Or will soon have
depending upon the jurisdiction which the offending web site falls under), a
powerful tool to promote an accessible internet.

Now, when one writes to an inaccessible web site to describe their navigation
issues, they could include a gentle reminder of these legislations. Hopefully
converting a response of, "Whose going to all that grief for 1 complaint," to
"Well I guess we need to fix this".

Cheers Kevin.




: The Accessibility for Ontarians with Disabilities Act (AODA)


The AODA "applies to every person or organization in the public and private
sectors of the Province of Ontario, including the Legislative Assembly of
Ontario" if the person or organization "provides goods, services or
facilities... employs persons in Ontario... offers accommodation... owns or
occupies a building, structure or premises... or is engaged in a prescribed
business, activity or undertaking or meets such other requirements as may be
prescribed."

An accessibility standard shall,

(a) set out measures, policies, practices or other requirements for the
identification and removal of barriers with respect to goods, services,
facilities, accommodation, employment, buildings, structures, premises or such
other things as may be prescribed, and for the prevention of the erection of
such barriers; and

(b) require the persons or organizations named or described in the standard to
implement those measures, policies, practices or other requirements within the
time periods specified in the standard. 2005, c. 11, s. 6 (6).

Classes

<http://www.ontario.ca/fr/lois/loi/05a11#s6s7> (7) An accessibility standard
may create different classes of persons or organizations or of buildings,
structures or premises and, without limiting the generality of this power, may
create classes with respect to any attribute, quality or characteristic or any
combination of those items, including,

(a) the number of persons employed by persons or organizations or their annual
revenue;

(b) the type of industry in which persons or organizations are engaged or the
sector of the economy of which persons or organizations are a part;

(c) the size of buildings, structures or premises. 2005, c. 11, s. 6 (7).

Same

<http://www.ontario.ca/fr/lois/loi/05a11#s6s8> (8) An accessibility standard
may define a class to consist of one person or organization or to include or
exclude a person or organization having the same or different attributes,
qualities or characteristics. 2005, c. 11, s. 6 (8).

Scope

<http://www.ontario.ca/fr/lois/loi/05a11#s6s9> (9) An accessibility standard
may be general or specific in its application and may be limited as to time
and place. 2005, c. 11, s. 6 (9).

Standards Development Process

Process for development of standards

<http://www.ontario.ca/fr/lois/loi/05a11#s7> 7. The Minister is responsible
for establishing and overseeing a process to develop and implement all
accessibility standards necessary to achieving the purposes of this Act


Below is the current situation with respect to the federal government.

the Government of Canada

The government of Canada has published web standards for accessibility,
usability, interoperability, and mobile devices. These guidelines apply to the
government, and do not apply explicitly to the private sector


--


Re: Accessibility of "Amazon Music Desktop App for PC" - Scripts Anyone?

"Kevin Hourigan " <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Hello Richard,

I was thinking more along the lines of encouragement.

Cheers Kevin.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: May 26, 2016 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of "Amazon Music Desktop App for PC" - Scripts Anyone?

 

Hi Kevin!

 

Thanks for your below.  Indeed, hopefully what Canada has done will spread.  However, in this case, I suspect a JAWS script is the only solution; as described below.  I wonder if interest in developing scripts can be generated?

 

The issue for Amazon Music Desktop App for PC (the App) is that it is 1) not made by a governmental agency, 2) being a recreational App not used by governmental agencies in the normal course of conducting their business and 3) generally within the private sector.  In fact, if it were a web-based App, compelling Amazon to make the App accessible under "Section 508" (the US equivalent of your Canadian law, below) would be possible because item "2" (above) would come into play.  So, scripts are needed.

 

Best,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 8:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of "Amazon Music Desktop App for PC"

 

Hello,

I copied and pasted some of the more pertinent points of the Accessibility for Ontarians With Disabilities Act below. It is my understanding that the Canadian federal government and the government of British Columbia are currently drafting similar legislation.

There are also varying levels of this type of legislation being created around the globe.

The point being that JAWS/screen  reader  users now have, (Or will soon have depending upon the jurisdiction which the offending web site falls under), a powerful tool to promote an accessible internet.

Now, when one writes to an inaccessible web site to describe their navigation issues, they could include a gentle reminder of these legislations. Hopefully converting a response of, “Whose going to all that grief for 1 complaint,”  to “Well I guess we need to fix this”.

Cheers Kevin.

 

: The Accessibility for Ontarians with Disabilities Act (AODA)

The AODA "applies to every person or organization in the public and private sectors of the Province of Ontario, including the Legislative Assembly of Ontario" if the person or organization "provides goods, services or facilities... employs persons in Ontario... offers accommodation... owns or occupies a building, structure or premises... or is engaged in a prescribed business, activity or undertaking or meets such other requirements as may be prescribed."

