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Re: jaws keeps saying clickable in Firefox 46

Mo McCleary <mo.mccleary@...>
 

Stan,

Go to Settings Center while in fire fox with Jaws key + 6 on number row and search for    

Indicate Element Attribute and uncheck it. 

 

Hope this helps,

 

Mo

 

 

From: Stan Holdeman [mailto:sholdeman@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 3:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws keeps saying clickable in Firefox 46

 

Fellow Listers: Jaws 17 keeps saying clickable every few words when reading a NY Times article in Firefox 46. I am running a windows 7 machine.

 

How can I get rid of these unwanted clickables?

 

Stan

 


Re: QUICK Pole on some keystrokes and concepts

Maria Campbell
 

I don't use the num pad except for the insert key plus num pad 2 for reading.  I also use the control plus tab on the web.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
--Attributed to Jimi Hendrix

On 4/28/2016 2:24 AM, Poppa Bear wrote:

So, I was talking to another instructor the other day about JAWS keystrokes and she was saying that she always uses the arrow pad on the num pad for her reading navigation commands and I told her that I was just taught to use the arrows with the Jaws key for most of the same commands and I was wondering if I am the complete minority on this. Do most people use the arrow functions on the num pad, or do you use the arrow keys instead? The second question, when on the internet do you open new pages in a separate window with Shift Enter, or do you open them in a new tab with Control enter? Thanks for indulging my curiosity.



Re: QUICK Pole on some keystrokes and concepts

Mario
 

I usually use the seperate arrow keys in combination with the screen reader's navigation in documents, spreadsheets, etc.
I tend to want to open pages on the net in new windows, but sometimes opening them in a new tab works better. it just depends on what works better.

On 4/28/2016 2:24 AM, Poppa Bear wrote:
So, I was talking to another instructor the other day about JAWS
keystrokes and she was saying that she always uses the arrow pad on the
num pad for her reading navigation commands and I told her that I was
just taught to use the arrows with the Jaws key for most of the same
commands and I was wondering if I am the complete minority on this. Do
most people use the arrow functions on the num pad, or do you use the
arrow keys instead? The second question, when on the internet do you
open new pages in a separate window with Shift Enter, or do you open
them in a new tab with Control enter? Thanks for indulging my curiosity.


Re: QUICK Pole on some keystrokes and concepts

Bissett, Tom <tom.bissett@...>
 

I use the numpad for arrowing around.  I find that then my home and end keys are right there and so is the slash and star keys for simulating the mouse clicks.  Save me a lot of hand movement. 

Regards

Tom Bisset

 

From: Poppa Bear [mailto:heavens4real@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 2:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: QUICK Pole on some keystrokes and concepts

 

So, I was talking to another instructor the other day about JAWS keystrokes and she was saying that she always uses the arrow pad on the num pad for her reading navigation commands and I told her that I was just taught to use the arrows with the Jaws key for most of the same commands and I was wondering if I am the complete minority on this. Do most people use the arrow functions on the num pad, or do you use the arrow keys instead? The second question, when on the internet do you open new pages in a separate window with Shift Enter, or do you open them in a new tab with Control enter? Thanks for indulging my curiosity.


Re: QUICK Pole on some keystrokes and concepts

Tom Macha <toml614@...>
 

Hello, my name is Tom. I use shift enter. I was also taught to use the numpad when an option is open. However; I find the arrow keys to be preferred at times. I think both numpad and arrows should be taught in case the client becomes employed in a data entry roll (10 key). I am not an instructor just my opinions here.

 

From: Robin Frost [mailto:robini71@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 2:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: QUICK Pole on some keystrokes and concepts

 

Hi,

by and large I use the number pad when available. And I usually default to shift enter over control enter as that’s how I was initially taught to do both things about which you asked.

I hope that helps.

