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Re: Moodle with JAWS - nice combo?

Cindy Ray <cindyray@...>
 

I have done so, but it has been a while. It mostly worked pretty well.

Cindy

 

 

From: Holly Guinan [mailto:HGuinan@...]
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 4:42 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Moodle with JAWS - nice combo?

 

Hi List,
I'm new.  I called Freedom Scientific tech support to check,  before enrolling my 11th grade braille-using student in online chemistry,  if JAWS played nicely with the underlying platform upon which the online course is offered,  Moodle.  John at FS tech support had never heard of Moodle,  and couldn't offer any advice about JAWS ability to interact with it.  Has anyone here ever taken a Moodle-based online course using JAWS?   Thanks for any opinion.  -Holly,  a newbie

 

Holly Guinan,  TVI
Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired

New Cell:  604-704-5832
Re: New Member

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Jaz, welcome to the list. I use JAWS 17 and Windows 10, have a lot to
learn. We all work together.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jaz Smith [mailto:im2qt4u@viaccess.net]
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 3:32 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: New Member

Hello Everyone,



I am Jaz here in the Virgin Islands. I'm anticipating a great learning
experience.

I use JAWS17, and Windows10. I'm very new to Windows10. A JAWS user since
version 5.




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New Member

Jaz Smith
 

Hello Everyone,

 

I am Jaz here in the Virgin Islands. I’m anticipating a great learning experience.

I use JAWS17, and Windows10. I’m very new to Windows10. A JAWS user since version 5.

 


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Moodle with JAWS - nice combo?

Holly Guinan
 

Hi List,
I'm new.  I called Freedom Scientific tech support to check,  before enrolling my 11th grade braille-using student in online chemistry,  if JAWS played nicely with the underlying platform upon which the online course is offered,  Moodle.  John at FS tech support had never heard of Moodle,  and couldn't offer any advice about JAWS ability to interact with it.  Has anyone here ever taken a Moodle-based online course using JAWS?   Thanks for any opinion.  -Holly,  a newbie

Holly Guinan,  TVI
Teacher of the Blind and Visually Impaired
New Cell:  604-704-5832
Re: JAWS 14 with MS Office 2013 or 2016?

HAMILTON
 

From what I am hearing, MS Office 2013 is more accessible than MS Office 2016. It is also possible that users of 2016 will be forced into using the "cloud" for some things. Perhaps, another lister will have a better perspective on this aspect of 2016. For your reference, I am using MS Office 2013 with JAWS 17.0.1337 on a Windows 8.1 PC. Nothing's perfect; but, I am pretty happy with how things have been going lately, even with IE11. Jim H
Re: Smart Navigation keys for Jaws 17

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Shan,
 
No, it wasn't, & I forgot to mention that little tidbit!  Thanks for the reminder.
Take care.
Mike
The key to happiness is, having a crappy memory.

----- Original Message -----
From: Shan Noyes
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: Smart Navigation keys for Jaws 17

Thanks good catch but was smart web browsing even available in jaws 15 and 16 I always thought it was only available in just 17

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 29, 2016, at 2:09 PM, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Another Note:
The Jaws key + X, keystroke to Toggle between Smart Web Navigation and nomal Web Navigation modes, is only available in Jaws 17.
 
In Jaws 15 & 16 the, Jaws key + X, keystroke Says the text in the frame where the cursor is located.
Take care.
Mike
The key to happiness is, having a crappy memory.
----- Original Message -----
From: Shan Noyes
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: Smart Navigation keys for Jaws 17

Also note that you can turn smart navigation on and off when you're on the website with the Joskey plus the letter X

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 26, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Here are notes I've saved from people's experiences with Smart Navigation:
 
