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Re: Jaws and ear pain

Tony Malykh
 

Thank you all for quick reply!


Tony,

Did you wear the plastic split during the day? Is your split for the
upper teeth only?
I have a split too and I wear it during my sleep only. I am a heavy
grinder, and I was told that the split only protects the teeth, but
doesn't really reduce the amount of grinding. I tried to wear the
split while using JAWS, but it didn't seem to reduce my ear pain. I
was also referred to a neuromuscular dentist, who told me he can make
a really fancy split that would cover both upper and lower teeth and
prevent grinding completely, but that would cost me around 10000
dollars, so I haven't made up my mind yet.


Carolyn,

Good idea. I called Freedom Scientific, but unfortunately they didn't
have any suggestions. I'm sorry to hear about your tinnitus, it musdt
be so frustrating to live with it...


Gudrun,

I tried having more breaks during the day. I even tried splitting my
JAWS usage into 4 1-hour intervals with breaks in between, but that
doesn't seem to help. It seems like my ears are sensitive to the total
amount of time I listen to JAWS, and not the timing of the breaks in
between.




Tony

On 3/23/16, Robert Logue <bobcat11@shaw.ca> wrote:
Hi Tony. 'I'm sorry. I didn't read your whole story and gave you advice
you didn't need. You've already tried just about all I said.
I sincerely apologize.

Bob

On 3/22/2016 8:23 PM, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hi all.

(This is my first message, so I beg your pardon if this group is not
the right place for such a question).

I am a new user of JAWS and I have a weird problem: my ears hurt when
I try to use JAWS for longer than 3-4 hours a day. I am wondering if
anyone has experienced anything like this and if there are any
suggestions on how to solve or alleviate the problem?

Here is my story in more details. Recently I developed some eyesight
problems. I have taught myself to use JAWS, but quickly figured out,
that after 3-4 hours of daily usage my ears start to hurt. I tried
different voices - no difference, my ears start to hurt after about
the same time no matter what the voice is. I tried male, female,
human-like and synthesized voices - all alike. I tried voiceover on
mac too, same result. The volume is set to minimum at which I can
still recognize words, so it is not loud at all. I tried laptop
speakers, external speakers, headphones - no difference. I have seen a
few ear doctors, but none of them have any idea what's going on. I
don't have any other ears problems, except for mild ear ringing, but
that is due to teeth grinding during my sleep.
I can listen to real human voices such as audiobooks or radio
programs for the whole day (12 hours) without any pain.
I am curious if anyone has experienced anything like this. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you
Tony






Re: links

Drew Hunthausen
 

Thanks, will play around.

 

From: Vanna Song [mailto:truewise.8614@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 6:49 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: links

 

You might have to mess with the settings. Mine reds links just fine.    


Re: links

 

You might have to mess with the settings. Mine reds links just fine.    


links

Drew Hunthausen
 

Dear list,

I upgraded to jaws 17 a few days ago, and am just now realizing that it doesn’t read any links on web pages or in files. I can click on them just as links, but it doesn’t tell me that they are actually links. Is anyone else experiencing this? thanks

 

 


JAWS AND EAR PAIN

Sandra Streeter
 

Hi, Tony,
 
Have you tried earplugs? I like the ones that are spongy but not too soft, shaped like tiny cylinders (not like a cone); you squeeze one end down (I usually combine a rolling and squeezing motion) small enough to fit in your ear. What I like about them is that they only filter some sound--so, speech and other needed sounds are still available. I attended a Moody Blues concert a year and a half ago, and my mother, who had been used to hearing their mellower tunes when I played them through my bedroom door as a teen, asked why I was putting in earplugs, and I told her that they do have some very loud songs--especially the later ones; I gave her a fresh pair, and she was delighted with them; we got all the necessary sound without ultra-amplification from the speakers and such. The ones I got came from Amazon--I bought a lifetime supply, and carry one in every conceivable bag I take anywhere, to ward against the unplanned fire alarm, loud music, etc. I have both slight age-related hearing loss, and Asperger's-related sensitivity to certain levels of sound or pitches, so they are perfect, when I need them.
 
