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Re: Windows Eyes for free

Dave...
 

Um, isn't it actually Window-Eyes? And this has been free now for at least a year, if not longer, methinks.
 
Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 08:10 PM
Subject: Windows Eyes for free

Hi fellow listers,

 

I attend an assistive technology expo here on St. Thomas, where I met an assistive technology specialist from Illinois and he informed me that Windows Eyes is now free if you own a copy of Microsoft Office2010 or later. Here is the link:

Windows Eyes  

Also; he also informed me about becoming an assistive technology specialist through RESNA.ORG.

Just passing the message along.

 

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Virus-free. www.avast.com


Windows Eyes for free

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hi fellow listers,

 

I attend an assistive technology expo here on St. Thomas, where I met an assistive technology specialist from Illinois and he informed me that Windows Eyes is now free if you own a copy of Microsoft Office2010 or later. Here is the link:

Windows Eyes  

Also; he also informed me about becoming an assistive technology specialist through RESNA.ORG.

Just passing the message along.

 

Attitude: The world’s best GPS system.


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Windows D or Windows M

Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...>
 

Correct.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

They are saying Windows D, not Windows B. Windows B takes you to the system Tray. Windows D as in Dog, takes you to the desktop and back again if pressed again.

----- Original Message -----

From: Angel

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:44 AM

Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

windows b is the shortcut key to get one to the system trey, not to the desktop.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM

Subject: Windows D or Windows M

 

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 



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Re: Windows D or Windows M

Laura Richardson
 

Thanks.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 7:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

Press it once it’s on, press it again it’s off.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

I was only told to press “Windows m to go to the desktop.  I didn’t know you could press Windows d to get there which would be more difficult because I only have one Windows key on my keyboard.  I don’t know what a toggle is …… would someone please explain this to me?

 

Thank you,

Laura

  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

Me too, because up until now, I have always used Windows M to get to the desktop.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

I learned something new. I didn't know that Windows D is a toggle.  That is very helpful.

 

Thanks Jeanette.

 

Bob

 

On 5/24/2016 10:54 AM, Jeanette McAllister PhD wrote:

They both will take you to the desktop. The biggest difference that I know of is Windows D is actually a toggle whereas Windows M is not.

 

Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist

 

   

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office:  757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa

 

Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/

                                                                    

Member-  Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

                 Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired         

 

"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

         --Robert Louis Stevenson

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of WESLEY BURDEN
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

hello james:

personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m

 

wesley

 

 

 

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM

Subject: Windows D or Windows M

 

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 

 


Re: what a toggle is

Laura Richardson
 

Thank you.

 

Laura

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of marvin kotler
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 8:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: what a toggle is

 

A toggle key is like a switch.  For example, if you press it once, it might say on, press it again it might then say off.  This is Marv here; hope this helps.

I was only told to press “Windows m to go to the desktop.  I didn’t know you could press Windows d to get there which would be more difficult because I only have one Windows key on my keyboard.  I don’t know what a toggle is …… would someone please explain this to me?

 

Thank you,

Laura

 


Re: Windows D or Windows M

Laura Richardson
 

Thank you.

 

Laura

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lois
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 2:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

Think of it as like the old light switches that you flipped up to turn the light on and flipped it down to turn the light off.  This is a toggle.  If you press a key or key combination to accomplish a task, press it again and it stops whatever it is.

Hope this helps.

Lois Goodine.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

I was only told to press “Windows m to go to the desktop.  I didn’t know you could press Windows d to get there which would be more difficult because I only have one Windows key on my keyboard.  I don’t know what a toggle is …… would someone please explain this to me?

 

Thank you,

Laura

  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

Me too, because up until now, I have always used Windows M to get to the desktop.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

I learned something new. I didn't know that Windows D is a toggle.  That is very helpful.

 

Thanks Jeanette.

 

Bob

 

On 5/24/2016 10:54 AM, Jeanette McAllister PhD wrote:

They both will take you to the desktop. The biggest difference that I know of is Windows D is actually a toggle whereas Windows M is not.

 

Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist

 

   

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office:  757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa

 

Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/

                                                                    

Member-  Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

                 Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired         

 

"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

         --Robert Louis Stevenson

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of WESLEY BURDEN
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

hello james:

personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m

 

wesley

 

 

 

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM

Subject: Windows D or Windows M

 

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 

 


Re: Windows D or Windows M

Laura Richardson
 

Thank you.

