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Re: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Awesome, Dave. I tried it! All the commands you gave worked, plus, as you said, I did not lose old ones.

Do you have a list of Laptop commands?

I fooled around and see that Cap Lock P gives JAWS cursor.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 3:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop

Hi,
Also, Caps Lock+ A will read all of the text. Keep in mind that the J, K, and L with the Caps Lock held down, will read previous current, and next word. The letters: U, I, and O, with the Caps Lock held down, will read previous, current, and next line. The characters, M, Comma, and Period, will Read previous, current, and next character. This is so awesome, because you do not have to take your fingers from where you are typing. I use the laptop layout on a Desktop computer. The desktop commands are not taken from you, the Laptop commands are added to the desktop commands you already have. It is great. Take care, Good question.


From: Kimber Gardner <mailto:kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 3:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop

That would be caps lock plus down arrow.


Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On May 14, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com <mailto:tombehler@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hello everyone.



I’m having an embarrassing brain lapse here.



How do you read the entire text of an MS Word document on a typical laptop computer?



On the standard computer keyboard, I use the Jaws or insert key on the number pad plus the number 2.



I’m looking for an equivalent key command on the Dell Lattitude Laptop I’m currently using.



Sorry for asking such an elementary question.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


Re: Texting App or program

Mario
 

Gene, you can send a text to a smart phone from your PC using an email client like Thunderbird, Windows Live Mail, Outlook, etc. you type the 10 digit number@carrier's texting gateway.

here is a site that allows you to type in an individual phone number and get the Free SMS gateway address. the proper sms gateway beginning with the ten digit phone number will be displayed.

http://www.freesmsgateway.info/

On 5/14/2016 4:01 PM, Gene Stevens wrote:
I’m useing Windows 10 on a non touch computer and wish to be able to
send SMS messages to and from a phone. I’ve tryed Text Free and it
doesn’t seem to be at all accessable. Does anyone have any ideas on what
to use besides Yahoo messenger, that doesn’t work, or Skype which I have
to pay for?

Gene


Re: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop

David Moore
 

Yes it will! Take care.
 
 

From: Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop
 

Would insert plus down arrow work as well?

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 3:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop

 

That would be caps lock plus down arrow.



Sent from Kimber's iPhone


On May 14, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:

Hello everyone.

 

I’m having an embarrassing brain lapse here.

 

How do you read the entire text of an MS Word document on a typical laptop computer?

 

On the standard computer keyboard, I use the Jaws or insert key on the number pad plus the number 2.

 

I’m looking for an equivalent key command on the Dell Lattitude Laptop I’m currently using.

 

Sorry for asking such an elementary question.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 


Re: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop

David Moore
 

Your welcome, Tom. Glad to help!
 
 

From: Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop
 

Thanks, David for this additional command possibility, and thanks also for not viewing this as a stupid question.  (smile)

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 3:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop

 

Hi,

Also, Caps Lock+ A will read all of the text. Keep in mind that the J, K, and L with the Caps Lock held down, will read previous current, and next word. The letters: U, I, and O, with the Caps Lock held down, will read previous, current, and next line. The characters, M, Comma, and Period, will Read previous, current, and next character. This is so awesome, because you do not have to take your fingers from where you are typing. I use the laptop layout on a Desktop computer. The desktop commands are not taken from you, the Laptop commands are added to the desktop commands you already have. It is great. Take care, Good question.

 

 

Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 3:22 PM

Subject: Re: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop

 

That would be caps lock plus down arrow.



Sent from Kimber's iPhone


On May 14, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:

Hello everyone.

 

I’m having an embarrassing brain lapse here.

 

How do you read the entire text of an MS Word document on a typical laptop computer?

 

On the standard computer keyboard, I use the Jaws or insert key on the number pad plus the number 2.

 

I’m looking for an equivalent key command on the Dell Lattitude Laptop I’m currently using.

 

Sorry for asking such an elementary question.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 


Re: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop

Tom Behler
 

Thanks, David for this additional command possibility, and thanks also for not viewing this as a stupid question.  (smile)

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 3:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop

 

Hi,

Also, Caps Lock+ A will read all of the text. Keep in mind that the J, K, and L with the Caps Lock held down, will read previous current, and next word. The letters: U, I, and O, with the Caps Lock held down, will read previous, current, and next line. The characters, M, Comma, and Period, will Read previous, current, and next character. This is so awesome, because you do not have to take your fingers from where you are typing. I use the laptop layout on a Desktop computer. The desktop commands are not taken from you, the Laptop commands are added to the desktop commands you already have. It is great. Take care, Good question.