 
 
Sandra
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
The Little Prince

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Google sheets with Jaws 17

Lauren Snyder
 

Hi,

 

I am using Jaws 17, Windows 10 and I received a file that opened up in google sheets. Is there a way I can copy all the text and paste it into a Word or Notepad file or excel?

 

Please advise. Jaws can read it, but I can’t go from letter to letter.

 

 

 

Sincerely,

 

Lauren

 


Re: Jaws and ear pain

Robert Logue
 

Hi Tony. 'I'm sorry. I didn't read your whole story and gave you advice you didn't need. You've already tried just about all I said.
I sincerely apologize.

Bob

On 3/22/2016 8:23 PM, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hi all.

(This is my first message, so I beg your pardon if this group is not
the right place for such a question).

I am a new user of JAWS and I have a weird problem: my ears hurt when
I try to use JAWS for longer than 3-4 hours a day. I am wondering if
anyone has experienced anything like this and if there are any
suggestions on how to solve or alleviate the problem?

Here is my story in more details. Recently I developed some eyesight
problems. I have taught myself to use JAWS, but quickly figured out,
that after 3-4 hours of daily usage my ears start to hurt. I tried
different voices - no difference, my ears start to hurt after about
the same time no matter what the voice is. I tried male, female,
human-like and synthesized voices - all alike. I tried voiceover on
mac too, same result. The volume is set to minimum at which I can
still recognize words, so it is not loud at all. I tried laptop
speakers, external speakers, headphones - no difference. I have seen a
few ear doctors, but none of them have any idea what's going on. I
don't have any other ears problems, except for mild ear ringing, but
that is due to teeth grinding during my sleep.
I can listen to real human voices such as audiobooks or radio
programs for the whole day (12 hours) without any pain.
I am curious if anyone has experienced anything like this. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you
Tony


Re: firefox

 

Hi,

One way to do it is to go to your control panel. I think it is under programs. Scroll down to firefox and click on make default. You can also set it from the Fire Fox browser itself.    


Re: VLC Media Player

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Not impossible; I had an Eastwood once that wouldn’t play for money, marbles or chalk.  Try another title.

 

From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 2:09 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: VLC Media Player

 

Hi Ted,

 

I've tried everything debbie, yourself, & others have suggested, & I can't get a DVD to play.  I'm wondering that if by coincidence that the 2 DVD's I'm working with are defective in some way.  Thank you very much for re-posting your suggestions.

Take care.
Mike, Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 5:04 AM

Subject: Re: VLC Media Player

 

The Open menu under VLC should also do it.  You get there by either right clicking or using the Alt Key.  It gives you several options, one of which is disk.  Look at that menu, choose your options, if any, then Enter on the Disk button; it should take off.  You might also want to try the trick I mentioned yesterday, disabling disk menus, and going with the much simpler menu structure built into the program.  You might also take it out of default, and allow Windows to ask what you want to do with the disk.  That usually does it too.

 

Ted

 

From: Debbie April Yuille [mailto:debbiey1982@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:41 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: VLC Media Player

 

Hi Mike

 

You get VLC to play the DVD from the open with menu option in my computer/this PC once the DVD drive is selected. Now here is what I wrote to the list regarding getting DVD’s to play.

What you do is go to the menu bar and find playback. Activate that, then arrow down until you find the

title sub menu open that and click on the title that you want to play. Also, don’t forget to google “VLC Media Player for windows keyboard shortcuts”

 

HTH

Debbie

 

 

 

From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2016 10:16 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: VLC Media Player

 

Hi All,

 

Running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, VLC, & Jaws 16.  For the life of me I can't get a movie on DVD to play with VLc.  I've tried uninstalling VLC & reinstalling using the custom settings, & no go.  I've set VLC as the default player, & checked the defaults select all checkbox, but when choosing Play with VLc from the context menu I can't get the DVD to start.  Would y'all give me a swift kick as to how to get DVD's to play with VLC?  I know this topic was discussed the other day, & I thought I had saved the notes, but apparently not!  I've tried a new movie from Amazon & also 1 that had been burned for us, & I can't get either 1 to play.  Thanks much.

Take care.
Mike, Go Dodgers!


