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Re: Windows D or Windows M

Howard Traxler <howard@...>
 


I've been told that they are two separate commands.  One is a one-time executible command and the other is a toggle.  Check it out.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

Me too, because up until now, I have always used Windows M to get to the desktop.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

I learned something new. I didn't know that Windows D is a toggle.  That is very helpful.

 

Thanks Jeanette.

 

Bob

 

On 5/24/2016 10:54 AM, Jeanette McAllister PhD wrote:

They both will take you to the desktop. The biggest difference that I know of is Windows D is actually a toggle whereas Windows M is not.

 

Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist

 

   

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office:  757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa

 

Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/

                                                                    

Member-  Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

                 Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired         

 

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         --Robert Louis Stevenson

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of WESLEY BURDEN
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

hello james:

personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m

 

wesley

 

 

 

From: James Malone

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM

Subject: Windows D or Windows M

 

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 

 


Re: Windows D or Windows M

Jason White
 

Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
I think you're close, but I think it's more a matter of what you've grown
used to, rather than what you've been taught.
This, I suspect, depends on the individual. I'm a latecomer to Microsoft
Windows, having avoided Windows 95/98 in favour of Linux, and not, until
recently, having had any reason to try any version of Windows. Then I needed
it in my work environment, so I learned it "on the job", mostly by consultoing
lists of keystrokes and spending some time with it on several weekends. I've
recently repeated the same process after moving from Windows 7 to Windows 10
at work.

I read about Windows-D, so that's what I've been using. It's
Ctrl-Option-Shift-D under Mac OS X, so at least they use the same letter.
Under Linux/GNOME there is no such thing as the desktop. Nor does it exist
under Chrome OS. Even under Mac and Windows I don't use the desktop much; I
tend to rely on the shortcut keys to run programs from the task bar, and the
search box on the start menu to find what I need quickly. Under OS X, the dock
(somewhat equivalent to the Windows task bar) is very useful, as is Spotlight
Search. Under Linux, I just perform a search for the program I want, which is
as quick and convenient to do as it is in Windows.


Re: Windows D or Windows M

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

I think you're close, but I think it's more a matter of what you've grown used to, rather than what you've been taught. I say this, because I was never really taught keystrokes for Windows. I just picked them up as I went along. But I got accustomed to using Windows plus M, so that's what I consistently use, even though, like yourself, I know there is an alternate method.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M


You know, I have always used Windows+M as well. I never use Windows+D, even though I know that it is an option. Maybe it has to do with what you are taught.
Take care all.


-----Original Message-----
From: James Malone
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 3:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

Thank you Nicole,
This was one of the first things I was taught when I first started learning
computers back in the day. Although both work, I've always used windows M.
Thanks again.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nicole
Massey
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

Windows M minimizes all opened programs, while Windows D minimizes
everything, including programs in the system tray. This will also minimize
"always on top" programs. The person who told your client to never use
Windows M and to always use Windows D gave misinformation, as there are
specific times when either one is useful. But in most cases Windows M does
what's needed.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James
Malone
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows D or Windows M

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands
along with windows keyboard commands, and she told me that someone told her
that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the
desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get
to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the windows D or M,
and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for
understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if
the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James



http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com
<http://www.tunecore.com/>

















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Re: Windows D or Windows M

David Moore
 

You know, I have always used Windows+M as well. I never use Windows+D, even though I know that it is an option. Maybe it has to do with what you are taught.
Take care all.

-----Original Message-----
From: James Malone
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 3:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

Thank you Nicole,
This was one of the first things I was taught when I first started learning
computers back in the day. Although both work, I've always used windows M.
Thanks again.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nicole
Massey
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

Windows M minimizes all opened programs, while Windows D minimizes
everything, including programs in the system tray. This will also minimize
"always on top" programs. The person who told your client to never use
Windows M and to always use Windows D gave misinformation, as there are
specific times when either one is useful. But in most cases Windows M does
what's needed.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James
Malone
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows D or Windows M

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands
along with windows keyboard commands, and she told me that someone told her
that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the
desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get
to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the windows D or M,
and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for
understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if
the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James



http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com
<http://www.tunecore.com/>


Re: Windows D or Windows M

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

They are saying Windows D, not Windows B. Windows B takes you to the system Tray. Windows D as in Dog, takes you to the desktop and back again if pressed again.
----- Original Message -----
From: Angel
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

windows b is the shortcut key to get one to the system trey, not to the desktop.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM
Subject: Windows D or Windows M

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 



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Re: Windows D or Windows M

James Malone
 

Thank you Nicole,
This was one of the first things I was taught when I first started learning
computers back in the day. Although both work, I've always used windows M.
Thanks again.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nicole
Massey
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

Windows M minimizes all opened programs, while Windows D minimizes
everything, including programs in the system tray. This will also minimize
"always on top" programs. The person who told your client to never use
Windows M and to always use Windows D gave misinformation, as there are
specific times when either one is useful. But in most cases Windows M does
what's needed.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James
Malone
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows D or Windows M

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands
along with windows keyboard commands, and she told me that someone told her
that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the
desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get
to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the windows D or M,
and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for
understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if
the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James



http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com
<http://www.tunecore.com/>


Re: Windows D or Windows M

Lois
 

Think of it as like the old light switches that you flipped up to turn the light on and flipped it down to turn the light off.  This is a toggle.  If you press a key or key combination to accomplish a task, press it again and it stops whatever it is.