From: Daniel
Hello,
You can activate smart navigation in two ways. Through settings center where
you press space to cycle through the options - off, controls, and controls
and tables. The second way is through the jaws startup wizard, where these
options are radio buttons. Smart navigation
 Is used via the arrow keys. In controls, you can arrow across form fields
and you'll get the exact layout of the form. In tables, you navigate them
again with the arrow keys and you can pick a cell in a row, and arrow down
to the corresponding cell on subsequent lines.
Hope this helps,
Daniel

From: Neil Towery
I changed the subject line to reflect your question concerning how much we
 understand.
   Doesn't look like the current smart navigation. Did not notice that
 striking certain keys, such as H, would jump from heading  to heading.
   Looks like we have to do three keystrokes to get the same thing we now get
 with one keystroke.
   They are talking about doing the keystrokes twice quickly.
   Where is the option to have it like it is in windows 7?
 Neil
Hi.
If you don't use smart navigation, everything behaves as before. Say
word, Say Character are not quick navigation keys, but those two are the
ones affected by smart navigation, when smart navigation is in affect,
these keys require two quick presses to allow you to navigate the text
character by character or word by word. This is because the arrow keys
otherwise navigate by element, so one press of right arrow for instance
might go to a link, or perhaps a button, you won't be able to use arrow
keys to spell the name of the button for instance if you don't
understand what it says unless you do sayCharacter keystroke twice
quickly, thereafter the arrow keys will read the name of the button
character by character as you'd expect.

Remember, smart navigation is off by default anyway, and that only
really affects sayWord and sayCharacter keystrokes. They do recommend
however that you use semi auto forms mode or manual, because navigation
quick keys like h won't work very well if you have smart navigation on,
and fully auto forms mode, because if you arrow onto an edit box it will
enable forms mode, then if you try to use h it'll just type h in the box
instead of going to next heading, and you won't be able to get out of
the box with arrow keys I suspect (not verified) until you hit escape.

Navigation quick keys really are not affected in any way by smart
navigation, but the auto forms mode setting remains with the same 3
options as in jaws 16. If you leave smart navigation off jaws will
behave exactly as it did in version 16 when it comes to web pages in
every way to the best of my knowledge.

Also, yes, smart navigation will be new to JAWS 17.
Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates
Take care.
Mike
Global warming?  Most likely caused from hot air generated by politicians!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 8:14 AM
Subject: Smart Navigation keys for Jaws 17

Can any one help me with Smart Navigation Keys?

What I want is to have a clear definition of the difference between normal Navigation Keys and the Smart Navigation Keys.

Thanks

Jim
Re: Smart Navigation keys for Jaws 17

Shan Noyes
 

Thanks good catch but was smart web browsing even available in jaws 15 and 16 I always thought it was only available in just 17

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 29, 2016, at 2:09 PM, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Another Note:
The Jaws key + X, keystroke to Toggle between Smart Web Navigation and nomal Web Navigation modes, is only available in Jaws 17.
 
In Jaws 15 & 16 the, Jaws key + X, keystroke Says the text in the frame where the cursor is located.
Take care.
Mike
The key to happiness is, having a crappy memory.
----- Original Message -----
From: Shan Noyes
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: Smart Navigation keys for Jaws 17

Also note that you can turn smart navigation on and off when you're on the website with the Joskey plus the letter X

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 26, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Here are notes I've saved from people's experiences with Smart Navigation:
 
From: Daniel
Hello,
You can activate smart navigation in two ways. Through settings center where
you press space to cycle through the options - off, controls, and controls
and tables. The second way is through the jaws startup wizard, where these
options are radio buttons. Smart navigation
 Is used via the arrow keys. In controls, you can arrow across form fields
and you'll get the exact layout of the form. In tables, you navigate them
again with the arrow keys and you can pick a cell in a row, and arrow down
to the corresponding cell on subsequent lines.
Hope this helps,
Daniel