Re: VLC Media Player

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Ted,
 
I've tried everything debbie, yourself, & others have suggested, & I can't get a DVD to play.  I'm wondering that if by coincidence that the 2 DVD's I'm working with are defective in some way.  Thank you very much for re-posting your suggestions.
Take care.
Mike, Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 5:04 AM
Subject: Re: VLC Media Player

The Open menu under VLC should also do it.  You get there by either right clicking or using the Alt Key.  It gives you several options, one of which is disk.  Look at that menu, choose your options, if any, then Enter on the Disk button; it should take off.  You might also want to try the trick I mentioned yesterday, disabling disk menus, and going with the much simpler menu structure built into the program.  You might also take it out of default, and allow Windows to ask what you want to do with the disk.  That usually does it too.

 

Ted

 

From: Debbie April Yuille [mailto:debbiey1982@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:41 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: VLC Media Player

 

Hi Mike

 

You get VLC to play the DVD from the open with menu option in my computer/this PC once the DVD drive is selected. Now here is what I wrote to the list regarding getting DVD’s to play.

What you do is go to the menu bar and find playback. Activate that, then arrow down until you find the

title sub menu open that and click on the title that you want to play. Also, don’t forget to google “VLC Media Player for windows keyboard shortcuts”

 

HTH

Debbie

 

 

 

From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2016 10:16 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: VLC Media Player

 

Hi All,

 

Running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, VLC, & Jaws 16.  For the life of me I can't get a movie on DVD to play with VLc.  I've tried uninstalling VLC & reinstalling using the custom settings, & no go.  I've set VLC as the default player, & checked the defaults select all checkbox, but when choosing Play with VLc from the context menu I can't get the DVD to start.  Would y'all give me a swift kick as to how to get DVD's to play with VLC?  I know this topic was discussed the other day, & I thought I had saved the notes, but apparently not!  I've tried a new movie from Amazon & also 1 that had been burned for us, & I can't get either 1 to play.  Thanks much.

Take care.
Mike, Go Dodgers!


Re: Jaws and ear pain

Gudrun Brunot
 

Good analogy, David. I'm right down there with you.



Gudrun

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Carlson [mailto:dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:16 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and ear pain

Gudrun,

That's exactly what I go through every day. But I just call it "going down a rat hole" when I get dragged into all those ancillary activities.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gudrun Brunot" <gbrunot@centurylink.net>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 09:44 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws and ear pain


Sounds like a bummer of a problem, Tony. At the risk of seeming flippant,
I'd suggest that, maybe, your body is taking care of you--we spend way too
much time in front of our computers as it is,(myself included), and your
system is telling you to get up and do something more physical, stretching,
walking around, anything but sitting there. Typical scenario: "I'll just
check my email." So, email leads to a link to check out, a file to download.
File takes time. There is an ad that pops up and plays before you get to the
contents. Next email is an offer from Amazon on those 64-gigabyte flash
drives you think are so great... Link lands you on the toolbar, and you
mutter in annoyance and try to scramble out of there. The tenth of your
email message has a great mini tutorial on how to do something, and you
simply can't pass up saving that in Word on your hard drive... Instead of
ten minutes to check your email, an hour has gone by. Okay, you got the
message, no need to go on... Have you tried breaking the JAWS time up? Two
hours of jawsing, 3-hour break? Another two hours, Two hour break. Then, try
JAWS again and see if it makes a difference. I know, often, there is
something we need to complete, and we don't feel we have the time for such
experimenting. Still, it's the only thing I could think of to try.

Take care,



Gudrun

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Malykh [mailto:anton.malykh@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:24 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws and ear pain

Hi all.

(This is my first message, so I beg your pardon if this group is not the
right place for such a question).

I am a new user of JAWS and I have a weird problem: my ears hurt when I try
to use JAWS for longer than 3-4 hours a day. I am wondering if anyone has
experienced anything like this and if there are any suggestions on how to
solve or alleviate the problem?

Here is my story in more details. Recently I developed some eyesight
problems. I have taught myself to use JAWS, but quickly figured out, that
after 3-4 hours of daily usage my ears start to hurt. I tried different
voices - no difference, my ears start to hurt after about the same time no
matter what the voice is. I tried male, female, human-like and synthesized
voices - all alike. I tried voiceover on mac too, same result. The volume is
set to minimum at which I can still recognize words, so it is not loud at
all. I tried laptop speakers, external speakers, headphones - no difference.
I have seen a few ear doctors, but none of them have any idea what's going
on. I don't have any other ears problems, except for mild ear ringing, but
that is due to teeth grinding during my sleep.
I can listen to real human voices such as audiobooks or radio programs for
the whole day (12 hours) without any pain.
I am curious if anyone has experienced anything like this. Any suggestions
would be appreciated.