Hope this helps.

Lois Goodine.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

I was only told to press “Windows m to go to the desktop.  I didn’t know you could press Windows d to get there which would be more difficult because I only have one Windows key on my keyboard.  I don’t know what a toggle is …… would someone please explain this to me?

 

Thank you,

Laura

  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

Me too, because up until now, I have always used Windows M to get to the desktop.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

I learned something new. I didn't know that Windows D is a toggle.  That is very helpful.

 

Thanks Jeanette.

 

Bob

 

On 5/24/2016 10:54 AM, Jeanette McAllister PhD wrote:

They both will take you to the desktop. The biggest difference that I know of is Windows D is actually a toggle whereas Windows M is not.

 

Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist

 

   

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office:  757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa

 

Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/

                                                                    

Member-  Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

                 Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired         

 

"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

         --Robert Louis Stevenson

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of WESLEY BURDEN
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

hello james:

personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m

 

wesley

 

 

 

From: James Malone

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM

Subject: Windows D or Windows M

 

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 

 


Re: Windows D or Windows M

James Malone
 

Thanks for all the responses. Although I only use the Windows M, I always leave that choice up to my clients. This is especially with older versions of Jaws.

Because I’m right handed, and sometimes I forget there is a windows key on the right. I started with a older keyboard that had the control escape key. Dateing myself (lol).

James

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

Thanks for the good information on the differences.

I've experienced no issues using Windows M on my w10 machine.

 

Maria Campbell
lucky1@...
 
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
--Attributer to Jimmi Hendrix

On 5/24/2016 1:31 PM, Nicole Massey wrote:

Windows M minimizes all opened programs, while Windows D minimizes
everything, including programs in the system tray. This will also minimize
"always on top" programs. The person who told your client to never use
Windows M and to always use Windows D gave misinformation, as there are
specific times when either one is useful. But in most cases Windows M does
what's needed.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James
Malone
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows D or Windows M
 
Hello all,
 
I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands
along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her
that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the
desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get
to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M,
and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.
 
So in your opinion, what would you suggest?
 
I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for
understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if
the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?
 
James
 
 
 
http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone
 
James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com
<http://www.tunecore.com/> 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 


Re: Jeanette web site problem

Castonguay, Guy (SSC/SPC) <guy.castonguay@...>
 

Mark,
Use the letter E instead of F E is for edit fields.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Furness
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jeanette web site problem

Not in my case the fields are not mentioned by doing insert f5, or just hitting the letter “F” for field

On May 24, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Jeanette McAllister PhD <Jeanette@mcallisterenterprisesusa.com> wrote:

Hi Mark,
I just went to the website and using the Insert + F5 keystroke I am able to access the form fields you mentioned. There is also a “sign on” button to login to your account. Since I do not have an account with CIBC I am unable to login and confirm that there is a sign off or sign out button.


Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support
Professional Placement Specialist




<http://www.freedomscientific.com/Certification>

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office: 757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com <http://www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com/>

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa



Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/



Member- Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired



"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

--Robert Louis Stevenson







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Furness
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: web site problem

www.cibc.com <http://www.cibc.com/> I use to go to this my banking site, put in my card number and password.
Now when I go there the edit boxes for those two fields are no where to be seen.
Neither is the link for sign out when I do a jaws f7 to llist all the links.
I did have my computer automatically fill in the card number and password, but have deletee them from my computer.
If someone would be so kind to go to the web site and find out if the card number and password fields are there it will be greatly appreciated.
Then I will have to figure what is so wrong with my system.

Mark
Mark Furness
flintman57@gmai l.com <http://l.com/>


Re: Windows D or Windows M

Angel
 


I misunderstood the shortcut referred to.  For which I apologize.  Please accept my apology.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

They both will take you to the desktop. The biggest difference that I know of is Windows D is actually a toggle whereas Windows M is not.

