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Re: links
Drew Hunthausen
The text is read, just no indication that it's a link. No sound either. There are a couple other things different as well so ight just be a setting. thanks
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From: Soronel Haetir [mailto:soronel.haetir@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 6:21 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re: links As I recall the default behavior in jaws 17 is to play a ding sound when a link is encountered rather than say link as in prior versions. Unless what you mean is that the anchor text itself is not being read, in which case I have not encountered anything of the kind. On 3/23/16, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks, will play around. -- Soronel Haetir soronel.haetir@gmail.com
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Re: questions about Focus 40 Blue, JFW, and replacing USB cord
Shai
Hello Lee,
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Where in the braille section of Settings Center can one find the cell line length so that JAWS can be informed that the last cell would be 39? I was curious and searched there but did not find this setting.
On 3/24/16, Lee Maschmeyer <leemer1@comcast.net> wrote:
Hi Brent,
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Re: links
Soronel Haetir
As I recall the default behavior in jaws 17 is to play a ding sound
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when a link is encountered rather than say link as in prior versions. Unless what you mean is that the anchor text itself is not being read, in which case I have not encountered anything of the kind.
On 3/23/16, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: questions about Focus 40 Blue, JFW, and replacing USB cord
Lee Maschmeyer
Hi Brent,
Taking your questions in more-or-less reverse order, you should be able to use any USB cable that fits, but the best thing to do is take the cable you have to the store so they can see exactly what you need. For the panning, are you using Structured Mode? It's sometimes picky about letting you pan beyond the current line. Try switching to Line Mode and see if that helps or hurts. In Settings Center in the Braille section you can tell Jaws which is the first cell of the line and which is the last, so you can tell it the last cell is 39. But if I were you I'd talk to FS about getting a loaner while you get your unit repaired. The worst they can do is say No. The last I heard their hours of operation were quite long, specifically to deal with time zones; so I suspect you have a lot more time at your disposal than you think. HTH, -- Lee Maschmeyer "Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise." --Lewis Carroll
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questions about Focus 40 Blue, JFW, and replacing USB cord
Brent Harding
I have been using my Focus 40 Blue a lot more now
that I have started work recently. Before then, I would use it occasionally, and
I used it for my previous job for proofreading and reading various things. At my
current job, I have JFW 17, and lately, I discovered that dots 4, 5, and 6 on
the last cell just don't come up so that Y's feel like K's, and so forth. Is
there a way in JFW to tell it that it now only has 39 cells? Also, when I am in
read-only edit boxes in our system at work where disclosures sometimes appear, I
can't pan all the way through with the panning button like I can for the ones
that appear in Internet Explorer. The left rocker switch thing will get it down
to the next line, but knowing when I need a line down versus pan makes me have
to sound like I'm stumbling, and customers hang up, silently as I might add,
leaving me talking to myself unknowingly as my after call time ticks by. Is
there an easy way in JFW to make it ding when the next pan will result in
nothing so I know it's at the end of the print line, or JFW line, or whatever it
goes by when the new line command is called for? Finally, the end of the USB
cord that goes into the braille display is beginning to get a little bit of
exposed wire, and I want to get a new one so I don't get caught out when the
connection is broken enough to be unusable. Is it OK to just use a regular Micro
to normal USB cable despite the manual's dire warnings about FCC compliance?
FS's hours being Eastern instead of Central time means I would maybe have half
an hour, tops, to deal with them before I have to leave in the morning, and they
are closed within half an hour of when I officially get done, but completing the
last call of the day largely eliminates that time.
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Re: Jaws and ear pain
Tony Malykh
Thank you all for quick reply!
