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Re: firefox

Kimber Gardner
 

You have to have one designated as your default browser. I forget how
to do that in firefox.

There are some sites that just plain don't work with IE. For example,
the other day I went to the apple site to download an update for
iTunes. With IE I couldn't find the download button no matter how I
searched. With firefox I found it with no trouble at all.

On 3/23/16, judith bron <jbron@optonline.net> wrote:
How do I make it my default browser? How do you work with both browsers
installed on your computer?



From: Vanna Song [mailto:truewise.8614@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 1:48 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox



I have found JAWS seems to work much smoother with FireFo. I only use
Internet Explorer as a back up browser. I have Chrome too for back up, and
seems a lot smoother than IE.



--
Kimberly
Re: Jaws and ear pain

Onwardbob
 

Hi Pat I agree wholeheartedly and second your comments.

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG

-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Seed [mailto:patatips@tbaytel.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 6:23 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and ear pain

Hi Tony,
You said that you have recently developed some eye sight problems and that you have just taught yourself to use JAWS. All of that put together tells me that you are knew to hearing speech synthesizers. Additionally, you are needing to use allot of concentration to learn. I am thinking that the pain is just telling your body that you have had enough for a while, and need to take a break. It takes a person, sometimes, a while to build up the tolerance for listening to certain sounds or, in fact, being in a certain environment. Most people say that they have headaches trying to build up the tolerance. In your case, it is your ears. It is difficult, but try not to worry about it, and see if the situation clears. Give yourself the chance to get used to everything. I hope this helps.
Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat


----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Logue" <bobcat11@shaw.ca>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws and ear pain


You probably use the default voice, (Eloquence). You can download other
voices from Freedom Scientific that may be more comfortable.

There does not appear to be a overall pitch adjustment in Eloquence which
sometimes helps with ear fatigue. Other voices may have pitch adjustment.

Also, lowering the volume helps me some times.

Other options would be to use different speakers, headphones, or even add
a second sound device. There are some low cost USB speakers that are both
powered by USB and have their own sound card.

Sometimes the sound of some speakers just doesn't suit Eloquence. If
possible, lower the bass and try different treble settings. You may have
equalizer settings in your sound card's control panel and or tone
controls on your speakers.


Finally. Sometimes you just need a break.

HTH.

Bob

On 3/22/2016 8:23 PM, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hi all.

(This is my first message, so I beg your pardon if this group is not
the right place for such a question).

I am a new user of JAWS and I have a weird problem: my ears hurt when
I try to use JAWS for longer than 3-4 hours a day. I am wondering if
anyone has experienced anything like this and if there are any
suggestions on how to solve or alleviate the problem?

Here is my story in more details. Recently I developed some eyesight
problems. I have taught myself to use JAWS, but quickly figured out,
that after 3-4 hours of daily usage my ears start to hurt. I tried
different voices - no difference, my ears start to hurt after about
the same time no matter what the voice is. I tried male, female,
human-like and synthesized voices - all alike. I tried voiceover on
mac too, same result. The volume is set to minimum at which I can
still recognize words, so it is not loud at all. I tried laptop
speakers, external speakers, headphones - no difference. I have seen a
few ear doctors, but none of them have any idea what's going on. I
don't have any other ears problems, except for mild ear ringing, but
that is due to teeth grinding during my sleep.
I can listen to real human voices such as audiobooks or radio
programs for the whole day (12 hours) without any pain.
I am curious if anyone has experienced anything like this. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you
Tony
Re: firefox

judith bron
 

How do I make it my default browser?  How do you work with both browsers installed on your computer? 

 

From: Vanna Song [mailto:truewise.8614@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 1:48 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: firefox

 

I have found JAWS seems to work much smoother with FireFo. I only use Internet Explorer as a back up browser. I have Chrome too for back up, and seems a lot smoother than IE.        
Re: Jaws and ear pain

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I have used screen readers since about 1990. I have constant ear ringing, ongoing, relentless, ceaseless. With my current hearing aids, the tinnitus is reduced. As for JAWS, I have not found any specific problem with continuous use of it. Have you called Freedom Scientific, asked them if they'd ever heard of this problem in the past and if they could offer any solutions?

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Malykh [mailto:anton.malykh@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 10:24 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws and ear pain

Hi all.

(This is my first message, so I beg your pardon if this group is not the right place for such a question).

I am a new user of JAWS and I have a weird problem: my ears hurt when I try to use JAWS for longer than 3-4 hours a day. I am wondering if anyone has experienced anything like this and if there are any suggestions on how to solve or alleviate the problem?