 

Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist

 

   

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office:  757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa

 

Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/

                                                                    

Member-  Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

                 Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired         

 

"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

         --Robert Louis Stevenson

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of WESLEY BURDEN
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

hello james:

personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m

 

wesley

 

 

 

From: James Malone

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM

Subject: Windows D or Windows M

 

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 


Re: Windows D or Windows M

Angel
 

windows b is the shortcut key to get one to the system trey, not to the desktop.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM
Subject: Windows D or Windows M

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 


Re: Windows D or Windows M

Londa Peterson
 

 6 in one, half dozen in the other.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows D or Windows M

 

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com

 


Re: Windows D or Windows M

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Laura, a toggle means that you switch the option on and off when you press the same keystroke. Another way to explain this is to state that as you press the key, it cycles you through all of the available options.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

I was only told to press “Windows m to go to the desktop. I didn’t know you could press Windows d to get there which would be more difficult because I only have one Windows key on my keyboard. I don’t know what a toggle is …… would someone please explain this to me?



Thank you,

Laura





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M



Me too, because up until now, I have always used Windows M to get to the desktop.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M



I learned something new. I didn't know that Windows D is a toggle. That is very helpful.



Thanks Jeanette.



Bob



On 5/24/2016 10:54 AM, Jeanette McAllister PhD wrote:

They both will take you to the desktop. The biggest difference that I know of is Windows D is actually a toggle whereas Windows M is not.



Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist





<http://www.freedomscientific.com/Certification>

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office: 757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com <http://www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com>

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa <http://www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa>



Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/



Member- Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired



"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

--Robert Louis Stevenson









From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of WESLEY BURDEN
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M



hello james:

personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m



wesley







From: James Malone <mailto:malone_j@comcast.net>

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Windows D or Windows M



Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James



http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com <http://www.tunecore.com/>


Re: Jeanette web site problem

Jeanette McAllister PhD
 

I’m not sure what the problem could be then. I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, and IE11.

 

Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist

 

   

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office:  757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa

 

Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Furness
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jeanette web site problem

 

Not in my case the fields are not mentioned by doing insert f5, or just hitting the letter “F” for field

On May 24, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Jeanette McAllister PhD <Jeanette@...> wrote:

 

Hi Mark,

I just went to the website and using the Insert + F5 keystroke I am able to access the form fields you mentioned. There is also a “sign on” button to login to your account. Since I do not have an account with CIBC I am unable to login and confirm that there is a sign off or sign out button.

 

Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist

 

   

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office:  757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa

 

Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/

                                                                    

Member-  Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

                 Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired         

 

"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

         --Robert Louis Stevenson

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Furness
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: web site problem

 

www.cibc.com            I use to go to this my banking site, put in my card number and password.

Now when I go there the edit boxes for those two fields are no where to be seen.

Neither is the link for sign out when I do a jaws f7 to llist all the links.

I did have my computer automatically fill in the card number and password, but have deletee them from my computer.

If someone would be so kind to go to the web site and find out if the card number and password fields are there it will be greatly appreciated.

Then I will have to figure what is so wrong with my system.

 

Mark

                                                Mark Furness

flintman57@gmai                                                                l.com

 




 

 


Re: Jeanette web site problem

Mark Furness
 

Not in my case the fields are not mentioned by doing insert f5, or just hitting the letter “F” for field

On May 24, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Jeanette McAllister PhD <Jeanette@...> wrote:

Hi Mark,
I just went to the website and using the Insert + F5 keystroke I am able to access the form fields you mentioned. There is also a “sign on” button to login to your account. Since I do not have an account with CIBC I am unable to login and confirm that there is a sign off or sign out button.
 

Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support
Professional Placement Specialist
 

   

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office:  757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa

 

Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/

                                                                    

Member-  Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

                 Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired         

 

"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

         --Robert Louis Stevenson

 

 

 
 
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Furness
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: web site problem
 
www.cibc.com            I use to go to this my banking site, put in my card number and password.
Now when I go there the edit boxes for those two fields are no where to be seen.
Neither is the link for sign out when I do a jaws f7 to llist all the links.
I did have my computer automatically fill in the card number and password, but have deletee them from my computer.
If someone would be so kind to go to the web site and find out if the card number and password fields are there it will be greatly appreciated.
Then I will have to figure what is so wrong with my system.
 
Mark
                                                Mark Furness
flintman57@gmai                                                                l.com
 


 



Re: Windows D or Windows M

Maria Campbell
 

Thanks for the good information on the differences.

I've experienced no issues using Windows M on my w10 machine.


Maria Campbell
lucky1@...