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Tony, Did you wear the plastic split during the day? Is your split for the upper teeth only? I have a split too and I wear it during my sleep only. I am a heavy grinder, and I was told that the split only protects the teeth, but doesn't really reduce the amount of grinding. I tried to wear the split while using JAWS, but it didn't seem to reduce my ear pain. I was also referred to a neuromuscular dentist, who told me he can make a really fancy split that would cover both upper and lower teeth and prevent grinding completely, but that would cost me around 10000 dollars, so I haven't made up my mind yet. Carolyn, Good idea. I called Freedom Scientific, but unfortunately they didn't have any suggestions. I'm sorry to hear about your tinnitus, it musdt be so frustrating to live with it... Gudrun, I tried having more breaks during the day. I even tried splitting my JAWS usage into 4 1-hour intervals with breaks in between, but that doesn't seem to help. It seems like my ears are sensitive to the total amount of time I listen to JAWS, and not the timing of the breaks in between. Tony
On 3/23/16, Robert Logue <bobcat11@shaw.ca> wrote:
Hi Tony. 'I'm sorry. I didn't read your whole story and gave you advice
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Re: links
Drew Hunthausen
Thanks, will play around.
From: Vanna Song [mailto:truewise.8614@...]
You might have to mess with the settings. Mine reds links just fine.
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Re: links
You might have to mess with the settings. Mine reds links just fine.
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links
Drew Hunthausen
Dear list, I upgraded to jaws 17 a few days ago, and am just now realizing that it doesn’t read any links on web pages or in files. I can click on them just as links, but it doesn’t tell me that they are actually links. Is anyone else experiencing this? thanks
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JAWS AND EAR PAIN
Sandra Streeter
Hi, Tony,
Have you tried earplugs? I like the ones that are spongy but not too soft,
shaped like tiny cylinders (not like a cone); you squeeze one end down (I
usually combine a rolling and squeezing motion) small enough to fit in your ear.
What I like about them is that they only filter some sound--so, speech and other
needed sounds are still available. I attended a Moody Blues concert a year and a
half ago, and my mother, who had been used to hearing their mellower tunes when
I played them through my bedroom door as a teen, asked why I was putting in
earplugs, and I told her that they do have some very loud songs--especially the
later ones; I gave her a fresh pair, and she was delighted with them; we got all
the necessary sound without ultra-amplification from the speakers and such. The
ones I got came from Amazon--I bought a lifetime supply, and carry one in every
conceivable bag I take anywhere, to ward against the unplanned fire alarm, loud
music, etc. I have both slight age-related hearing loss, and Asperger's-related
sensitivity to certain levels of sound or pitches, so they are perfect, when I
need them.
Sandra "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery The Little Prince
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Google sheets with Jaws 17
Lauren Snyder
Hi,
I am using Jaws 17, Windows 10 and I received a file that opened up in google sheets. Is there a way I can copy all the text and paste it into a Word or Notepad file or excel?
Please advise. Jaws can read it, but I can’t go from letter to letter.
Sincerely,
Lauren
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Re: Jaws and ear pain
Robert Logue
Hi Tony. 'I'm sorry. I didn't read your whole story and gave you advice you didn't need. You've already tried just about all I said.
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I sincerely apologize. Bob
On 3/22/2016 8:23 PM, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hi all.
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Re: firefox
Hi,
One way to do it is to go to your control panel. I think it is under programs. Scroll down to firefox and click on make default. You can also set it from the Fire Fox browser itself.
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Re: VLC Media Player
Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Not impossible; I had an Eastwood once that wouldn’t play for money, marbles or chalk. Try another title.
From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 2:09 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re: VLC Media Player
Hi Ted,
I've tried everything debbie, yourself, & others have suggested, & I can't get a DVD to play. I'm wondering that if by coincidence that the 2 DVD's I'm working with are defective in some way. Thank you very much for re-posting your suggestions. Take care. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) To: jfw@groups.io Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 5:04 AM Subject: Re: VLC Media Player
The Open menu under VLC should also do it. You get there by either right clicking or using the Alt Key. It gives you several options, one of which is disk. Look at that menu, choose your options, if any, then Enter on the Disk button; it should take off. You might also want to try the trick I mentioned yesterday, disabling disk menus, and going with the much simpler menu structure built into the program. You might also take it out of default, and allow Windows to ask what you want to do with the disk. That usually does it too.
Ted
From: Debbie April Yuille
[mailto:debbiey1982@...]