Thank you
Tony


Re: Jaws and ear pain

Dave...
 

Gudrun,

That's exactly what I go through every day. But I just call it "going down a
rat hole" when I get dragged into all those ancillary activities.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gudrun Brunot" <gbrunot@centurylink.net>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 09:44 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws and ear pain


Sounds like a bummer of a problem, Tony. At the risk of seeming flippant,
I'd suggest that, maybe, your body is taking care of you--we spend way too
much time in front of our computers as it is,(myself included), and your
system is telling you to get up and do something more physical, stretching,
walking around, anything but sitting there. Typical scenario: "I'll just
check my email." So, email leads to a link to check out, a file to download.
File takes time. There is an ad that pops up and plays before you get to the
contents. Next email is an offer from Amazon on those 64-gigabyte flash
drives you think are so great... Link lands you on the toolbar, and you
mutter in annoyance and try to scramble out of there. The tenth of your
email message has a great mini tutorial on how to do something, and you
simply can't pass up saving that in Word on your hard drive... Instead of
ten minutes to check your email, an hour has gone by. Okay, you got the
message, no need to go on... Have you tried breaking the JAWS time up? Two
hours of jawsing, 3-hour break? Another two hours, Two hour break. Then, try
JAWS again and see if it makes a difference. I know, often, there is
something we need to complete, and we don't feel we have the time for such
experimenting. Still, it's the only thing I could think of to try.

Take care,



Gudrun

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Malykh [mailto:anton.malykh@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:24 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws and ear pain

Hi all.

(This is my first message, so I beg your pardon if this group is not the
right place for such a question).

I am a new user of JAWS and I have a weird problem: my ears hurt when I try
to use JAWS for longer than 3-4 hours a day. I am wondering if anyone has
experienced anything like this and if there are any suggestions on how to
solve or alleviate the problem?

Here is my story in more details. Recently I developed some eyesight
problems. I have taught myself to use JAWS, but quickly figured out, that
after 3-4 hours of daily usage my ears start to hurt. I tried different
voices - no difference, my ears start to hurt after about the same time no
matter what the voice is. I tried male, female, human-like and synthesized
voices - all alike. I tried voiceover on mac too, same result. The volume is
set to minimum at which I can still recognize words, so it is not loud at
all. I tried laptop speakers, external speakers, headphones - no difference.
I have seen a few ear doctors, but none of them have any idea what's going
on. I don't have any other ears problems, except for mild ear ringing, but
that is due to teeth grinding during my sleep.
I can listen to real human voices such as audiobooks or radio programs for
the whole day (12 hours) without any pain.
I am curious if anyone has experienced anything like this. Any suggestions
would be appreciated.

Thank you
Tony


Re: Jaws and ear pain

Gudrun Brunot
 

Sounds like a bummer of a problem, Tony. At the risk of seeming flippant, I'd suggest that, maybe, your body is taking care of you--we spend way too much time in front of our computers as it is,(myself included), and your system is telling you to get up and do something more physical, stretching, walking around, anything but sitting there. Typical scenario: "I'll just check my email." So, email leads to a link to check out, a file to download. File takes time. There is an ad that pops up and plays before you get to the contents. Next email is an offer from Amazon on those 64-gigabyte flash drives you think are so great... Link lands you on the toolbar, and you mutter in annoyance and try to scramble out of there. The tenth of your email message has a great mini tutorial on how to do something, and you simply can't pass up saving that in Word on your hard drive... Instead of ten minutes to check your email, an hour has gone by. Okay, you got the message, no need to go on... Have you tried breaking the JAWS time up? Two hours of jawsing, 3-hour break? Another two hours, Two hour break. Then, try JAWS again and see if it makes a difference. I know, often, there is something we need to complete, and we don't feel we have the time for such experimenting. Still, it's the only thing I could think of to try.

Take care,



Gudrun

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Malykh [mailto:anton.malykh@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:24 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws and ear pain

Hi all.