 

 

Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 3:22 PM

Subject: Re: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop

 

That would be caps lock plus down arrow.



Sent from Kimber's iPhone


On May 14, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:

Hello everyone.

 

I’m having an embarrassing brain lapse here.

 

How do you read the entire text of an MS Word document on a typical laptop computer?

 

On the standard computer keyboard, I use the Jaws or insert key on the number pad plus the number 2.

 

I’m looking for an equivalent key command on the Dell Lattitude Laptop I’m currently using.

 

Sorry for asking such an elementary question.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 


Re: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop

Tom Behler
 

Would insert plus down arrow work as well?

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 3:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop

 

That would be caps lock plus down arrow.



Sent from Kimber's iPhone


On May 14, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:

Hello everyone.

 

I’m having an embarrassing brain lapse here.

 

How do you read the entire text of an MS Word document on a typical laptop computer?

 

On the standard computer keyboard, I use the Jaws or insert key on the number pad plus the number 2.

 

I’m looking for an equivalent key command on the Dell Lattitude Laptop I’m currently using.

 

Sorry for asking such an elementary question.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 


Re: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop

Tom Behler
 

That should do it. …

 

I remember using that command now when using the laptop without the external keyboard.

 

Thanks very much!

 

Tom Behler

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 3:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop

 

Hi,

Are you wanting Jaws to read continuously? Insert and down arrow will read from cursor to end of document continuously, until hold down control to stop reading.

 

Angel

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 12:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop

 

Hello everyone.

 

I’m having an embarrassing brain lapse here.

 

How do you read the entire text of an MS Word document on a typical laptop computer?

 

On the standard computer keyboard, I use the Jaws or insert key on the number pad plus the number 2.

 

I’m looking for an equivalent key command on the Dell Lattitude Laptop I’m currently using.

 

Sorry for asking such an elementary question.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 


Texting App or program

Gene Stevens
 

I’m useing Windows 10 on a non touch computer and wish to be able to send SMS messages to and from a phone. I’ve tryed Text Free and it doesn’t seem to be at all accessable. Does anyone have any ideas on what to use besides Yahoo messenger, that doesn’t work, or Skype which I have to pay for?
 
Gene


Re: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop

Onwardbob
 

Hi David, I dropped in on this thread and am wondering if all I have to do is go in to the Jaw's start up wizard and change from desktop to laptop?

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 12:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop

Hi,
Also, Caps Lock+ A will read all of the text. Keep in mind that the J, K, and L with the Caps Lock held down, will read previous current, and next word. The letters: U, I, and O, with the Caps Lock held down, will read previous, current, and next line. The characters, M, Comma, and Period, will Read previous, current, and next character. This is so awesome, because you do not have to take your fingers from where you are typing. I use the laptop layout on a Desktop computer. The desktop commands are not taken from you, the Laptop commands are added to the desktop commands you already have. It is great. Take care, Good question.


From: Kimber Gardner <mailto:kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 3:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop

That would be caps lock plus down arrow.


Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On May 14, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:



Hello everyone.



I’m having an embarrassing brain lapse here.



How do you read the entire text of an MS Word document on a typical laptop computer?



On the standard computer keyboard, I use the Jaws or insert key on the number pad plus the number 2.



I’m looking for an equivalent key command on the Dell Lattitude Laptop I’m currently using.



Sorry for asking such an elementary question.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


Re: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop

David Moore
 

Hi,
Also, Caps Lock+ A will read all of the text. Keep in mind that the J, K, and L with the Caps Lock held down, will read previous current, and next word. The letters: U, I, and O, with the Caps Lock held down, will read previous, current, and next line. The characters, M, Comma, and Period, will Read previous, current, and next character. This is so awesome, because you do not have to take your fingers from where you are typing. I use the laptop layout on a Desktop computer. The desktop commands are not taken from you, the Laptop commands are added to the desktop commands you already have. It is great. Take care, Good question.
 
 

Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop
 
That would be caps lock plus down arrow.


Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On May 14, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:

Hello everyone.

 

I’m having an embarrassing brain lapse here.

 

How do you read the entire text of an MS Word document on a typical laptop computer?