Laura

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

Laura, a toggle means that you switch the option on and off when you press the same keystroke. Another way to explain this is to state that as you press the key, it cycles you through all of the available options.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

I was only told to press “Windows m to go to the desktop. I didn’t know you could press Windows d to get there which would be more difficult because I only have one Windows key on my keyboard. I don’t know what a toggle is …… would someone please explain this to me?



Thank you,

Laura





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M



Me too, because up until now, I have always used Windows M to get to the desktop.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M



I learned something new. I didn't know that Windows D is a toggle. That is very helpful.



Thanks Jeanette.



Bob



On 5/24/2016 10:54 AM, Jeanette McAllister PhD wrote:

They both will take you to the desktop. The biggest difference that I know of is Windows D is actually a toggle whereas Windows M is not.



Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist





<http://www.freedomscientific.com/Certification>

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office: 757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com <http://www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com>

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa <http://www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa>



Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/



Member- Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired



"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

--Robert Louis Stevenson









From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of WESLEY BURDEN
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M



hello james:

personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m



wesley







From: James Malone <mailto:malone_j@comcast.net>

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Windows D or Windows M



Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James



http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com <http://www.tunecore.com/>


Re: Changing voice pitch.

"Kevin Hourigan " <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Hello Shaine,

There is a voice change pitch for upper case in the voice profiles.

If that is what you mean;

Go to Jaws, insert J.

Press Alt O.

Arrow down to voice adjustment sub menu.

Press left arrow.

Press enter.

Tab to voice upper case change.

Effect your changes.

Tab to save as.

Tab to okay.

Cheers Kevin.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shane clark
Sent: May 24, 2016 9:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Changing voice pitch.

 

Hi guys,
After a Jaws tandem session, my Vocalizer Expressive voice came back. However, I can't figure out how to raise the pitch. All I'm finding is how to change the rate of the speech. Any suggestions?
Thanks, Shane.

--

Thanks, Shane.


Re: solved web site problem

Tony
 

Thanks.  Didn’t help on a couple of sites, did on others.

 

Its been a while since I was on one of the problem sites or I would post it for others to check.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 2:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: solved web site problem

 

Tony,

 

If you use the JAWS+F5 list, it can often help to indicate the order of the fields, as well as the number of them.  For one example, there are some sites where you enter your phone number and it populates three separate edit fields, whereas on others, the entire number is placed into a single field. JAWS+F5 can quickly help show the contents of various edit fields to show if you're getting things in the right order.

 

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----

From: Tony

Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 10:55 AM

Subject: Re: solved web site problem

 

I didn’t see the original message in this thread but I have also had sites where the label was some distance from the edit field.  Frequently there would be a list of headings followed by a number of unlabeled edit fields.  I usually try to follow the order of the previous announcements but sometimes the number of field announcements is different than the number of edit fields.  In that case I may guess which field wants what and repeat until the form is accepted.  I am unwilling to guess on credit card numbers, but name, address, etc are usually accepted after a few guesses.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: solved web site problem

 

What I'm wondering is: "Why is your screen reader reading improperly, while some on the list are having no problems reading the fields?"

 

Maybe it is a problem with JAWS. Maybe do a JAWS repair. Maybe it is a problem with your Internet browser. Either way, there should be a way of getting this fixed, so that you don't need a sighted person to direct you.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 9:05 AM

Subject: Re: solved web site problem

 

I was able to put in my card number and password in their proper edit fields and click on sign in. I did that by hitting “E” and the sighted person tellint me that I was in the proper field.

Jaws was not announcing  what the edit field was for.

So I did nothing to fix it Because anything I did didn’t fix it.

Called the bank people and all they said is it there. But for some reason jaws was not reading it and did not when the sighted person was here.

Why this all occurred and how it was finally fixed is a mystery!

 

Mark

Then I was able to find the sign out link using insert f7, then shut down  the website

On May 25, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

 

That's not a solution, only a diagnosis. What did you do to fix it?
Bill White 
billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Furness" <
flintman57@...>
To: <
main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 8:46 AM
Subject: solved web site problem


I called over my sighted neighbour. Jaws was not reading the screen properly.





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Re: solved web site problem

Dave...
 

Tony,
 
If you use the JAWS+F5 list, it can often help to indicate the order of the fields, as well as the number of them.  For one example, there are some sites where you enter your phone number and it populates three separate edit fields, whereas on others, the entire number is placed into a single field. JAWS+F5 can quickly help show the contents of various edit fields to show if you're getting things in the right order.
 
Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: solved web site problem

I didn’t see the original message in this thread but I have also had sites where the label was some distance from the edit field.  Frequently there would be a list of headings followed by a number of unlabeled edit fields.  I usually try to follow the order of the previous announcements but sometimes the number of field announcements is different than the number of edit fields.  In that case I may guess which field wants what and repeat until the form is accepted.  I am unwilling to guess on credit card numbers, but name, address, etc are usually accepted after a few guesses.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: solved web site problem

 

What I'm wondering is: "Why is your screen reader reading improperly, while some on the list are having no problems reading the fields?"

 

Maybe it is a problem with JAWS. Maybe do a JAWS repair. Maybe it is a problem with your Internet browser. Either way, there should be a way of getting this fixed, so that you don't need a sighted person to direct you.

Bill White billwhite92701@...

----- Original Message -----

From: Mark Furness

Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 9:05 AM

Subject: Re: solved web site problem

 

I was able to put in my card number and password in their proper edit fields and click on sign in. I did that by hitting “E” and the sighted person tellint me that I was in the proper field.

Jaws was not announcing  what the edit field was for.

So I did nothing to fix it Because anything I did didn’t fix it.

Called the bank people and all they said is it there. But for some reason jaws was not reading it and did not when the sighted person was here.

Why this all occurred and how it was finally fixed is a mystery!

 

Mark

Then I was able to find the sign out link using insert f7, then shut down  the website

On May 25, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

 

That's not a solution, only a diagnosis. What did you do to fix it?
Bill White 
billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Furness" <
flintman57@...>
To: <
main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 8:46 AM
Subject: solved web site problem



I called over my sighted neighbour. Jaws was not reading the screen properly.





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Re: Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

Cynthia Bruce
 

Hi Jason,
I have been using Endnote and find that for the most part it works well.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 25, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Jason White via Groups.io <jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io> wrote:

Are there any citation/bibliography management tools that you would recommend
which are accessible with JAWS?

I'm just looking at this stage. I generally use BibTeX for this task, but when
I'm dealing with Microsoft Word documents, I can't use BibTeX bibliography files.




Citation and bibliography management tools accessible with JAWS

Jason White
 

Are there any citation/bibliography management tools that you would recommend
which are accessible with JAWS?

I'm just looking at this stage. I generally use BibTeX for this task, but when
I'm dealing with Microsoft Word documents, I can't use BibTeX bibliography files.


Re: solved web site problem

Mark Furness
 

I called freedom scientific and the tek support person saw the site was not really accessible. She was also unable to find a link to contact them.

Currently I am in a search to contact the web writers.


Re: solved web site problem

Tony
 

I didn’t see the original message in this thread but I have also had sites where the label was some distance from the edit field.  Frequently there would be a list of headings followed by a number of unlabeled edit fields.  I usually try to follow the order of the previous announcements but sometimes the number of field announcements is different than the number of edit fields.  In that case I may guess which field wants what and repeat until the form is accepted.  I am unwilling to guess on credit card numbers, but name, address, etc are usually accepted after a few guesses.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: solved web site problem

 

What I'm wondering is: "Why is your screen reader reading improperly, while some on the list are having no problems reading the fields?"

 

Maybe it is a problem with JAWS. Maybe do a JAWS repair. Maybe it is a problem with your Internet browser. Either way, there should be a way of getting this fixed, so that you don't need a sighted person to direct you.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 9:05 AM

Subject: Re: solved web site problem

 

I was able to put in my card number and password in their proper edit fields and click on sign in. I did that by hitting “E” and the sighted person tellint me that I was in the proper field.

Jaws was not announcing  what the edit field was for.

So I did nothing to fix it Because anything I did didn’t fix it.

Called the bank people and all they said is it there. But for some reason jaws was not reading it and did not when the sighted person was here.

Why this all occurred and how it was finally fixed is a mystery!

 

Mark

Then I was able to find the sign out link using insert f7, then shut down  the website

On May 25, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

 

That's not a solution, only a diagnosis. What did you do to fix it?
Bill White 
billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Furness" <
flintman57@...>
To: <
main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 8:46 AM
Subject: solved web site problem



I called over my sighted neighbour. Jaws was not reading the screen properly.





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Re: solved web site problem

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

What I'm wondering is: "Why is your screen reader reading improperly, while some on the list are having no problems reading the fields?"
 