Hi Mike
You get VLC to play the DVD from the open with menu option in my computer/this PC once the DVD drive is selected. Now here is what I wrote to the list regarding getting DVD’s to play. What you do is go to the menu bar and find playback. Activate that, then arrow down until you find the title sub menu open that and click on the title that you want to play. Also, don’t forget to google “VLC Media Player for windows keyboard shortcuts”
HTH Debbie
From: Mike B.
[mailto:mb69mach1@...]
Hi All,
Running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, VLC, & Jaws 16. For the life of me I can't get a movie on DVD to play with VLc. I've tried uninstalling VLC & reinstalling using the custom settings, & no go. I've set VLC as the default player, & checked the defaults select all checkbox, but when choosing Play with VLc from the context menu I can't get the DVD to start. Would y'all give me a swift kick as to how to get DVD's to play with VLC? I know this topic was discussed the other day, & I thought I had saved the notes, but apparently not! I've tried a new movie from Amazon & also 1 that had been burned for us, & I can't get either 1 to play. Thanks much. Take care.
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Re: VLC Media Player
Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
Hi Ted,
I've tried everything debbie, yourself, &
others have suggested, & I can't get a DVD to play. I'm wondering that
if by coincidence that the 2 DVD's I'm working with are defective in some
way. Thank you very much for re-posting your suggestions.
Take care. Mike, Go Dodgers!
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From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
To: jfw@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 5:04 AM
Subject: Re: VLC Media Player The Open menu under VLC should also do it. You get there by either right clicking or using the Alt Key. It gives you several options, one of which is disk. Look at that menu, choose your options, if any, then Enter on the Disk button; it should take off. You might also want to try the trick I mentioned yesterday, disabling disk menus, and going with the much simpler menu structure built into the program. You might also take it out of default, and allow Windows to ask what you want to do with the disk. That usually does it too.
Ted
From: Debbie April Yuille
[mailto:debbiey1982@...]
Hi Mike
You get VLC to play the DVD from the open with menu option in my computer/this PC once the DVD drive is selected. Now here is what I wrote to the list regarding getting DVD’s to play. What you do is go to the menu bar and find playback. Activate that, then arrow down until you find the title sub menu open that and click on the title that you want to play. Also, don’t forget to google “VLC Media Player for windows keyboard shortcuts”
HTH Debbie
From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
Hi All,
Running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, VLC, & Jaws 16. For the life of me I can't get a movie on DVD to play with VLc. I've tried uninstalling VLC & reinstalling using the custom settings, & no go. I've set VLC as the default player, & checked the defaults select all checkbox, but when choosing Play with VLc from the context menu I can't get the DVD to start. Would y'all give me a swift kick as to how to get DVD's to play with VLC? I know this topic was discussed the other day, & I thought I had saved the notes, but apparently not! I've tried a new movie from Amazon & also 1 that had been burned for us, & I can't get either 1 to play. Thanks much. Take care.
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Re: Jaws and ear pain
Gudrun Brunot
Good analogy, David. I'm right down there with you.