Here is my story in more details. Recently I developed some eyesight problems. I have taught myself to use JAWS, but quickly figured out, that after 3-4 hours of daily usage my ears start to hurt. I tried different voices - no difference, my ears start to hurt after about the same time no matter what the voice is. I tried male, female, human-like and synthesized voices - all alike. I tried voiceover on mac too, same result. The volume is set to minimum at which I can still recognize words, so it is not loud at all. I tried laptop speakers, external speakers, headphones - no difference. I have seen a few ear doctors, but none of them have any idea what's going on. I don't have any other ears problems, except for mild ear ringing, but that is due to teeth grinding during my sleep.
I can listen to real human voices such as audiobooks or radio programs for the whole day (12 hours) without any pain.
I am curious if anyone has experienced anything like this. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you
Tony
Re: VLC Media Player

Bissett, Tom <tom.bissett@...>
 

Mine is intermittent.  Some thimes I can get it to play and other times I just can’t get it to go.  When I open the menu and arrow down to the play pause it will show that it is playing but no sound.  I tried playing with the mute but the doesn’t seem to help either. 

I will try the steps layed out here and see if I can get it to go.

Tom Bisset

 

From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 12:01 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: VLC Media Player

 

Hi Debbie,

 

Thank you so very much!  I'll give these steps a whirl.  I can't tell you how many things I've tried, but in the Playback menu it says program unavailable, & in the Audio menu, it says audion unvailable as well.  I've tried clicking on, Titles, Chapters, & only Lord knows what else, & can't get anything to play.  Thanks again, it's greatly appreciated.

Take care.
Mike, Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 8:41 PM

Subject: Re: VLC Media Player

 

Hi Mike

 

You get VLC to play the DVD from the open with menu option in my computer/this PC once the DVD drive is selected. Now here is what I wrote to the list regarding getting DVD’s to play.

What you do is go to the menu bar and find playback. Activate that, then arrow down until you find the

title sub menu open that and click on the title that you want to play. Also, don’t forget to google “VLC Media Player for windows keyboard shortcuts”

 

HTH

Debbie

 

 

 

From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2016 10:16 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: VLC Media Player

 

Hi All,

 

Running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, VLC, & Jaws 16.  For the life of me I can't get a movie on DVD to play with VLc.  I've tried uninstalling VLC & reinstalling using the custom settings, & no go.  I've set VLC as the default player, & checked the defaults select all checkbox, but when choosing Play with VLc from the context menu I can't get the DVD to start.  Would y'all give me a swift kick as to how to get DVD's to play with VLC?  I know this topic was discussed the other day, & I thought I had saved the notes, but apparently not!  I've tried a new movie from Amazon & also 1 that had been burned for us, & I can't get either 1 to play.  Thanks much.

Take care.
Mike, Go Dodgers!
Re: Jaws and ear pain

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Neat idea; wish I'd thought of it. By the way, pitch is adjustable in Eloquence, as long as you adjust one voice at a time.

Ted (KD4EXK)

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard B. McDonald [mailto:richardbmcdonald@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:21 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and ear pain

Hi Tony!

This is a far-out suggestion, and I draw it from the world of ham radio. Hams are expert on frequencies, filters, sub-audible tones, harmonics and everything to do with the generation of sound. You might want to contact the ham radio club in your local area, go to one of their meetings and explain your problem. As a ham myself, I can assure you that you would be warmly welcomed whether or not you are a ham. Many hams are retired computer, electrical and radio engineers. They *love* tinkering and building contraptions. They would relish grappling with your problem. FYI, I am going to forward your message below to the "blind ham user group" to see if anyone has encountered your problem. If I get any meaningful response, I will forward such back to you on this list.

HTH,
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Malykh [mailto:anton.malykh@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:24 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws and ear pain

Hi all.

(This is my first message, so I beg your pardon if this group is not the right place for such a question).

I am a new user of JAWS and I have a weird problem: my ears hurt when I try to use JAWS for longer than 3-4 hours a day. I am wondering if anyone has experienced anything like this and if there are any suggestions on how to solve or alleviate the problem?