Maybe it is a problem with JAWS. Maybe do a JAWS repair. Maybe it is a problem with your Internet browser. Either way, there should be a way of getting this fixed, so that you don't need a sighted person to direct you.
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Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: solved web site problem

I was able to put in my card number and password in their proper edit fields and click on sign in. I did that by hitting “E” and the sighted person tellint me that I was in the proper field.
Jaws was not announcing  what the edit field was for.
So I did nothing to fix it Because anything I did didn’t fix it.
Called the bank people and all they said is it there. But for some reason jaws was not reading it and did not when the sighted person was here.
Why this all occurred and how it was finally fixed is a mystery!

Mark
Then I was able to find the sign out link using insert f7, then shut down  the website
On May 25, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

That's not a solution, only a diagnosis. What did you do to fix it?
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Furness" <flintman57@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 8:46 AM
Subject: solved web site problem


I called over my sighted neighbour. Jaws was not reading the screen properly.





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Re: solved web site problem

Mark Furness
 

I was able to put in my card number and password in their proper edit fields and click on sign in. I did that by hitting “E” and the sighted person tellint me that I was in the proper field.
Jaws was not announcing  what the edit field was for.
So I did nothing to fix it Because anything I did didn’t fix it.
Called the bank people and all they said is it there. But for some reason jaws was not reading it and did not when the sighted person was here.
Why this all occurred and how it was finally fixed is a mystery!

Mark
Then I was able to find the sign out link using insert f7, then shut down  the website

On May 25, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

That's not a solution, only a diagnosis. What did you do to fix it?
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Furness" <flintman57@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 8:46 AM
Subject: solved web site problem


I called over my sighted neighbour. Jaws was not reading the screen properly.





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Re: solved web site problem

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

That's not a solution, only a diagnosis. What did you do to fix it?
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Furness" <flintman57@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 8:46 AM
Subject: solved web site problem


I called over my sighted neighbour. Jaws was not reading the screen properly.





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solved web site problem

Mark Furness
 

I called over my sighted neighbour. Jaws was not reading the screen properly.


Re: Accessibility of "Amazon Music Desktop App for PC"

"Kevin Hourigan " <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Hello,

I copied and pasted some of the more pertinent points of the Accessibility for Ontarians With Disabilities Act below. It is my understanding that the Canadian federal government and the government of British Columbia are currently drafting similar legislation.

There are also varying levels of this type of legislation being created around the globe.

The point being that JAWS/screen  reader  users now have, (Or will soon have depending upon the jurisdiction which the offending web site falls under), a powerful tool to promote an accessible internet.

Now, when one writes to an inaccessible web site to describe their navigation issues, they could include a gentle reminder of these legislations. Hopefully converting a response of, “Whose going to all that grief for 1 complaint,”  to “Well I guess we need to fix this”.

Cheers Kevin.

 

: The Accessibility for Ontarians with Disabilities Act (AODA)

The AODA "applies to every person or organization in the public and private sectors of the Province of Ontario, including the Legislative Assembly of Ontario" if the person or organization "provides goods, services or facilities... employs persons in Ontario... offers accommodation... owns or occupies a building, structure or premises... or is engaged in a prescribed business, activity or undertaking or meets such other requirements as may be prescribed."

 

An accessibility standard shall,

(a) set out measures, policies, practices or other requirements for the identification and removal of barriers with respect to goods, services, facilities, accommodation, employment, buildings, structures, premises or such other things as may be prescribed, and for the prevention of the erection of such barriers; and

(b) require the persons or organizations named or described in the standard to implement those measures, policies, practices or other requirements within the time periods specified in the standard.  2005, c. 11, s. 6 (6).

Classes

(7) An accessibility standard may create different classes of persons or organizations or of buildings, structures or premises and, without limiting the generality of this power, may create classes with respect to any attribute, quality or characteristic or any combination of those items, including,

(a) the number of persons employed by persons or organizations or their annual revenue;

(b) the type of industry in which persons or organizations are engaged or the sector of the economy of which persons or organizations are a part;

(c) the size of buildings, structures or premises.  2005, c. 11, s. 6 (7).

Same

(8) An accessibility standard may define a class to consist of one person or organization or to include or exclude a person or organization having the same or different attributes, qualities or characteristics.  2005, c. 11, s. 6 (8).

Scope

(9) An accessibility standard may be general or specific in its application and may be limited as to time and place.  2005, c. 11, s. 6 (9).