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Gudrun
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From: Dave Carlson [mailto:dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:16 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws and ear pain Gudrun, That's exactly what I go through every day. But I just call it "going down a rat hole" when I get dragged into all those ancillary activities. Dave Carlson Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gudrun Brunot" <gbrunot@centurylink.net> To: <jfw@groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 09:44 AM Subject: Re: Jaws and ear pain Sounds like a bummer of a problem, Tony. At the risk of seeming flippant, I'd suggest that, maybe, your body is taking care of you--we spend way too much time in front of our computers as it is,(myself included), and your system is telling you to get up and do something more physical, stretching, walking around, anything but sitting there. Typical scenario: "I'll just check my email." So, email leads to a link to check out, a file to download. File takes time. There is an ad that pops up and plays before you get to the contents. Next email is an offer from Amazon on those 64-gigabyte flash drives you think are so great... Link lands you on the toolbar, and you mutter in annoyance and try to scramble out of there. The tenth of your email message has a great mini tutorial on how to do something, and you simply can't pass up saving that in Word on your hard drive... Instead of ten minutes to check your email, an hour has gone by. Okay, you got the message, no need to go on... Have you tried breaking the JAWS time up? Two hours of jawsing, 3-hour break? Another two hours, Two hour break. Then, try JAWS again and see if it makes a difference. I know, often, there is something we need to complete, and we don't feel we have the time for such experimenting. Still, it's the only thing I could think of to try. Take care, Gudrun -----Original Message----- From: Tony Malykh [mailto:anton.malykh@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:24 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Jaws and ear pain Hi all. (This is my first message, so I beg your pardon if this group is not the right place for such a question). I am a new user of JAWS and I have a weird problem: my ears hurt when I try to use JAWS for longer than 3-4 hours a day. I am wondering if anyone has experienced anything like this and if there are any suggestions on how to solve or alleviate the problem? Here is my story in more details. Recently I developed some eyesight problems. I have taught myself to use JAWS, but quickly figured out, that after 3-4 hours of daily usage my ears start to hurt. I tried different voices - no difference, my ears start to hurt after about the same time no matter what the voice is. I tried male, female, human-like and synthesized voices - all alike. I tried voiceover on mac too, same result. The volume is set to minimum at which I can still recognize words, so it is not loud at all. I tried laptop speakers, external speakers, headphones - no difference. I have seen a few ear doctors, but none of them have any idea what's going on. I don't have any other ears problems, except for mild ear ringing, but that is due to teeth grinding during my sleep. I can listen to real human voices such as audiobooks or radio programs for the whole day (12 hours) without any pain. I am curious if anyone has experienced anything like this. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you Tony
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Re: Jaws and ear pain
Dave...
Gudrun,
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That's exactly what I go through every day. But I just call it "going down a rat hole" when I get dragged into all those ancillary activities. Dave Carlson Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
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From: "Gudrun Brunot" <gbrunot@centurylink.net> To: <jfw@groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 09:44 AM Subject: Re: Jaws and ear pain Sounds like a bummer of a problem, Tony. At the risk of seeming flippant, I'd suggest that, maybe, your body is taking care of you--we spend way too much time in front of our computers as it is,(myself included), and your system is telling you to get up and do something more physical, stretching, walking around, anything but sitting there. Typical scenario: "I'll just check my email." So, email leads to a link to check out, a file to download. File takes time. There is an ad that pops up and plays before you get to the contents. Next email is an offer from Amazon on those 64-gigabyte flash drives you think are so great... Link lands you on the toolbar, and you mutter in annoyance and try to scramble out of there. The tenth of your email message has a great mini tutorial on how to do something, and you simply can't pass up saving that in Word on your hard drive... Instead of ten minutes to check your email, an hour has gone by. Okay, you got the message, no need to go on... Have you tried breaking the JAWS time up? Two hours of jawsing, 3-hour break? Another two hours, Two hour break. Then, try JAWS again and see if it makes a difference. I know, often, there is something we need to complete, and we don't feel we have the time for such experimenting. Still, it's the only thing I could think of to try. Take care, Gudrun -----Original Message----- From: Tony Malykh [mailto:anton.malykh@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:24 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Jaws and ear pain Hi all. (This is my first message, so I beg your pardon if this group is not the right place for such a question). I am a new user of JAWS and I have a weird problem: my ears hurt when I try to use JAWS for longer than 3-4 hours a day. I am wondering if anyone has experienced anything like this and if there are any suggestions on how to solve or alleviate the problem? Here is my story in more details. Recently I developed some eyesight problems. I have taught myself to use JAWS, but quickly figured out, that after 3-4 hours of daily usage my ears start to hurt. I tried different voices - no difference, my ears start to hurt after about the same time no matter what the voice is. I tried male, female, human-like and synthesized voices - all alike. I tried voiceover on mac too, same result. The volume is set to minimum at which I can still recognize words, so it is not loud at all. I tried laptop speakers, external speakers, headphones - no difference. I have seen a few ear doctors, but none of them have any idea what's going on. I don't have any other ears problems, except for mild ear ringing, but that is due to teeth grinding during my sleep. I can listen to real human voices such as audiobooks or radio programs for the whole day (12 hours) without any pain. I am curious if anyone has experienced anything like this. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you Tony