Here is my story in more details. Recently I developed some eyesight problems. I have taught myself to use JAWS, but quickly figured out, that after 3-4 hours of daily usage my ears start to hurt. I tried different voices - no difference, my ears start to hurt after about the same time no matter what the voice is. I tried male, female, human-like and synthesized voices - all alike. I tried voiceover on mac too, same result. The volume is set to minimum at which I can still recognize words, so it is not loud at all. I tried laptop speakers, external speakers, headphones - no difference. I have seen a few ear doctors, but none of them have any idea what's going on. I don't have any other ears problems, except for mild ear ringing, but that is due to teeth grinding during my sleep.
I can listen to real human voices such as audiobooks or radio programs for the whole day (12 hours) without any pain.
I am curious if anyone has experienced anything like this. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you
Tony
Re: Jaws and ear pain

cecropia64
 

Hi Richard:

I know this is not the list for this but I'd like some info from you. Could you please email the info for the blind ham list? I'm very interested in maybe getting started and think this would help..
My email is: cecropia64@att.net.
Thanks

On 3/23/2016 9:20 AM, Richard B. McDonald wrote:
Hi Tony!

This is a far-out suggestion, and I draw it from the world of ham radio. Hams are expert on frequencies, filters, sub-audible tones, harmonics and everything to do with the generation of sound. You might want to contact the ham radio club in your local area, go to one of their meetings and explain your problem. As a ham myself, I can assure you that you would be warmly welcomed whether or not you are a ham. Many hams are retired computer, electrical and radio engineers. They *love* tinkering and building contraptions. They would relish grappling with your problem. FYI, I am going to forward your message below to the "blind ham user group" to see if anyone has encountered your problem. If I get any meaningful response, I will forward such back to you on this list.

HTH,
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Malykh [mailto:anton.malykh@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:24 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws and ear pain

Hi all.

(This is my first message, so I beg your pardon if this group is not the right place for such a question).

I am a new user of JAWS and I have a weird problem: my ears hurt when I try to use JAWS for longer than 3-4 hours a day. I am wondering if anyone has experienced anything like this and if there are any suggestions on how to solve or alleviate the problem?

Here is my story in more details. Recently I developed some eyesight problems. I have taught myself to use JAWS, but quickly figured out, that after 3-4 hours of daily usage my ears start to hurt. I tried different voices - no difference, my ears start to hurt after about the same time no matter what the voice is. I tried male, female, human-like and synthesized voices - all alike. I tried voiceover on mac too, same result. The volume is set to minimum at which I can still recognize words, so it is not loud at all. I tried laptop speakers, external speakers, headphones - no difference. I have seen a few ear doctors, but none of them have any idea what's going on. I don't have any other ears problems, except for mild ear ringing, but that is due to teeth grinding during my sleep.
I can listen to real human voices such as audiobooks or radio programs for the whole day (12 hours) without any pain.
I am curious if anyone has experienced anything like this. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you
Tony
Re: Jaws and ear pain

Pat Seed
 

Hi Tony,
You said that you have recently developed some eye sight problems and that you have just taught yourself to use JAWS. All of that put together tells me that you are knew to hearing speech synthesizers. Additionally, you are needing to use allot of concentration to learn. I am thinking that the pain is just telling your body that you have had enough for a while, and need to take a break. It takes a person, sometimes, a while to build up the tolerance for listening to certain sounds or, in fact, being in a certain environment. Most people say that they have headaches trying to build up the tolerance. In your case, it is your ears. It is difficult, but try not to worry about it, and see if the situation clears. Give yourself the chance to get used to everything. I hope this helps.
Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Logue" <bobcat11@shaw.ca>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws and ear pain


You probably use the default voice, (Eloquence). You can download other voices from Freedom Scientific that may be more comfortable.

There does not appear to be a overall pitch adjustment in Eloquence which sometimes helps with ear fatigue. Other voices may have pitch adjustment.

Also, lowering the volume helps me some times.

Other options would be to use different speakers, headphones, or even add a second sound device. There are some low cost USB speakers that are both powered by USB and have their own sound card.

Sometimes the sound of some speakers just doesn't suit Eloquence. If possible, lower the bass and try different treble settings. You may have equalizer settings in your sound card's control panel and or tone controls on your speakers.


Finally. Sometimes you just need a break.

HTH.

Bob

On 3/22/2016 8:23 PM, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hi all.

(This is my first message, so I beg your pardon if this group is not
the right place for such a question).

I am a new user of JAWS and I have a weird problem: my ears hurt when
I try to use JAWS for longer than 3-4 hours a day. I am wondering if
anyone has experienced anything like this and if there are any
suggestions on how to solve or alleviate the problem?