From: Neil Towery
I changed the subject line to reflect your question concerning how much we
 understand.
   Doesn't look like the current smart navigation. Did not notice that
 striking certain keys, such as H, would jump from heading  to heading.
   Looks like we have to do three keystrokes to get the same thing we now get
 with one keystroke.
   They are talking about doing the keystrokes twice quickly.
   Where is the option to have it like it is in windows 7?
 Neil
Hi.
If you don't use smart navigation, everything behaves as before. Say
word, Say Character are not quick navigation keys, but those two are the
ones affected by smart navigation, when smart navigation is in affect,
these keys require two quick presses to allow you to navigate the text
character by character or word by word. This is because the arrow keys
otherwise navigate by element, so one press of right arrow for instance
might go to a link, or perhaps a button, you won't be able to use arrow
keys to spell the name of the button for instance if you don't
understand what it says unless you do sayCharacter keystroke twice
quickly, thereafter the arrow keys will read the name of the button
character by character as you'd expect.

Remember, smart navigation is off by default anyway, and that only
really affects sayWord and sayCharacter keystrokes. They do recommend
however that you use semi auto forms mode or manual, because navigation
quick keys like h won't work very well if you have smart navigation on,
and fully auto forms mode, because if you arrow onto an edit box it will
enable forms mode, then if you try to use h it'll just type h in the box
instead of going to next heading, and you won't be able to get out of
the box with arrow keys I suspect (not verified) until you hit escape.

Navigation quick keys really are not affected in any way by smart
navigation, but the auto forms mode setting remains with the same 3
options as in jaws 16. If you leave smart navigation off jaws will
behave exactly as it did in version 16 when it comes to web pages in
every way to the best of my knowledge.

Also, yes, smart navigation will be new to JAWS 17.
Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates
Take care.
Mike
Global warming?  Most likely caused from hot air generated by politicians!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 8:14 AM
Subject: Smart Navigation keys for Jaws 17

Can any one help me with Smart Navigation Keys?

What I want is to have a clear definition of the difference between normal Navigation Keys and the Smart Navigation Keys.

Thanks

Jim
Re: turning off password screen on windows 10

Milton Ota <mota1252@...>
 

Your Windows PC, if you’re running Windows 8 or Windows 10, is tied to your Live account. xWhen you login to your system you have to enter the same password
that could open your Hotmail/outlook email account, log you into Skype, and even buy apps from the Windows App Store. Unfortunately, that’s also the only
thing preventing access to your PC. If you aren’t too bothered about securing your computer with a password, and are just plain annoyed with having to
login in repeatedly, there is a simple way to disable it so that you can just dive right in and start using your PC. Here’s how.

Right-click the Start button and select the Run option. Type netplwiz and hit enter.

win_10_run

This will open the User Accounts window. There are other ways to open this window; you can use the Control Panel as well. The Run dialogue is the quickest
way to open it. If you have several different accounts configured, choose the one that you would like to skip the whole login and password option for.
Uncheck the ‘Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer’ and click Apply at the bottom.

user accounts _ PW

Restart your system and you will see you no longer have to enter a password to start using it. Disabling the password has pros and cons of course, so be
mindful that you’re taking a layer of security off your system and trading it in for convenience by doing this.

Original message:

Hi, still waiting for my answer.
Thanks.
Robbie
millerrobbie@comcast.net <mailto:millerrobbie@comcast.net>
From: Kimsan [mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com]
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 1:22 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off password screen on windows 10
Now that yall have reconnected, what’s the answer to the question?
From: Robbie Miller [mailto:millerrobbie@comcast.net <mailto:millerrobbie@comcast.net>]
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:05 AM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: turning off password screen on windows 10
Yes! What’s up Mike??
From: mike mcglashon [mailto:michael.mcglashon@comcast.net <mailto:michael.mcglashon@comcast.net>]
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:48 AM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: turning off password screen on windows 10
hey, is this the same robbie miller who lives in chicago?
who went to program able and had a dba consulting service?
just wondering?
sincerely:
mike m.
From: Robbie Miller <mailto:millerrobbie@comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:47 AM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: turning off password screen on windows 10
Hello All,
I have a windows 10 laptop that requires I type in the password at the log on screen.
I would like to turn off the password requirement and let my laptop boot strait to the desktop.
Can anyone help me with this?
Thanks.
Robbie
millerrobbie@comcast.net <mailto:millerrobbie@comcast.net>
Here is the answer!