(This is my first message, so I beg your pardon if this group is not the right place for such a question).

I am a new user of JAWS and I have a weird problem: my ears hurt when I try to use JAWS for longer than 3-4 hours a day. I am wondering if anyone has experienced anything like this and if there are any suggestions on how to solve or alleviate the problem?

Here is my story in more details. Recently I developed some eyesight problems. I have taught myself to use JAWS, but quickly figured out, that after 3-4 hours of daily usage my ears start to hurt. I tried different voices - no difference, my ears start to hurt after about the same time no matter what the voice is. I tried male, female, human-like and synthesized voices - all alike. I tried voiceover on mac too, same result. The volume is set to minimum at which I can still recognize words, so it is not loud at all. I tried laptop speakers, external speakers, headphones - no difference. I have seen a few ear doctors, but none of them have any idea what's going on. I don't have any other ears problems, except for mild ear ringing, but that is due to teeth grinding during my sleep.
I can listen to real human voices such as audiobooks or radio programs for the whole day (12 hours) without any pain.
I am curious if anyone has experienced anything like this. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you
Tony


Re: firefox

Kimber Gardner
 

You have to have one designated as your default browser. I forget how
to do that in firefox.

There are some sites that just plain don't work with IE. For example,
the other day I went to the apple site to download an update for
iTunes. With IE I couldn't find the download button no matter how I
searched. With firefox I found it with no trouble at all.

On 3/23/16, judith bron <jbron@optonline.net> wrote:
How do I make it my default browser? How do you work with both browsers
installed on your computer?



From: Vanna Song [mailto:truewise.8614@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 1:48 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox



I have found JAWS seems to work much smoother with FireFo. I only use
Internet Explorer as a back up browser. I have Chrome too for back up, and
seems a lot smoother than IE.



--
Kimberly


Re: Jaws and ear pain

Onwardbob
 

Hi Pat I agree wholeheartedly and second your comments.

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Seed [mailto:patatips@tbaytel.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 6:23 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and ear pain

Hi Tony,
You said that you have recently developed some eye sight problems and that you have just taught yourself to use JAWS. All of that put together tells me that you are knew to hearing speech synthesizers. Additionally, you are needing to use allot of concentration to learn. I am thinking that the pain is just telling your body that you have had enough for a while, and need to take a break. It takes a person, sometimes, a while to build up the tolerance for listening to certain sounds or, in fact, being in a certain environment. Most people say that they have headaches trying to build up the tolerance. In your case, it is your ears. It is difficult, but try not to worry about it, and see if the situation clears. Give yourself the chance to get used to everything. I hope this helps.
Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat


----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Logue" <bobcat11@shaw.ca>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws and ear pain


You probably use the default voice, (Eloquence). You can download other
voices from Freedom Scientific that may be more comfortable.

There does not appear to be a overall pitch adjustment in Eloquence which
sometimes helps with ear fatigue. Other voices may have pitch adjustment.

Also, lowering the volume helps me some times.

Other options would be to use different speakers, headphones, or even add
a second sound device. There are some low cost USB speakers that are both
powered by USB and have their own sound card.

Sometimes the sound of some speakers just doesn't suit Eloquence. If
possible, lower the bass and try different treble settings. You may have
equalizer settings in your sound card's control panel and or tone
controls on your speakers.


Finally. Sometimes you just need a break.

HTH.

Bob

On 3/22/2016 8:23 PM, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hi all.

(This is my first message, so I beg your pardon if this group is not
the right place for such a question).

I am a new user of JAWS and I have a weird problem: my ears hurt when
I try to use JAWS for longer than 3-4 hours a day. I am wondering if
anyone has experienced anything like this and if there are any
suggestions on how to solve or alleviate the problem?

Here is my story in more details. Recently I developed some eyesight
problems. I have taught myself to use JAWS, but quickly figured out,
that after 3-4 hours of daily usage my ears start to hurt. I tried
different voices - no difference, my ears start to hurt after about
the same time no matter what the voice is. I tried male, female,
human-like and synthesized voices - all alike. I tried voiceover on
mac too, same result. The volume is set to minimum at which I can
still recognize words, so it is not loud at all. I tried laptop
speakers, external speakers, headphones - no difference. I have seen a
few ear doctors, but none of them have any idea what's going on. I
don't have any other ears problems, except for mild ear ringing, but
that is due to teeth grinding during my sleep.
I can listen to real human voices such as audiobooks or radio
programs for the whole day (12 hours) without any pain.
I am curious if anyone has experienced anything like this. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you
Tony





Re: firefox

judith bron
 

How do I make it my default browser?  How do you work with both browsers installed on your computer? 