Here is my story in more details. Recently I developed some eyesight
problems. I have taught myself to use JAWS, but quickly figured out,
that after 3-4 hours of daily usage my ears start to hurt. I tried
different voices - no difference, my ears start to hurt after about
the same time no matter what the voice is. I tried male, female,
human-like and synthesized voices - all alike. I tried voiceover on
mac too, same result. The volume is set to minimum at which I can
still recognize words, so it is not loud at all. I tried laptop
speakers, external speakers, headphones - no difference. I have seen a
few ear doctors, but none of them have any idea what's going on. I
don't have any other ears problems, except for mild ear ringing, but
that is due to teeth grinding during my sleep.
I can listen to real human voices such as audiobooks or radio
programs for the whole day (12 hours) without any pain.
I am curious if anyone has experienced anything like this. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you
Tony
Re: Jaws and ear pain

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Tony!

This is a far-out suggestion, and I draw it from the world of ham radio. Hams are expert on frequencies, filters, sub-audible tones, harmonics and everything to do with the generation of sound. You might want to contact the ham radio club in your local area, go to one of their meetings and explain your problem. As a ham myself, I can assure you that you would be warmly welcomed whether or not you are a ham. Many hams are retired computer, electrical and radio engineers. They *love* tinkering and building contraptions. They would relish grappling with your problem. FYI, I am going to forward your message below to the "blind ham user group" to see if anyone has encountered your problem. If I get any meaningful response, I will forward such back to you on this list.

HTH,
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Malykh [mailto:anton.malykh@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:24 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws and ear pain

Hi all.

(This is my first message, so I beg your pardon if this group is not the right place for such a question).

I am a new user of JAWS and I have a weird problem: my ears hurt when I try to use JAWS for longer than 3-4 hours a day. I am wondering if anyone has experienced anything like this and if there are any suggestions on how to solve or alleviate the problem?

Here is my story in more details. Recently I developed some eyesight problems. I have taught myself to use JAWS, but quickly figured out, that after 3-4 hours of daily usage my ears start to hurt. I tried different voices - no difference, my ears start to hurt after about the same time no matter what the voice is. I tried male, female, human-like and synthesized voices - all alike. I tried voiceover on mac too, same result. The volume is set to minimum at which I can still recognize words, so it is not loud at all. I tried laptop speakers, external speakers, headphones - no difference. I have seen a few ear doctors, but none of them have any idea what's going on. I don't have any other ears problems, except for mild ear ringing, but that is due to teeth grinding during my sleep.
I can listen to real human voices such as audiobooks or radio programs for the whole day (12 hours) without any pain.
I am curious if anyone has experienced anything like this. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you
Tony
Re: Jaws and ear pain

Robert Logue
 

You probably use the default voice, (Eloquence). You can download other voices from Freedom Scientific that may be more comfortable.

There does not appear to be a overall pitch adjustment in Eloquence which sometimes helps with ear fatigue. Other voices may have pitch adjustment.

Also, lowering the volume helps me some times.

Other options would be to use different speakers, headphones, or even add a second sound device. There are some low cost USB speakers that are both powered by USB and have their own sound card.

Sometimes the sound of some speakers just doesn't suit Eloquence. If possible, lower the bass and try different treble settings. You may have equalizer settings in your sound card's control panel and or tone controls on your speakers.


Finally. Sometimes you just need a break.

HTH.

Bob

On 3/22/2016 8:23 PM, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hi all.

(This is my first message, so I beg your pardon if this group is not
the right place for such a question).

I am a new user of JAWS and I have a weird problem: my ears hurt when
I try to use JAWS for longer than 3-4 hours a day. I am wondering if
anyone has experienced anything like this and if there are any
suggestions on how to solve or alleviate the problem?

Here is my story in more details. Recently I developed some eyesight
problems. I have taught myself to use JAWS, but quickly figured out,
that after 3-4 hours of daily usage my ears start to hurt. I tried
different voices - no difference, my ears start to hurt after about
the same time no matter what the voice is. I tried male, female,
human-like and synthesized voices - all alike. I tried voiceover on
mac too, same result. The volume is set to minimum at which I can
still recognize words, so it is not loud at all. I tried laptop
speakers, external speakers, headphones - no difference. I have seen a
few ear doctors, but none of them have any idea what's going on. I
don't have any other ears problems, except for mild ear ringing, but
that is due to teeth grinding during my sleep.
I can listen to real human voices such as audiobooks or radio
programs for the whole day (12 hours) without any pain.
I am curious if anyone has experienced anything like this. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you
Tony
Re: VLC Media Player

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

The Open menu under VLC should also do it.  You get there by either right clicking or using the Alt Key.  It gives you several options, one of which is disk.  Look at that menu, choose your options, if any, then Enter on the Disk button; it should take off.  You might also want to try the trick I mentioned yesterday, disabling disk menus, and going with the much simpler menu structure built into the program.  You might also take it out of default, and allow Windows to ask what you want to do with the disk.  That usually does it too.