Your Windows PC, if you’re running Windows 8 or Windows 10, is tied to your Live account. When you login to your system you have to enter the same password
that could open your Hotmail/outlook email account, log you into Skype, and even buy apps from the Windows App Store. Unfortunately, that’s also the only
thing preventing access to your PC. If you aren’t too bothered about securing your computer with a password, and are just plain annoyed with having to
login in repeatedly, there is a simple way to disable it so that you can just dive right in and start using your PC. Here’s how.

Right-click the Start button and select the Run option. Type netplwiz and hit enter.

win_10_run

This will open the User Accounts window. There are other ways to open this window; you can use the Control Panel as well. The Run dialogue is the quickest
way to open it. If you have several different accounts configured, choose the one that you would like to skip the whole login and password option for.
Uncheck the ‘Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer’ and click Apply at the bottom.

user accounts _ PW

Restart your system and you will see you no longer have to enter a password to start using it. Disabling the password has pros and cons of course, so be
mindful that you’re taking a layer of security off your system and trading it in for convenience by doing this.
Re: Smart Navigation keys for Jaws 17

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Another Note:
The Jaws key + X, keystroke to Toggle between Smart Web Navigation and nomal Web Navigation modes, is only available in Jaws 17.
 
In Jaws 15 & 16 the, Jaws key + X, keystroke Says the text in the frame where the cursor is located.
Take care.
Mike
The key to happiness is, having a crappy memory.

----- Original Message -----
From: Shan Noyes
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: Smart Navigation keys for Jaws 17

Also note that you can turn smart navigation on and off when you're on the website with the Joskey plus the letter X

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 26, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Here are notes I've saved from people's experiences with Smart Navigation:
 
From: Daniel
Hello,
You can activate smart navigation in two ways. Through settings center where
you press space to cycle through the options - off, controls, and controls
and tables. The second way is through the jaws startup wizard, where these
options are radio buttons. Smart navigation
 Is used via the arrow keys. In controls, you can arrow across form fields
and you'll get the exact layout of the form. In tables, you navigate them
again with the arrow keys and you can pick a cell in a row, and arrow down
to the corresponding cell on subsequent lines.
Hope this helps,
Daniel

From: Neil Towery
I changed the subject line to reflect your question concerning how much we
 understand.
   Doesn't look like the current smart navigation. Did not notice that
 striking certain keys, such as H, would jump from heading  to heading.
   Looks like we have to do three keystrokes to get the same thing we now get
 with one keystroke.
   They are talking about doing the keystrokes twice quickly.
   Where is the option to have it like it is in windows 7?
 Neil
Hi.
If you don't use smart navigation, everything behaves as before. Say
word, Say Character are not quick navigation keys, but those two are the
ones affected by smart navigation, when smart navigation is in affect,
these keys require two quick presses to allow you to navigate the text
character by character or word by word. This is because the arrow keys
otherwise navigate by element, so one press of right arrow for instance
might go to a link, or perhaps a button, you won't be able to use arrow
keys to spell the name of the button for instance if you don't
understand what it says unless you do sayCharacter keystroke twice
quickly, thereafter the arrow keys will read the name of the button
character by character as you'd expect.

Remember, smart navigation is off by default anyway, and that only
really affects sayWord and sayCharacter keystrokes. They do recommend
however that you use semi auto forms mode or manual, because navigation
quick keys like h won't work very well if you have smart navigation on,
and fully auto forms mode, because if you arrow onto an edit box it will
enable forms mode, then if you try to use h it'll just type h in the box
instead of going to next heading, and you won't be able to get out of
the box with arrow keys I suspect (not verified) until you hit escape.