Robin   

 

 

From: Poppa Bear

Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 2:24 AM

Subject: QUICK Pole on some keystrokes and concepts

 

So, I was talking to another instructor the other day about JAWS keystrokes and she was saying that she always uses the arrow pad on the num pad for her reading navigation commands and I told her that I was just taught to use the arrows with the Jaws key for most of the same commands and I was wondering if I am the complete minority on this. Do most people use the arrow functions on the num pad, or do you use the arrow keys instead? The second question, when on the internet do you open new pages in a separate window with Shift Enter, or do you open them in a new tab with Control enter? Thanks for indulging my curiosity.


Re: compressing large files

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Sound Recorder won't do stereo, far as I can tell.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 1:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: compressing large files

do you know what format the recording is? if it's an mp3, it is a compressed audio file and will not significantly compress any further.
but if it is a wav format, converting it to an mp3 or other format will result in about 1/40th of the size, depending on what what format it's converted to.
if you know or can find out what frequency, bit rate, and if it is a monaurial or stereo recording, it might be possible to shrink it a bit to a suitable size. or, and this is probly not possible, rerecording it at a different frequency, bit rate, and a single channel (mono) might result in a smaller size, but am not sure of the recording quality that will result.

------- Original Message --------
From: Marianne Denning
Sent: Thursday, Apr 21, 2016 12:44:53 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: compressing large files

It is a recording of a lesson with a student. We used Sound Recorder for the recording and need to send it to other teachers so we are all on the same page. Thanks! Let me know if I would do it any differently based on your instructions.

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Mario <mrb620@... <mailto:mrb620@...>> wrote:

can you explain what you want to do, and what type of file or files
you want to compress? there are some formats that will not
significantly compress, thus wasting your time. but if you're
wanting to package them up into a zip file:

with the file or files selected, press the applications key or if
you don't have one, press shift+f10. arrow down to the send to
dialog and press enter, and arrow to and enter on compressed... you
can then type a name for the file + the dot .zip extension or
accept the default name and press enter. note the name of the zip file.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Marianne Denning
Sent: Thursday, Apr 21, 2016 11:20:03 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: compressing large files

I am running JAWS 17 and Windows 7. I need to compress a large file so
I can email it. How can I do that with JFW?

--
Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053 <tel:%28513%29%20607-6053>








--
Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053


Re: QUICK Pole on some keystrokes and concepts

Feliciano G
 

I use the arrow keys for the most part. I like to work with tabs rather than multiple windows.

Regards,Feliciano For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v 

On Apr 27, 2016, at 11:24 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...> wrote:

So, I was talking to another instructor the other day about JAWS keystrokes and she was saying that she always uses the arrow pad on the num pad for her reading navigation commands and I told her that I was just taught to use the arrows with the Jaws key for most of the same commands and I was wondering if I am the complete minority on this. Do most people use the arrow functions on the num pad, or do you use the arrow keys instead? The second question, when on the internet do you open new pages in a separate window with Shift Enter, or do you open them in a new tab with Control enter? Thanks for indulging my curiosity.


Re: QUICK Pole on some keystrokes and concepts

Michael Mote
 

Hi there!  I am a JAWS user, and I normally use the regular arrow keys to read through messages line by line.  I I want to read by sentnce I use Alt plus the down arrow key to read the next sentence, Alt plus up arrow to read the previous and Alt plus Num pad 5 to read the current.  I also use control plus enter to open a new web page if I need to do that.

 

 

 

From: Poppa Bear [mailto:heavens4real@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 1:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: QUICK Pole on some keystrokes and concepts

 

So, I was talking to another instructor the other day about JAWS keystrokes and she was saying that she always uses the arrow pad on the num pad for her reading navigation commands and I told her that I was just taught to use the arrows with the Jaws key for most of the same commands and I was wondering if I am the complete minority on this. Do most people use the arrow functions on the num pad, or do you use the arrow keys instead? The second question, when on the internet do you open new pages in a separate window with Shift Enter, or do you open them in a new tab with Control enter? Thanks for indulging my curiosity.


Re: If you want to get out of forty minute mode?