 

Ted

 

From: Debbie April Yuille [mailto:debbiey1982@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:41 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: VLC Media Player

 

Hi Mike

 

You get VLC to play the DVD from the open with menu option in my computer/this PC once the DVD drive is selected. Now here is what I wrote to the list regarding getting DVD’s to play.

What you do is go to the menu bar and find playback. Activate that, then arrow down until you find the

title sub menu open that and click on the title that you want to play. Also, don’t forget to google “VLC Media Player for windows keyboard shortcuts”

 

HTH

Debbie

 

 

 

From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2016 10:16 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: VLC Media Player

 

Hi All,

 

Running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, VLC, & Jaws 16.  For the life of me I can't get a movie on DVD to play with VLc.  I've tried uninstalling VLC & reinstalling using the custom settings, & no go.  I've set VLC as the default player, & checked the defaults select all checkbox, but when choosing Play with VLc from the context menu I can't get the DVD to start.  Would y'all give me a swift kick as to how to get DVD's to play with VLC?  I know this topic was discussed the other day, & I thought I had saved the notes, but apparently not!  I've tried a new movie from Amazon & also 1 that had been burned for us, & I can't get either 1 to play.  Thanks much.

Take care.
Mike, Go Dodgers!
Re: firefox

Vanna Song
 

I have found JAWS seems to work much smoother with FireFo. I only use Internet Explorer as a back up browser. I have Chrome too for back up, and seems a lot smoother than IE.        
Re: firefox

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

I’m thinking that is a subjective question.

 

I’m sure you will get several answers so here’s mine.

 

I use both, IE and firefox but not chrome.  Never really cared for chrome honestly.  Firefox, I just use it for the capcha which is free and I’m aware of the rumola thing but I’m cheap.  Internet explorer has what brought me to the dance so I will say for me at least jaws works well.

 

From: judith bron [mailto:jbron@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 2:12 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: firefox

 

I have Firefox installed on my computer.  Is it better with jaws for internet access than chrome?  Judith
Re: Jaws and ear pain

Tony
 

You have already tried most of the things I was going to suggest.

One thing does come to mind.

You might be suffering from a TMJ problem. That is the joint at the back of your jaws. With your teeth grinding and with the extra concentration you probably experience when using computer speech the muscle at the back of the jaw can tighten up. Being as close to the ears as the TMJ is it might be worth having this checked. A dentist can probably determine if that is your problem.

When I was in law school about 20 years ago and really having to use computer speech my dentist told me that I have "world class jaw muscles." I had to wear a plastic splint between my upper and lower teeth at night to allow the TMJ to relax so that it didn't bother me during the day.

I quit wearing the splint shortly after law school and only have the jaw problem occasionally now even though I use computer speech more than ever.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Malykh [mailto:anton.malykh@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:24 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws and ear pain

Hi all.

(This is my first message, so I beg your pardon if this group is not the right place for such a question).

I am a new user of JAWS and I have a weird problem: my ears hurt when I try to use JAWS for longer than 3-4 hours a day. I am wondering if anyone has experienced anything like this and if there are any suggestions on how to solve or alleviate the problem?

Here is my story in more details. Recently I developed some eyesight problems. I have taught myself to use JAWS, but quickly figured out, that after 3-4 hours of daily usage my ears start to hurt. I tried different voices - no difference, my ears start to hurt after about the same time no matter what the voice is. I tried male, female, human-like and synthesized voices - all alike. I tried voiceover on mac too, same result. The volume is set to minimum at which I can still recognize words, so it is not loud at all. I tried laptop speakers, external speakers, headphones - no difference. I have seen a few ear doctors, but none of them have any idea what's going on. I don't have any other ears problems, except for mild ear ringing, but that is due to teeth grinding during my sleep.
I can listen to real human voices such as audiobooks or radio programs for the whole day (12 hours) without any pain.
I am curious if anyone has experienced anything like this. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you
Tony
Jaws and ear pain

Tony Malykh
 

Hi all.

(This is my first message, so I beg your pardon if this group is not
the right place for such a question).

I am a new user of JAWS and I have a weird problem: my ears hurt when
I try to use JAWS for longer than 3-4 hours a day. I am wondering if
anyone has experienced anything like this and if there are any
suggestions on how to solve or alleviate the problem?