Navigation quick keys really are not affected in any way by smart
navigation, but the auto forms mode setting remains with the same 3
options as in jaws 16. If you leave smart navigation off jaws will
behave exactly as it did in version 16 when it comes to web pages in
every way to the best of my knowledge.

Also, yes, smart navigation will be new to JAWS 17.
Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates
Take care.
Mike
Global warming?  Most likely caused from hot air generated by politicians!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 8:14 AM
Subject: Smart Navigation keys for Jaws 17

Can any one help me with Smart Navigation Keys?

What I want is to have a clear definition of the difference between normal Navigation Keys and the Smart Navigation Keys.

Thanks

Jim
Re: turning off password screen on windows 10

Robbie Miller
 

Hi, still waiting for my answer.

 

Thanks.

 

Robbie

 

millerrobbie@...

 

From: Kimsan [mailto:kimsansong@...]
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 1:22 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off password screen on windows 10

 

Now that yall have reconnected, what’s the answer to the question?

 

From: Robbie Miller [mailto:millerrobbie@...]
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:05 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off password screen on windows 10

 

Yes! What’s up Mike??

 

 

From: mike mcglashon [mailto:michael.mcglashon@...]
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:48 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off password screen on windows 10

 

hey, is this the same robbie miller who lives in chicago?

 

who went to program able and had a dba consulting service?

 

just wondering?

 

sincerely:

 

mike m.

 

 

Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:47 AM

Subject: turning off password screen on windows 10

 

Hello All,

I have a windows 10 laptop that requires I type in the password at the log on screen.

I would like to turn off  the password requirement and let my laptop boot strait to the desktop.

 

Can anyone help me with this?

 

Thanks.

 

Robbie

 

millerrobbie@...

 

 
Re: JAWS 14 with MS Office 2013 or 2016?

David Ingram
 

I stand corrected I ment to say jaws 16 with Microsoft office 2013 professional.  That along with windows 7 pro works great for me.

 

From: David Ingram [mailto:dingram269@...]
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 4:51 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 14 with MS Office 2013 or 2016?

 

If you can still get Microsoft office 2013 please make sure that you get the professional version of the program.  It works fine for what I use it for and I’m finding more things that I can do that I didn’t think of before.  The only thing that I’m not sure about is creating business cards because I have a brother printer and I’m not sure where I would find what I would need in order to make the business cards.

 

From: James Homuth [mailto:james@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 9:44 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 14 with MS Office 2013 or 2016?

 

I've been hearing rumblings that 2016 isn't a whole lot worse than 2013, so I may just bite the bullet and make the switch.

From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:Ted.Lisle@...]
Sent: February-26-16 8:00 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 14 with MS Office 2013 or 2016?

2013 is a dandy—power and usability.

 

Ted

 

From: James Homuth [mailto:james@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 5:03 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS 14 with MS Office 2013 or 2016?

 

So it's becoming high time I give thought to retiring my old instalation of Office 2003. For reasons a-plenty, most of them outlined on this list, I'm holding off on JAWS 16 or 17 for the next little while. So my question would be this. How useable are later versions of Office, either 2013 or 2016, with JAWS? I fully expect just about everything to require a learning curve, but if half of that learning curve isn't telling JAWS not to do something dumb, then I may just go for it anyway. Thoughts and opinions are, of course, always welcome and even encouraged.
Re: turning off password screen on windows 10

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Now that yall have reconnected, what’s the answer to the question?

 

From: Robbie Miller [mailto:millerrobbie@...]
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:05 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off password screen on windows 10

 

Yes! What’s up Mike??

 

 

From: mike mcglashon [mailto:michael.mcglashon@...]
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:48 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off password screen on windows 10

 

hey, is this the same robbie miller who lives in chicago?

 

who went to program able and had a dba consulting service?

 

just wondering?

 

sincerely:

 

mike m.

