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Re: How to make Internet explore the default program to open for links in an email outlook.

paul lemm
 

Hi Brien,

 

Again really helpful, many thanks

 

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 2:20 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make Internet explore the default program to open for links in an email outlook.

 

Paul,

     CTRL+D adds the page you're currently viewing to Bookmarks.  SHIFT+CTRL+D adds all tabs currently up to Bookmarks.

Brian


Re: How to make Internet explore the default program to open for links in an email outlook.

 

Paul,

     CTRL+D adds the page you're currently viewing to Bookmarks.  SHIFT+CTRL+D adds all tabs currently up to Bookmarks.

Brian


Re: How to make Internet explore the default program to open for links in an email outlook.

paul lemm
 

Hi Brien,

 

Thanks for the help with chrome  bookmarks , that was exactly what I was after, I vaguely remember it being more complex than that  when I looked last time, but 3 key strokes I can live with.  In fact at my work we are do to get a new system in at the end of this year which is internet based, but doesn’t support IE and is designed to work  most optimally  in chrome so I should really move over to chrome at some stage so I’m more familiar with it when we get the new system at work.

 

One other quick question just whilst we’re on the subject, is there a key command for adding a new bookmark or favourite to chrome?

 

Paul

 

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 1:34 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make Internet explore the default program to open for links in an email outlook.

 

Paul,

          I gather you mean a parallel construction to ALT+A to get into the Favorites menu in IE but in Chrome.

          It's just ever so slightly more keystrokes since Chrome doesn't have a conventional menu.  You hit ALT to get focus on the Chrome Menu Key, followed by Enter to open the menu dropdown, followed by B to open the bookmarks submenu.  This involves one extra key stroke and none of them are in combination with the other, but are in sequence instead.  After you've done that down arrow will move you through the Bookmarks menu in almost precisely the same way you're accustomed to going through the Favorites menu.

          In Firefox it's ALT+B to bring up the Bookmarks Menu and down arrow to go item by item through your bookmarks.

          Both Firefox and Chrome can import your existing IE bookmarks when you install them or  you can do it manually later by exporting them from IE and importing them in on either Firefox and/or Chrome.

Brian


Re: saving files in specific folders Windows 10

Londa Peterson
 

 Hi Brian, Actually, you can pick where to save a downloaded file in IE 11. When you start your download and the notification bar appears, press alt + N. Tab to the "save split button". If you hit enter or the spacebar, the file will be in your default download location. If you down arrow, you will get a menu of options. One of these is "save as". You will then get a typical "save as" dialog box. You can change the name or the folder it goes into. I suppose you could also change the file type, but that's probably not a good idea. Hope this helps.

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:33 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: saving files in specific folders Windows 10

 

To set your download saving preferences in IE11:

1. Tools Menu, View Downloads option  (or you can hit the keyboard shortcut CTRL+J to bring it up).

2. There is an Options link in the View Downloads dialog box.  Find it and activate it.

3. The Download Options dialog box comes up.  It will show Downloads as the default download location.  There is a Browse button, activate it.

4. You now have a standard Windows Browse dialog (like you're used to when you do a Save As) that allows you to navigate wherever you wish to and to select a folder into which your downloads will be placed.  There is also a checkbox, "Notify me when my downloads are complete," which is checked by default.

Apparently IE11 does not support the modern convention of assigning either a default folder or to ask the user where they want to save any given file they download.  I haven't used IE in years, so had to look this up and walk myself through it.  If you want to get files to their final storage places you'll have to cut and paste, or move, them from the default download directory you specify after you complete the downloading.


thunderbird instructions wanted

Mark Furness
 

I am trying to learn Thunderbird running jaws 17 and windows 10.
Currently, I have 2 email accounts, but I do not know how to get to one from the other .Thus I am missing emails .

Is there a tutorial I can download to learn?

Thank you for all your help!!!!


Re: How to make Internet explore the default program to open for links in an email outlook.

 

Paul,

          I gather you mean a parallel construction to ALT+A to get into the Favorites menu in IE but in Chrome.