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
--Attributer to Jimmi Hendrix
On 5/24/2016 1:31 PM, Nicole Massey wrote:

Windows M minimizes all opened programs, while Windows D minimizes
everything, including programs in the system tray. This will also minimize
"always on top" programs. The person who told your client to never use
Windows M and to always use Windows D gave misinformation, as there are
specific times when either one is useful. But in most cases Windows M does
what's needed.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James
Malone
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows D or Windows M

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands
along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her
that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the
desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get
to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M,
and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for
understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if
the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com
<http://www.tunecore.com/> 

 








Re: web site problem

Castonguay, Guy (SSC/SPC) <guy.castonguay@...>
 

Went to the site and had no problems finding the number & password fields. I use win 7, JAWS 16 with IE 11.
Regards
Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: web site problem

I have the same problem. Even when I use the bookmark that normally takes me to the sign on screen. I activated the "sign on" link several times,; even in a new window but still don't get a place to enter my info.

Also tried both firefox and ie11





Guess we both need to contact them.




Bob

On 5/24/2016 10:40 AM, Mark Furness wrote:


www.cibc.com I use to go to this my banking site, put in my card number and password.
Now when I go there the edit boxes for those two fields are no where to be seen.
Neither is the link for sign out when I do a jaws f7 to llist all the links.
I did have my computer automatically fill in the card number and password, but have deletee them from my computer.
If someone would be so kind to go to the web site and find out if the card number and password fields are there it will be greatly appreciated.
Then I will have to figure what is so wrong with my system.

Mark


Mark Furness
flintman57@gmai l.com


Re: Windows D or Windows M

Nicole Massey <nyyki@...>
 

Windows M minimizes all opened programs, while Windows D minimizes
everything, including programs in the system tray. This will also minimize
"always on top" programs. The person who told your client to never use
Windows M and to always use Windows D gave misinformation, as there are
specific times when either one is useful. But in most cases Windows M does
what's needed.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James
Malone
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Windows D or Windows M

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands
along with windows keyboard commands, and she told me that someone told her
that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the
desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get
to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the windows D or M,
and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for
understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if
the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James



http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com
<http://www.tunecore.com/>


Re: web site problem

Robert Logue
 

I have the same problem.  Even when I use the bookmark that normally takes me to the sign on screen.  I activated the "sign on" link several times,; even in a new window but still don't get a place to enter my info.

Also tried both firefox and ie11


Guess we both need to contact them.


Bob

On 5/24/2016 10:40 AM, Mark Furness wrote:

www.cibc.com I use to go to this my banking site, put in my card number and password.
Now when I go there the edit boxes for those two fields are no where to be seen.
Neither is the link for sign out when I do a jaws f7 to llist all the links.
I did have my computer automatically fill in the card number and password, but have deletee them from my computer.
If someone would be so kind to go to the web site and find out if the card number and password fields are there it will be greatly appreciated.
Then I will have to figure what is so wrong with my system.

Mark
Mark Furness
flintman57@gmai l.com






Re: Windows D or Windows M

Laura Richardson
 

I was only told to press “Windows m to go to the desktop.  I didn’t know you could press Windows d to get there which would be more difficult because I only have one Windows key on my keyboard.  I don’t know what a toggle is …… would someone please explain this to me?

 

Thank you,

Laura

  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

Me too, because up until now, I have always used Windows M to get to the desktop.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

I learned something new. I didn't know that Windows D is a toggle.  That is very helpful.

 

Thanks Jeanette.

 

Bob

 

On 5/24/2016 10:54 AM, Jeanette McAllister PhD wrote:

They both will take you to the desktop. The biggest difference that I know of is Windows D is actually a toggle whereas Windows M is not.

 

Jeanette McAllister PhD

Assistive Technology Tutor/Support

Professional Placement Specialist

 

   

PO Box 1277

Franklin, VA 23851

Office:  757-304-5323

Mobile: 757-346-0708

www.mcallisterenterprisesusa.com

www.linkedin.com/in/mcallisterenterprisesusa

 

Member-National Employment Committee – NFB

http://employment.nfb.org/

                                                                    

Member-  Virginia State Rehabilitation Council

                 Dept for the Blind and Vision Impaired         

 

"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant."

         --Robert Louis Stevenson

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of WESLEY BURDEN
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows D or Windows M

 

hello james:

personally it doesn’t matter to me I have used both but I seem to use the windows d a lot more then the windows m

 

wesley

 

 

 

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:49 PM

Subject: Windows D or Windows M

 

Hello all,

I was working with a client yesterday going over Jaws Keyboard commands along with windows keyboard  commands, and she told me that someone told her that it was wrong using the windows M to minimize all programs to get to the desktop, and that she should use the shortcut keys windows D as a way to get to the desktop. I also explained that she could use the   windows D or M, and that the desktop would be selected with all APPS minimize.

So in your opinion, what would you suggest?

I realize that Windows plus D for desktop is the best answer for understanding a user command to get to the desktop, but does it matter if the user is knowledgeable when it comes to computers?

James

 

http://www.cdbaby.com/jamesmalone

James Malone, (916)212-5397http://www.tunecore.com