 

 

Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:47 AM

Subject: turning off password screen on windows 10

 

Hello All,

I have a windows 10 laptop that requires I type in the password at the log on screen.

I would like to turn off  the password requirement and let my laptop boot strait to the desktop.

 

Can anyone help me with this?

 

Thanks.

 

Robbie

 

millerrobbie@...

 

 
Thunderbird: syncing junk folder

Mario
 

I would like to sync the junk folder of my Hotmail plus account with the junk folder feature in Thunderbird so I don't have to login to my hotmail plus every time I need to check for emails that were suspected as being junk. can anyone help me with this?
Re: Smart Navigation keys for Jaws 17

Shan Noyes
 

Also note that you can turn smart navigation on and off when you're on the website with the Joskey plus the letter X

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 26, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Here are notes I've saved from people's experiences with Smart Navigation:
 
From: Daniel
Hello,
You can activate smart navigation in two ways. Through settings center where
you press space to cycle through the options - off, controls, and controls
and tables. The second way is through the jaws startup wizard, where these
options are radio buttons. Smart navigation
 Is used via the arrow keys. In controls, you can arrow across form fields
and you'll get the exact layout of the form. In tables, you navigate them
again with the arrow keys and you can pick a cell in a row, and arrow down
to the corresponding cell on subsequent lines.
Hope this helps,
Daniel

From: Neil Towery
I changed the subject line to reflect your question concerning how much we
 understand.
   Doesn't look like the current smart navigation. Did not notice that
 striking certain keys, such as H, would jump from heading  to heading.
   Looks like we have to do three keystrokes to get the same thing we now get
 with one keystroke.
   They are talking about doing the keystrokes twice quickly.
   Where is the option to have it like it is in windows 7?
 Neil
Hi.
If you don't use smart navigation, everything behaves as before. Say
word, Say Character are not quick navigation keys, but those two are the
ones affected by smart navigation, when smart navigation is in affect,
these keys require two quick presses to allow you to navigate the text
character by character or word by word. This is because the arrow keys
otherwise navigate by element, so one press of right arrow for instance
might go to a link, or perhaps a button, you won't be able to use arrow
keys to spell the name of the button for instance if you don't
understand what it says unless you do sayCharacter keystroke twice
quickly, thereafter the arrow keys will read the name of the button
character by character as you'd expect.

Remember, smart navigation is off by default anyway, and that only
really affects sayWord and sayCharacter keystrokes. They do recommend
however that you use semi auto forms mode or manual, because navigation
quick keys like h won't work very well if you have smart navigation on,
and fully auto forms mode, because if you arrow onto an edit box it will
enable forms mode, then if you try to use h it'll just type h in the box
instead of going to next heading, and you won't be able to get out of
the box with arrow keys I suspect (not verified) until you hit escape.

Navigation quick keys really are not affected in any way by smart
navigation, but the auto forms mode setting remains with the same 3
options as in jaws 16. If you leave smart navigation off jaws will
behave exactly as it did in version 16 when it comes to web pages in
every way to the best of my knowledge.

Also, yes, smart navigation will be new to JAWS 17.
Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates
Take care.
Mike
Global warming?  Most likely caused from hot air generated by politicians!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 8:14 AM
Subject: Smart Navigation keys for Jaws 17

Can any one help me with Smart Navigation Keys?

What I want is to have a clear definition of the difference between normal Navigation Keys and the Smart Navigation Keys.

Thanks

Jim
Google docs again

Tasha Raella Chemel <tasha.chemel@...>
 

Hi all,

 

I have found that keeping the virtual pc cursor off consistently does help with reading Google docs, though the word “blank” proceeds the reading of the cell contents, and navigation is sluggish. The bigger problem is that turning the virtual pc cursor off in that one tab affects all my other tabs where I do want it on; i.e. toggling it back on with insert z twice quickly doesn’t appear to do anything.