 

On the standard computer keyboard, I use the Jaws or insert key on the number pad plus the number 2.

 

I’m looking for an equivalent key command on the Dell Lattitude Laptop I’m currently using.

 

Sorry for asking such an elementary question.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 


Re: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop

Kimber Gardner
 

That would be caps lock plus down arrow.


Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On May 14, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:

Hello everyone.

 

I’m having an embarrassing brain lapse here.

 

How do you read the entire text of an MS Word document on a typical laptop computer?

 

On the standard computer keyboard, I use the Jaws or insert key on the number pad plus the number 2.

 

I’m looking for an equivalent key command on the Dell Lattitude Laptop I’m currently using.

 

Sorry for asking such an elementary question.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 


Re: Firefox and Alerts

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

The alerts tell you how to accept or reject something. You have to press the key in question to do the function needed.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox and Alerts


Bill:

Once the alerts come up, how can you get beyond them to navigate the
particular web page you are on?

Sometimes, I find that I have to completely back out of Firefox, and then
get back in to it to eliminate the alert, which is a pain, to say the least.

And, what if any is the value of the alerts?

Just trying to learn here! (smile)

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 2:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox and Alerts

I haven't found any way to stop alerts from coming up in Firefox.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox and Alerts


Bill:

Is there any way to stop the alerts from coming up in Firefox?

Perhaps there may be some value to them, but I find that they get in the
way
of navigation.

I've found this problem to be especially annoying, most recently in
Firefox
46.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 12:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox and Alerts

Alerts come up once in Firefox without having to press any key. The
drawback
is that once the alerts come up, and then disappear, they are gone. There
is
no key which can be pressed to get back the alert message.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 9:17 AM
Subject: Firefox and Alerts


In IE it was easy--Press Alt-N. How are the alerts gotten to in FF?






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Re: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop

Angel <angel.chesimet@...>
 

Hi,

Are you wanting Jaws to read continuously? Insert and down arrow will read from cursor to end of document continuously, until hold down control to stop reading.

 

Angel

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 12:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop

 

Hello everyone.

 

I’m having an embarrassing brain lapse here.

 

How do you read the entire text of an MS Word document on a typical laptop computer?

 

On the standard computer keyboard, I use the Jaws or insert key on the number pad plus the number 2.

 

I’m looking for an equivalent key command on the Dell Lattitude Laptop I’m currently using.

 

Sorry for asking such an elementary question.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 


Need Command For Reading The Text Of A Document In MS Word On A Laptop

Tom Behler
 

Hello everyone.

 

I’m having an embarrassing brain lapse here.

 

How do you read the entire text of an MS Word document on a typical laptop computer?

 

On the standard computer keyboard, I use the Jaws or insert key on the number pad plus the number 2.

 

I’m looking for an equivalent key command on the Dell Lattitude Laptop I’m currently using.

 

Sorry for asking such an elementary question.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 


Re: PDF email attachments

 

Carolyn Arnold asked, "Have you tried copying all of what JAWS says is blank, pasting into a word document and see if you can read it?"

You're just going to have to trust me on this or experiment yourself, but this doesn't work.  If JAWS is saying "blank" it's because, as the file stands, there is no text to recognize and thus, no text to copy.  The PDF is a series of images of pages which is in no way readable.  If you copy it you copy a series of images and paste a series of images that remains unreadable.

This is why optical character recognition is absolutely necessary.

Brian
-- 
I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
     ~  Poul Anderson


Re: Firefox and Alerts

Tom Behler
 

Bill:

Once the alerts come up, how can you get beyond them to navigate the
particular web page you are on?

Sometimes, I find that I have to completely back out of Firefox, and then
get back in to it to eliminate the alert, which is a pain, to say the least.

And, what if any is the value of the alerts?

Just trying to learn here! (smile)

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 2:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox and Alerts

I haven't found any way to stop alerts from coming up in Firefox.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox and Alerts


Bill:

Is there any way to stop the alerts from coming up in Firefox?

Perhaps there may be some value to them, but I find that they get in the
way
of navigation.

I've found this problem to be especially annoying, most recently in
Firefox
46.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 12:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox and Alerts

Alerts come up once in Firefox without having to press any key. The
drawback
is that once the alerts come up, and then disappear, they are gone. There
is
no key which can be pressed to get back the alert message.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 9:17 AM
Subject: Firefox and Alerts


In IE it was easy--Press Alt-N. How are the alerts gotten to in FF?