 

An accessibility standard shall,

(a) set out measures, policies, practices or other requirements for the identification and removal of barriers with respect to goods, services, facilities, accommodation, employment, buildings, structures, premises or such other things as may be prescribed, and for the prevention of the erection of such barriers; and

(b) require the persons or organizations named or described in the standard to implement those measures, policies, practices or other requirements within the time periods specified in the standard.  2005, c. 11, s. 6 (6).

hClasses

(7) An accessibility standard may create different classes of persons or organizations or of buildings, structures or premises and, without limiting the generality of this power, may create classes with respect to any attribute, quality or characteristic or any combination of those items, including,

(a) the number of persons employed by persons or organizations or their annual revenue;

(b) the type of industry in which persons or organizations are engaged or the sector of the economy of which persons or organizations are a part;

(c) the size of buildings, structures or premises.  2005, c. 11, s. 6 (7).

Same

(8) An accessibility standard may define a class to consist of one person or organization or to include or exclude a person or organization having the same or different attributes, qualities or characteristics.  2005, c. 11, s. 6 (8).

Scope

(9) An accessibility standard may be general or specific in its application and may be limited as to time and place.  2005, c. 11, s. 6 (9).

Standards Development Process

Process for development of standards

7. The Minister is responsible for establishing and overseeing a process to develop and implement all accessibility standards necessary to achieving the purposes of this Act

 

Below is the current situation with respect to the federal government.

the Government of Canada

The government of Canada has published web standards for accessibility, usability, interoperability, and mobile devices. These guidelines apply to the government, and do not apply explicitly to the private sector

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of ptusing
Sent: May 24, 2016 5:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of "Amazon Music Desktop App for PC"

 

Thanks,  Kevin,

 

It is my  understanding  that  you Canadians were the first to get the attention of

NetFlix several years ago.

 

The Amazon player is easy if one has  sight.

 

Please share how the Ontario law affects accessibility of that  player in  hopes you good  Canadian friends just might get Amazon to change a few controls to let us in.

 

I once heard from a  F S employee how  the Player could have been made accessible although it is beyond my knowledge to repeat it.

The  concept made  sense.

 

When we are told that we must all go to Apple  music  aps, then don’t be surprised when some people move to

A different screen reading experience—the Apple environment.

 

Bolstering several music platforms strengthens the JAWS user base.

 

That is my opinion.

 

Have a great day.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of "Amazon Music Desktop App for PC"

 

Hello JAWS Users,

Perhaps it would be useful to file  complaints concerning such issues.

I do not think this response is, “Off Topic”, since such actions will improve things for JAWS users.

I am in BC  Canada, and while legislation is in the works, it is not enacted here yet, except in Ontario. But the U. S. legislation below looks pretty good to me.

 

Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act

Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act requires the U.S. federal government to take accessibility into account when procuring information technologies: websites, telephones, copiers, computers, and other technologies, including both hardware and software. The parts of Section 508 most relevant to web accessibility are "1194.21 — Software applications and operating systems," "1194.22 — Web-based intranet and internet information and applications," and "1194.31 — Functional performance criteria."

Section 508 applies to:

·    US federal government entities only, but the effects of Section 508 have permeated the information technology landscape because so many businesses, non-profits, and local and state governments do business with the federal government. To sell to the federal government, private entities have to offer accessible products and services.

Section 508 is enforced by:

·    Consumers (people with disabilities) filing formal complaints

Source; Deque University

Cheers Kevin.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stephanie Switzer
Sent: May 23, 2016 3:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of "Amazon Music Desktop App for PC"

 

If it helps any the last time I downloaded the app on my laptop I had my cousin look at it who is cited, and she said it was a mess and she hated it.
She also could not find what the directions were telling her to do inside the app for downloading music. What I mean is she couldn't find where anything was located.
Sent from my iPhone


On May 23, 2016, at 8:08 AM, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:

No, I do not have an iPhone.  Seemingly, for what must be such a popular and desirable thing, there must be some sort of a way to use this app; like scripts?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stephanie Switzer
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of "Amazon Music Desktop App for PC"

 

I'm glad to know that hasn't changed since last year or the year before.
Have you maybe tried the iPhone app? If you have an iPhone because with the iPhone app you can at least listen to your music.

I'm not sure about Scripps
, But I haven't seen any around. Sent from my iPhone


On May 22, 2016, at 8:10 AM, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:

Hi!

 

I have installed the Amazon Music Desktop App For PC.  Regrettably, it seems to be very much inaccessible.  Does anyone have any ideas about this?  Might there be any JAWS scripts for it?  Are there any JAWS or App settings other than the default settings that would improve accessibility?  Are there any alternative programs that would link into Amazon Music (I am an "Amazon Prime" member) that are more accessible?

 

thanks,

Richard