 

Thanks,

Tasha

Re: turning off password screen on windows 10

Robbie Miller
 

Yes! What’s up Mike??

 

 

From: mike mcglashon [mailto:michael.mcglashon@...]
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:48 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: turning off password screen on windows 10

 

hey, is this the same robbie miller who lives in chicago?

 

who went to program able and had a dba consulting service?

 

just wondering?

 

sincerely:

 

mike m.

 

 

Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:47 AM

Subject: turning off password screen on windows 10

 

Hello All,

I have a windows 10 laptop that requires I type in the password at the log on screen.

I would like to turn off  the password requirement and let my laptop boot strait to the desktop.

 

Can anyone help me with this?

 

Thanks.

 

Robbie

 

millerrobbie@...

 

 
Re: turning off password screen on windows 10

mike mcglashon
 

hey, is this the same robbie miller who lives in chicago?
 
who went to program able and had a dba consulting service?
 
just wondering?
 
sincerely:
 
mike m.
 
 

Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:47 AM
Subject: turning off password screen on windows 10
 

Hello All,

I have a windows 10 laptop that requires I type in the password at the log on screen.

I would like to turn off  the password requirement and let my laptop boot strait to the desktop.

 

Can anyone help me with this?

 

Thanks.

 

Robbie

 

millerrobbie@...

 

 
turning off password screen on windows 10

Robbie Miller
 

Hello All,

I have a windows 10 laptop that requires I type in the password at the log on screen.

I would like to turn off  the password requirement and let my laptop boot strait to the desktop.

 

Can anyone help me with this?

 

Thanks.

 

Robbie

 

millerrobbie@...

 

 
Re: Smart Navigation keys for Jaws 17

Jim Welch <jim.welch04@...>
 

Thanks very much for all your assistance.  Most useful.

Jim

 

From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
Sent: 26 February 2016 21:36
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Smart Navigation keys for Jaws 17

 

Hi Jim,

 

Here you go:

 

Smart Navigation, More Efficient Interaction with Complex Web Pages and
Applications
Today and in the future, users will be faced with an increased need to work
with complex web forms, tables, and even applications that run inside of a
web browser. This will impact your day to day interactions with services
on-line such as banking and shopping, in addition to many web apps found in
both companies and government agencies. For instance, Internet Explorer can
be used to log onto a Microsoft SharePoint server to collaborate with other
co-workers and create and store documents. The new Smart Navigation feature
is designed to make it more efficient when navigating web-based applications
with the Virtual Cursor as the LEFT and RIGHT ARROW or CTRL+LEFT and
CTRL+RIGHT ARROW commands move by control instead of character and word.
This makes navigation such as moving across toolbars, tab strips, and
navigation links more like navigating around a desktop application. Pressing
the Say Character, Say Word, or Say Line commands twice quickly changes to
the traditional navigation by character, word, line, sentence, and paragraph
so you can review the text of the control. Smart Navigation resumes when you
press ESC, or move to a different control by pressing UP or DOWN ARROW or
TAB.

For example, if you use the LEFT and RIGHT ARROW keys to move across a tab
strip, you might hear JAWS announce something like; "Home tab selected,"
"Insert tab," and "Page Layout tab." If you wanted to review the items on
the tab strip character by character, press the Say Character (NUM PAD 5),
Say Word (INSERT+NUM PAD 5), or Say Line (INSERT+UP ARROW) commands twice
quickly. You can now navigate by character or word until you press DOWN
ARROW to move away from the tab strip to another control.

Smart Navigation is off by default. To turn it on, do the following:

Press INSERT+F2, select Settings Center, and press ENTER.
Press CTRL+SHIFT+D to open the default settings file if you want to use
Smart Navigation in all web browsers, or open the Internet Explorer or
Firefox settings file.
Type "smart navigation" without the quotes into the Search edit box.
Press DOWN ARROW to move to Smart Navigation in the filtered results of the
Settings Center tree view.
Press the SPACEBAR to choose the Smart Navigation option you want to use.
Press TAB to move to the OK button and activate it with the SPACEBAR. The
changes are made and saved. Settings Center closes.
Alternatively, Smart Navigation can be enabled for all web browsers through
the Startup Wizard, or through Quick Settings (INSERT+V). For instance, you
may want to use Smart Navigation in Firefox, but not in Internet Explorer.