Here is my story in more details. Recently I developed some eyesight
problems. I have taught myself to use JAWS, but quickly figured out,
that after 3-4 hours of daily usage my ears start to hurt. I tried
different voices - no difference, my ears start to hurt after about
the same time no matter what the voice is. I tried male, female,
human-like and synthesized voices - all alike. I tried voiceover on
mac too, same result. The volume is set to minimum at which I can
still recognize words, so it is not loud at all. I tried laptop
speakers, external speakers, headphones - no difference. I have seen a
few ear doctors, but none of them have any idea what's going on. I
don't have any other ears problems, except for mild ear ringing, but
that is due to teeth grinding during my sleep.
I can listen to real human voices such as audiobooks or radio
programs for the whole day (12 hours) without any pain.
I am curious if anyone has experienced anything like this. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you
Tony
Re: VLC Media Player

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Debbie,
 
Thank you so very much!  I'll give these steps a whirl.  I can't tell you how many things I've tried, but in the Playback menu it says program unavailable, & in the Audio menu, it says audion unvailable as well.  I've tried clicking on, Titles, Chapters, & only Lord knows what else, & can't get anything to play.  Thanks again, it's greatly appreciated.
Take care.
Mike, Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: VLC Media Player

Hi Mike

 

You get VLC to play the DVD from the open with menu option in my computer/this PC once the DVD drive is selected. Now here is what I wrote to the list regarding getting DVD’s to play.

What you do is go to the menu bar and find playback. Activate that, then arrow down until you find the

title sub menu open that and click on the title that you want to play. Also, don’t forget to google “VLC Media Player for windows keyboard shortcuts”

 

HTH

Debbie

 

 

 

From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2016 10:16 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: VLC Media Player

 

Hi All,

 

Running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, VLC, & Jaws 16.  For the life of me I can't get a movie on DVD to play with VLc.  I've tried uninstalling VLC & reinstalling using the custom settings, & no go.  I've set VLC as the default player, & checked the defaults select all checkbox, but when choosing Play with VLc from the context menu I can't get the DVD to start.  Would y'all give me a swift kick as to how to get DVD's to play with VLC?  I know this topic was discussed the other day, & I thought I had saved the notes, but apparently not!  I've tried a new movie from Amazon & also 1 that had been burned for us, & I can't get either 1 to play.  Thanks much.

Take care.
Mike, Go Dodgers!
Re: VLC Media Player

Debbie April Yuille
 

Hi Mike

 

You get VLC to play the DVD from the open with menu option in my computer/this PC once the DVD drive is selected. Now here is what I wrote to the list regarding getting DVD’s to play.

What you do is go to the menu bar and find playback. Activate that, then arrow down until you find the

title sub menu open that and click on the title that you want to play. Also, don’t forget to google “VLC Media Player for windows keyboard shortcuts”

 

HTH

Debbie

 

 

 

From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2016 10:16 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: VLC Media Player

 

Hi All,

 

Running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, VLC, & Jaws 16.  For the life of me I can't get a movie on DVD to play with VLc.  I've tried uninstalling VLC & reinstalling using the custom settings, & no go.  I've set VLC as the default player, & checked the defaults select all checkbox, but when choosing Play with VLc from the context menu I can't get the DVD to start.  Would y'all give me a swift kick as to how to get DVD's to play with VLC?  I know this topic was discussed the other day, & I thought I had saved the notes, but apparently not!  I've tried a new movie from Amazon & also 1 that had been burned for us, & I can't get either 1 to play.  Thanks much.

Take care.
Mike, Go Dodgers!
Re: Drop Box file sharing

Gudrun Brunot
 

Hi: I agree with Bill, there are two different things you can do when it comes to sharing files with someone. If the file is in your dropbox, and all you want to do is send that file to someone without attaching it to your email (which doesn't work if the file is large), you put the file in question in your Public folder under your Dropbox folder, highlight the file, hit the apps key and arrow down to "copy public," then scoot over to your email program and paste the link to the file right in the message to the receiving person.

The other way is what is causing trouble, the one where you and one or two or more people want to share a box. Here, you have to navigate through an interface that can be tricky. Brian Hartgen has put up a nice tutorial on how to create a folder to be shared, join a folder, leave a folder, etc. I don't have the link to it, but I copied the text from it and saved, and I'm pasting it in below. Like so many other good things he's got on his homepage
http://www.hartgen.org/
This one has helped me, and I hope it helps you too.

Dropbox Folder Management Using JAWS for Windows

Submitted by brianhartgen on Tue, 07/30/2013 - 12:48



Dropbox is an excellent tool for storing files. It can be used so you can share your personal files among different computers or mobile devices you own, together with sharing files with others, such as people with whom you wish to collaborate on a document.