          It's just ever so slightly more keystrokes since Chrome doesn't have a conventional menu.  You hit ALT to get focus on the Chrome Menu Key, followed by Enter to open the menu dropdown, followed by B to open the bookmarks submenu.  This involves one extra key stroke and none of them are in combination with the other, but are in sequence instead.  After you've done that down arrow will move you through the Bookmarks menu in almost precisely the same way you're accustomed to going through the Favorites menu.

          In Firefox it's ALT+B to bring up the Bookmarks Menu and down arrow to go item by item through your bookmarks.

          Both Firefox and Chrome can import your existing IE bookmarks when you install them or  you can do it manually later by exporting them from IE and importing them in on either Firefox and/or Chrome.

Brian


Re: Chrome

judith bron
 

In my opinion and experience Firefox is better.

 

From: Tom macha [mailto:toml614@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 8:56 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Chrome

 

This may be a stupid question, but what is the difference between Firefox and Chrome? Which works better with jaws? I am wanting to switch because; of the push to switch to Edge. Thanks, Tom  


Re: Chrome

Jason White
 

Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:

The (brief) complicated:  There is a great deal of "look and feel"
difference between Firefox and Chrome.  From my experiences with clients I'd
have to say that Firefox remains just a bit easier to use with screen
readers than Chrome, but not by much.  A number of my clients use both
because one or the other works better with given websites.  One guy I work
with uses Chrome for Bookshare and Firefox for almost everything else.
 Others pick and choose between the two a bit more widely.
Both Chrome and Firefox offer much more extensive support for Web standards
than MSIE does. Microsoft's new Edge browser is also reputed to be much more
standards-compliant. This makes a real difference with modern Web applications
that are designed to use standards-based technology.

I predict that, increasingly, Web application developers won't bother to
support IE, but they likely will support Edge. Any good book on JavaScript
development shows how far behind IE is in its support for Web standards - and
that won't change, now that Edge is replacing it.


Re: How to make Internet explore the default program to open for links in an email outlook.

paul lemm
 

Hi Brien,

 

Yeah, I keep meaning to change from internet explorer to another browser, think I really only use internet explorer since it’s what I’ve always used and that’s where all my favourites are saved.  I’ve used both firefox and chrome before, the only thing with chrome  is there didn’t seem to be a simple  way of accessing bookmarks/favourites, I think you had to press various different keys to bring it up, whereas the thing I liked with internet explorer  is  it was just one quick  keyboard shortcut  to access all the favourites.  Do you by any chance know of a different way  to access favourites easily  in chrome? your probably right about it not being a bug though and more of a deliberate mistake  from Microsoft  to try and get people to either move over to edge or upgrade outlook to the newer versions.

 

Paul

any

 

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 1:50 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: How to make Internet explore the default program to open for links in an email outlook.

 

Paul,

          I wanted to report back that I tried resetting my default web browser to IE11 and direct clicking links in Outlook 2010 and I'm getting the same result as you are.  This only occurs if I choose IE11.  If I set my default browser to Firefox or Chrome the link simply opens in either one of those two browsers.  I suspect this behavior may be "a feature, not a bug" that MS is using to try to get people to transition to Edge.

          I have hated IE for so long that I haven't touched it, with the rarest of exceptions, for years.  I've been a combination Firefox and Chrome user for a long time now.

Brian


Re: jaws professional?

Charles Krugman
 

the issue is that as a free lance consultant I at times have to install JAWS on computers belonging to those firms that contract with me so I am not a regular home user.
Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 10:49 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws professional?

Another difference is what is announced too when jaws starts. Lol.

However, yes I know, one can change that with a script. A;all in fun mmmkay?

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Carlson [mailto:dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 10:09 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws professional?

Chuck,

No need. The Home version is the same as the professional version, except
for one thing: professional is more expensive.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Krugman" <ckrugman@sbcglobal.net>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 09:23 PM
Subject: Re: jaws professional?


in the past when there was more of an issue of using professional versions
of Windows such as in Windows Vista or 7 the professional version of Jaws
had to be used. I'm not sure if there are differences now with the latest
versions of Windows as since I had to upgrade several years ago I keep
upgrading the professional version of JAWS.
Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 8:01 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws professional?