Smart Navigation offers two modes, Controls, and Controls and Tables.

When set to Controls, most web-based controls, including, but not limited
to, buttons, links, edit fields, list boxes, tree views, and headings, are
treated as single units when navigating by character or word. Performing a
Say Character, Say Word, and Say Line command twice quickly while focused on
a control will switch to character and word Navigation so you can use the
traditional navigation by character, word, line, sentence, and paragraph to
review a control, such as the text of a button or link, in greater detail.
Smart Navigation by controls automatically resumes when you press ESC, or
move to another control using TAB or UP or DOWN ARROW. If you encounter a
table, you will still use the table reading commands (CTRL+ALT+ARROW keys)
or the Table layer (INSERT+SPACEBAR, t) to navigate the table.

When set to Controls and Tables, navigation is the same as the Controls
option when not in a table. However, if focused inside of a table, the RIGHT
and LEFT ARROW keys move between columns while the UP and DOWN ARROW keys
move between rows. When focused in a cell and it contains any controls, such
as a heading, or an edit field, pressing the Say Character, Say Word, or Say
Line commands twice quickly will switch to control navigation, and
performing these commands again twice quickly will switch to character and
word navigation. If the cell does not contain controls, you can only switch
to character and word navigation. Pressing ESC or moving focus away from the
control or table cell will switch back to the prior navigation level, for
example, pressing ESC while in character and word navigation will return to
Smart Navigation in tables.

When Smart navigation is active, press ALT+DELETE or INSERT+TAB to have JAWS
announce the current Smart Navigation level.

Anytime you are using Smart Navigation, either set to Controls or Controls
and Tables, JAWS will work in Screen Layout. This presents pages in the
virtual buffer similar to how they appear visually on the screen. Toolbar
buttons or other lists of controls that are visually laid out horizontally
on the screen are displayed on one line in the virtual document, allowing a
single press of the DOWN ARROW to skip the entire toolbar instead of having
to move from button to button to get past it.

For a great example, please try JAWS 17 on a web form such as the Web Track
sample form on the Surf's Up pages. On this page, you will be able to see
the power of navigating more efficiently with the DOWN ARROW then in
previous versions.

New Sound Indication for Links
As you navigate by line with Smart Navigation active, JAWS plays a sound if
the current line contains one or more links which would generally be
displayed on separate lines when you are not in Smart Navigation. This sound
helps you identify that a link exists and gives you a chance to pause to
hear about it or use TAB or the ARROW keys to move to it. To keep this sound
from being too intrusive, it is not heard if a line contains a link that is
preceded by less than five characters. For instance, a bulleted or numbered
list that contains a link directly after the number or bullet.

Take care.
Mike
Global warming?  Most likely caused from hot air generated by politicians!

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Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 8:14 AM

Subject: Smart Navigation keys for Jaws 17

 

Can any one help me with Smart Navigation Keys?

What I want is to have a clear definition of the difference between normal Navigation Keys and the Smart Navigation Keys.

Thanks

Jim
JAWS losing focus in say all mode

Rahul Bajaj
 

Hi All,

I am using Jaws 16 on a Windows 7 machine. The problem that I am
facing is that JAWS often stops speaking in the middle of a sentence
even when I press the keystroke to make it work in the say all mode.
Further, in Firefox, it repeatedly loses focus and I have to
constantly keep pressing alt-tab to bring it back into the window that
I am working in. Strangely, this problem doesn't appear in IE. The say
all problem, however, isn't limited to Firefox. Any thoughts?

Best,
Rahul
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