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Re: My monitor is totally black

Charles Coe
 

Hi, George,

I would suggest googling the "black monitor repair" . You will find solutions on how to repair this type of problem. There is even you tube videos on the topic.

You may have a problem with worn out capacitors in the monitor if it has been used a lot.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 8:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: My monitor is totally black

George,

Most separate PC monitors have an on-off switch. have you looked for anything like that?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "George Marshall" <geoma4.marshall@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 07:47 AM
Subject: My monitor is totally black



Hi:

I hope someone can help, give me some ideas? As I stated in this subject
line my monitor won't come on. I've checked in the devices and clicked on
the monitor. It tells me this device is working properly but the screen is
black. Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?

Thanks for any help,
George R. Marshall
geoma4.marshall@gmail.com


Re: Reading text in Windows 10 Settings application

 

Hi,
Touch cursor is the best around solution for this.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason
White via Groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 8:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading text in Windows 10 Settings application

Although everything which receives focus in the Settings application can be
read with JAWS, the JAWS cursor and Insert+B commands are unable to review
any of the text.

There are situations in which I need to read text that does not receive
focus.
For example, when "yes" and "no" buttons are presented, I need to read the
text that precedes them so as to understand the question asked.


Is there a known solution?


Re: Reading text in Windows 10 Settings application

 

Jason,

            Have you tried hitting the F1 button to see if Microsoft has put help text on these controls that matches what the control labels are?  That is a common, if not universal, practice.

            If that does work would you please report back on what dialog(s) you've used it with?

Brian
-- 
I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
     ~  Poul Anderson


Reading text in Windows 10 Settings application

Jason White
 

Although everything which receives focus in the Settings application can be
read with JAWS, the JAWS cursor and Insert+B commands are unable to review any
of the text.

There are situations in which I need to read text that does not receive focus.
For example, when "yes" and "no" buttons are presented, I need to read the
text that precedes them so as to understand the question asked.


Is there a known solution?


Re: My monitor is totally black

Dave...
 

George,

Most separate PC monitors have an on-off switch. have you looked for
anything like that?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "George Marshall" <geoma4.marshall@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 07:47 AM
Subject: My monitor is totally black



Hi:

I hope someone can help, give me some ideas? As I stated in this subject
line my monitor won't come on. I've checked in the devices and clicked on
the monitor. It tells me this device is working properly but the screen is
black. Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?

Thanks for any help,
George R. Marshall
geoma4.marshall@gmail.com


Re: Windows 10 settings

 

I believe what you're referring to is in the Updates & Security Dialog, Windows Updates Pane, under the Advanced Options Link.   Once you have opened the Advanced Options dialog, there is a link that reads "Choose How Updates are Delivered," activate it.   In the dialog that comes up you have a Toggle Switch that tells you that when it's turned on your computer may send part or all of updates it has already downloaded to either other computers on your local network or on your local network and the internet, depending on what you have selected in the radio button group below.

That radio button group lets you select PCs on my local network or PCs on my local network and PCs on the internet.

If you anticipate even the possibility of having more than one Windows 10 machine on your local network it makes no sense to turn this feature off entirely, since you could save time and data traffic by allowing computers only on your local network to exchange Windows Updates with each other rather than making each download the same update on its own.  I have that feature turned on, but with the "PCs on my local network" radio button checked so that I'm not serving as a potential Windows Update server to the world at large.

Brian
-- 
I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
     ~  Poul Anderson


Re: My monitor is totally black

 

George,

            Have you tested it on another machine.  It is possible that the monitor itself has died.  When that's the case the Device Manager will still report that the monitor is working properly because from the computer's side, it is.

            If this is a laptop I have other possibilities, but more information is needed.

Brian
-- 
I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
     ~  Poul Anderson


Windows 10 settings

Ralph Supernaw
 

Hi,

 

I am about to get Windows 10 on my computer.  I remember something being said about Windows 10 allowing my computer processer to be used by Microsoft as some sort of distributed network.  I know that’s vague but I don’t know the proper terminology.  My question is what adjustment to settings do I need to make in order to prevent this?

 

Thanks.


My monitor is totally black

George Marshall
 

Hi:

I hope someone can help, give me some ideas? As I stated in this subject line my monitor won't come on. I've checked in the devices and clicked on the monitor. It tells me this device is working properly but the screen is black. Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?

Thanks for any help,
George R. Marshall
geoma4.marshall@gmail.com


Re: PDF email attachments

Jason White
 

Jeanette McAllister PhD <Jeanette@mcallisterenterprisesusa.com> wrote:
I agree with Brian, if it's actually an image file you will probably need to use OCR.

And you can do this with JAWS key + Space, o, d.

This will process the entire document with OCR. (JAWS 16 and later.)


Re: PDF email attachments

 

Les Kriegler wrote, ". . . the only way to save a scanned PDF file done by Jaws is to copy the text to the Windows clipboard and paste it into another document."

This is good to know, especially if someone prefers to have the text saved in another file format. It also vindicates my decision, made long ago, not to use JAWS OCR when the client wants the PDF file to have the OCR text permanently saved with it and intends to access it on a repeated basis.
 