Standards Development Process

Process for development of standards

7. The Minister is responsible for establishing and overseeing a process to develop and implement all accessibility standards necessary to achieving the purposes of this Act

 

Below is the current situation with respect to the federal government.

the Government of Canada

The government of Canada has published web standards for accessibility, usability, interoperability, and mobile devices. These guidelines apply to the government, and do not apply explicitly to the private sector

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of ptusing
Sent: May 24, 2016 5:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of "Amazon Music Desktop App for PC"

 

Thanks,  Kevin,

 

It is my  understanding  that  you Canadians were the first to get the attention of

NetFlix several years ago.

 

The Amazon player is easy if one has  sight.

 

Please share how the Ontario law affects accessibility of that  player in  hopes you good  Canadian friends just might get Amazon to change a few controls to let us in.

 

I once heard from a  F S employee how  the Player could have been made accessible although it is beyond my knowledge to repeat it.

The  concept made  sense.

 

When we are told that we must all go to Apple  music  aps, then don’t be surprised when some people move to

A different screen reading experience—the Apple environment.

 

Bolstering several music platforms strengthens the JAWS user base.

 

That is my opinion.

 

Have a great day.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of "Amazon Music Desktop App for PC"

 

Hello JAWS Users,

Perhaps it would be useful to file  complaints concerning such issues.

I do not think this response is, “Off Topic”, since such actions will improve things for JAWS users.

I am in BC  Canada, and while legislation is in the works, it is not enacted here yet, except in Ontario. But the U. S. legislation below looks pretty good to me.

 

Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act

Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act requires the U.S. federal government to take accessibility into account when procuring information technologies: websites, telephones, copiers, computers, and other technologies, including both hardware and software. The parts of Section 508 most relevant to web accessibility are "1194.21 — Software applications and operating systems," "1194.22 — Web-based intranet and internet information and applications," and "1194.31 — Functional performance criteria."

Section 508 applies to:

·    US federal government entities only, but the effects of Section 508 have permeated the information technology landscape because so many businesses, non-profits, and local and state governments do business with the federal government. To sell to the federal government, private entities have to offer accessible products and services.

Section 508 is enforced by:

·    Consumers (people with disabilities) filing formal complaints

Source; Deque University

Cheers Kevin.

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stephanie Switzer
Sent: May 23, 2016 3:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of "Amazon Music Desktop App for PC"

 

If it helps any the last time I downloaded the app on my laptop I had my cousin look at it who is cited, and she said it was a mess and she hated it.
She also could not find what the directions were telling her to do inside the app for downloading music. What I mean is she couldn't find where anything was located.
Sent from my iPhone


On May 23, 2016, at 8:08 AM, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:

No, I do not have an iPhone.  Seemingly, for what must be such a popular and desirable thing, there must be some sort of a way to use this app; like scripts?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stephanie Switzer
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of "Amazon Music Desktop App for PC"

 

I'm glad to know that hasn't changed since last year or the year before.
Have you maybe tried the iPhone app? If you have an iPhone because with the iPhone app you can at least listen to your music.

I'm not sure about Scripps
, But I haven't seen any around. Sent from my iPhone


On May 22, 2016, at 8:10 AM, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:

Hi!

 

I have installed the Amazon Music Desktop App For PC.  Regrettably, it seems to be very much inaccessible.  Does anyone have any ideas about this?  Might there be any JAWS scripts for it?  Are there any JAWS or App settings other than the default settings that would improve accessibility?  Are there any alternative programs that would link into Amazon Music (I am an "Amazon Prime" member) that are more accessible?

 

thanks,

Richard


Re: Windows D or Windows M

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Press it once it’s on, press it again it’s off.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

I was only told to press “Windows m to go to the desktop.  I didn’t know you could press Windows d to get there which would be more difficult because I only have one Windows key on my keyboard.  I don’t know what a toggle is …… would someone please explain this to me?

 

Thank you,

Laura

  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

Me too, because up until now, I have always used Windows M to get to the desktop.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

I learned something new. I didn't know that Windows D is a toggle.  That is very helpful.

 

Thanks Jeanette.

 

Bob

 

On 5/24/2016 10:54 AM, Jeanette McAllister PhD wrote:

They both will take you to the desktop. The biggest difference that I know of is Windows D is actually a toggle whereas Windows M is not.

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of WESLEY BURDEN
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

hello james:

personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m

 

wesley

 

 

 

From: James Malone

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM

Subject: Windows D or Windows M

 

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

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James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com