It costs more, and is aimed at users who are using JAWS at their place of
employment. The higher price is often footed by the employer. No functional
difference.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Furness" <flintman57@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 07:55 AM
Subject: jaws professional?


What is so special about the professional version of Jaws?

Mark


Re: Trying to "reply to" messages, without success!

Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
 

I have tried Control Shift R, and that doesn’t seem to work for me.  However, I use ControlR, and that works just fine.  I am using Windows Live Mail.
 

Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 4:07 AM
Subject: Re: Trying to "reply to" messages, without success!
 
You appear to have replied to this message just fine...

From: HAMILTON [mailto:jim.hamilton@...]
Sent: March-29-16 5:12 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Trying to "reply to" messages, without success!

Well, I am not using the “reply” option.  Rather, I am sending this to Barbara  Mcginnis, who replied to my question, and to the “moderator”.

 

First, thanks for doing so Barbara.

 

Currently, I too am using MS OUTLOOK, part of MS OFFICE 2013, with Windows 8.1, IE11 and JAWS latest V: 17 update.

 

Again, thank you for responding.  This is the second time that I have tried to find out what I’m doing wrong, or what, if anything, may have changed in this regard.  As I said, I have no problem “muting threads”; so, I should be able to do this.

 

BTW:     I notice that my message did get into the JFW Digest; but, I am not sure if it got there naturally, or if a “moderator” put it on there for me.  If the latter, thank you.

 

Jim H

 

 


Re: Trying to "reply to" messages, without success!

James Homuth
 

You appear to have replied to this message just fine...


From: HAMILTON [mailto:jim.hamilton@...]
Sent: March-29-16 5:12 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Trying to "reply to" messages, without success!

Well, I am not using the “reply” option.  Rather, I am sending this to Barbara  Mcginnis, who replied to my question, and to the “moderator”.

 

First, thanks for doing so Barbara.

 

Currently, I too am using MS OUTLOOK, part of MS OFFICE 2013, with Windows 8.1, IE11 and JAWS latest V: 17 update.

 

Again, thank you for responding.  This is the second time that I have tried to find out what I’m doing wrong, or what, if anything, may have changed in this regard.  As I said, I have no problem “muting threads”; so, I should be able to do this.

 

BTW:     I notice that my message did get into the JFW Digest; but, I am not sure if it got there naturally, or if a “moderator” put it on there for me.  If the latter, thank you.

 

Jim H

 

 


Re: Chrome

Shan Noyes
 

Hi Jaws  works better with Firefox as compared to chrome however I wouldn't get too worried because Internet explorer 11 is going to be around for at least another year

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 29, 2016, at 6:55 PM, Tom macha <toml614@...> wrote:

This may be a stupid question, but what is the difference between Firefox and Chrome? Which works better with jaws? I am wanting to switch because; of the push to switch to Edge. Thanks, Tom  


Re: Chrome

 

It's not a stupid question, but depending on how you want to look at it it has a very simple or too complex to answer completely answer.

The simple:  There's no difference - they're both web browsers that do the same thing that any other web browser is intended to do.

The (brief) complicated:  There is a great deal of "look and feel" difference between Firefox and Chrome.  From my experiences with clients I'd have to say that Firefox remains just a bit easier to use with screen readers than Chrome, but not by much.  A number of my clients use both because one or the other works better with given websites.  One guy I work with uses Chrome for Bookshare and Firefox for almost everything else.  Others pick and choose between the two a bit more widely.

I only work with JAWS and web browsers when working with individual clients, since I do not need a screen reader for my own use and JAWS is far, far too expensive to get "just because."  I use NVDA when I need to dig in and have found that, for the most part, that the core concepts are very similar between the two.  The "bells and whistles" less so.

Brian


Chrome

Tom Macha <toml614@...>
 

This may be a stupid question, but what is the difference between Firefox and Chrome? Which works better with jaws? I am wanting to switch because; of the push to switch to Edge. Thanks, Tom  


Re: How to make Internet explore the default program to open for links in an email outlook.