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I doubt it is. Usually, if you had a valid authorization, you wouldn't be in 40-minute mode. However, certain crashes can cause this, in which case you might try a system restore back to when everything worked correctly.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2016 2:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: If you want to get out of forty minuit mode?

please explain how. I don't recall if this is possible.
.



-------- Original Message --------
From: David Ingram
Sent: Tuesday, Apr 19, 2016 11:33:39 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: If you want to get out of forty minuit mode?

Hi list members, if you want to get out of forty minuit mode you may have to have your authorization count set back to three, and or you need the authorization code in order to get out of forty minuit mode and be able to use jaws with out having to reboot your computer each time that the forty minuits is reached. Just some things to think about.


Re: JAWS "40-minute mode"

Shan Noyes
 

No the 40 minute mode applies that once you've hit the 40 minutes you have to reboot your whole computer before you can start jaws again at least that's the way it used to be

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 28, 2016, at 6:44 AM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <Ted.Lisle@...> wrote:

40 minutes per session.  You can reactivate, but you must reboot first.

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 11:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS "40-minute mode"

 

Hello All,

         I have heard reference made to the 40-minute mode for JAWS if you have a copy that has been installed but not activated/licensed.  I only occasionally need to work with JAWS briefly to either try something out or figure something out on my own machine.  My question revolves around how that 40-minutes works:   Is it 40 minutes total, and then JAWS stops working and you'd need to uninstall it, or is it 40-minutes over some set interval of time, say a day, where you can fire up JAWS at a later time and have another 40 minutes?

Brian


Re: JAWS "40-minute mode"

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

40 minutes per session.  You can reactivate, but you must reboot first.

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 11:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS "40-minute mode"

 

Hello All,

         I have heard reference made to the 40-minute mode for JAWS if you have a copy that has been installed but not activated/licensed.  I only occasionally need to work with JAWS briefly to either try something out or figure something out on my own machine.  My question revolves around how that 40-minutes works:   Is it 40 minutes total, and then JAWS stops working and you'd need to uninstall it, or is it 40-minutes over some set interval of time, say a day, where you can fire up JAWS at a later time and have another 40 minutes?

Brian


Re: QUICK Pole on some keystrokes and concepts

Robin Frost
 

Hi,
by and large I use the number pad when available. And I usually default to shift enter over control enter as that’s how I was initially taught to do both things about which you asked.
I hope that helps.
Robin   
 
 

From: Poppa Bear
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 2:24 AM
Subject: QUICK Pole on some keystrokes and concepts
 

So, I was talking to another instructor the other day about JAWS keystrokes and she was saying that she always uses the arrow pad on the num pad for her reading navigation commands and I told her that I was just taught to use the arrows with the Jaws key for most of the same commands and I was wondering if I am the complete minority on this. Do most people use the arrow functions on the num pad, or do you use the arrow keys instead? The second question, when on the internet do you open new pages in a separate window with Shift Enter, or do you open them in a new tab with Control enter? Thanks for indulging my curiosity.


QUICK Pole on some keystrokes and concepts

Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...>
 

So, I was talking to another instructor the other day about JAWS keystrokes and she was saying that she always uses the arrow pad on the num pad for her reading navigation commands and I told her that I was just taught to use the arrows with the Jaws key for most of the same commands and I was wondering if I am the complete minority on this. Do most people use the arrow functions on the num pad, or do you use the arrow keys instead? The second question, when on the internet do you open new pages in a separate window with Shift Enter, or do you open them in a new tab with Control enter? Thanks for indulging my curiosity.


Re: Running Jaws/NVDA and Zoom Text as a high bred system for a client

Poppa Bear <heavens4real@...>
 

Thank you very much for your thoughts on this. I am heading in this direction right now, my I-T guy put a MAGic demo on the server in my lab today to start using on some of the computers in there.