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Re: Jaws and ear pain
Gudrun Brunot
Sounds like a bummer of a problem, Tony. At the risk of seeming flippant, I'd suggest that, maybe, your body is taking care of you--we spend way too much time in front of our computers as it is,(myself included), and your system is telling you to get up and do something more physical, stretching, walking around, anything but sitting there. Typical scenario: "I'll just check my email." So, email leads to a link to check out, a file to download. File takes time. There is an ad that pops up and plays before you get to the contents. Next email is an offer from Amazon on those 64-gigabyte flash drives you think are so great... Link lands you on the toolbar, and you mutter in annoyance and try to scramble out of there. The tenth of your email message has a great mini tutorial on how to do something, and you simply can't pass up saving that in Word on your hard drive... Instead of ten minutes to check your email, an hour has gone by. Okay, you got the message, no need to go on... Have you tried breaking the JAWS time up? Two hours of jawsing, 3-hour break? Another two hours, Two hour break. Then, try JAWS again and see if it makes a difference. I know, often, there is something we need to complete, and we don't feel we have the time for such experimenting. Still, it's the only thing I could think of to try.
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From: Tony Malykh [mailto:anton.malykh@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:24 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Jaws and ear pain Hi all. (This is my first message, so I beg your pardon if this group is not the right place for such a question). I am a new user of JAWS and I have a weird problem: my ears hurt when I try to use JAWS for longer than 3-4 hours a day. I am wondering if anyone has experienced anything like this and if there are any suggestions on how to solve or alleviate the problem? Here is my story in more details. Recently I developed some eyesight problems. I have taught myself to use JAWS, but quickly figured out, that after 3-4 hours of daily usage my ears start to hurt. I tried different voices - no difference, my ears start to hurt after about the same time no matter what the voice is. I tried male, female, human-like and synthesized voices - all alike. I tried voiceover on mac too, same result. The volume is set to minimum at which I can still recognize words, so it is not loud at all. I tried laptop speakers, external speakers, headphones - no difference. I have seen a few ear doctors, but none of them have any idea what's going on. I don't have any other ears problems, except for mild ear ringing, but that is due to teeth grinding during my sleep. I can listen to real human voices such as audiobooks or radio programs for the whole day (12 hours) without any pain. I am curious if anyone has experienced anything like this. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you Tony
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Re: firefox
Kimber Gardner
You have to have one designated as your default browser. I forget how
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to do that in firefox. There are some sites that just plain don't work with IE. For example, the other day I went to the apple site to download an update for iTunes. With IE I couldn't find the download button no matter how I searched. With firefox I found it with no trouble at all.
On 3/23/16, judith bron <jbron@optonline.net> wrote:
How do I make it my default browser? How do you work with both browsers --
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Re: Jaws and ear pain
Onwardbob
Hi Pat I agree wholeheartedly and second your comments.
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BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG
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From: Pat Seed [mailto:patatips@tbaytel.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 6:23 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws and ear pain Hi Tony, You said that you have recently developed some eye sight problems and that you have just taught yourself to use JAWS. All of that put together tells me that you are knew to hearing speech synthesizers. Additionally, you are needing to use allot of concentration to learn. I am thinking that the pain is just telling your body that you have had enough for a while, and need to take a break. It takes a person, sometimes, a while to build up the tolerance for listening to certain sounds or, in fact, being in a certain environment. Most people say that they have headaches trying to build up the tolerance. In your case, it is your ears. It is difficult, but try not to worry about it, and see if the situation clears. Give yourself the chance to get used to everything. I hope this helps. Blessings and All the Very Best, Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Logue" <bobcat11@shaw.ca> To: <jfw@groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:13 AM Subject: Re: Jaws and ear pain You probably use the default voice, (Eloquence). You can download other
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