Brian
-- 
I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
     ~  Poul Anderson


Re: PDF email attachments

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Laura, you press insert Space, lift up those keys, then press O followed by D.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 10:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: PDF email attachments

Brian,



Sorry if I seem a bit dippy (LOL) but I’m still confused. Also, I use a desktop keyboard for my laptop computer …… I’m trying to figure out how I’m going to hold down the space bar and the insert key on the numb pad at the same time while pressing O and D.



Laura



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 9:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: PDF email attachments



Laura,

To be perfectly honest I very, very seldom have clients do OCR using JAWS itself, but in consulting my Keyboard Shortcuts document the Recognize Current PDF Document is INSERT+Spacebar, followed by O and then D. The Announce Help Message for OCR commands is INSERT+Spacebar, followed by O and then the question mark.

I don't even know if JAWS OCR results can be permanently saved with the file that's just been OCR-ed. Someone can surely say whether they can or cannot that uses the feature with some frequency.

I use a third party PDF Viewer that isn't very accessible from a "use it as a PDF reader with a screen reader" perspective, but its OCR function is excellent, allows you to save the resulting text layer with the original file for later use. That OCR function is completely accessible, too.

Brian
--
I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
~ Poul Anderson


Re: PDF email attachments

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Brian, the only way to save a scanned PDF file done by Jaws is to copy the text to the Windows clipboard and paste it into another document.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 10:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: PDF email attachments

Laura,

To be perfectly honest I very, very seldom have clients do OCR using JAWS itself, but in consulting my Keyboard Shortcuts document the Recognize Current PDF Document is INSERT+Spacebar, followed by O and then D. The Announce Help Message for OCR commands is INSERT+Spacebar, followed by O and then the question mark.

I don't even know if JAWS OCR results can be permanently saved with the file that's just been OCR-ed. Someone can surely say whether they can or cannot that uses the feature with some frequency.

I use a third party PDF Viewer that isn't very accessible from a "use it as a PDF reader with a screen reader" perspective, but its OCR function is excellent, allows you to save the resulting text layer with the original file for later use. That OCR function is completely accessible, too.



Brian
--
I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
~ Poul Anderson


Re: PDF email attachments

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Hi Laura,

You are correct. Insert-Space, O and D will scan a multiple page document. Insert-O, space and C will scan a single page. I did try the first option the other day on a pdf document that was reported as blank, and Jaws reported, OCR Failed to Start, so I could not complete the process on that pdf file. It was Dragon Naturally Speaking documentation which I was unable to scan.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 9:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: PDF email attachments

Brian,



When I opened the PDF attachment and tried to read it Jaws did what you said, it said “blank”. Since I didn’t know what OCR was and have never used this I did a Google search. The information I found said to press insert + space bar, O, D to run OCR.



Could you please tell me if this information is correct before I try this? ...... If this is not correct, could you tell me how to use OCR to read PDF documents?



Often I’m hesitant to try things because it could be several days before I would have a sighted person available to help if something messes up and my computer won’t talk to me.



Laura





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 6:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: PDF email attachments



Laura,

Also know that if you open something in Adobe Reader and you get the statement "blank" from JAWS it's almost certainly an old PDF that was scanned as an image PDF, which means each page, even if it's entirely composed of text is, for all practical intents and purposes, a picture. If you know that the content is text then you will need to run OCR on the document before it can be read.

Even thought you can open PDFs using more recent versions of MS-Office, I believe that only works for PDF files that already have a text layer and are searchable. If someone can try to open a PDF file that they know to be an image PDF using Office and report back I'd love to know exactly what office does and whether there's any "behind the scenes" OCR as part of the conversion process. I'm suspecting not.


Brian
--
I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
~ Poul Anderson


Re: PDF email attachments

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 


Hi, Laura. RoboBraille.org does well with these type of pdf documents. If you go to robobraille.org, upload the pdf, select the type of file you want the pdf to be converted to, and choose accessible format, it will send you an email with an accessible attachment. I have found Robobraille to be very good at converting pdf's with fewer errors than many of the OCR conversion tools.
 
You will first need to save the pdf attachment to your computer as a file so that you can upload it to the website.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: PDF email attachments

Brian,

 

Ding! (smile); I understand now but am somewhat frustrated …… The first time I opened this attachment Jaws said “blank” and now when I open the attachment it tells me “Alert: Empty document” and when I try to run OCR it says there is no document (sigh).  I’m very appreciative for your help and others who have given input on this and hope y’all will be able to help me resolve this issue.

 

It’s getting late in my time zone so I think I’ll call it a night and try again in the morning.

 

Thank you,

Laura

   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 10:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: PDF email attachments

 

Laura,

          Each of us has been dippy at one point or another in our lives!!

          You don't hold down all four keys at once.  The description from the shortcut file I gave earlier is accurate.  It's INSERT+Spacebar, [release that dual key press], followed by O, [release that letter O], followed by D [release that letter D].  The same for the announce help messages for OCR except that final character is a question mark instead of a D.