 

From: ptusing [mailto:ptusing@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 10:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Running Jaws/NVDA and Zoom Text as a high bred system for a client

 

Hi all,

I have used MAGIC software even  before it was named  MAGIC and have used MAGIC and its   predecessor  with JAWS for almost 19  years.

 

MAGIC is more responsive and the JAWS commands are the same for both and  work great with MAGIC when both programs are used simultaneously.

 

To somewhat counter the assertion that magnifying to +11 and above does not work, that depends on the print size  of the document being magnified

For example, some pdf documents might be easier to read for some people if  magnified more simply because if one uses  JAWS and MAGIC  at the same time,

JAWS’ reading speed places the visual reading correctly for the MAGIC user.

MAGIC and JAWS users can hear the word spoken as MAGIC’s  focus hits that word which is  visible  within the sentence.

The focus moves so smoothly when using the JAWS  “say all” that the visual reading is smooth.

JAWS and MAGIC are so well integrated that

The placement of the visual words is easier wherever one wants them to be while giving the user the easy way to achieve rapid reading speeds  with JAWS.

 

In my  opinion a user  of large print magnification who might consider using JAWS at some time would benefit from using

MAGIC since  one would be learning JAWS commands and JAWS  works so well with MAGIC.

 

Hope this is  helpful

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: Michael Mote [mailto:miketmote73@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Running Jaws/NVDA and Zoom Text as a high bred system for a client

 

I would recommend JAWS and Magic together.  This way, the user gets to use what vision she has, and also learns the screen reader JAWS.  Incidently, many of the same keyboard commands work in Magic as well as JAWS.  I would also obtain a Magic keyboard, so she can utilize the shortcut keys that this keyboard provides for Magic specifically.

 

 

From: Poppa Bear [mailto:heavens4real@...]
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 10:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Running Jaws/NVDA and Zoom Text as a high bred system for a client

 

So, I have a client who is a low vision with a visual acuity of 20 over 800, I assessed her on Zoom text today and she was at 50 times magnification. In my opinion that is really the threshold for any real productivity with Zoom Text. Also she is fairly rapidly losing more vision. I and a co teacher want to push her in the direction of full on screen reader emersion, but I don’t think that the O and M instructor feels the same. I have the ultimate say, but I was considering using a screen reader along side of the Zoom text, and thinking about making a slower transition, but I don’t want to just post pone the inevitable either. I have ran both a screen reader and Zoom Text together for personal training purposes without any major problems. Any thoughts that could give me a little light on the situation would be appreciated.


Re: Skype

Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...>
 

thanks david.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 11:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Skype

Hi,
I think I have this one for you. The two important commands to go back and
forth, is ALT+1 and ALT+2. When you launch Skype, press alt+ the number One
on the numbers row. That will put you on your list of contacts. Choose the
person you want, and then press Alt+ the number two on the numbers row and
then press CTRL 1 through 9 to hear that conversation. When you are done
with that conversation, press ALT+1 again to go back to your list of
contacts again and down or up arrow to another name and press ALT+2 again to
read that conversation with CTRL 1 through 9. In short, when you are on your
list of contacts, press ALT+2 to go to that conversation and then press
CTRL+ 1 through 9, and then press ALT+1 to go back to your contacts, and do
the same thing all over again. Hope this helps. I haven't used Doug Lee's
scripts for years. Skype works great right out of the box. Have a great one.


-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 10:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Skype

That reports the conversation, but doesn't move there.
The FS tech person said control+tab. This is maybe true with the
Doug Lee scripts, but they won't install on my computer.
At 07:33 PM 4/27/2016, you wrote:
press control 1 through nine.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 6:45 PM
Subject: Skype


In Skype, how do I move from one conversation window to another? JAWS 17, Skype 7.22. FS tech support didn't know, but recommended Doug Lee's scripts. they will install on my JAWS 16 but not 17.