However, the interface does present some accessibility challenges for screen-reader users. This article seeks to address them in conjunction with the screen-reader JAWS for Windows. You may be able to adopt similar strategies with alternative screen-readers.

Dropbox Notifications



While it is true that you can press the keystroke Insert+F11 in order to view the Dropbox notifications in the Windows System Tray, (such as whether files are uploading/downloading or if "all files are up-to-date", the J-Tools set of JAWS scripts from Astec at

www.astec-at.co.uk

make interacting with Dropbox easier. You can press a keystroke to instantly hear Dropbox file status information, another to drop right into your Dropbox folder and a third to view the Context Menu for it including working with your Preferences. The Preferences multi-page Dialog Box is also made more accessible.



Folder Management


By far the task most people have difficulty dealing with is either leaving a shared Dropbox folder or, (as an owner), removing someone from the folder.

This article will work through both scenarios. The process of creating an invitation to a user via Email to join a folder is accessible so I will not cover the steps unless anyone specifically requests them.



Leaving a Shared Folder


If you are not the owner of the folder, (in other words if you did not originally create it), you may care to leave a folder you previously had access to.

Here are the steps involved. They are all accessible.


1. Browse to the Dropbox website at
www.dropbox.com
and ensure you are signed in.

2. Using the list of Links feature, (Insert+F7), locate the name of the folder with which you no longer wish to be associated. Each folder name is hyperlinked. Press Enter on the desired folder name.

3. Each time you work through a step in this process, a new page is not rendered on the Dropbox website, so JAWS has difficulty in revealing the newly updated content to you. To rectify this, press Insert+Escape to refresh the JAWS Virtual Buffer.

4. Using the JAWS Find facility, (~Control+F), type the word, "Share", and press Enter. Hopefully, the cursor should be on the line entitled, "Shared Folder Options". If it is not, press F3 until JAWS announces these words.

5. When the cursor is on the appropriate line of text, press Enter. Do not be concerned that it is not a Link or a Button. In fact it is a Button but JAWS cannot detect this as a standard control.

6. Press Insert+Escape again to refresh the Virtual Buffer.

7. Press the letter B to reach the, "Leave Shared Folder" Button and press Enter on it.

8. Press Insert+Escape again to refresh the Virtual Buffer.

9. You may be prompted as to whether you wish to leave the folder. Locate the appropriate Button if so and press Enter.




Removing a Subscriber to a Dropbox Folder


This process is more troublesome but using JAWS it can be achieved.




1. Browse to the Dropbox website at
www.dropbox.com
and ensure you are signed in.

2. Using the list of Links feature, (Insert+F7), locate the name of the folder containing the member you wish to remove. Each folder name is hyperlinked. Press Enter on the desired folder name.

3. Each time you work through a step in this process, a new page is not rendered on the Dropbox website, so JAWS has difficulty in revealing the newly updated content to you. To rectify this, press Insert+Escape to refresh the JAWS Virtual Buffer.

4. Using the JAWS Find facility, (~Control+F), type the word, "Share", and press Enter.

5. Hopefully, the cursor should be on the line entitled, "Shared Folder Options". If it is not, press F3 until JAWS announces these words.

6. When the cursor is on the appropriate line of text, press Enter. Do not be concerned that it is not a Link or a Button. In fact it is a Button but JAWS cannot detect this as a standard control.

7. Press Insert+Escape again to refresh the Virtual Buffer.

8. Using the JAWS Find Facility, (Insert+F), type the first part of the person's name you wish to remove and press Enter. Hopefully the cursor should now be on the line of the person's name.

9. Now here is the tricky part. Using Insert+NumPad Minus, route the JAWS Cursor to the PC Cursor and begin exploring the text on screen with the Arrowkeys. This is not as easy as it sounds because, very often, the text within the Internet Explorer page is obscured and JAWS cannot detect it. In addition, the JAWS Cursor sometimes is not correctly routed to the Virtual Cursor, but in most cases, it is. If JAWS cannot latch onto the name of the user you wish to remove, try maximising the Internet Explorer window by pressing ALT+Space then X. In any event, you may need to use Up or Down Arrow in order to locate the name with the JAWS Cursor.

10. When the name is located, you should hear on that line of text the name of the user followed by the word, "Joined". There may also be additional
text on this line comprising Dropbox folder names, but provided you hear the name it should be fine.

11. At the end of the line containing the name is a graphic. This graphic cannot be detected by JAWS even if its Graphics setting is set to read "All". Press the End key on the keyboard and then press the Left Mouse Button, (NumPad Slash).