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Re: Firefox and Alerts

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

I haven't found any way to stop alerts from coming up in Firefox.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox and Alerts


Bill:

Is there any way to stop the alerts from coming up in Firefox?

Perhaps there may be some value to them, but I find that they get in the way
of navigation.

I've found this problem to be especially annoying, most recently in Firefox
46.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 12:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox and Alerts

Alerts come up once in Firefox without having to press any key. The drawback
is that once the alerts come up, and then disappear, they are gone. There is
no key which can be pressed to get back the alert message.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 9:17 AM
Subject: Firefox and Alerts


In IE it was easy--Press Alt-N. How are the alerts gotten to in FF?






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Re: Firefox and Alerts

Tom Behler
 

Bill:

Is there any way to stop the alerts from coming up in Firefox?

Perhaps there may be some value to them, but I find that they get in the way
of navigation.

I've found this problem to be especially annoying, most recently in Firefox
46.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 12:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox and Alerts

Alerts come up once in Firefox without having to press any key. The drawback
is that once the alerts come up, and then disappear, they are gone. There is
no key which can be pressed to get back the alert message.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 9:17 AM
Subject: Firefox and Alerts


In IE it was easy--Press Alt-N. How are the alerts gotten to in FF?






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Re: PDF email attachments

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

OK, so it is Insert-Space first then. Disregard my previous query.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 4:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: PDF email attachments

Laura, you press insert Space, lift up those keys, then press O followed by D.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 10:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: PDF email attachments

Brian,



Sorry if I seem a bit dippy (LOL) but I’m still confused. Also, I use a desktop keyboard for my laptop computer …… I’m trying to figure out how I’m going to hold down the space bar and the insert key on the numb pad at the same time while pressing O and D.



Laura



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 9:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: PDF email attachments



Laura,

To be perfectly honest I very, very seldom have clients do OCR using JAWS itself, but in consulting my Keyboard Shortcuts document the Recognize Current PDF Document is INSERT+Spacebar, followed by O and then D. The Announce Help Message for OCR commands is INSERT+Spacebar, followed by O and then the question mark.

I don't even know if JAWS OCR results can be permanently saved with the file that's just been OCR-ed. Someone can surely say whether they can or cannot that uses the feature with some frequency.

I use a third party PDF Viewer that isn't very accessible from a "use it as a PDF reader with a screen reader" perspective, but its OCR function is excellent, allows you to save the resulting text layer with the original file for later use. That OCR function is completely accessible, too.

Brian
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Re: PDF email attachments

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

You said Insert Space and O, but on the next one, Insert O then Space. I am assuming that it is Insert-Space-O-D and Insert-Space-O-C?

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 4:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: PDF email attachments

Hi Laura,

You are correct. Insert-Space, O and D will scan a multiple page document. Insert-O, space and C will scan a single page. I did try the first option the other day on a pdf document that was reported as blank, and Jaws reported, OCR Failed to Start, so I could not complete the process on that pdf file. It was Dragon Naturally Speaking documentation which I was unable to scan.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 9:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: PDF email attachments

Brian,



When I opened the PDF attachment and tried to read it Jaws did what you said, it said “blank”. Since I didn’t know what OCR was and have never used this I did a Google search. The information I found said to press insert + space bar, O, D to run OCR.



Could you please tell me if this information is correct before I try this? ...... If this is not correct, could you tell me how to use OCR to read PDF documents?



Often I’m hesitant to try things because it could be several days before I would have a sighted person available to help if something messes up and my computer won’t talk to me.



Laura





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 6:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: PDF email attachments



Laura,

Also know that if you open something in Adobe Reader and you get the statement "blank" from JAWS it's almost certainly an old PDF that was scanned as an image PDF, which means each page, even if it's entirely composed of text is, for all practical intents and purposes, a picture. If you know that the content is text then you will need to run OCR on the document before it can be read.

Even thought you can open PDFs using more recent versions of MS-Office, I believe that only works for PDF files that already have a text layer and are searchable. If someone can try to open a PDF file that they know to be an image PDF using Office and report back I'd love to know exactly what office does and whether there's any "behind the scenes" OCR as part of the conversion process. I'm suspecting not.


Brian
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I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
~ Poul Anderson