Re: Skype

David Moore
 

Hi,
I think I have this one for you. The two important commands to go back and forth, is ALT+1 and ALT+2. When you launch Skype, press alt+ the number One on the numbers row. That will put you on your list of contacts. Choose the person you want, and then press Alt+ the number two on the numbers row and then press CTRL 1 through 9 to hear that conversation. When you are done with that conversation, press ALT+1 again to go back to your list of contacts again and down or up arrow to another name and press ALT+2 again to read that conversation with CTRL 1 through 9. In short, when you are on your list of contacts, press ALT+2 to go to that conversation and then press CTRL+ 1 through 9, and then press ALT+1 to go back to your contacts, and do the same thing all over again. Hope this helps. I haven't used Doug Lee's scripts for years. Skype works great right out of the box. Have a great one.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 10:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Skype

That reports the conversation, but doesn't move there.
The FS tech person said control+tab. This is maybe true with the
Doug Lee scripts, but they won't install on my computer.
At 07:33 PM 4/27/2016, you wrote:
press control 1 through nine.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 6:45 PM
Subject: Skype


In Skype, how do I move from one conversation window to another? JAWS 17, Skype 7.22. FS tech support didn't know, but recommended Doug Lee's scripts. they will install on my JAWS 16 but not 17.




Re: Skype

Ann Byrne
 

That reports the conversation, but doesn't move there.
The FS tech person said control+tab. This is maybe true with the Doug Lee scripts, but they won't install on my computer.

At 07:33 PM 4/27/2016, you wrote:
press control 1 through nine.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 6:45 PM
Subject: Skype


In Skype, how do I move from one conversation window to another? JAWS 17, Skype 7.22. FS tech support didn't know, but recommended Doug Lee's scripts. they will install on my JAWS 16 but not 17.




Re: Skype

Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...>
 

press control 1 through nine.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 6:45 PM
Subject: Skype


In Skype, how do I move from one conversation window to another? JAWS 17, Skype 7.22. FS tech support didn't know, but recommended Doug Lee's scripts. they will install on my JAWS 16 but not 17.




Skype

Ann Byrne
 

In Skype, how do I move from one conversation window to another? JAWS 17, Skype 7.22. FS tech support didn't know, but recommended Doug Lee's scripts. they will install on my JAWS 16 but not 17.


Re: questions about windows10

David Moore
 

Hi,
Win10 is still free until the end of July. Cortana is a personal assistant just like Siri is on the iPhone but much better!

-----Original Message-----
From: judith bron
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 8:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: questions about windows10

What is Cortana? If I download Windows 10 will this pesky Touch cursor finally have a role on my computer? BTW, is the windows 10 download still free?

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 8:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: questions about windows10

I've never tried Cortana. I know I can hit Control-S and get it. Are there things I would need to know. Would I ask her verbally a question or type it?

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 8:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: questions about windows10

David Moore wrote: "Also, Cortana, she rocks!"

Even though I don't use her, I know a lot of people who do and I've taught some of them how to do so. I never thought I'd see the day where I'd say that Microsoft made something like Cortana that's better than Apple's equivalent, but she seems to work much better than Siri does. It's also a simple matter to tweak things to make Cortana use a browser that's not MS-Edge and a search engine that's not Bing. I've got her using the DuckDuckGo search engine under Firefox in one client's configuration and with Chrome (employing the Chrometana add-in) on another's.

Carolyn Arnold put it well when she said, "I'm not saying it is a piece of cake, it is just what it is and is going to be for the next several years to come."

Right now Windows 10 is quite new to virtually everyone, and we're all going through the transition, and confusion and occasional PITAs that entails at the same time. We're still early adopters. Those who come over the next year or two will be OK as far as having a cohort that's going through the transition at the same time, too. But if you wait really late you end up "being out there alone" since a lot of what people knew about how they tweaked thing X or Y to get it to work as they'd like it to, or as close to it as one can get, gets lost with the passing of time. I certainly can't answer WinXP or Win7 questions these days with the level of proficiency I currently have with Win8.1 and Win10 because I have little need to deal with customizing and tweaking those environments these days.

Brian
--
I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
~ Poul Anderson

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