           There are some triple and quadruple key presses that are for very rarely used commands that one doesn't ever want to trigger unintentionally.  In that case it would be written with the plus sign between all three or four keys, an artificial example would be something like INSERT+CTRL+SHIFT+NumPad Multiply.

Brian
-- 
I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
     ~  Poul Anderson



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Re: PDF email attachments

 

Laura,

          It's late in my time zone (Eastern US), too.  Let me know how things go tomorrow.  Also, if any one of those PDF files is not of a private nature feel free to e-mail me one.  I can take a look at the thing and see what, if anything, PDF XChange Viewer can do with it as far as OCR.

          By the way, a serious answer to your earlier question about how you'd do a triple or quadruple key press when needed is:  with two hands.  That's the only way I can succeed at doing them.

Brian
-- 
I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
     ~  Poul Anderson


Re: PDF email attachments

Laura Richardson
 

Brian,

 

Ding! (smile); I understand now but am somewhat frustrated …… The first time I opened this attachment Jaws said “blank” and now when I open the attachment it tells me “Alert: Empty document” and when I try to run OCR it says there is no document (sigh).  I’m very appreciative for your help and others who have given input on this and hope y’all will be able to help me resolve this issue.

 

It’s getting late in my time zone so I think I’ll call it a night and try again in the morning.

 

Thank you,

Laura

   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 10:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: PDF email attachments

 

Laura,

          Each of us has been dippy at one point or another in our lives!!

          You don't hold down all four keys at once.  The description from the shortcut file I gave earlier is accurate.  It's INSERT+Spacebar, [release that dual key press], followed by O, [release that letter O], followed by D [release that letter D].  The same for the announce help messages for OCR except that final character is a question mark instead of a D.

           There are some triple and quadruple key presses that are for very rarely used commands that one doesn't ever want to trigger unintentionally.  In that case it would be written with the plus sign between all three or four keys, an artificial example would be something like INSERT+CTRL+SHIFT+NumPad Multiply.

Brian
-- 
I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
     ~  Poul Anderson


Re: PDF email attachments

 

Laura,

          Each of us has been dippy at one point or another in our lives!!

          You don't hold down all four keys at once.  The description from the shortcut file I gave earlier is accurate.  It's INSERT+Spacebar, [release that dual key press], followed by O, [release that letter O], followed by D [release that letter D].  The same for the announce help messages for OCR except that final character is a question mark instead of a D.

           There are some triple and quadruple key presses that are for very rarely used commands that one doesn't ever want to trigger unintentionally.  In that case it would be written with the plus sign between all three or four keys, an artificial example would be something like INSERT+CTRL+SHIFT+NumPad Multiply.

Brian
-- 
I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
     ~  Poul Anderson


Re: PDF email attachments

Shan Noyes
 

No he do not have to hold all those keys down at the same time you do insert plus the then release them and then you could the letter old for OCR and then it'll ask you what to say Dan any D for document

Sent from my iPhone

On May 13, 2016, at 8:29 PM, Laura Richardson <laurakr65@...> wrote:

Brian,

 

Sorry if I seem a bit dippy (LOL) but I’m still confused.  Also, I use a desktop keyboard for my laptop computer …… I’m trying to figure out how I’m going to hold down the space bar and the insert key on the numb pad at the same time while pressing O and D.

 

Laura

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 9:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: PDF email attachments

 

Laura,

           To be perfectly honest I very, very seldom have clients do OCR using JAWS itself, but in consulting my Keyboard Shortcuts document the Recognize Current  PDF Document is INSERT+Spacebar, followed by O and then D.  The Announce Help Message for OCR commands is INSERT+Spacebar, followed by O and then the question mark.

           I don't even know if JAWS OCR results can be permanently saved with the file that's just been OCR-ed.  Someone can surely say whether they can or cannot that uses the feature with some frequency.

           I use a third party PDF Viewer that isn't very accessible from a "use it as a PDF reader with a screen reader" perspective, but its OCR function is excellent, allows you to save the resulting text layer with the original file for later use.  That OCR function is completely accessible, too.

Brian
-- 
I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
     ~  Poul Anderson


Re: PDF email attachments

Laura Richardson
 

Brian,

 

Sorry if I seem a bit dippy (LOL) but I’m still confused.  Also, I use a desktop keyboard for my laptop computer …… I’m trying to figure out how I’m going to hold down the space bar and the insert key on the numb pad at the same time while pressing O and D.

 

Laura

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 9:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: PDF email attachments

 

Laura,

           To be perfectly honest I very, very seldom have clients do OCR using JAWS itself, but in consulting my Keyboard Shortcuts document the Recognize Current  PDF Document is INSERT+Spacebar, followed by O and then D.  The Announce Help Message for OCR commands is INSERT+Spacebar, followed by O and then the question mark.

           I don't even know if JAWS OCR results can be permanently saved with the file that's just been OCR-ed.  Someone can surely say whether they can or cannot that uses the feature with some frequency.

           I use a third party PDF Viewer that isn't very accessible from a "use it as a PDF reader with a screen reader" perspective, but its OCR function is excellent, allows you to save the resulting text layer with the original file for later use.  That OCR function is completely accessible, too.

Brian
-- 
I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
     ~  Poul Anderson