 

From: Vanna Song [mailto:truewise.8614@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 1:48 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox

 

I have found JAWS seems to work much smoother with FireFo. I only use Internet Explorer as a back up browser. I have Chrome too for back up, and seems a lot smoother than IE.        


Re: Jaws and ear pain

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I have used screen readers since about 1990. I have constant ear ringing, ongoing, relentless, ceaseless. With my current hearing aids, the tinnitus is reduced. As for JAWS, I have not found any specific problem with continuous use of it. Have you called Freedom Scientific, asked them if they'd ever heard of this problem in the past and if they could offer any solutions?

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Malykh [mailto:anton.malykh@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 10:24 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws and ear pain

Hi all.

(This is my first message, so I beg your pardon if this group is not the right place for such a question).

I am a new user of JAWS and I have a weird problem: my ears hurt when I try to use JAWS for longer than 3-4 hours a day. I am wondering if anyone has experienced anything like this and if there are any suggestions on how to solve or alleviate the problem?

Here is my story in more details. Recently I developed some eyesight problems. I have taught myself to use JAWS, but quickly figured out, that after 3-4 hours of daily usage my ears start to hurt. I tried different voices - no difference, my ears start to hurt after about the same time no matter what the voice is. I tried male, female, human-like and synthesized voices - all alike. I tried voiceover on mac too, same result. The volume is set to minimum at which I can still recognize words, so it is not loud at all. I tried laptop speakers, external speakers, headphones - no difference. I have seen a few ear doctors, but none of them have any idea what's going on. I don't have any other ears problems, except for mild ear ringing, but that is due to teeth grinding during my sleep.
I can listen to real human voices such as audiobooks or radio programs for the whole day (12 hours) without any pain.
I am curious if anyone has experienced anything like this. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you
Tony


Re: VLC Media Player

Bissett, Tom <tom.bissett@...>
 

Mine is intermittent.  Some thimes I can get it to play and other times I just can’t get it to go.  When I open the menu and arrow down to the play pause it will show that it is playing but no sound.  I tried playing with the mute but the doesn’t seem to help either. 

I will try the steps layed out here and see if I can get it to go.

Tom Bisset

 

From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 12:01 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: VLC Media Player

 

Hi Debbie,

 

Thank you so very much!  I'll give these steps a whirl.  I can't tell you how many things I've tried, but in the Playback menu it says program unavailable, & in the Audio menu, it says audion unvailable as well.  I've tried clicking on, Titles, Chapters, & only Lord knows what else, & can't get anything to play.  Thanks again, it's greatly appreciated.

Take care.
Mike, Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 8:41 PM

Subject: Re: VLC Media Player

 

Hi Mike

 

You get VLC to play the DVD from the open with menu option in my computer/this PC once the DVD drive is selected. Now here is what I wrote to the list regarding getting DVD’s to play.

What you do is go to the menu bar and find playback. Activate that, then arrow down until you find the

title sub menu open that and click on the title that you want to play. Also, don’t forget to google “VLC Media Player for windows keyboard shortcuts”

 

HTH

Debbie

 

 

 

From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2016 10:16 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: VLC Media Player

 

Hi All,

 

Running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, VLC, & Jaws 16.  For the life of me I can't get a movie on DVD to play with VLc.  I've tried uninstalling VLC & reinstalling using the custom settings, & no go.  I've set VLC as the default player, & checked the defaults select all checkbox, but when choosing Play with VLc from the context menu I can't get the DVD to start.  Would y'all give me a swift kick as to how to get DVD's to play with VLC?  I know this topic was discussed the other day, & I thought I had saved the notes, but apparently not!  I've tried a new movie from Amazon & also 1 that had been burned for us, & I can't get either 1 to play.  Thanks much.

Take care.
Mike, Go Dodgers!