12. Press NumPad Plus to return to the Virtual Cursor.

13. Underneath the name of the user in the Virtual Cursor, you will now see a list of three items, each of which is hyperlinked. One item will be "Kick Out User". Press Enter on this Link.

14. Press Insert+Escape again to refresh the Virtual Buffer.

15. This page contains two new controls. One is a Check Box, where you can specify whether the user you are about to remove should keep a copy of the files. You probably do not wish them to. The second is a Button, "Kick Out", which is self-explanatory. Press Enter on this Button. The process should nowbe
complete.



Gudrun

-----Original Message-----
From: Gwensinfo [mailto:gwensinfo@tampabay.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:45 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Drop Box file sharing

Hi Bill, I am so confused. I don't use a public dropbox. I have all my own dropbox ID and password. I share files the way I was talking about with a friend of mine who has her own dropbox account and it is not tied to my dropbox account. Totally confused. Take care

Gwen and the great Orb
sent from my iPhone 5s
"a dog has many friends because he wags his tail and not his tongue "
Anonymous"

On Mar 22, 2016, at 12:22 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:



Hi, Gwen. The reason I believe that Marianne is having trouble following your instructions is that both of you are talking about two different things. You are trying to show her how to get and copy a public link for a file in her public DropBox folder into an email to send to another user.

On the otherhand, what Marianne wants to do, I believe, is to share one of her dropbox folders with a DropBox user with a different account. This may be what is causing the problem in communication.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: Gwensinfo <mailto:gwensinfo@tampabay.rr.com>
To: jfw@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: Drop Box file sharing


If you want to call me send me an email and I'll provide you my number, or I can call you and I will help you with this. You actually don't go to share, you go to copy drop box link

Gwen and the great Orb
sent from my iPhone 5s
"a dog has many friends because he wags his tail and not his tongue "
Anonymous"

On Mar 22, 2016, at 9:36 AM, Marianne Denning <marianne@denningweb.com> wrote:



I went into Drop Box on my computer, selected the file I wanted to share, used the application key and went to share. When I hit enter I went into edit boxes but JAWS did not tell me what went in each edit box. I assumed based on past experience what went into each edit box and sent the request. This morning the person had accepted my request to share the folder. Those were the steps you explained. Thanks!


On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Gwensinfo <gwensinfo@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:


I am sorry, but I'm a bit confused. Did you say what I told you about creating a link work? I'm not sure what you're talking about edit boxes. When I do the link from the actual dropbox as a directory, I don't going to any edit boxes. Can you please explain.

Gwen and the great Orb
sent from my iPhone 5s
"a dog has many friends because he wags his tail and not his tongue "
Anonymous"

On Mar 22, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Marianne Denning <marianne@denningweb.com> wrote:



It worked that way. JAWS does not tell me what goes in each edit box so I have to walk by faith. It did work. I think that is just a glitch in my computer.


On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Gwensinfo <gwensinfo@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:


I apologize if I said.drop box link on the desktop, I meant dropbox icon on the desktop that was in my previous message thanks

Gwen and the great Orb
sent from my iPhone 5s
"a dog has many friends because he wags his tail and not his tongue "
Anonymous"

On Mar 21, 2016, at 5:40 PM, Cindy Ray <cindyray@gmail.com> wrote:



So far I haven’t been able to do anything with it except log in for a while.

Cindy





From: Marianne Denning [mailto:marianne@denningweb.com]
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 2:16 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Drop Box file sharing



Every time I want to share a folder with someone in Drop Box it has changed and seems less accessible. Has anyone tried to share a folder recently? If so, could you give me some tips please.



--

Marianne Denning, TVI, MA

Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired

(513) 607-6053 <tel:%28513%29%20607-6053>












--

Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053 <tel:%28513%29%20607-6053>










--

Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053



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VLC Media Player

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi All,
 
Running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, VLC, & Jaws 16.  For the life of me I can't get a movie on DVD to play with VLc.  I've tried uninstalling VLC & reinstalling using the custom settings, & no go.  I've set VLC as the default player, & checked the defaults select all checkbox, but when choosing Play with VLc from the context menu I can't get the DVD to start.  Would y'all give me a swift kick as to how to get DVD's to play with VLC?  I know this topic was discussed the other day, & I thought I had saved the notes, but apparently not!  I've tried a new movie from Amazon & also 1 that had been burned for us, & I can't get either 1 to play.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike, Go Dodgers!
firefox

judith bron
 

I have Firefox installed on my computer.  Is it better with jaws for internet access than chrome?  Judith
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