 

Paul,

          I wanted to report back that I tried resetting my default web browser to IE11 and direct clicking links in Outlook 2010 and I'm getting the same result as you are.  This only occurs if I choose IE11.  If I set my default browser to Firefox or Chrome the link simply opens in either one of those two browsers.  I suspect this behavior may be "a feature, not a bug" that MS is using to try to get people to transition to Edge.

          I have hated IE for so long that I haven't touched it, with the rarest of exceptions, for years.  I've been a combination Firefox and Chrome user for a long time now.

Brian


Re: saving files in specific folders Windows 10

Tom Macha <toml614@...>
 

Thanks so much for your help, Tom

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 6:33 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: saving files in specific folders Windows 10

 

To set your download saving preferences in IE11:

1. Tools Menu, View Downloads option  (or you can hit the keyboard shortcut CTRL+J to bring it up).

2. There is an Options link in the View Downloads dialog box.  Find it and activate it.

3. The Download Options dialog box comes up.  It will show Downloads as the default download location.  There is a Browse button, activate it.

4. You now have a standard Windows Browse dialog (like you're used to when you do a Save As) that allows you to navigate wherever you wish to and to select a folder into which your downloads will be placed.  There is also a checkbox, "Notify me when my downloads are complete," which is checked by default.

Apparently IE11 does not support the modern convention of assigning either a default folder or to ask the user where they want to save any given file they download.  I haven't used IE in years, so had to look this up and walk myself through it.  If you want to get files to their final storage places you'll have to cut and paste, or move, them from the default download directory you specify after you complete the downloading.


Re: saving files in specific folders Windows 10

 

To set your download saving preferences in IE11:

1. Tools Menu, View Downloads option  (or you can hit the keyboard shortcut CTRL+J to bring it up).

2. There is an Options link in the View Downloads dialog box.  Find it and activate it.

3. The Download Options dialog box comes up.  It will show Downloads as the default download location.  There is a Browse button, activate it.

4. You now have a standard Windows Browse dialog (like you're used to when you do a Save As) that allows you to navigate wherever you wish to and to select a folder into which your downloads will be placed.  There is also a checkbox, "Notify me when my downloads are complete," which is checked by default.

Apparently IE11 does not support the modern convention of assigning either a default folder or to ask the user where they want to save any given file they download.  I haven't used IE in years, so had to look this up and walk myself through it.  If you want to get files to their final storage places you'll have to cut and paste, or move, them from the default download directory you specify after you complete the downloading.


Re: Trying to "reply to" messages, without success!

judith bron
 

Try control/shift R.

 

From: HAMILTON [mailto:jim.hamilton@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 5:12 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Trying to "reply to" messages, without success!

 

Well, I am not using the “reply” option.  Rather, I am sending this to Barbara  Mcginnis, who replied to my question, and to the “moderator”.

 

First, thanks for doing so Barbara.

 

Currently, I too am using MS OUTLOOK, part of MS OFFICE 2013, with Windows 8.1, IE11 and JAWS latest V: 17 update.

 

Again, thank you for responding.  This is the second time that I have tried to find out what I’m doing wrong, or what, if anything, may have changed in this regard.  As I said, I have no problem “muting threads”; so, I should be able to do this.

 

BTW:     I notice that my message did get into the JFW Digest; but, I am not sure if it got there naturally, or if a “moderator” put it on there for me.  If the latter, thank you.

 

Jim H

 

 


Re: Trying to "reply to" messages, without success!

HAMILTON
 

Well, I am not using the “reply” option.  Rather, I am sending this to Barbara  Mcginnis, who replied to my question, and to the “moderator”.

 

First, thanks for doing so Barbara.

 

Currently, I too am using MS OUTLOOK, part of MS OFFICE 2013, with Windows 8.1, IE11 and JAWS latest V: 17 update.

 

Again, thank you for responding.  This is the second time that I have tried to find out what I’m doing wrong, or what, if anything, may have changed in this regard.  As I said, I have no problem “muting threads”; so, I should be able to do this.

 

BTW:     I notice that my message did get into the JFW Digest; but, I am not sure if it got there naturally, or if a “moderator” put it on there for me.  If the latter, thank you.

 

Jim H