Re: Jaws and ear pain

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Neat idea; wish I'd thought of it. By the way, pitch is adjustable in Eloquence, as long as you adjust one voice at a time.

Ted (KD4EXK)

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard B. McDonald [mailto:richardbmcdonald@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:21 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and ear pain

Hi Tony!

This is a far-out suggestion, and I draw it from the world of ham radio. Hams are expert on frequencies, filters, sub-audible tones, harmonics and everything to do with the generation of sound. You might want to contact the ham radio club in your local area, go to one of their meetings and explain your problem. As a ham myself, I can assure you that you would be warmly welcomed whether or not you are a ham. Many hams are retired computer, electrical and radio engineers. They *love* tinkering and building contraptions. They would relish grappling with your problem. FYI, I am going to forward your message below to the "blind ham user group" to see if anyone has encountered your problem. If I get any meaningful response, I will forward such back to you on this list.

HTH,
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Malykh [mailto:anton.malykh@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:24 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws and ear pain

Hi all.

(This is my first message, so I beg your pardon if this group is not the right place for such a question).

I am a new user of JAWS and I have a weird problem: my ears hurt when I try to use JAWS for longer than 3-4 hours a day. I am wondering if anyone has experienced anything like this and if there are any suggestions on how to solve or alleviate the problem?


Here is my story in more details. Recently I developed some eyesight problems. I have taught myself to use JAWS, but quickly figured out, that after 3-4 hours of daily usage my ears start to hurt. I tried different voices - no difference, my ears start to hurt after about the same time no matter what the voice is. I tried male, female, human-like and synthesized voices - all alike. I tried voiceover on mac too, same result. The volume is set to minimum at which I can still recognize words, so it is not loud at all. I tried laptop speakers, external speakers, headphones - no difference. I have seen a few ear doctors, but none of them have any idea what's going on. I don't have any other ears problems, except for mild ear ringing, but that is due to teeth grinding during my sleep.
I can listen to real human voices such as audiobooks or radio programs for the whole day (12 hours) without any pain.
I am curious if anyone has experienced anything like this. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you
Tony


Re: Jaws and ear pain

cecropia64
 

Hi Richard:

I know this is not the list for this but I'd like some info from you. Could you please email the info for the blind ham list? I'm very interested in maybe getting started and think this would help..
My email is: cecropia64@att.net.
Thanks

On 3/23/2016 9:20 AM, Richard B. McDonald wrote:
Hi Tony!

This is a far-out suggestion, and I draw it from the world of ham radio. Hams are expert on frequencies, filters, sub-audible tones, harmonics and everything to do with the generation of sound. You might want to contact the ham radio club in your local area, go to one of their meetings and explain your problem. As a ham myself, I can assure you that you would be warmly welcomed whether or not you are a ham. Many hams are retired computer, electrical and radio engineers. They *love* tinkering and building contraptions. They would relish grappling with your problem. FYI, I am going to forward your message below to the "blind ham user group" to see if anyone has encountered your problem. If I get any meaningful response, I will forward such back to you on this list.

HTH,
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Malykh [mailto:anton.malykh@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:24 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws and ear pain

Hi all.

(This is my first message, so I beg your pardon if this group is not the right place for such a question).

I am a new user of JAWS and I have a weird problem: my ears hurt when I try to use JAWS for longer than 3-4 hours a day. I am wondering if anyone has experienced anything like this and if there are any suggestions on how to solve or alleviate the problem?

Here is my story in more details. Recently I developed some eyesight problems. I have taught myself to use JAWS, but quickly figured out, that after 3-4 hours of daily usage my ears start to hurt. I tried different voices - no difference, my ears start to hurt after about the same time no matter what the voice is. I tried male, female, human-like and synthesized voices - all alike. I tried voiceover on mac too, same result. The volume is set to minimum at which I can still recognize words, so it is not loud at all. I tried laptop speakers, external speakers, headphones - no difference. I have seen a few ear doctors, but none of them have any idea what's going on. I don't have any other ears problems, except for mild ear ringing, but that is due to teeth grinding during my sleep.
I can listen to real human voices such as audiobooks or radio programs for the whole day (12 hours) without any pain.
I am curious if anyone has experienced anything like this. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you
Tony